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A13235	A defence of the Appendix. Or A reply to certaine authorities alleaged in answere to a catalogue of Catholike professors, called, An appendix to the Antitdote VVherein also the booke fondly intituled, The Fisher catched in his owne net, is censured. And the sleights of D. Featly, and D. VVhite in shifting off the catalogue of their owne professors, which they vndertooke to shew, are plainly discouered. By L.D. To the Rt. VVorshipfull Syr Humphry Lynde.	L. D., fl. 1624.; Sweet, John, 1570-1632, attributed name.	1624 (1624)	STC 23528; ESTC S120948	43,888	74

of the Appendix shewing the continuall Visibility of the Catholike Church YOur owne Doctors in your owne house professed as you know The true Church must be able to name Professors in all Ages made it the very groūd of their Argument in that Dispute Wherefore in all reason before you went about to answere the Booke which you receaued of the Catalogue of our Professors you should haue giuen another or referred vs to some booke of an other of yours And that so much the more because hitherto such a Catalogue on your side hath byn held impossible to be found made or produced And hauing beene euermore demaunded and required for a hundred yeares togeather could neuer as yet be seene nor obtayned Certainly those your Champions which were chosen by your selfe and with great expectation vndertooke to doe it when they came to the Tryall performed nothing and all that they did was but cunningly to auoyde the Question giuen in these expresse termes Whether the Protestant Church was in all Ages visible especially in the Ages before Luther and whether the Names of such visible Protestants in all Ages can be shewed and proued out of good Authors Wherein euery man may see there was nothing els demaunded but a playne Catalogue or Table of the Names of your Professors in all Ages proued by good Authors According wherunto they receaued also another paper before the meeting which there was publickly read that ech partie should produce their Catalogues out of good Authors and then interchangably by termes defend them But this Table or Catalogue of the names of our Professors seemed a Lyon in the way of your Doctors which therefore they durst not come neere nor behold but sought by diuers straines to eschew it and to turne the eyes and eares of the audience from their expectation of it As first they sought to make two Questions of the Question propounded and flying the latter part insteed of shewing the visibility of their Church they would haue proued it à Priori as they tearmed it without shewing their visible Pastors which was the poynt demaunded Secondly they deride their Aduersaries for demaunding the Names of their Professors as if they had impertinently called for a Buttry Booke of the Names of those that euer were admitted into the Church of Christ irregiously comparing the Histories of the Church wherein the Names of her Bishops Martyrs and other holy Men were carefully recorded to Buttry Bookes of Names And for the same cause calling their Aduersaries Nominalls they boasted themselues to be Realls as if their Aduersaries had demaunded no Men but only Names of Men or as if the Professors of the true Faith like Knights Errants or those of the round Table had been no reall Men at all but only names which is asmuch to say as that the Hystories of the Church were meere fables Thirdly they sought to flinch by propounding sūdry tymes diuers other Questions to be disputed Which was as it were to put vp many Hares before the Hoūds thereby to conceale the Kennell of that Fox which was then hunted Fourthly they endeauoured to diuert the Question from prouing themselues the true Church by naming the visible Professors therof in all Ages which was the thing demaunded to proue the same by assuming they held the truth that is to say in euery particular Controuersie as for Example in denying of Transubstantiation Merits of Works and the like Which was as plaine a Transition as if in case the Question had byn about Transubstantiation their Aduersaries should haue gone about to proue it by prouing themselues to be the true Church that held it For both these kinde of proofes by a remote Medium do euidently transferre the Question the one from a generall to a particular point which was your Doctors fault the other from a particuler to a generall as in the other Example Fiftly being called vpon by the Hearers and especially by the Protestants themselues which were ten to one and confided much in their owne cause to giue the Names of their Professors in all Ages they named only Christ and his Apostles with others one or two more of the first Age alone Which according to the question vndertaken they should haue proued to be Protetestāts by naming Protestants that succeeded them in all Ages following but seeking euermore to