of Gods unity is in the eternal Spirit I shall here shew that the Apostles exhorted the Corinthians to be of the same mind and Judgment though T. C. saith It seems contrary to the Scripture and quotes Rom. 14.5 c. as if the Apostles contradicted himself which would be wicked to Assert or insinuate Now the 1 Cor. 10. it s said Now I beseech you Brethren by the name of the Lord Jesus Christ that ye all speak the same thing and that there be no Divisions or Schisms among you but that ye be perfectly joyned together in the same mind and in the same Judgment And Rom. 15.5 6. the Apostle said Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be like minded one towards another according to Christ Jesus or after the Example of him who did wear the seamless Coat That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorifie God even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ see 1 Cor. 12.12 13 14 25. yea the whole Chapter I think I may say if thou was not a Novice as thou termest me in the Scripture thou would never have made such a noise as thou hast about this Position but I shall leave my Reader to judge whether thou art one of them that thinks to be heard for thy much babling c. or whether for this Doctrine thus agreeing with Scripture and own'd by T. C. I have proved my self like the wicked Atheist a Lyar wicked and false Accusers and proud Boaster or T. C. Another Lie in the 18 pag. thou chargest me with is for saying Thou pratest against the Truth But if all what thou hast writ be true I might acknowledge it so but it s not therefore remember a false Witness shall not be unpunished and he that speaketh Lies shall perish so read thy portion if thou repent not For the prating Fool shall fall said Solomon And Thomas I will assure thee it 's not thy thinking this or that that 's any proof tho' it 's thy practice in several Pages of thy Book so to say as rich as thou art thy word will not be taken herein I doubt thou art a little pufft up in thy mind with the conceit of thy Riches well remember it s said It makes it self wings and flies away and therefore do not because of it assume to tell my meaning and what I think as in the 13 page c. for that thou knowest not and therefore in so saying thou assumes God's Prerogative who according to Amos 4. last shews what the thoughts are and manifestest thy self a Lyar as well as Conceited I don't say like Irish as thou speaks of page 12. And in thy 4th Ba. p. 12. thou saist I judge not nor condemn any person for their Judgment and practice that differs from me that is not a breach of the Revealed Will of God and have often certified as much Then pray prove my Doctrine viz. that Friends Unity viz. faithful ones is in that eternal Spirit that leads all them that are faithful thereunto to be of one mind prove I say this contrary to the Revealed Will of God if thou canst and if their Unity is in it as thou ownest then they are one in it c. if it be not thus proved the contrary by the Revealed Will of God without thy thinkings and say-so's for alas that won't do indeed Tho. it wont also prove that the names thou call'st me and R.R. thy scoffing Lies and Raylery in thy Book is according to the Revealed Will of God which if it be the Scripture thou call'st the Revealed Will of God pray let me have Chapter and Verse as thou saist p. 8. and as also F. Bugg in his confused Book well Thomas don't think I have here pickt out all thy Lies Slanders Nick-names c. in thy Rabble of Railery thou callst Babels Builders c. no no for I question whether all the Paper I have here writ will hold them but if thou persist may be I may give a Catalogue of them But thy Tongue to me doth not appear to be that which is said to be a Tree of Life but rather to be set on fire of Hell So I think I may conclude and say with Solomon A poor man is better than a Lyar and he that hath a froward heart findeth no good and he that hath a perverse Tongue falleth into mischief yea the fools lips enter into contention and his mouth calleth for strokes So Thomas do thou make right application hereof And take a large measure or quantity of unfeigned Repentance Humility and the fear of the Lord and lie still therein until thou hast felt the righteous Judgments of God brought forth into victory over that Conceitedness Pride and Wrath which hath so much filled thy heart that it hath bred as I may say an evil disease that sticks fast unto thy Soul yea and the very Scab of Contention and if this means the Lord inclines thy heart unto thou maist thereby obtain Cure Which that thou maist is my real desire if it be God's Will for I find through the goodness of the Lord the Spirit of forgiveness in my Heart towards thee But if you still remain angry I am of Solomon's mind who saith Make no Friendship with an Angry man and with a furious man thou shalt not go And Thomas thou saist pag. 9. something