Master Bellamy That Court which hath a power to make Lawes and rules for all the Courts and people in the Kingdome to be steered and acted by and whereunto the King is bound bâ— oath to consent must needs have the supreame power of the Kingdome residing in it But the House of Commons in Parliament assembled which say you as the Kingdome Representative even as the Common-councell is the City Representative upon your supposition hath such a power c. Therefore the House of Commons hath it seemes even by your owne arguing the Supreame power of the Kingdome lesiding in it One touch moâ—e Mr Bellamy from your Plea for the Comonalty of Lâ—nâ—on 〈…〉 Mr. Bâ—llamy you grant this arguing from your for 〈…〉 of the Kingdome and City Representative to 〈…〉 or â—râ—â—se I may reason upon you and that thus Sir He thâ—â— shâ—ll aâ—â—â— be that power unto the City Representatiâ—e in refâ—ence to the government of the City which he shall deny unto the Kingdome Representative in râ—ference to the Government of thâ— Kingdom doth quoad hoc preferre the City Representative in its power before the Kingdome representative in its power But Mr. Bellamy ascribes that power unto the City Representative in reference unto the government of the City which he denyes unto the Kingdome Representative in reference unto the government of the Kingdome Thereforâ—â— Bâ—llamy doth quoad hoc preferre the City Representative above the Kingdome Representative The Major proposition I think will not bee denyed for the proofe or the minor I must doe two things First shew what power Mr. Bellamy ascâ—ibes unto the City Representative in reference to the government of the City Secondly shew what he denies the Kingdome Representative iâ— reference to the government of the Kingdome Forth first Mr. Bellamy ascribes so much power unto the City Representative in reference unto the government of the City that the Lord Majâ—r and Aldermen must have no negative vote as Lord Major and Aldermen out must be considered as so many distinct persons together with the Commons concluding by the major vote of the whole Conjunctim and as unto such conclusions regarding the Lord Major and Aldermen but as so many distinct persons aâ— is the whole drift of the 15. and 16. pages of the said Plea for the Comonalty of Londâ—â— Secondly let us consider what he deniâ—â— the Kingdome Representative in reference unto the government of England and that is in termâ—â—is that the Suprâ—am◠〈◊〉 of this Kingdome doth not râ—side there neither wiâ—â— he 〈◊〉 the King Lords Commons in Parliament to be conâ—â—â—erâ—â— peâ—sonaliter and as so many distinct persons but 〈…〉 so then this 〈…〉 case The City is governâ—â—joy Common-councell consisting of Lord Major 〈…〉 Commons of the City but not three distinct Estaâ—e but as 〈…〉 men amounting to such a number the may 〈◊〉 concluding but the Kingdoâ— is governâ—â— by a Parliament 〈◊〉 sâ—tting of King Lords Commons not consider 〈…〉 persâ—ns who have their equall vot◠〈…〉 Mr. Bellamy and so the two Estates being the major part of Estate must conclude the third Now I appeale to all whether according to Mr. Bellamyes Logick the Kingdom representative which he himself saith is the House of Commons be not quâ—ad hoc 〈…〉 in its power in 〈◊〉 government of the Kingdome then the City 〈◊〉 in â—â—ference for the government of the City Well Mr. Bellamy 〈◊〉 the case be so I only quere for my further satisfaction and untiâ—â— you have answered these queâ—es do not insult over 〈…〉 nor charge him with destroying the power of two â—statâ—s oâ— the Kingdome when he did 〈◊〉 dâ—sire you â—o 〈◊〉 him the tâ—uth as concerning the residence of the suprâ—ame power of the Kingdome until I heare your answers I shall never in 〈◊〉 of your 〈…〉 to vnâ—ouâ—d Riddles and by 〈…〉 your selfe thâ— questions will be no 〈◊〉 unto you neither are they intended so to 〈◊〉 Take heed you doe not make a Nâ—t of your answers Here you slide â—rom the Replyer and deale with others as Lieu. Col. John Lilburn and anon after with Mr. 〈◊〉 Burroughs and the truth is I wonder how you can write so irreverently of him as you doe you call him one of the most moderate opposers of Presbyteriall Government and as if your bitternesse and unworthinesse of Spirit did resolve to be master you checke your soft saying with if any of them may truly be so called well Sir what say you of Mr. Burroughs thus in his book which he writ against Doctor Ferne page 125. of the first impression of his book called the glorious name of the Lord of Hosts but in the last impression the 9. page It seemes by the way that Doctor Ferne and you are agreed and now what was written against Doctor Ferne proves written against you is this becomming a christian thus in your Spirituall warfare at the