auoyde that Rocke they would haue stayed there and before they went any further vrged to proue the Professors of the first Age to be Protestants not by naming their Successors but by examining their Doctrine Which againe had been to diuerte from the matter and to runne from the generall point then in Question to all particular Controuersies Sixtly Therefore when none of these deuises could satisfy the expectation of the Hearers fearing as it seemed least according to the words of the Question and playne intention of that meeting they should haue byn vrged againe by the Hearers to set downe a full Catalogue of all Ages as once before they were importuned to doe they suddenly brake off and so departed Seauenthly My L. of Warwicke imagining perchāce that this proceeded not so much from lacke of ability as from want of due preparation on their behalfe promised a Catalogue within 2. or 3. dayes which though sought agayne by letter neuer yet appeared Eightly The Answerers themselues repayred the next day to your owne house agayne offering to deliuer their Catalogue with one hand so they might receaue yours with the other Which another stāding by whome they also tooke to be a Protestant Minister affirmed to be very reasonable and indifferent But you answered You knew their minde for that point and that they would neuer doe it before the Names of the first Age were tryed and so of the rest in order Ninthly a printed Catalogue was sent to your selfe in particuler hoping it might serue as an engine to importune and as it were to extort another from you or from your Doctours But all in vayne which maketh many much to feare that this Catalogue of your Professors will neuer be produced and consequently that your Church cannot possible be the true Church of Christ And now no maruell if some of the Hearers when they saw the Booke of The Fisher catched in his owne Net writen as it were in triumph of your victory in that Dispute compared it to those other Puritan Bookes which haue been lately printed of the great victories of the Protestants in their Warres against the Catholiks beyond the Seas whereas in truth not the Catholikes but the Protestants themselues haue beene alwayes notoriously vanquished and ouerthrowne And presuming it came forth from his owne fingers that hath the principall part therin they spare not to say that it better deserued to be called The feates and lyes of Doctor Feat-Lye then the other Title which in falshood well agreeing with the Booke it selfe in that respect alone might iustly seeme a fit lace or facing for it For besides the sundry shifts

A Defence of the Appendix OR A REPLY TO CERTAINE AVTHORITIES alleaged in Answere to a Catalogue of Catholike Professors called An Appendix to the Antidote VVHEREIN Also the Booke fondly intituled The Fisher catched in his owne Net is censured And the sleights of D. Featly and D. VVhite in shifting off the Catalogue of their owne Professors which they vndertooke to shew are plainly discouered By L. D. To the R t. VVorshipfull Syr Humphry Lynde Eccles 7. v. 30. Solummodo hoc inueni quod fecerit Deus hominem rectum Et ipse se infinitis miscuerit quaestionibus Permissu Superiorum M.DC.XXIIII TO THE RIGHT VVORSHIPFVLL Syr Humphry Lynde SYR It may be you will take it vnkindly to see vnawares your selfe and your papers thus in print But I was moued to doe it by due cōsideration of that which followeth I receaued them not as secret neyther do I thinke you gaue them to be concealed You wrote against a printed Catalogue of Catholike Professors wherof a deare friend of mine is the Author giuen you vpon a former Conference which your self procured betweene some other of my Friends and your Doctors concerning a Protestant Catalogue which Conference though priuatly intēded was afterwards victoriously printed Wherefore writing them as you did against such a Booke and vpon such an occasion you might easily thinke they would be answered and it is not strāge they should come to be printed As the great opinion which others had of your deepe learning and your owne profession of your great skill and reading in the Fathers made me diligently to peruse those authorityes alleadged by you so hauing well examined them I thought my selfe diuers wayes obliged to giue a large full Reply vnto them And being as you are most extremely and most vehemētly distant in opinion from me no maruell if to be better vnderstood I speak so lowd that all the Land may heare me And for the same cause you must pardon me if I rather choose to expose both you my selfe to the iudgment of others then hauing takē some little paynes in this matter to make you the only iudge of my labours The old Maister Buggs being carried away with Ecce in Penetralibus thinketh to haue found the Messias in your study and was wholy transported with those chosen places and selected authorities contayned in your papers