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A67839 The foxonian Quakers dunces lyars and slanderers, proved out of George Fox's journal, and other scriblers; particularly B. C. his Quakers no apostates, or the hammerer defeated: amanuensis, as is said, to G.C. (as he sometime wrote himself) Gulielmus Calamus, alias, William Penn. Also a reply to W.C. (a church-man, the Quakers advocate) his Trepidantium malleus intrepidanter malleatus, &c. By Trepidantium Malleus. Trepidantium Malleus. 1697 (1697) Wing Y80; ESTC R218927 36,337 100

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Adam before be fell the Creation was opened to me I was at a stand whether I should practice Phisick for the good of Mankind seeing the natures and vertues of the Creatures were so opened to me Wonderful Depths were opened to me beyond what words can declare p. 10. All I meet with cannot bear mans coning to Adam's state before be fell Reader Tremble at the next Blasphemy How then can they bear to hear of man's coming to the measure of the fulness of Christ which he before said be did Observe Reader what Nonsense and Impertinencies are in these Openings I doubt not Drunkenness and Swearing are no sins in comparison of such belying of God Whoever said It was enough to go Oxford to be made a Minister No many there and that come from thence are too Ignorant to be such I knew one there a good Schollar that Preacht that could not tell me whose Wife Sarah was how many Tribes there were I knew another who when he preacht on 1 Eccles 2 began thus Vanity at the first was but a little imp but now it is grown to such an exuberant Whale that it can swallow three Jonas's at a morsal c. I have heard of one in Exon Colledge coming down late to dine in the Hall was asked the reason Oh said he I was reading the pleasantest story that ever I read in my Life if it be true What story said they then he began to tell the story of Joseph and his Brethren Now Friend George it is opened to me that it is not enough for a man to be brought up in a Shoomakers-shop to be made a Minister The Lord would teach them c. Some kept to this and cared not for any mans teaching but after all George sets up for a Teacher himself contrary to his first sayings when You need not that any man teach you Is none of the Hereticks he had Detected for John at that time taught them by his Epistle George was Adam's equal for Perfection and what Christs too yet the aforenamed Goldney a famous or rather infamous Quaker among other notorious untruths by him and Wyat denyed That any Qua●ers beld Perfection no not George Fox himself for I knew him said he then run on Thou art a Lyar Report and we will Report Report and we will Report Had George been a Physician none had Cur'd half so many as he had kill'd why had he not acquainted Physicians of those Vertues and Operations of the Creatures Opened to him for the good of Mankind No no the Cheat had then soon been discovered How did Mr. Penn and other Friends like the Pudding that George put Herbs into c. when they were almost choakt with eating it Truly I believe they had rather have been at a Friends Spiritual Supper at Bristol who invited several all sat an hour or more at the Table none were helpt nor did Eat the meat carried away Friends I invited you to a Spiritual Supper which made some Quakers-joqne when one said Truly he sound great refreshment there I could prove all if they dared to face me On goes George The Lord said to me go to such a Steeple-house and testify against that Ido'l and the Worshippers there I cured a distracted Woman Many were cured of Infirmities and Devils were cast out One hearing a Priest in a Steeple-house the word of the Lord came to him dost thou not know my Servant is in Prison so he came to me One said of me there was never such a Plant bred in England O Pharisaical Vain-glorying I was moved of the Lord to put of my Shoos and to go through the City of Litchfield and cry Wo to the bloody City of Litchfield I saw in the street a pool of blood and my feet were warm I knew not what it was but I was told in Dioclesian's time Thousands of Christians were there Martyr'd so I was to go without any shoos in their blood Who can believe this Fable One said to a Justice of Peace an Angel came in at Beverly Church It was said George Observe the trick he soon got in and went out It was strange to see a man come in without a Band. Bands and Hatbands were once condemned by the Infallible Spirit as well as Lace and Ribonds I cryed preach freely Did George do so People were moved by my Groans Did he not groan on purpose I saw a Profession without a possession See how proud the Fool was of a common Gingle going up and down among Illetirate Countrey People When they saw the man with leathern Breaches come in the Priests would be gone Terror surprized the Hippocrites Some of them would say The Hireling fleeth but forgot it was when the Wolf cometh the Quaker I had a Vision of a Bear and two Mastiffs that should pass by me and do me no barm which was the Constable So may we call every idle dream a Vision from the Lord. Meat was set before me as I was about to Eat the word of the Lord came to me saying Eat not the bread of him that hath an