about my having a high conceit of my self for which thou saist thou seest no cause for it except it 's my high living at where saist thou I think thou hast no cause to complain of thy high Rent Well Thomas I perceive thou makest the Proverb good That every Fool will be meddling tho' this concerns thee not but I would have thee know that I have and do as honestly pay my Rent as thee and for ought I know thy dwelling and mine considered as much as thou dost Well Dust it 's said is the Serpents meat who creeps upon his Belly and makes his Followers Back-biters Lyars and Creepers like himself and his Children loves the same meat and as greedily feed thereof when they get it as is manifested by thy collecting the Letters of divers persons names in thy fourth Page which if true manifest thy self to be one of cursed Ham's brood c. And I observe that thou maliciously speaks in thy 5 page of some That have been guilty of evil words and actions and yet have been owned as God's faithful Servants and in the Power of God and adds our Vnity is in forms Answ Observe his words have been But I affirm no person in the eternal power of God can be found in evil words and actions neither can those that are therein have Unity with such for all that goes into evil words and actions goes from the power of God and are by the same power Judged and Condemned and them that keep in the eternal power of God cannot have Unity with them therein but if any have gone from the power
of God and they Return and Repent they may find mercy with God and have Unity with his faithful people which we desire and if thou should so do we should greatly rejoyce And I would have thee consider whether thy exposing the Letters of the Names of those Persons in page 4. doth not prove that thou hast in thy Fore-head the more certain and legible Character of that thou callest the Beasts mark viz. Hatred and Strife Thou takest little or no notice as I observe in thy Book of our 20 and 21 Pages of T. C's Envy Detected c. which shews how the Barbados Friends have been abused by some for ought I know of Party with thee who got a wrong Copy not according to the sence of the Meeting see our Book aforesaid Do them Justice and do not abuse them in Print any more but if thou dost read what they say for themselves and publish it too Also in thy 14. p. I find thee angry about my saying it s thy Principle to Pay Tithes and be Married by a Priest saying herein as his usual manner is Lies be his Refuge and in the same Page thou sayst I falsly insert that it was thy Principle to Marry by a Priest and pay Tythes and yet in the same Page thou sayst thou asked J. B. and my self whether thy self or another might not Marry by a Priest and pay Tythes and to which sayst thou J. B. said he believed it was my viz. T. C's Principle to which thou T. C. Answers it was viz. that one might Marry by a Priest and pay Tythes and be a Christian Well if this be not thy Principle why was it thy Practice was it to manifest thy self an Hypocrite or one that acts contrary to thy Principle I think if that was all thou might have spared thy pains at least to many who have and do know thee thou askest me in the 8. p. What warrant from Scripture I have to term thy Marriage an Evil c. I answer that when thou according to thy Assertion in the 19. p. of thy fourth Babel c. hath proved that there is President and Command in Scripture for what thou didst in that matter and for having a Ring and saying after the Priest I say when thou hast proved this thou mayst expect to hear more from me But this I may add that in the 13. p. thou say'st But in case I had so said viz. that to pay Tythes and Marry by a Priest c. was my Principle it doth not follow that I therefore must so do Well Tho. it seems then thou dost not look upon thy self bound to Act according to what thou say'st nay nay I am of the mind that 's little enough regarded by thee c. But who is the Quibbler now which by long practice is grown expert Oh Tho. I tell thee I for ever desire rather to be a Dunce in saying one thing and doing another than Expert except the saying hath relation to slander falshood and untruth c. it would be better not to practice such sayings though it 's too much thy practice in thy confused Babels so to say And in the 13. p. thou say'st I am angry that thou said'st That Submitting to the Magistrates for Conscience sake is accounted Submitting to the Pope And here Tho. thou hast done worse than Quibble thus maliciously to insinuate as if we accounted Submitting to the Magistrate for Conscience sake was a Submitting to the Pope which is a lying false and wicked Insinuation that tends to stir up and insence the Magistrate against our Friends and it 's so much the worse at this time because many lyes under severe and grievous Sufferings by Imprisonment and spoil of Goods c. which ungodly and unchristian