which tending to no lesse then the losse of his soule merited great compassion the like may happen to others which deserueth preuention Your owne Doctors haue already adorned the Pageant of their victory with the publication of your Names Vnto you is giuen the driuing on of the Chariot and the old Maister Buggs is led in Triumph Some perchance haue been taken in the net of the Title and may be freed againe by the net of Christ which therefore should not hange in the Riuers of priuate papers when the other flyeth in the ayre but should be cast into the Sea of the wide World to gather and draw togeather all kind of fishes In this net the Fishers themselues are happily taken and all they that are not taken are lost for euer The other of the Heretikes is but a net to catch flyes which though cūningly wrought must in tyme be swept away togeather with the Spiders They haue printed against vs and renewed an old Decree against our printing if no Reply should be made some of them would thinke that now they might lye by Proclamation What greater signe of falshood thē hauing told your owne tale to seeke to stop the mouthes of your Aduersaries with old Statutes But the State neuer intended to make a Law against God his Word will not be tyed All Princes should serue it and all printing Presses must be subiect vnto it Therfore no maruell if the taking of one Presse do set two more on worke and that your Doctors by seeking to suppresse the Truth do presse it forward You know then what moued me to diuulge your papers giuing the Fathers their due I haue told you your owne but sparingly and if you knew my hart you would see and confesse that I had done it friendly Belieue and you shall vnderstande Belieue the Fathers and you shall vnderstand the Fathers He that heareth not the visible vniuersall Church is no better then a Heathen and belieueth neyther Church nor Fathers but the vnlearned not knowing the doctrine of the Church and the vnstable forsaking that which they haue knowne as they peruerte the Scriptures so also they preuert the Fathers to their owne damnation from the which I beseech God deliuer you praying you likewise to thinke no otherwise of me then as of Your vnfaygned Friend and seruant in Christ L. D. THE AVTHORITIES ALLEADGED BY Syr Humphry Lynde agaynst the Appendix Of Myracles EPIPHANIVS conuinceth not Ebion of false beliefe because neyther he nor any of his faction had the gift of working Miracles but because Ebion lykened himselfe to Christ for his Circumcision and for his Birth and he answers him he could not be lyke to God for that he was but a mortall Man and was not able to rayse Lazarus out of the graue nor heale the sicke c. If he would be lykened to Christ he bid him to doe those things the which things if he had required at Epiphanius hands I thinke noe man but would haue doubted of the performance of them Read the place at large and you shall find it hath no such meaning as is heere alleadged Myracles were necessary before the world belieued to induce it to belieue and he that seeketh to be confirmed by wōders now is to be wondred at most of all himself in refusing to belieue what all the world belieueth besides himselfe De Ciuit. Dei lib. 22. cap. 8. in principio Shewed to be falsified Now we for our parts say not that we must be belieued that we are in the Church of Christ because Optatus or Ambrose hath commended this wherein we are or els because that in all places of the world where our Communiō is frequēted there are so many Myracles wrought of healing diseases c. For all these things that are done in the Catholike Church are approued in asmuch as they are done in the Catholike And not that it is therfore Catholike because such things are done there August de vnitat Eccles cap. 16. Tertullian They will say sayth he to excuse themselues for hauing followed Heresy that their Doctours haue confirmed the Fayth of their Doctrine that they haue raysed vp the dead restored the sicke foretould things to come so as they were worthily taken for Apostles As if sayth he this were not written that many should come working great Myracles to fortify the deceitfullnes of their corrupt preaching De Praescrip cap. 44. S. Hierome The Galathians had the gift of Healing and of Prophesy and yet they were insnared by the false Prophets and it is to be obserued that powers and signes are seene to be wrought in those that