evil eye that is a thought or motion arose Immediately I arose from the Table and eat nothing c. Every Whim was at first a word from the Lord till they mistook Places Persons and Things and then Folly to all men His Miracles were no more real than Popish ones of the Rood of Grace Christs Blood the blood of a Duck in a vial c. when he tells of Outward Ordinances know Reader the design of this Book is a Lye in this thing We affirm That as Food or Phisick lookt on handled tasted neither kill hunger nor cure pains so the bare talking or knowing of Scripture will not do without a deep impression on the heart yet the work of God lies with the head for knowledge as well as with the Heart for Grace Must Men Experience Scripture and know it after They were of old commanded to teach their Children the Law Christ said How readest thou None said Theeves Theeves I thought to have gone on to George's Epistles full of Blasphemy and Falshood but I grow weary of such stuff and I suppose so doth the Reader too After this Impostor and False Prophet condemned teaching by Man but by the Light he becomes a Teacher himself after he disown'd all Courts himself The Light was Sufficient He pretends a word from the Lord to set up such Assemblies by them was the Light tryed thousands of Quakers seeing this ●are-fac'd Iniquity hated him for his Hipocrisie The Author of the Spirit of the Hat cries out O Popery O Prelacy O Presbytery This was the thing we condemned in them Mr. Rogers wrote smartly against them and tells you what a bag of Iniquity Friend George was Whereas George call'd Ministers False Prophets they were strictly neither false Prophets nor true ones they were True Teachers but pretended not to Prophesie George Fox in another book I have seen calls the Scripture and
for fear of Popery and Slavery 2. Then ●ould 〈…〉 be no Papist if he believed it Unlawful to Persecute Men for Conscience in the common Acceptation of the Words then had the Pope Er●ed and a Council and that in no small matter but alas K. James knew Prose ution of men for Heresic was ro Persecution for Conscience besides an Peroneous Conscience was no Conscience Quit non est scientia c. 3 The Addressers would say privately All was but a Trick of K. James No wonder he Laughed at them when they were gon and PVAW'd c. I have been every where of late years Plagued about those Scand●lous Addresses Some would call a Second Judas a Second Cyrus and the Destroyer of their Countrey the Repairer of their Breaches Well done B. C. to call them that did it to Repentance I have called on them all little enough Now Friend C. let me ask thee a few Questions Was it not shameful to censure me and another man for not putting our names to our Books and thou never put thy name to thine I gave it out to all I was the Author May I not debate the matter with Jews Mahometans and others and yet be conclusive in the Doctrine of Christianity Why Child what ails thy Noddle Is it proper to censure me for being Comical after I gave my reasons and they not considered p. 6. Is it true W. Penn Expounded on Mat. 18.17 Tell the Church a sense denyed in one place confirmed in another to serve a Turn I see there was a little Mistake in putting the names of the Book could not so great a Lyer as thou that talks of my being once in a maed-house that deniest Quakers Bow Couldst not thou have said Some Enemy or the Printer or others put in those Words or that some Letters accidentally jumpt together and make these unhappy Sentences Where is Inspitation now when he was lately told some Quakers deny any Body of Christ in heaven c. He said they were Ignorant tho Sincere What friend William is the Light and Infallible Spirit come to this Did I say in my Book The Quakers were more humble than others c. Away thou shameless Man What wilt thou saynext Or that The Quakers were more Just than others No I did not so wrong them Did I not give a true account of Barclay about the Light p. 79. Look once again May not Perfectionists long continuing so at last reform and so God be merciful to them in their Conversion be a proper Petition I am not used to deal with such silly Arguers Suppose I should plead the cause of him that wrote the story of Henry Windor let it not displease seeing he was joyn'd with me who he is I know not He is said to be worse then Mad worse then the Hammerer why the two Quakers that came to Henry Winder and his Wife from the Lord that they had Murthered a Child and must dye the Spirit would appear in the Court They were Meiancholly or Mad says B. C. 1. They were owned by the Quakers before in and after to their Death 2. This Madness was not discern'd by the Justice or Judge or Quakers or others but the Quakers clos'd in with them 3. If any thing falls out as they say They be the Lords Prophets if not they were then mad Was Sollomon Eccles Mad when he Prophesied falsly to John Story not when he prophesied of the burning of London of which Friends took no more notice then the Men of the World and so never mov'd their Goods saying It was a Delusion Was W. Penn Mad when he prophesied against Thomas Hicks For the story in Bristel of a Quaker that said Thus saith the Lord give the man his Rope again it is denied so is every thing