command of the world to face to the right to the left to the front to the reare halfe face face about and as you were but what saith Mr. Burroughs in the place before quoted thus But if the Parliament should degenerate and grow tyrannicall what meanes of safety could there be for a State Answ I confesse the condition of such a State would be very dangerous and like to come to confusion particular men could not helpe themselves and the whole State ought to suffer much before it should helpe it selfe by any wayes of resisting but if you can suppose a Parliament so farre to degenerate as all to conspire together with the King to destroy the Kingdome and to possesse the lands and riches of the Kingdome themselves in this case whether a law of nature would not allow of standing up to defend our selves yea to reassume the power given to them to discharge them of that power they had and to set up some other I leave to the light of nature to judge You will say This cannot be because the higher Powers must not be resisted by any Answ This is not properly to resist the power but to discharge the power and to set the power else-where hitherto Mr. Burroughs and is this all you can say of Mr. Burroughs It is well malice it selfe can pick no worse from his writings and truly Sir you might have spared your marginall hand and finger except you intended to direct the Reader to observe your ignorance and envy in collecting his saying for first Mr. Burroughs did assert nothing but left it to any mans determination whether the Law of Nature would not allow of such and such a course in such and such a case and it seemes you the State case resolver generall undertakes the decision Once more Mr. Bellamyâ— give us but this foundation to build upon as none but malignant-royalists will deny it viz. salus populi suprema lex and then I thinke you will hardly like a wise and solid man speak otherwise to that point the rest of your proceedings in your Vindication is
though through the blessing of God they have been crusht in most places and the truth is the printing of twenty thousands of the said Remonstrances as intelligence informes the dispersions thereof both in all the parts of this Kingdome and beyond the seas with the strong and powerfull enforcements thereof by the Ministers upon the people after Londons example to doe the like as time and opportunitie may evidence to the World did argue the desires of many the prime â—romoters of the city Remonstrance to be no lesse then to make divisions and to disturbe the peace and quiet of the Church and State Mr. Bellamy You proceed to make good your charge against two Libells viz. the one a Moderate reply to the City Remonstrance the other the Interest of England maintained you encounter chiefly with the first and I shall second the same and leave the other having never perul'd it First you acknowledge the City Representative is made up and chosen of the City Collective and I likewise acknowledge the Kingdome Representative to be made up and chosen by the Kingdome Collective neither is there any thing charged as criminall by the Reply in this constitution you grant this likewise a truth that it is more common then commendable for men trusted with other mens goods to behave themselves to their trustees hurt But you demand what doth this reflect upon the City Representative or its Remonstrance Since you will not see you shall see except with your tonguâ— you will deny what you see with your eyes a common thing in these back sliding times you tell us against whom this charge is made good and you tell us the truth viz. against such who being trusted with the soules of a people by their common consent and choice to be their Pastor Whether Presbyterian or Independent Parrochiall or Congregationall have in stead of feeding them with the sinceere Milke of the word that they may grow thereby fed them with the foolish fancies of their owne brain viâ— that such a kind of government so and so disposed and digegested into a Parochiall Classicall Provinciall and Synodiall constitution with power and authority here and there placed to compell and enforce men to submit thereunto though against their owne judgements and consciences and that the Magistrate ought to exact uniformitie from all that live under them is jure Divino a meere fancie of their owne braine and in stead of keeping them together in the bond of unity have broken them to pieces with rents and divisions viz. representing those who agree not with them to be Heretiques Sectaries Schismatiques and what not and thus reâ—ding a sunder a people of as sweet nature heavenly spirit and loving conversation in former times as the world hath known It is confest Mr. Bellamy that these these are the men which