Insinuation thou ushers in thus 15 p. 4 Bab. It 's a wonder to me when I consider how many have been incouraged to deny or refuse Submission to Authority on pretence of Conscience and such accounted faithful and valiant Friends c. but for being subject to the Magistrate for Conscience sake is accounted submitting to the Pope Answ But if I did not by thy Scribling find that the Spirit of Enmity had enter'd thee and that thou art thereby instigated thus to write I might wonder that T.C. should thus falsly and maliciously Inform against such accounted faithful and honest Friends and insinuate that they were incouraged to deny or refuse submission to Authority under or on pretence of Conscience And do not the malicious Informers give such like Evidence against our peaceable Meetings in the Sp. of Christ c. as that they are on pretence or under colour c. when the Lord knows it's no truer than what T. C. enviously saith viz. notoriously false for we refuse not submission to Authority in any thing on pretence c. but in reality and we are subject to Authority either in Active or Passive obedience for Conscience sake desiring to lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty making our Prayers and Supplications c. for all men for Kings and them that are in Authority knowing that it 's good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour who would have all men saved and come to the knowledge of the Truth And now Thomas consider who is the Forger Informer Maker of Lies and thy Master as thou mentions in the 10 and the 13 pag. And whether thou art not in the very practice of Forging Informing and making Lies for thy Master and Father of Lies I say Consider of it and Repent thereof before it 's too late for he that soweth iniquity shall reap vanity and the Rod of his anger shall fail Thou hast not made a litttle Clamour about the Paper writ into the Country in which it was said at the Conclusion viz. and have no Vnity with T. C. this thou callest my Bull of Excommunication tho' the words were used in a private Letter c. But Thomas if it be a Bull of Excommunication for me to say I have no Vnity with thee what is it for thee to say I am of the Synagogue of Satan and to compare me to them Paul fought with at Ephesus besides the names mentioned before nay in the 13 p. to render me worse than a Cheat Pick-pocket or Mercenary Reformado as thy terms are for I suppose thou wilt grant these may be defamed as bad as they be but thy Enmity is so great against me that thou saist I cannot defame thee To which I Answer The Lord Rebuke thee thou false and lying Tongue and maist not be said unto thee if thou Repent not Thou lovest all devouring words Oh thou deceitful Tongue God shall likewise destroy thee for ever he shall take thee away and pluck thee out of thy dwelling place and root thee out of the Land of the living the Righteous also shall see and fear and shall laugh at him Lo this is the man that made not God his
J. F's Reply UNTO Thomas Crisp's Rapsody of Lies Slanders and Defamations of J. F. and R. R. c. Entituled The Fifth Part of Babel Builders c. An unjust man is an Abomination to the Just and he that is upright in the way is an abomination to the wicked There is a Generation whose Teeth are Swords and their Jaw Teeth as Knives to devour the Poor from the Earth and the needy from among men The Soul of the wicked desireth Evil and his Neighbours findeth no favour in his eyes Prov. 21.10 Who whet their Tongue like a Sword and bend their bow to shoot their Arrows even bitter words Psal 64.3 To the Reader shewing in brief our present Exercise is not new Courteous READER I Thought meet to remind thee how that Enmity and wroth soon entered the Heart of Cain against his innocent Brother Abel because his offering was not accepted And there was a Korah a Dathan and Abiram that pretended to holiness tho' wicked men and rose up against that meek man Moses Numb 16. And there was a Rabshekeh that was highly conceited of himself no doubt when with vain words he said I have Councel and Strength c. and said The Lord said to me Go up against this Land and destroy it 2 Kings 18 19. But the Virgin Daughter of Zion despised him shak'd her head at him and laughed him to scorn and they that are in the same Spirit now are his Off-spring for all their high words and pretences of being the Christian Quakers c. There was also we read a Judas that betrayed his Master c. and false Brethren among the Apostles that did then as T. C. doth now prate against the Truth yea there were some that brought in damnable Doctrines c. and I shall leave thee to Judge whether this man is not in the same Spirit and instigated by him out of whose Mouth came the unclean Spirits like Froggs see Rev. 16.13 to belye slander and mis-represent the Friends of Truth and People of the Lord in this our Age to whom I wish Repentance