else but I pray Why not as well as when G. Fox was about to Eat The word of the Lord came unto him saying Eat not as before Now B. C. to humble thee if it may be for thy Folly and Falshood I will suppose I should apply my self to thee in the same Language thou hast done to me and with the like Falshood What wouldst thou say of me what many now do and many more will of thee Suppose I should besprinkle thee with some of thy Oratory to me and another Th●● impostor in thy Colours fit for Box or Bedlam in thy south thou wert burnt in the band at Bristol for a Highway-man yea thou wert Pillored and thy Ears were cropt off for Sedition Thou refusest to Preach to the Quakers under Five Hundred a Year None of my Friends in Bristol ever deserted St. James's Back c. in the last Persecution and I will prove it for it is well known John Weeks was committed to Prison therefore neither he George Founs Samuel Winney nor I did ever refuse to walk up and down the City on week days or to Preach in our Publick Places to a thousand at a time Lords Days O thou Impudent Man Mad-man c. Thou didst prove the Vnlawfulness of Bowls and Nine-pins from Mat. 1.2 And Abraham begat Isaac and Isaac begat Jacob and Jacob begat Judas and his Brethren He must set up for the trade of Lying that doth it more than thou every lease is full of Nonsense None have so much the command of the Peoples Purses as the She Speakers yet to avoid Reflections as much as may be I have thus spoken to thee c. But there is no end of this should I thus do might I not fear as Cain you had as good cut off a man's arm or leg as thus desame him VVell one consideration is comfortable a Quakers word is no Slander You have been known to be Notorious Lyars in your highest Pretences your greatest Speakers I had almost forgotten to tell the Reader that B. C. in the name of Friends says As Scripture contain the Word and Command of God to us so they are the word of God c. No more need to be said your cause is gone I therefore declare my work lies with Mr. Penn to him were my Questions sent and seeing he cannot answer and therefore wisely attempts it not I intend no more to answer such scriblers as B. C. I leave you with St. Paul's words Gal. 1.6 8 9. I marvel you are so soon removed to another Gospel but though we or an Angel from Heaven Preach any other Gospel unto you then which we have Preached unto you let him be Accursed as we said before so say I now again if any man Preach any other Gospel unto you then that ye have received let him be Accursed Which words have been wisely and seriously used by some Ministers when Quakers have come from far to them to deliver a Message forsooth from the Lord against the Outward Word and Outward Christ and Outward Baptism and Outward Supper Now for the Man of Wit Civility and Learning the Author of Trepidantium Malleus Intrepidanter Malleatus Or the
I pray let him attempt First to come in We do not see he is in such hast you say You will not so casily take Members I grant according to your good old Constitution you should not We might be agreed about Communicants but according to the practise of some Innovators this Body hath for scores of years lost its Purgative Faculty and therefore is so unhealthy and giddy by keeping in those Dregs that should be thrown out you now take and keep Atheists Adult●●●rs Swearers Ignorant Persons no●● 〈◊〉 visibly such thus is its Discipline corrupted as well as Doctrine for its Doctrine it is one of the best Churches upon Earth You ask Why leave we the Church of England I affirm we cannot find it you have left it as I have proved in my Reprim●●● clearly fully accordantly which you reply nothing too and I love not Eandem Cantilenam Well The Presbyterians Persecuted in New England say you Whom Blasphemers of Christ Cursers of Magistrates in the Streets False Prophets c. Obj. In Scotland now What such as were found in Popish Cabals that say Their Interest and Religion is concern'd in the bringing in of K. James again But your Church early Persecuted B. Hooper for not wearing a Surplice who honestly condemas all Symbolical Humane Ceremonies in the worship of God in 〈◊〉 Preface to his Savory Exposition on the prophesie of Jonah Fox that Glorious Martyrologer was a Non Con Famous Mr C●●●wright and many more such must be involv'd in trouble for a few Popish Tri●●●ets Were your New England 〈…〉 Saints such 〈◊〉 these Are your now Martyrs taken up and sent to Goal for being in a Corporation or within 5 miles of it Ruin'd for not coming to their Communion c. It is not the Suffering but the Cause that makes the Martyr for when Christ was crucified two Theeves were crucified with him Did ever any Presbyterian persecute as your Brethren Who countenanced Sham Plots By whom was Stephen Colledge Murthered Who condemaed him and rejoyced at his death I speak the more freely of him because I was with him often after his Sentence and before his Execution Who believes he came to Oxon with a design to seiz the King What be and be alone It is well known what the Earl of Anglesey said Could my Lord Howard after his Pardon and Discovery of another Plot confirm this No he knew nothing of the Shaftsburian Plot Mr Colledge with a shower of Tears solemnly