the Prince of Arabia pag. 20. In the fourth Age the Bessites Dacians Getes and Scythians pag. 26. In the fifth Age the Sarazens the Scots the Irish pag. 32. In the sixt Age the Pictes the Gothes the Bauarians the English pag. 36. 38. In the seauenth Age diuers Sweuians the Westphalians and many of our Nation People of Teisterbandia of Westphalia of Holland the King and Queene of Persia with forty thousand Percians pag. 42 44. In the eight Age Saxons Borucluatians the Frisians the Hassits the Thuringians the Catti the Erphordians two Saxon Dukes pag. 48. In the ninth Age the Danes Swethens and people of Aquitania the whole Iland of the Rugians the Bulgarians the Ruthens or Russians pag. 52. 54. In the tenth Age Worziuous the last Pagan Duke in Bohemia the King of Norway the Polonians the Sclauonians and Hungarians Heraldus King of the Danes and Sueno his Sonne pag. 60. In the eleuenth Age the Prussians the Vindians also Pannonians and Transiluanians the lapsed Hūgarians pag. 64. 68. In the twelfe Age the Pomeranians the people of Norway Magnus King of the Gothes pag. 70. 72. In the thirteenth Age the Liuonians the Lituanians innumerable Tartarians pag. 76. 78. In the fourtenth Age the Canary Ilandes the Chumans the Lipnensians Bosnians Patrinians and other Sclauonian Nations pag. 84. In the fifteenth Age Samogessians the Kingdomes of Bentomine Guinaea Angola and Congo Zerra Iacob Emperour of the Abissyns pag. 90. In the sixteenth Age the Kingdome of Manicongo in Africa the Kings of Amanguntium and Bungo innumerable Indians Iaponians Brasilians and other Westerne and Orientall people more Countries and Kingdomes then all Christendome before In the seauēteenth Age the King of Sarra Leaena in the East Indies with his Brethren and Children besides many other in China Iaponia Persia and other Nations This Argument taken from the great increase of fruit which continueth and abideth among them Ioan. 15. 16. and from the wonderfull propagation of their Religion not only in the first fiue hundred yeares after Christ but also much more in the Ages following to this present tyme is surely a most forcible and strong perswasion that they alone among all other sortes of Christians are the company and people whome God had blessed Haue Idolaters been chosen and preserued by Almighty God before his owne Seruants to perswade in the force of his word innumerable people from tyme to tyme to renoūce and tread vnder their feete the Auncient Gods of their Forefathers in whome they so much confided and to receaue him for their true and only God who whipped and crowned with thornes was nayled to a Crosse in the sight of the world and so dyed Haue all these seuerall Countries and Kingdomes so extremely different in clymats in tongues in affections in customes and in natures beene voluntarily reduced to the vnity of one and and the same Fayth in Christ and to the obedience of one Pastor vnder Christ by the followers of Antichrist Haue the limmes of the Diuell reformed the sauage brutish and wicked manners of so many People and Nations changing their hartes and bringing them vpō their knees to serue their Creator with piety and humility and in exercise of all kind of vertue Then I must needes confesse it seemeth vnto me that eyther God himselfe must be in loue with Idolatry or Christ himselfe must become Antichrist or the Diuell himselfe hauing forsaken his malice is now changed to be a seruant of Christ Neyther do I see how possibly you can deny these innumerable Nations to haue beene conuerted by the true Church recommended vnto vs in holy Scripture vnlesse we deny both Church and Scripture For by these Conuersions of Nations in all Ages your Aduersaries doe manifestly proue themselues to be that Church which must in the end conuert all Nations and was therefore surnamed Catholike or Vniuersall And thereby it cannot be denyed they make it most apparent the promises thereof in the Law Gen. 22.17 Gal. 3. In the Psalmes 2. 71.6 21. 28. In the Prophets Isa 2.2 11. 60. 61. 62. Hier. 33. Ezech. 33.22 Dan. 2.44 c. In the old and new Testament Matth. 24.14 28.19 Luc. 24.47 being so euidently performed by thē that they alone are the spirituall seede of Abraham Rom. 4.13 Gal. 3. The inheritance of the Sonne of God Psalm 2. 47. The Mountaine on the toppe of Mountaines Isa 60.12 The Mountaine filling the world Dan. 2.44 The glorious Citty Psal 86. whose gates must be alwayes open that the strength of the Gentiles their Kings may be brought vnto it and the Nation and Kingdome that will not serue it must perish Isa 60.11.12 That blessed Company Isa 61.9 whome our Sauiour promised to assist all dayes or euery day teaching and baptizing all Nations vnto the end of the world Matth. 28. 