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A78422 The depths of Satan discovered: or, the Jesuits last design to ruine religion. Being, some observations upon a pamphlet, called, The swords abuse asserted: by John Vernon. Presented to the consideration of the Armie. Citie. Kingdome. / By Philopatrius Philalethes. Cawdrey, Daniel, 1588-1664. 1649 (1649) Wing C1625; Thomason E539_1; ESTC R205694 19,373 34

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and may doe so now in the like cases yea Christians may Converse with them to convert them in their owne Countries But what 's this to the point in hand whether Magistrates Christian may restraine Idolaters in their owne Land from exercising their Idolatrie openly to the seducing of others as well as the publique dishonour of God Till this be proved let him know It is an unchristian slander to say That the Civill Sword in Spirituall Affaires is in its owne nature a Supporter of the Beast It hath beene so by accident abused the Magistrates themselves being Antichristian But if the Magistrate be Christian and Godly nothing is more destructive of the Beasts power as experience hath proved and nothing which the Beast doth more oppose then the Magistrates power in Spirituall Affaires as tha● which hath and doth and will at last utterly destroy his Usurped Kingdome Rev. 17.16 Christs weapons are very good and alone powerfull to make true Christians but the Magistrates Sword is also usefull to regulate them when so made Obj. 2. But would you have Idolaters to dwell amongst us men may then live as they list To this he answers I would indeed have all Jewes or Heathens or what ever Ignorants are native as freely to Converse as Commerce with you without restraint upon Religious Causes and that you would consider your selves might never have beene Converted if you should not so have beene freely suffered c. Repl. 1. What ever this man would have I am sure the Apostle would not have Christians freely to Converse which imports familiaritie intimacie with Idolaters no not in Civill Affaires 2 Cor. 6.14 Be not unequally yoked together in Marriage he meanes with Infidells or Vnbeleevers And vers 17. Summon all Christians to come out from among them and bee Separate and touch not the 〈◊〉 things 2. When he addes without Restraint upon Religious Causes it may be meant there First That they shall have free libertie to come to our Assemblies to heare the Word and that wee may discourse with them as occasion is offered to convert them or Secondly That they shall have libertie to Erect Synagogues or build Temples to Exercise their Idolatries in Christian ●ingdomes and ours be permitted freely to goe to their meetings where great danger of corruption of ours our nature being made prone to Heresie and Idolatrie as fruits of the flesh than hope of our Conversion of them If in the former sense he meane it wee grant it for otherwise wee or rather our fathers had never beene Converted They may come to us as Heathens of old might Proselyte to the Jewes If in the latter sense it is wee thinke clearely against Scripture side and the Saints practise Wee may not goe to them to their Idolatrous Temple nor make marriage with them c. nor yet suffer ours to be Seduced by them And here comes in the Restraint wee speake of by Superiours Fathers Masters Magistrates especially for the reason being the same and perpetually Morall it concernes the Christian Magistrate in the Gospell as well as the Jewish Magistrate Nor does this reprove Christ for providing no other meanes to restraine from Idolatry which he inferres For Christ hath provided other meanes even this power of Superiours in the sense aforesaid And I pray did this man never heare of whole Churches subverted by Heretiques and Idolaters What thinks he of the seven Churches of Asia and the Roman Church it selfe which he acknowledges and calls Antichristian Have not Seducers and Idolaters by degrees utterly subverted them Yet they whose names are written in the Booke of Life shall be preserved unto Heaven when the rest shall perish by his Toleration Obj. 3. But allow this and wee may quickly have our Civill State subverted He answers To this the experience of other Nations might bee a sufficient answer the Hollanders flourishing ever since they suffered every man to worship according to his conscience even Jewes themselves c. Repl. That prosperitie and flourishing should bee made a Marke of the Goodnesse of a State or Church by any but a Jesuit is to me very strange More that the Hollanders should be made a patterne of a true Reformed State And he may remember that if the Arminian Errours had prevailed in Holland but for a Toleration It was feared they had ere long subverted the State and reduced it into the King of Spains hand againe As for other States even the Roman it selfe considered either as Heathen Idolaters when they had a Pantheen of Gods and every one suffered to worship according to his Conscience or as Antichristian Idolaters since they worshipped the Host and Images they flourished in both Estates And prosperitie is rather a Marke of a false than a true Church Yea when Rome it selfe began to be Antichristian all Histories tel● us how the State of the Empire was subverted and taken from the Emperours and given to the Pope But sayes he observe that whilest every man enjoyes his libertie it is his proper Interest to endeavour the preservation of that Common-wealth for in that he preserves himselfe c. But say I this is Athiesticall prophane Policie Indeed if there were no God or nothing to be respected but mens own Quiet and Interest this were a fine way All Errours will reasonably well agree together as the Devills doe in Hell But if men have any conscience of their owne dutie in a zealous promoting of Gods glory in an earnest contending for the Faith once delivered to the Saint Jud. v. 3. or in a charitable care over the Soules of other men this Interest would be quickly layd aside Is it not the dutie of every Superiour Father Master Magistrate to advance the glory of God and to secure the Soules of their Inferiours as well as their bodies Concernes it not every faithfull Minister Yea Christian to maintain the Truth and oppose Error This man speakes of a Matchiavilian politique Religion without any zeale for God any charitie to mens soules where selfe-love and selfe-quiet c. onely predominates And if it be the dutie of every one as it is to contend earnestly for the Faith will not this meet with much opposition by hereticall Spirits And will not that cause the most mortall divisions and so procure ruine to the Church first and then to the State Truth must oppose Errours and Errours will oppose Truth And if there be but one Truth and many Errours will not all Errours oppose that one Truth though they tolerate one another The reason is Errours are but Diversa Divers for the most part amongst themselves but Truth and Errours are Contraria Contraries and can no more be reconciled than Light and Darknesse I shall give him but one instance at Rome it selfe where almost all Errours and Sects are tolerated onely Protestants are not tolerated because Protestant Truths oppose all Errours Romish as well as others Now marke what will be the issue of such a Toleration as the