protested to me when I beg'd his silence if in the least guilty I never expect mercy from God if I was guilty or know any man to be so that way Such Sham Plots put some on real ones which indeed were not successful as your Plot was against James the Second I dare say you cannot believe it say what you will That the Presbyterians rail'd at much at the Quakers as the Quakers at them Neither can you think the Lords Prayer and Ten Commandments turn'd into verse by me so bad as you say Pray read how your Church hath done the Lords Prayer at the end of the Psalms approv'd to be Sung if mine be Vncouth Rhime Doggrel Prophaning of Scripture yours much more so I challenge any man to take the substance and words of the Ten Commandments more exact in one stave or eight lines others approve and more than so but you will not any thing that is mine and for that reason because mine I suppose some in Be●lam have talk'd better then you or some others yet out of it argued more subtilty I have heard of Mr Widdows famous for a Tract of Natural Philosophy that being heard to make a great noise in such a place some came to him and askt him what it meant The Devil said he hath appeared to me and told me be could prove I could not be saved I told him be was a Lyar from the beginning and would be so to the end The Devil began Syllogistivally He whose name is not written in the book of Life cannot be saved but thy name is not written in the book of Life Ergo thou carst not be saved I told him said he my name was written in the book of Life and therefore I denyed the minor so the Devil went on The Scriptures is the book of Life but thy name is not written in the Scriptures Ergo thy name is not written in the book of Life I denyed said he the minor again and told him my name was written in the Scripture he asked me where I told him Honour them that are Widdows indeed there is my name Widdows so I lasted the Devil and he is gone Were you in such an Academy or amongst such Collegiates as you phrase it perhaps you might hear things more Ingenious with your Ravings than now we do How is it you have not a word to savour the Quakers Prophesies Is it because you have such in your Church Arise ap Even that mad blasphemous Prophet Was it before the VVars that a Parson prayed Confound all the Enemies of thy Clearch and People a violent cough took him when over he thought he was in that part of the Pulpit Prayer for the Prelates and so went on By what Names or Titles soever they be Dignified whether the Most Reverend the Arch-Bishops the Right Reverend the Bishops and all inferiour Priests and Deatons You a Defender of the Church of England and take no notice of the Cassandrian Articles Non Resistance Bowing to the High Altar not indeed Book of Sports now thank our Meetings Desire some one to answer for you seeing you cannot for your self Now Sir you would let the world know you have read more then Cato's Verses perhaps the Sentences under for you bring us Noble Apotheigems In ipso limine titubare outinosunt est Nullum reprebenderis vitii cujus ipse queas reprebendi Faedares invidia est et Authori interdum perniciosa Ex me disces quidingenui homines serre non possunt O rare discoveries such as a Parson said Amor res est bona as St. Austin saith Perhaps you would convince me that you have yet your Grammar by you but all will not do Insipientes est discere non putarem c. Well Eris mihi magnus Apollo is right De mortuis nil nisi bonum and all that follows it was answer'd in my Vindic●ae and Reprimand too therefore I shall not answer now Only Are not those you Revile every 30th of January Dead VVas not Dr. Owen Dead who never swore to Richard Cromwel as Oliver his son lately assured me If I must I will produce the testimony of Dr Goodwin Mr Jenkins about Evangelista Quintus and also of Mr Sydrack Symson Dr Sanderson and many others whose little finger was thicker than my Loyns We are better reconcil'd than you think for except a few men that talk as you write You tell me of one that said of me I was fit for Bedlam but it was as the Quakers say Good
large Folio also They the Quakers can tell who are are Saints who are Devils who Apostates without speaking a word He denies p. 99. That Christ has a Humane Body or a Humane Soul Asserts plainly That the Soul of man is a part of God that it came from him and goes to him again p. 272. and p. 99. That Christ is not distinguisht from the Father if as Penn pleads he meant Separate then George though Inspired was ignorant of words and in the name of the Lord condemned them that rightly used them You are says he p. 114. conceived in sin David did not say You are but I was Profoundly answered His answer to Dr. Owen's Chatechism is fit only for Laughter He answers John Gilpin's Book a book worth reading of Quakers bewitch That he was Drunk after he left the Quakers and a Warrant was out for him the usual Answer Page 244. The Immortal Seed are the Saints and then they are not Dust and Ashes Abraham was so In his Battle-door we have a large book about Thou and You what it is in Latin Greek Hebrew Syriack Samaritan Dutch German French all Languages to me saith he is dust who was before all Languages were O Blasphemy the whole of this Book is a