behave themselves to their trustees hurt you proceed to answer what the Replyer tells you viz. that there are 4. cases wherein the City collective is not bound to the City Representative but ought in duty to dissent from it if not to protest against it Moderate Reply First when the City representative acts in a direct evident obvious maner against the expresse wil word of God 2. When in the like plaine and direct manner it acts against the apparent welfare peace and good of the Kingdome 3. When it acts after the same manner against the proper end of its owne being the Cities welfare 4. When it acts beyond the bounds limits and extents appointed to the endangering of all its immunities and freedomes This you affirme is the replyers plat-forme or ground-work of his after building and scoffingly say it is sutable thereunto though you except not against any one of these propositions but say you he dares not affirme that the City representative doth act in any one of the foure cases it may be it was more his modesty to forbeare then his impudency in case he had charged the City by that Remonstrance to act in them all and had it been Mr. John Bellamies act as it was the act of the City I would have undertooke and would have looked upon it as no great task to have proved him acting against every one of them and for that time made a separation a schisme from the society of Anonimusses You paralel the City Representatives the City Collective unto the Kingdome Representative and the Kingdome Collective I freely grant that the paralel holds good I mean as touching the constitution of the Kingdome Representative and City representative viz. by the collective body of the one and of the other though not in respect of their power and am not a fraid to grant it likewise that if the Kingdome representative should act in a direct plaine and obvious manner against the expresse will and word of God against the apparent welfare peace and good of the Kingdomâ— c. That the Kingdome collective ought in duty not to consent unto it As for the instance which you bring from Mr. Burtons affirmation from his 51 52. pages of his book called the vindication of those Churches commonly called Independents to make good your logick had not your silver shrines of the Presbyterian Temple dazled your eyes and dâ—mmed your sight you might have found assertions in abundance from the Presbyterian Authors which differ no more from what Mr. Burton saith in that point then twelve pence differs from a shilling please you Sir examine Mr. George Gillespy in the 13. Page of his book cal'd Nihil respondes written against Mr. Coleman and Mr. Samuel Rutherford in the last page of the Epistle to the Reader in his book called the divine right of Chuâ—ch gâ—vernment and Excommunication And see if he saith not as much and more of Mr. Burtons sence in that point then Mr. 〈◊〉 himsâ—â—fe hath said I for beare to set downe the words as supposing you are not without the books I referre you to and if thâ—se two will not suffice as occasion is offer'd you shall have 20 and 〈◊〉 of the Presbyterian party that shal be produced to have saiâ— the same but to the poynt in hand suppose the representative Kingdome that I may give you an instance in a case as you have given to the replyer should make a law for the hanging burning or banishing all such as shall deny the Popes supremacy the reall presence in the Sacrament of the Lords supper or other grosse popish absurdityes suppose they should establish Mahomatisme c. Is not the Kingdom collective bound in conscience and duty to dissent from it if not to protest against it suppose they should command us to abjure Iesus Christ and turne Iewes ought not you â— every man in the Kingdome to dissent from it if not to protest against it nay suppose that they should set up a government in a direct and knowne opposition to the word of God and the example of the best reformed Churches ought we not to
of little worth granting almost what the Replyer required only I see you most extreamely shuffling in one point that were you nor so well skil'd in facings might make men wonder at you and that is where the Replyer chargeth an untruth in the Remonstrance and bring in your self to stand by him and that is about the displacing or casting out of Mr. Quarterman from his Marshall ship of London the Remonstrance saith the City did cast him out the Replyer saith the City did not cast him out but it was the Lord Major and Court of Aldermen which are not the City either collective or representative in no sense the City as having power hereunto and hee produceth you to stand by him What Master Bellamy will you not stand by him in your booke called a Plea for the Commonalty of London wee have your judgement