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and_o many_o suffer_v bond_n and_o martyrdom_n from_o protestant_a brethren_n for_o the_o profession_n thereof_o p._n 260._o thessalonian_o 5._o thessalonian_o the_o church_n in_o thessalonica_n of_o the_o same_o faith_n and_o practice_v p._n 76._o fleming_n 6._o fleming_n the_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o flanders_n assert_v the_o same_o and_o multitude_n of_o martyr_n that_o witness_v thereto_o by_o blood_n p._n 267_o etc._n etc._n bohemian_o 7._o bohemian_o the_o church_n in_o bohemia_n witness_v to_o this_o truth_n and_o their_o great_a suffering_n for_o the_o same_o pag._n 271._o hungarian_n 8._o hungarian_n the_o church_n of_o hungaria_n of_o the_o same_o practice_n p._n 274._o pole_n 9_o pole_n the_o church_n in_o poland_n of_o like_a faith_n and_o practice_v p._n 274._o transilvanian_o 10._o transilvanian_o the_o church_n in_o transylvania_n of_o the_o same_o practice_n 274._o english_a 11._o english_a the_o church_n in_o this_o nation_n own_v the_o same_o principle_n and_o 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faith_n or_o testefy_v fruit_n for_o if_o no_o other_o as_o he_o say_v than_o not_o infant_n yet_o the_o same_o austin_n in_o contradiction_n hereto_o say_v baptism_n how_o weak_o &_o contradictious_o austin_n assert_n infant_n baptism_n let_v infant_n be_v baptize_v by_o the_o faith_n of_o another_o to_o take_v away_o original_a sin_n without_o which_o they_o can_v neither_o be_v regenerate_v or_o saveâ—_n now_o compare_v these_o two_o together_o what_o sound_a christian_a will_v not_o say_v that_o austin_n before_o speak_v the_o mind_n of_o christ_n in_o wholesome_a sound_a word_n and_o herein_o his_o own_o word_n if_o not_o corrupt_v and_o heretical_a for_o as_o one_o well_o observe_v that_o such_o doctrine_n as_o this_o be_v the_o great_a poison_n that_o ever_o the_o father_n of_o lie_n pour_v into_o the_o heart_n of_o sinner_n to_o make_v people_n think_v that_o sprinkle_v a_o little_a water_n on_o the_o face_n can_v regenerate_v take_v away_o sin_n and_o save_v the_o soul_n and_o 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baptism_n the_o profession_n whereof_o the_o minister_n must_v
of_o their_o own_o party_n surety_n magd._n against_o surety_n the_o magdeburg_n century_n 1._o p._n 497._o do_v tell_v we_o that_o godfathers_n or_o fidejussor_n for_o infant_n or_o other_o they_o find_v nothing_o of_o in_o the_o scripture_n that_o in_o the_o second_o of_o the_o act_n they_o offer_v themselves_o to_o baptism_n &_o that_o it_o will_v be_v very_o ridiculous_a to_o think_v the_o apostle_n will_v baptise_v none_o without_o surety_n and_o doctor_n tayler_n pag._n 84._o i_o know_v say_v he_o reason_n dr._n tailor_n against_o surety_n and_o his_o reason_n god_n may_v if_o he_o will_v have_v appoint_v godfathers_n to_o give_v answer_n in_o the_o behalf_n of_o child_n and_o to_o be_v fidejussor_n for_o they_o but_o we_o can_v find_v any_o authority_n or_o ground_n that_o he_o have_v and_o if_o he_o have_v that_o it_o be_v to_o be_v suppose_v he_o will_v have_v give_v they_o commission_n to_o have_v transact_v the_o solemnity_n with_o better_a circumstance_n and_o have_v give_v 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man_n that_o be_v erroneous_a in_o one_o thing_n mâ—y_v be_v orthodox_n enough_o in_o another_o the_o business_n be_v whether_o as_o to_o matter_n of_o fact_n he_o speak_v these_o thing_n against_o infant_n baptism_n and_o that_o be_v not_o deny_v and_o in_o the_o next_o place_n whether_o he_o speak_v not_o reason_n and_o truth_n in_o that_o his_o testimony_n which_o in_o the_o next_o place_n we_o shall_v examine_v therefore_o second_o as_o to_o the_o weakness_n of_o his_o argument_n which_o he_o render_v so_o contemptible_a and_o ridiculous_a and_o guilty_a of_o so_o much_o dotage_n i_o make_v the_o follow_v particular_a reply_n to_o each_o exception_n viz._n first_o as_o to_o his_o first_o argument_n 19.14_o 1._o he_o abuse_v not_o the_o text_n mat._n 19.14_o from_o the_o mistake_a scripture_n he_o say_v he_o abuse_v the_o text_n by_o his_o paraphrase_n but_o second_o thought_n will_v i_o presume_v tell_v he_o it_o
dixit_fw-la only_o i_o shall_v give_v they_o brief_o to_o you_o with_o what_o i_o have_v since_o meet_v with_o to_o confirm_v the_o same_o which_o be_v as_o follow_v viz._n first_o from_o what_o be_v mention_v of_o donatus_n himself_o himself_o donatus_n himself_o who_o as_o sebastian_n frank_n in_o his_o chronicle_n say_v do_v teach_v that_o no_o infant_n shall_v be_v baptize_v but_o only_o those_o that_o believe_v and_o desire_v it_o p._n 222._o viz._n donatist_n his_o followersr_n viz._n second_o from_o what_o we_o find_v mention_v of_o his_o follower_n viz._n cresconius_n cresconius_n 1._o cresconius_n who_o do_v oppose_v austin_n in_o that_o point_n as_o say_v jacob_n mern_v p._n 230_o who_o be_v a_o donatist_n as_o say_v the_o magdeb._n cent._n 5._o p._n 631._o fulgentius_n fulgentius_n 2._o fulgentius_n another_o learned_a donatist_n as_o the_o magdeb._n tell_v we_o cent._n 5._o p._n 631._o do_v deny_v infant_n baptism_n and_o assert_v only_o that_o baptism_n that_o be_v after_o 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catheri_n viz._n the_o waldenses_n then_o do_v in_o that_o point_n conform_v to_o the_o old_a catheri_n the_o donatist_n and_o novation_n p._n 224._o thomas_n walden_n walden_n tho._n walden_n that_o write_v against_o wickliff_n in_o henry_n the_o four_o time_n tell_v we_o that_o vincentius_n victor_n with_o who_o austin_n contend_v do_v deny_v baptism_n to_o little_a one_o de_fw-fr sacram._n tit._n 5._o ch_n 53._o fol._n 118._o bullinger_n osiandeâ—_n fuller_n &_o bullinger_n five_o our_o latter_a writer_n do_v also_o agree_v herein_o that_o the_o donatist_n and_o modern_a anabaptist_n be_v all_o one_o so_o say_v osiander_n cent._n 16._o p._n 176._o and_o fuller_n in_o his_o eccles_n histor_n lib._n 5._o pag._n 229._o and_o bullinger_n lib._n 5._o sol_fw-la 216_o 222._o of_o baptism_n spanhemius_fw-la spanhem_n spanhem_n also_o say_v that_o the_o donanist_n deny_v infant_n baptism_n as_o appear_v say_v he_o austin_n 6._o book_n against_o the_o donatist_n c._n 23_o 24_o 25._o spanh_o 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