to the acknowledgment of his Fault and remain thy Friend J. F. And now I shall apply my self to T. C. Thomas Crisp I Have seen a Paper of thine wherein it plainly appears to me thou hast in thy pride and wrath said viz. For J. F. and R.R. they are such inconsiderable Persons that I am almost ashamed that I have taken any notice of them Answ Well Thomas thou maist be quite and altogether ashamed of thy belying slandering and defaming of us but I perceive Solomon said true A Fools mouth is his destruction and his lips the snare of his Soul and proud and haughty Scorner is his Name that dealeth in proud wrath for wrath killeth the foolishman and envy slayeth the sillyone But remember better is the poor that walketh in his uprightness than he that is perverse in his waies though he be rich And if thou T. C. art rich and wise in thy own conceit them that thou accountest poor have understanding and have searched thee and find there is more hopes of a Fool But as inconsiderable as we be if T.C. or any other can bring the man that can prove that ever either of us had any thing of any but what we came honestly by and without begging or laboured for or received of any one Farthing or Farthings worth directly or indirectly for Preaching for every Penny they shall have two for though we have and do Administer as occasion serves we do not receives Through the Lord's blessing there is no need And truly it thou art a rich man it 's pity thou should be so malicious and foolish to turn Informer as thou dost in publick Print and in the very Title page of thy Book against an inconsiderable Person too in thy esteem sure thou wast more malicious than wise herein for what couldst thou expect to gain of such an one Well this is no new thing for when the Devil could not have his will of Job to lead him into wickedness nor prevail upon on him to make him Answer his mind c. he turned Informer against him so thou maist see and read who is the father of all mercenary and ungodly malicious Informers and what became of Rich Haman that inform'd against poor Mordecai and sought the destruction of the people he belonged to and told lies to effect it though a better man than himself though not so Rich. Thou callest thy Book A Reply to several Lies Slanders false and wicked Insinuations of R. Richardson and J. Field 's Inhabitant and Preacher and then tells where and the place of his abode and adds of G. F's Party Pray observe the Informers Information and mark his Enmity for his Book I may say is stuffed with that he falsly pretends it 's a Reply unto viz. Lies c. and with some Billingsgate as thou saist pag. 17. manners for thee calls names as Drudges Arrogant Prater Inquisitor to the Bull and Mouth like a lazy begging Fryar false Accuser like Mercenary Reformado's Black Fryer like Fellow He viz. J. F. may have an Eye to an Apparitor or Informers place Well Thomas but what ever eye thou maist maliciously suggest I may have thou hast taken the Informers place before me but I will not here tell where thou livest lest others should hear of this thy new Undertaking Besides I wish thou maist grow wiser tho' I am of the wise Man's mind That there is more hopes of a Fool than a man wise in his own conceit for the foolishman perverteth his way and his heart fretteth against the Lord yea and his People to I may say proving That evil men and Seducers wax worse and worse deceiving and being deceived Thou chargest me with a Lie in thy 18 pag. for speaking of Friends and saying Their Vnity is in the eternal Spirit Sure Thomas if thee Believes there be any Friends to God and Christ thou must grant their Unity is there or else inform me where it is indeed pag. 3. thou saist there quoting John Their fellowship is in the Light and what difference is there between the Light John there spoke of and the eternal Spirit But prethee Thomas hear thy self a little further how egregiously thou contradicts thy self and Preaches the same Doctrine which thou art angry with me for c. page 6. thou saist I own all faithful Friends and People of God their Vnity is in the eternal Spirit Very well Thomas and are not they that are faithful to the Spirit of God faithful Friends I will assure thee I never meant nor said that unfaithful Friends or Ranters and them that be not the People of God were of one mind or that their Unity was in the Eternal Spirlt And seeing thou saist p. 3. Take this Assertion not strictly but to the Church or People of God it seems contrary to Scripture c. though thou in the 6. pag says thou owns the People