under your hand in blacke and white and will you faulter now you are called out to make it good Had you not better been an Anonymus when you writ that booke Then Master John Bellamy what kind of man are you They that observe your sayings what they have been formerly concerning the King concerning the Lords concerning the power of the Commons whispering your thoughts in the ears of many that now speak of it what your carriages have been not very long since in the Common Councel in or among your brethren the Stationers the Committee appointed for the keeping up and maintaining the expository Lectures and what your carriages are now stand with admiration and amazement at your wheeling thus about You say little more to the Replyer only I find you once more in an extreame heat of passion against him because he told the Remonstrant s of their pressing the Parliament to a suddaine payment of their debts c. you take on thus What is it now come to that passe that when the City and Cityzens of London who have lent and expended for the use and service of the Parliament more and greater vast sums ofâ—money then ever any if not all the Cities in the Land have done nay then ever any Citie in all the world a great word Mr. Bellamy and you need to be as able and dilligent a Reader as seller of bookes to make good what you say have done at any one time to and for the service of that State in which it stood and yet must it now by an Anonymus a Libeller be taxed c. Hold Mr. Bellamy leâ—'s have lesse of your passion and more of your reason doe not you give as just an occasion for others to say if they should steer their pens by your compasse What is it now come to that passe Shall not only the City overtaken as the best of Ciâ—ies may sometimes be see forth as strange a Remonstrance reflecting prejudice upon a Parliament that have done more and suffered more for them and by whom they have received more good then by any Parliament that ever they had nay it is verily believed then ever any Parliament in the world ever did for a City in any state where it hath been but must a private person a John Bellamy an Episcopall man an Anti-Episcopall man an Anâ—baptist an Anti-Anabaptist a Separate an Anti Sepâ—rate an Episcopall man again an Anti Episcopall man a Presbyterian a halfe Presbyterian so bi-fronted as to deny Presbyterie to be Jure Divino and yâ—t helping on the pressing and inforcing of it upon his bretâ—ren that cannot submit unto it because they cannot see it Jure Devino a Sectary an Anti-Sectarie a Schismatique an Anti Schismatique a Scoffer at new lights Doctrines of a new date a some thing an any thing an every thing must such a man as this stand forth in print with his vindication of such a Remonstrance You have a few words more yet to the Replyer he tells you he knowes not your meaning by private and separate Congregations you tell him what the City meanes but truly Sir except you shew your commission to be the City Interpreter you must give men leave yet to scruple what they meant thereby he tells you again he knowâ—s not your meaning by Anâ—baptists and Brownists you tell him they mean those so called by the Parliament not by the King printed in the booke of Declarations pag 659. What ever the Replyer thinkes I believe the Remonstrantes meanes those who ever they be that are but disâ—ffected to Presbyteriall Government as will easily appeare by comparing that second Petition of the Remonstrance with the third and fourth which next followes You find fault with the Replyer because he will not joyne with you in the third Petition viz. that as wee are all subâ—â—cts of one Kingdome so all may be equally required to yeild obedience to that government set forth or to be set forth by the Parliament The Reâ—â—yer saith that such a thing is against Religion and reason you answer no the meaning of this Petition is that one Law may equalâ—y obâ—iegâ— every Subject in this Kingdome and for this you give us a cluster of proofes you bid the Replyer make it out iâ— he can â—f there was any more then one Law that did bind the Church of Israell of old in the times of any of the Pattiarchs the Judges the Kings the Governors either before in or after the Captivity oâ— since the comming of Christ or of the Apostles either in the Churches of Jerusalem Antioch Rome Corinth Galatia Ephesus Philippi Colosse Thessalouica and the seven Churches of Asia c. But what is all this to the point in hand were any of these Churches you speake of governed by a politticall government according to the prudence of the States wherein they were or according to a divine rule given unto them from God doe yon Mr. Bâ—llamy with your bretheren Remoâ—strants desire the ParliameÌ„t to settle that pâ—atâ—forme of government which Christ hath appointed or noâ—lâ— no alâ— yâ—ur great â—cap of Scripâ—ure â—nstances are not to the purpose 〈◊〉 so be you doe so Why then one turne more Mr. Bellamy and conlesse that though yesterday you did not own any plat forme of Church government to be Jurediâ—ino yet to day you have new light and if so doe no longer jeare at new â—ight 〈◊〉 so be you hold Church government to be Jure politice why then iâ—â—he Parliament judge Jus politicum to permit uâ—en differing in judgment in that point let them alone You have here done with the Replyer and â—un to his Partner and let him answer you for I neither know him nor his Book FINIS