24. Heere againe as in the end the former Section if they should argue Syllogistically against your Doctors in this manner though you had the strength of Hercules I think you would hardly be able to defend them That Church which conuerted Nations in all Ages is the true Church of Christ and his Apostles recommended vnto vs in holy Scripture But the Catholike and not the Protestant Church hath conuerted Nations in all Ages Ergo the Catholike and not the Protestant Church is the true Church of Christ and his Apostles recommended vnto vs in holy Scripture Section III. In reference to a third point of the Appendix shewing their Religion to haue byn confirmed by Myracles in all Ages HAd you giuen vs a view of so many Nations reduced to the Faith of Christ by your Professors as he hath named conuerted by theirs that your Church might not appeare altogeather inferior to theirs you should haue shewed some points of your Religion confirmed by Myracles against them as that Booke hath declared many points of theirs in all Ages miraculously authorized and as it were subscribed by the hand of God against you those so euidētly testified not only by Auncient Histories but also by the holy Fathers themselues not liable to any exception in the first fiue hundred yeares downewards as they seeme to enforce all good Christians to belieue them As for Example in the second Age Narcissus Bishop of Hierusalem turned water into Oyle for the vse of the Church Eusebius lib. 6. Cap. 8. 9. S. Balbina and her Father restored to health by touching the Chaynes wherwith with Pope Alexander was bound Baron An. 132. n. 2. Cures wrought by the Bodies and Sepulchers of Martyrs Iustin. quast 28. In the third Age the Myracles of S. Gregorie the wonder-worker some of thē wrought by the signe of the Crosse Nissen in vita Greg. Thau And S. Basil de Sp. Sanct. cap. 29. Also Myracles confirming the Eucharist Reall Presence Cyp. ser de Lapsis Also S. Cecily shewed to Valerian the Angell Guardian of her virginitie Metaphrastes and Surius in her life In

occasion to admire the little conscience of your late English Doctors in challenging the Fathers of the first fiue hundred yeares wherein if their Aduersaries might come to an indifferent and equall tryall with them the very Titles of the Fathers Books against them were sufficient to ouerthrow them Only in this place I will giue the Reader this short Notandum for the which if he desire sincerely to know and belieue the Doctrine of the Fathers he shall haue cause to thanke me When any of the holy Fathers do censure any poynt of Doctrine taxing it of Heresy or noteth it as the particuler opinion of some Heretike or reproueth it very much or wondreth at it especially if it be such a thing as euery learned Man may easily know or was necessary to be taught and that no other Father did therein oppose himself against him It is an euident Testimony that his Doctrine therein was the generall Doctrine of the Church at that tyme and ought to be so receaued of the Ages that follow Wherefore the Author of that Booke hauing shewed so many poynts of your Doctrine to haue beene so notoriously cēsured and condemned by the Auncient Fathers of the first fiue hundred yeares in the Hetetikes of those tymes besides many other poynts and some of those also condemned by Fathers and Councells in after Ages whereunto you haue not answered a word it is for ought I can see or perceaue a cleare demonstration that the Fathers of those tymes were theirs and that eyther your Professors were none at all or no other then those that were condemned by them Thus all things with them are infallibly certaine easie to be knowne and most conspicuous They follow the streame and current of that Doctrine which by many knowne Successions of holy and learned Men Martyres and Bishops as it were by so many Channells they deriue from Christ and his Apostles They follow the fame and greatnes of that Church which by conuerting Countries and Nations in all Ages is become eminent and apparent aboue all other sortes of Christians like a Citty vpon a Hill aboue the Moale-hills or like the Little Stone in Daniel which growing to be a Mountaine filleth the world with it's greatnes They follow the security of those Letters-Patents which the hand of God hath signed with his owne Seale and cōmended to the world by Attestation of many Myracles in confirmation of their Doctrine And lastly they follow the infallible and powerfull Authority of that Body which by Cēsures of Doctors Decrees of Coūcells from tyme to tyme hath euer confounded all those that opposed themselues against it While you in the meane tyme without any lineall Descente from those whome you pretend to haue beene your Auncestors without the Progenie of any Gentills conuerted by you without any warrant of Gods hand or sentence of his Iudges for you do still remayne in the darcknes of your inuisible Church tossed in the Sea of Error with euery winde of new Doctrine not knowing certainly whome to follow nor what to belieue vntill at the last euen the wisest of you being wearie of seeking and desperate of finding that which they seeke come to hold all opinions probable which is in effect to belieue nothing Good Syr had you produced such a Successiō such cōuersions of Nations such Myracles and Censures in the defence of your Church as that Booke hath shewed in confirmation of theirs all zealous Protestants had been bound to haue fallen at your feete and to haue honoured you for euer But now on the other side against such weighty and massie