to T. C. which is The foolish Woman she is clamorous she is simple and knoweth nothing and if T. C. knoweth any thing as he ought to know he practiceth little thereof in his Scribble against Friends which also brings to my remembrance the saying of the Prophet to the sottish Children They are wise to do evil but to do good they have no knowledge And in the 12 page saith T. C J. F. saies A Remnant are taught not to buy or receive any of these mens corrupt Doctrines viz. Books hereby insinuating Friends should not read what was writ in detection of them c. To which I Answer I did and do say that God hath so preserved a Remnant in his fear that from him they have received wisdom and thereby are taught not to buy or receive any of these mens corrupt words and false Doctrines but I did not say Books that 's a piece of Forgery or something like it of T. C's to annex Books which when he hath slyly foisted in he saith Therefore if you will try all things and see for your selves and not give up all to them then you are not of one mind and so not of the faithful c. and charges us with Impudence Answ Well it 's said The wicked worketh a deceitful work and I shall leave my Reader to judge whether T. C. hath not so done herein by adding the word Books and then like a man fighting with his shaddow or one that Beats the Air he talks or writes but it 's like had he not stuffed in or added that word he would have wanted matter to have quarrelled with but at adding and patching curtailing transposing and mangling and mischievously misplacing he is more ready than honest see his Collection of Testimonies and call'd the third Edition delivered at Grace-Church-street the 26th of the Fifth Month 82. in his 11 page where he cites E. B's Works and how grosly he abuses him let the Reader see and judge by taking a few words in one place viz. the 852. p. and leaving off at a Comma and then go back thirteen or fourteen lines and begin at a Semicolon and leave off at a Semicolon and then go forward about 63 pages in Folio to the 889. and takes a few lines more and then back again about 215 page to 594. and all to patch something together to make it speak as he would have it by all which he manifest himself to be notwithstanding his pretences in that Spirit the Jews were in that cryed up the Prophets garnished their Sepulchers and shew him that was the Life of the Prophets so T. C. cryes up J. P. E. B. c. and is in that Spirit that would murder the Life that was in them and is now in and among Friends But I thought not to have spent so much time about his Railing Book neither have I taken notice of all I justly might nor particularly Answered to all them Assertions as he falsly calls false but leave them to the unprejudiced with the Truth and Spirit of it to Judge who all them Names he calls me and R. R. if rightly applyed belong to And lastly observe in his last page he seems to Apologize as it conscious to himself for his harsh or sharp Writing and Expressions c. and saith They are our Weapons and ground at our Grindstone and sharpened by our selves and as uneasie as Saul 's Armour to David and no more delightful to him than a Wife and Children of Fornication c. To all which I in short Answer If it was true that they were ours as it 's false it might mitigate his fault but let him prove if he can we ever call'd him the Names aforesaid Mercinary Reformado's Inquisitor Black Guard of Lyars and many more and therefore I advise him to do by this Old man with his evil deeds of Lying c. As David did by Saul's Armour also no longer to delight in a Wife and Children of Fornication c. For the Lord hath determined to Plague her Whose Cup is full of Abomination and Filthiness of Fornication and to dash her Children and Bratts against that Stone which many now are stumbling at for Babylon is fallen is fallen and is become the habitation of Devils and the hold of every foul Spirit and Cage of every unclean and hateful Bird Rev. 18.2 Yea her Plagues shall come in one day death and mourning and famine and she shall be utterly burnt with fire therefore the voice from Heaven is come out of her my People that ye be not partakers of her sins and that ye receive not of her Plagues for her sins hath reached unto Heaven and God hath remembred her Iniquities and therefore wo be unto all Babel builders for strong is the Lord that judgeth her who will not regard the weeping the Mourning nor Lamentation of her Merchants because no man buyeth her Merchandize any more And Thomas I understand thy Books were given away at the Meeting-house-doors at Bull and Mouth the 14th of the 5th Month 1682. which to me is one proof more of thy great Enmity as well as Folly in so publickly manifesting thy Belying and Slandering c. of me and Friends So that in the words of the Prophet I may conclude Jer. 2.19 Thine own wickedness shall correct thee and thy back-slidings and Lyes c. shall reprove thee know therefore and see that it 's an evil thing and bitter that thou hast forsaken the Lord thy God and that my fear is not in thee saith the Lord God of Hosts Thou mayst take this at present as an Answer to thy Railing Book from thy Belyed and Slandered Friend J. Feild Junior THE END