will be ever an annon before our eyes and as we apprehend it we shall speake unto it OR AN ANSWER TO TWO LATE LIBELLS PUBLISHED BY TWO ANONYMUSSES 1 And why two libells Mr. Bellamy you might have forborne that untill you had proved them so but it seemes this is a tast of your Presbyteriall justice we are like to find from you when power is in your hands First passe sentence and after examine what ever it is because written as you suppose by an Antipresbyter it must needs be a Libell is this Christian Mr. Bellamy to condemn mens persons for Heretiques Sectaryes Schismatiques though you never define the things you affirme their doctrines for errours untruths blasphemies though you heare not what they say their writings for lyes falsity libells so soone as ever you looke on their bookes But Secondly must they needs be libells because reflecting upon the City Remonstrance is not the Remonstrance it selfe reflecting upon the High Court of Parliament by this kind of arguing what would follow Thirdly Are they therefore libells because written by two Anonymusses if so how many Presbyterian Libells doe you fell in a yeare may it not as well be the modesty of some to forbeare as the impudency of others as the case may stand to affix their names to their writings some men will blush even in a good cause when others will brazen their foreheads and audaciously set to their names to that which is bad apprehension of selfe abilities wit and worth and affectation of popularity being strong temptations hereunto but what are names to things the Author to the matter doth this adde or take away it is the weakenesse of the Reader when the knowledge of the Author helpes his opinion as touching the matter he that shall judge the better of your vindication because Iohn Bellamy appeares in the frontispiece or the worse of the reply because written by an Anonymus is more acquainted with titles then bookes and regards more the authority of mens persons then Arguments but because some men cannot find fault with that that is they will be quibling at that that is not and truly Sir by that time your vindication hath been throughly examined it willappeare to have been as much for your credit if you had crouded your selfe among the sect of Anonymusses as to stand out by the name of Iohn Bellamy In the title page thereof And the truth is of all Sects that is the most innocent for though they differ from one another in many points yea all the heavens over yet they never seeke the ruine and distruction of one another may not you learn of them Mr. Bellamy Fourthly In the fourth place are they therefore Libells because containing in them lyes falsities untruths as for one of those bookes viz. the Interest of England maintained I never read and therefore shall not at all intermeddle therewith but leave it to the Authors justification as for the other viz. The moderate reply to the Citie Remonstrance I confesse I have read it over and over once and againe and however there may possibly be mistakes more then enough for the holy Scripture it selfe excepted where is that writing without mistakes surely neither this Vindication nor the City Remonstrance are any but I am so perswaded of that spirit that fram'd it that he would not willingly write lyes for all the estate and preferment either Civill or Martiall that the Citie or Kingdome can conferre upon him but let us see what mistakes untruths or lyes you can find therein that so we may the better know the nature of a libell hereafter Fiftly In the last place are they therefore Libells because little bookes though the word is alwayes taken with us in the bad sence yet it properly signifies nothing more why then your Vindication yea the Remonstrance it selfe with those you speake of may all passe for Libells and the Authors of them all for so many Libellers We have done with your title-page wherein you have been very free in accusations and promises but how short you are in the proofe of the one and performance of the other your booke will declare It begins thus in Capitall letters A VINDICATION OF THE CITY REMONSRANCE