matters such cleare and conuincing proofes as these not being able to giue in euidence so much as one Professor in euery Age nor in any Age the conuersion of any Nation or the testimony of any Myracle or the Censure of any one Father in fauour of your Religion who seeth not that insteed of reason there is nothing but passion on your part and certainly for the honour of your cause it were better to hold your peace then reply so weakely in a matter of such importance For besides all that hath beene sayd against many other most expresse Sentences of the Auncient Fathers in those very poynts which you haue chosen to touch you haue only produced a few dribling Authorities as it were on the Bye some falsely translated and some falsely cited and some in respect of other expresse words agaynst you plainely falsified that not to accuse you of a bad Conscience though you make profession to be much versed in the Fathers yet the Reader must needes think you neuer saw or read so much as those few places which your selfe haue cited but only tooke them by retaile frō others And howsoeuer though they were admitted and taken as you giue them vp yet in my poore opinion they eyther touch not your Aduersaries at all or being a little considered make rather with them then against them Which sheweth great want of iudgment in you and I verily thinke if you will be pleased to examine them with me I shall make you see it Wherefore as in the former Section soe that you may know in this also how far you are chargable I giue you the summe of your accompt in this manner The Doctrine of that Church which was condemned by the Fathers of the first fiue hundred yeares was condemned by Christ and his Apostles But the Doctrine of the Protestant Church was condemned by the Fathers of the first 500. yeares as the most and best learned Protestants themselues haue also confessed Ergo the Doctrine of the Protestant Church was likewise condemned by Christ and his Apostles Section V. Myracles defended to be a sufficient Testimony of Truth and the Doctrine of the Fathers therein declared WHerefore to begin as you doe with Myracles most certaine it is that no true Myracle can be wrought but only by him Qui facit mirabilia magna solus and therefore whēsoeuer any true Myracle is shewed or sufficiently testified vnto vs in confirmation of any point of Doctrine it is an euident proofe of the truth thereof For a Myracle in that case is the Testimony of God who speaketh by workes as men by wordes sayth S. Aug. Epist 49. quaest 6. and is the subscription as it were of his hand and seale vnto it And certainly if Myracles were no sufficiēt proofes of true Doctrine they would neuer haue beene called Signes and Testimonyes in holy Scripture God would not haue giuen Moyses power of working Myracles Exod. 4. That the People of Israel might belieue he had appeared vnto him Our Sauiour would not haue sayd the Iewes had not sinned in not receauing him if he had not done those workes which no man els had done before him Ioan. 15. And in vayne should he haue promised that Signes should follow those that belieued and haue cooperated and confirmed the Doctrine of the Apostles by them Neyther could he in Iustice haue commaunded the world

indeed were horible and would profit nothing but we eate the flesh of Christ as it is liuing flesh vegetated with his Spirit which is Christ himselfe entirely as he is now in Heauen Tract 27. in Ioan. 63 That no man eateth that Flesh before he adore it in Psalm 93. That the rich men of this World cōming to the Table of Christ do receaue his Body and Bloud which though they adore yet are not filled with it because they doe not imitate it eating him that is poore but contemning pouerty Epist. 120. ad Honoratum That the Apostles did eate the Bread which was their Lord Panem Dominum though Iudas did eate but the Bread of our Lord Panem Domini Tract 59. in Ioan. For our Sauiour was not truly his Lord because Iudas was not truly his seruant And if at the day of Iudgement he should say Domine Domine our Lord would answere I know thee not Protestants may well say with Iudas that they eate the Bread of our Lord if our Lord did ordaine it to be a figure of his Body but they cannot say with the Apostles that they eate the Bread which is their Lord because they deny it to be their Lords Body That Iudas Iscariot receaued That sayth he which the faythfull know the price of our Redemption Epist. 