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A27403 An ansvver to John Gilpin's book, published in his name, and subscribed by the priest of Kendal and an answer to an other false slaunder, as concerning buggery, which he and they slander the Quakers with, which was denyed before any such thing was acted : also, another slander which is cast upon them who are scornfully called Quakers ... / from them who are called Quakers by the scorners. Benson, Gervase, d. 1679. 1655 (1655) Wing B1899; ESTC R35747 11,382 17

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AN ANSVVER TO John Gilpin's Book Published in his name and Subscribed by the Priest of Kendal AND An ANSWER to an other false slaunder as concerning Buggery which he and they slander the Quakers with which was denyed before any such thing was acted ALSO Another slander which is cast upon them who are scornfully called Quakers By one Cotten Cosland of Stockworth who hanged himself who was seen and denied and was told that he was Iudas two years before or there abouts in Gainsborough in one Woolsey's house and there that man which hanged himself brought in false witnes against them called Quakers and both he and his witness was denied And the thing in which they would cleare Iohn Gilpin of as of drunkenness denyed and he proved and manifest to be such a one as was declared of him before And this do they fetch up which was two or three years ago to slaunder them that be in the Truth And also something in Answer to Milners Prophecies From them who are called Quakers by the scorners LONDON Printed for Giles Calvert at the Black-Spread-Eagle at the West-end of Pauls 1655. REader thou may'st take notice of the diligence of the Children of darkness who as our blessed Saviour Iesus Christ hath said are wiser in their generation then the Children of light and especially of Thomas Walker Priest and John Myriel Schoolmaster who were chief actors in contriving and publishing the first Book put forth in Gilpins name who being grieved to see the truth spread over their lyes and the light to comprehend their darkness have by themselves and their Emissaries in two or three years time gathered up in four Counties viz Cumberland Westmerland Lancashire and Yorkshire in which Counties there are many hundreds of the people called Quakers four persons that have been found faulty though none of them save Milner was ever owned as friends in the light much less in the life a good testimony for that people Which had Thomas Walker been as diligent to have observed the failings and wilful practices of his own flock he might to my knowledg have made a large Catalogue but my desire is not to justifie the people called Quakers by ripping up of others sores for I know the Lord God of Heaven and Earth is with them and the shout of a King is among them and according to this time it shall be said of them what hath God wrought and blessed is he that blesseth them and cursed is he that curseth them and their godly conversation shall and hath put to silence the mouths of many their adversaries amongst whom they live but in the light I see that wrath is cruel and anger is outragious but who is able to stand before envy and that the wickedness of the wicked shall slay his own soul And therefore Thomas Walker cease from thy blasphemies against the light lost he who is the Father of lights and dwells in the light shut thee up in utter darkness and give thee thy portion amongst them who hated the light whose deeds were evil as thine are who not only would cover Gilpins drunkeness but plead for his other sins making a mook at sin who calls him civil whom thou doest not deny but was and is drunk with sin but also religious and sutable to the Gospel of Jesus Christ No marvel therefore that thou who attestest such things under thy hand questions thy own credit and therefore procures others to certifie for thee who if it would have stood with their credits could have certified more of John Gilpin and his course of life then thou or thy friend Myriel who knew little of John Gilpin and his conversation till thou declared thy self openly an enemy of the light and all the Children of the light by thee in scorn called Quakers which how many of them have been imprisoned for thee and by thy means is well known to many in Kendal whereof Thomas Sands and the rest that have certified for thee is not altogether ignorant to whom John Gilpin and his conversation for many years past and before thou or thy friend Myriel knew Kendal was well known whose silence in the thing is more testimony against John Gilpin than thy rash forwardness can gain credit for him whose cred't cannot stand for clear testimony without others certifying what they believe of thee which is as little as they can certifie while they own thee for their Minister if they should certifie aany thing at all but fools loves to be medling And as for the testimony of Thomas Craister Cuth Studholme and Thomas Turner who say They dare not plead for iniquity and yet have taken upon them to make null the testimony of Robert Wharton and others who were eye witnesses of his drunkenness in Kendal when they were off Carlile above thirty miles distant let the wise judg And who are not ashamed to certefie a plain untruth and yet say they dare not plead for sin saying That John Gilpin hath been indeed a man as they will witness that knew him formerly not only vertuously inc●ined but also of a very tender conscience insomuch that to affirm the contrary there can be nothing more false these be their words Though I take no delight to meddle with others conditions nor to discover others nakedness at such a distance yet for the Truths sake and that the simple may not be deceived with lyes nor men full of talk be justified I give this testimony of John Gilpin being one who formerly knew him and his education living in the same Town of Kendal with him for about sixteen years and one that wished him well at least not only in reference to his own particular but also to his deceased mother who wilst she lived was one in profession with me that his conversation was neither as became the Gospel nor a sober civil man And if any of you subscribers or John Gilpin himself desire me to set down the particulars wherein let him send his desires under his hand to him who is known to John Gilpin and all or most of you subscribers by the name of Gervase Benson An Answer to John Gilpins Book TO thee Oh John Gilpin and all the subscribers of thy booke whose folly in it is made manifest out of you which books thou you subscribers have directed to the world they are the best to receive it and believe it for the world loves their own and will receive their own which lies in wickedness where the lying wonders is and such are given over to believe lies for to the Children of light his book is not directed but to the world and the world receives it which hate Christ and all the Children of light as Iohn saith which light brings to see all Gilpins signes and lying wonders his butter-flies and his Swallowes and his filthy Dreame sand all his running up and down and all his imitations and crosses and all his musick which must be turned into howling and