That is A Vindication of that which is invindicable and therefore better it would be that both the City Remonstrance and the Vindication thereof were written in Ashes with the finger of vanitie then in marble with the pen of a Diamond except men should looke upon it as a beauty spot the better to set off the other more faire beautifull and praise-worthy expresses from the City of London But to come to your Booke You begin with a truth in the position and proofe to this purpose Sathans instruments like Athaliah 2 King 11. have alwayes accused others first whereof themselves are chiefly guilty even so the disturbers of the quiet and peace of the Church and State viz. the Heretiques and Sectaries which of late in this Nation doe so much abound cry out upon those which endeavour their discovery as the only perturbers of the Parliaments proceedings Ans It was the observed custome of the Bishops Chaplins great Apostates in their latter dayes that they did very frequently carrie on the Doctrinall part of their Sermons after a very sollid and orthodox manner but mar'd all in the Application thereof bending the force of all that they said against the peaceable in the Earth the sons and daughters of the most high God under the black and ugly vizards of Heretiques and Sectarâ—es disturbers of the quiet and peace of the Church and State even so Mr. Bellamy whose former wayes were the very selfe same as shall be proved anon upon which the mallice ignorance and envie of those present times writes Heresies Sectarisme Disturbance of the quiet and peace of the Church and State layes downe a truth in the position cleares it by Scripture but bends the application of it against others though it turnes back like a sharpe sword into his owne side for see his applycation of the aforesaid truth Mr. Bellamy Aâ— by two late libells put forth in answer to the City Remonstrance and in defence of Heretiques and Sectaries doth appeare But Sir were you as wise or rather conscientions in giving to every one his portion and to devide the word of truth aright as you seeme to be able to observe truth from the word you would apply it else where and nor where you have done for if you examine things by their nature or by their effects you shall not find the moderate Reply but the City Remonstrance to be the disturber of the quiet and peace of the Church and State witnesse the divisions which it hath wrought in Bedfordshire Hartfordshire Norfolke Suffolâ—â— and in many other places an accompt whereof you may have in season raising up parties after Londons example to set forth such peremptory Remonstrances to the Parliament and people as never were known in this Kingdome before
not offended why is there not one word in all the Remonstrance arguing some care in reference to Tender conscience nay if there be but disaffection unto Presbyteriall government in any though never so holy Godly learned fit able yet let them not have any place of trust in martiall or civill affaires saith this hard hearted Remonstrance You bid the Replyer tell you which are the words in the Remonstrance which intimates to the people that a sacred obligation lyeth upon them from the solemne league and covenant unto a downe right suppression of all those who out either of weake or tender conscience cannot submit to Presbyteriall government He tell you they are the words of the Second Third and Fourth Petition wherein you desire that all non-conformists to Presbyterie may be proceeded against and put out from any place of publique trust and this you inferre to be the intent of the Covenant by comparing these petitions with the third page of the Remonstrance upon which you build the same In the next place you except against the Replyer for saying the Parliament hath promised in severall Declarations a gracious respect unto Tender Conscience You bid him shew those Declarations it seemes you are wiâ—â—ing to hide your eyes from such observations in the Parliaments Declarations as though this were an abomination to you that they should have any respect to Tender Consciences have you foâ—gotten the very last Declaration of the 17 of Aprill 1646 page 5 Pray you mind it it is worth your imitation it is the Parliament of Englands Declaration by your own assertion for you call the House of Commons the Parliament In the 4 page of this Vindication and the last Line and were I as well furnished with bookes as your selfe doubtlessed I could shew you severall other Declarations where they promised a Christian respect unto Tender Consciences I am sorty Mr. Bellamy you should be so apt now adayes to â—ast out of your memory the praise worthy acts of the Parliament You proceed againe affirming the Replyer chargeth another falshoâ—d upon the