162. ad Glor. That our Sauiour did literally beare himselfe in his owne hands whē he gaue it Conc. 1. in Psalm 33. That Bishops and Presbiters in the Church of Christ are properly Priests de Ciuit Dei lib. 20. cap. 10. Which doth infer that properly also there are Priests and Sacrifices that Christian Priests doe properly offer Sacrifice vpon Altars Wherefore making often mention of MASSE Serm. 91. de Tempore Serm. 251. he sayth likewise that our Sauiour changed the Sacrifice according to the order of Aaron and did institute a Sacrifice of his owne Body and Bloud according to the order of Melchisedech in Psalm 32. in Psalm 39. lib. 17. de Ciuit Dei cap. 20. That he prayed God to giue him contrition a foūtaine of teares when he assisted at the holy Altar to offer that marueilous heauenly Sacrifice which Christ the immaculate Priest did institute and commaund to be offered in Manuali That a Priest of his offered the Sacrifice of the Body of Christ in a house infested with wicked spirits which was thereby freed lib. 22. de Ciu. Dei cap. 8. That he desired all Priests whome he called his Bretheren and his Maisters who should read his Booke of Confessions to remember his Mother at the Altar where the also desired to be remembred after her death lib 9. Confess cap. 13. That it is not to be doubted the dead are holpen thereby because the vniuersall Church receauing it from the Fathers obserued that it should be offered for those who departed this life in the communion of Christs Body Serm. 32. de verbis Apostoli He reckoneth it amongst the Heresies of Aerius that he denyed Oblations and Prayers for the Dead Haer. 53. Could any Catholike at this day or Bellarmine himselfe if he were now aliue more fully declare his owne Doctrine in this point of the Reall Presence and of the Sacrifice of the Masse then doth S. Augustine against you though in other things you may retaine some difficulties yet in this me thinkes you should freely acknowledge that you are wholy conuinced Finally vpon Leuiticus quaest 57. in the very place which your selfe haue cited where there is nothing that may found for you but only that the figure is sometymes sayd to be the thing figured which as I take it is only in those cases where it is knowne and presupposed to be a figure he demaundeth why the people should be so much forbidden from the Bloud of the Sacrifice of the old Law when as none were forbidden to take for their nourishment the Bloud of this one Sacrifice which was signified by all the former but all that desired life were rather exhorted to drinke it Now therefore heereupon might not your Aduersaries deeply charge you that you had egregiously abused S. Augustine and plainely peruerted his meaning Section X. S. Ambrose falsly alleaged by Syr Humphry against the Reall Presence LEt vs now come to S. Ambrose who conuerted S. Augustine that we may see how the Maister the Scholler agree togeather he maketh mentiō of the MASSE and that himselfe sayd MASSE Epist ad Sororem Marcellinam He repeateth a great part of the Canon of the MASSE which is now vsed We offer vnto thee this immaculate Host this reasonable Host this vnbloody Host this holy Bread and Cup of life euerlasting c. And we pray thee to receaue this Oblation as thou didst vouchsafe to receaue the gifts of thy seruant Abel the iust and the Sacrifice of our great Father Abraham and that which the high Priest Melchisedech did offer vnto thee lib. 4. de Sacramentis cap. 6. He sayth We daily adore the Flesh of Christ in the Mysteries that is to say in the MASSE or Sacrifice lib. 3. de Spirit Sanct. cap. 12. He maketh his prayer vnto that Bread to heale his infirmity to come into his hart to clense both his flesh and his spirit from all that defileth in his prayer preparatory before Masse And in his Booke De Mysterijs init cap. 9. he obiecteth in this manner Perchance thou wilt say I see another thing how dost thou affirme vnto me that I receaue the Body of Christ Whereunto he answereth How many Examples haue we to proue it not to be that which Nature hath formed but that which Benediction hath consecrated And that Benediction is of greater power then Nature because by it euen Nature it selfe is changed And then declaring many Myracles wrought by Moyses Helias and Helizaeus he concludeth If human benediction were able to change Nature what shall we say of Diuine Consecration If the speach of Helias was able to bring Fyre from the Heauens Shall not the speach of Christ be able to change the formes of the Elements If the word of Christ were able to make of nothing that which was not can it not change the things that are into that which they were not For it is no lesse matter to giue new Natures vnto things then to change their Natures And a little after he sayth It is manifest that a Virgin brought forth agaynst the ordinary course of Nature and the Body which we Priests DOE MAKE is of the Virgin What dost thou require the order of Nature to be obserued in the Body of Christ who was borne of a Virgin against the order of Nature Could the Doctrine of Transubstantiation or change of Nature in the Sacrament be more auouched or better proued by any moderne Papist Who likewise lib. 6. de Sacram. cap. 1. thinketh it no blasphemy to say as he doth That as our Lord Iesus Christ is the true Sōne of God not as man by grace or by Fayth but