sorrow and wayling and gnashing of teeth which is denied by all the Children of light The man of sin hath exalted himself above all this is called God or that is worshiped so that he as God fits in the Temple of God that he might be revealed in his due time whose coming is even after the coming of Satan with all power and lying wonders and with all deceiveableness of unrighteousness in him and them that perish because that they and he did not receive the love of the truth that they might be saved for this cause hath God gi●en him and them up to strong delusions that they should believe lies that they all might be damned together who believe not the truth but take pleasure in unrighteou●ness for to the world hath Iohn Gilpin and the rest of the sub●cribers directed their book they are of the world and the world heareth them therefore speak they to the world and the world heareth them and the whole world lyeth in wickedness they who are Children of light are not of the world we which are in the light are of God and he that knoweth God heareth us he that is not of God heareth not us hereby we know the Spirit of truth and the Spirit of error So marvell not my brethren if the world hate you and persecute you as many of the subscribers to Iohn Gilpins book hath done persecuted many imprisoned many for we know we have passed from death to life because we love the bretheren but he that loveth not his brother abideth in the death and who so hateth his brother is a murderer and hath not eternall life abiding in him so ye Children of light who see Iohn Gilpin and his subscribers where the man of sin is re●ealed the Son of perdition comprehended all you are with the light which is your condemnation remember in your life-time you are warned and you are in secret read this now bretheren in the light be not ye so soon shaken in your minds neither by his books nor words who hath given heed to fables swerved from the truth and turned aside and so now directs his book to his own who heareth and receiveth it He that hath an eare let him heare and understand he that hath an eye for over to Satan is he turned and delivered and so with the wicked judged who are both with the light condemned which from his lies and fables the Children of light are escaped are not they of the world that do persecut the Children of light are not they of the world that are given over to beleive lies are not they of the world that heareth the world are not they of the world that sends their writing to the world and doth the world heare the Saints and doth not the world love her own and did not ever the world hate the Children of light was Iohn Gilpin come to that power that made the Devills to tremble and you who worship the beast whom all the world wonders after to blaspheme and doth the beast blasphem the power of God yea or nay was that the power of God that made the Devills to tremble in Iohn Gilpin yea or nay Answer else confess in your silence guilty and let your mouths be stopped for ever is it the power of God that makes the Devills to tremble and doth not the world call this the power of the Devil and so abuse the power of God nay or yea Having seen a book wherein the life and conversation of Iohn Gilpin by severall hands certified that Iohn Gilpin hath ever walked as becomes the Gospel I have knowne him this 12 or 14. yeares and this I can say and lie not he was never owned in the least of any that had a profession but was of the sort which ran to all excess of riot a common Drunkard a Cocker a Gamster as some of those is which hath given testimony of his Gospel-conversation but if this be their Gospel conversation it with the light of Christ is denied and in judgment neither it nor they can stand but with the light is to be condemned and with the Children of the light to be denied and seene to be out of the Gospel It is not the boasting Spirit that lodgeth in the enemies of God that can hurt the truth which casteth out floods of water to destroy the truth for in safetie is it kept neither those high swelling words can hide him from the wrath of God that is revealed to be powred forth upon all unrighteousness and know thou lier that my testimony is true and shall stand and this I declare to all in the presence of him that knoweth that I lie not that as I was passing down the high street in Kendall betwixt the place called the new Brigging and the lower Wel John Gilpin was passing on the street in that place I sae him drunk but they being so large in their exposition of things they may do the like of his drunkenness these are the signes which I shall declare which will be a sufficient testimony that he was drunk first that he reeled to and fro secondly turning to a side of the street standing talking to a woman was not able to stand without wandering Thirdly his face inflamed scarse able to look with his eye the woman speaking to him but he could not speak plain and the woman prayed God to bless him Thou sayest that 's true that information was given in against him but not on oath Reader take notice that nothing will pass currant with them unless it hath the stamp of an oath see here they are not in the doctrin of Christ that would have men to sweares but out of the light they are shut and with the light is to be damned And as for his friends I charge them with alie they never came to me and told me any such thing as that it was a gross forgery neither did I give them any such answer as that he was drunk with sin though it was his sin to be drunk so let all that nameth the Name of the Lord depart from iniquity the light mind that brings into purity so thou mayest stand in thy integrity so wilt thou see the beast and the false prophet and their lying wonders and with the light of Christ they will be condemned Robert Wharton I having occasion into the fields upon my comming back over the neither brigg I meet with Iohn Gilpin and I set my eyes upon him and I understood the man was drunk immediatly his Wife comming out of his own house she desired him to go in and he refused and she began to strugle with him and so with much to doe she got him in and as for what he was formerly I well know he was a common Drunkard a Cocker a Gamster and with such like actions and practices brought his Wife and Children to penury and want Roger Baccus And for the heads and cheefest of your witnesses which here