Remonstrants by this interrogation is it not most abjurd that the Parliament shall compose and enjoyne the Covenant and other shall put their sense upon it and endeavour the enforcement of their owne sense both upon them and the whole Kingdome for no lesse is insinuated saith he in this Remonstrance page 3. I pray you Sir doe not you enforce both upon the Parliament and whole Kingdome this to be the sense of the Covenant viz. such an universal settlement of the Presbyteriall government as that all that will not submit thereunto should be by some effectuall course proceeded against admitted into no place of publique trusts and yet you say you will not receive any forced construction thereof and doe not you in your owne judgement walke according to the word of God in so doing and yet you endeavour to enforce all Annabaptists Brownâ—usts Sectaries c. to receive this for a reformation viz. Presbyteriall Government and is there such a word in the Covenant is it not therefore a forced interpretation You goe on and tell the Replyer he jeares you in saying you told the People in print as well as the Parliament in their written Remonstrance what vowes you have made in the Covenant and bring in the order of the House of Lords for the printing thereof together with their gracious answer thereunto as your justification for your princing the same and hereupon you quibble and insult over the Replyer as if now you had met with him to purpose but I le answer for him by asking you a question or two Did the House of Lords command or order the printing of your Remonstrance before it was ever tendered to them I am confident they did not and as confident I am and can prove it by a cloud of witnesses that a copy of that Remonstrance of which the Replyer speakes was printed come forth of the Presse and many of them sold when you were at Westminster with the Originall thereof yea severall houres before you came home Secondly I demand further did their Lordships order that Remonstrance to be printed which you tendered to the House of Commons If they did not you doe but falter and baffle as if you had children to deale withall by urging their Lord-ships order to print that that was delivered to them as a justification of printing the other and the Replyer speakes of that which was tendered to the Commons not of that which was tendered to the Lords Page 3. You said the Replyer deales like a jugglâ—r who juggles now Mr. Bellamy Doubtlesse juggling better becomes an Anonymus then a Colonell In the next place you demand of the Replyer wherein the Remonstrance discourageth the Parliament and it is answered to your hands by pressing them to a suddain enfeebling of their strength by crushing a considerable party of as Cordiall friends as ever they had since the wars began And is not this evident when you desire an effectuall course might be taken for the suppression of all those whereof there are many thousands in the Kingdome as cordiall friends to the Parliament as any the Remonstrants whatsoever who cannot submit to Presbyteriall government In the next place you begin with an Interrogation and as if you had gotten a commission to insult thus What Is Londons care to keep their Covenant now become Londons ruine c. Doubt lesse these are doctrines of a new date and neere a kinne to those new lights which so many now a dayes doe so much boast of Whether now Mr. Bellamy I professe my heart akes and my hand trembles shall I write or shall I forbeare I passed by your scoffing at new lights page 10. once before and tooke no notice of it But I meet with it againe yea with an additionall scoffe Doctrines of a new date and new Lights well Sir are you not ashamed to appeare as you doe against your brethren under the name of Heretiques Sectaries Schismatiques in Common-Counsell in the City Remonstrance and in print after such a jearing and scoffing manner what can the world judge of your selfe who have made so many turnings in matters of Religion as you have made How can you scoffe at new lights since your selfe have been of so many various and contrary opinions in matters of Religion If intelligence speakes true you are that Mr. John Bellamy who was borne at or neere Oundle in North-Hamptonshire a Sonne of the Church of England under Episcopasie who after breeding yeares and capacity had made you meet was brought up to London and bound Apprentice to Mr. Nicolas Bourne Citizen and Stationer of London and in a considerable part of the time of your Apprentice-ship As concerning Religion for thereto only I refâ—rre was a very zealous professor even to a very popular observation exercising such strictnesse and exactnesse in keeping and preserving that rich Jewell a quiet and tender conscience as that you would not