Cheat this Fool understood not English much less what he wrote of which was anothers words He could write Hebrew Letters and many were hung up in Friends Houses to make them believe he did all by Revelation an Ungodly Cheat. I shall only propose to the Quakers a few Questions 1. Seeing the Papists pretend to Infallibility Miracles and Prophesies and the Muggletonians too why should you be credited more than they Had any one man of you the gift of Tongues George Fox himself when he was sent abroad when in America he sent for one Emperor and two Kings to Preach to them they understood not his English he was a barbarian to those barbarians if you say the Testimony was inward I pray be sure keep it there trouble not us with it 2. Can any Atheist or Papist speak worse of the Holy Scriptures than you It is well known Sam. Fisher said They were not capable of being but a Lesbian Rule a nose of wax and askt this question How could any on be Infallible that they were not a cunning devised sable I have not seen his works in Folio these many years but I remember such playing on this subject and that in verse too as is not fit to be named 3. How abominable is it in Disputations and Discourse to use words Janus like with two faces or a double sence one to quiet an Objecter another to satisfie Friends privately You are good at Hocus Pocus the old phrase from the Papists Hoc est Corpus turning a Wafer into a Body yet you will call a man Lyar if he repeat your sense if not exact words should you say a Shilling and I repeat it 12 pence if to se●●e ● turn you would say you never said so How often do Friends answer to what is not asked and evade what is You sometime ask us What Scripture for Absolute and Relative yet use such words your selves 4. How much are you unlike the People you were Muggleton long since cursed you That your Visions and Revelations should fail Blessed said you of old for your Quakings are they that tremble at my Word yet some said The Devil ' trembled in them What is he blessed then Now you tell us That as when a man taketh Physick he is much disordered in his Body till his distemper be gone so you till sin was purged out What have none that turn Quakers for almost forty year past any sin in them to be purged out as well as the first Quakers Nothing was more common at first then this Scripture They shall not teach every man his Neighbour saying know the Lord for they shall all know me from the greatest to the least yet G. Fox taught them every where and it hath been often said in Meetings Friends you are to take notice William Penn will be here next First Day But how could they tell on their Principle whether he should be moved to speak to them I close this part of my Work with the words of Mr. Rogers a Bristol Quaker he wrote a Poem call'd A Scourge for George Waitehead an Apostate Quaker in the close of which he hath these words Let George Fox and they that uphold him Remember 't was Jereboam that caus'd Israel to sin and as his name was branded to Posterity so shall thei●s 〈◊〉 We cannot own them to be Head and Law-givers their Church Government Orders Canons Ecclesiastical are become a Reproach Taunt By-word in the Nation as a just recompence of their Pride Apostacy and deep Hipocrisie The QUAKERS No Apostates Or the Hammerer Defeated c. Examin'd MY Learning is talk'd of by this Man to make Trophies for his Victory yet it seems my Arguments are light If by light said one in the like case you mean clear I wonder you cannot see them if by light you mean trivial I wonder you cannot answer them I thought I had in my first Book so smitten the Quakers that I need not to have smitten them a second time Because Repetitions are tedious especially of Impertinencies I shall not trouble you with many of his words neither shall I actum agere of what is my own I see I have so broken their Teeth that they cannot bite though they can bark This Man of impotent malice having lost his reason falls a Raving and Lying prodigiously beyond all Men as shall be proved I had taken no notice of him nor W. C. the Church-man had it not been for my foregoing work being the seeblest Adversaries I ever had Reader know for the veneration this man and some few more seem to pretend to for the Scripture it is nothing they deny it to be the word of God any more than their own Books which are Writings of Truth Are they good subjects that deny King William to be Lawful King of England because they grant him lawful Prince of Orange As vast a difference is there between the light of Nature and that of Scripture as between the light of a Glow-worm and the light of the Moon in the Night time I brought a writ of Error against the Quakers and see how frantick they grow their Errors are so many that if one should ask a Quaker What is thy Name instead of the blasphemous answer of one my name is I am he might reply in the words of the Demonaick in the Gospel to Jesus Legion for we are many ask their Principles one tells you one thing another another and all from the same Infallible Spirit nay the same man shall transform himself into several shapes they cannot stand before Scripture or Reason when the Sun appears the night of Bats and Owls is come I profess my self to be ashamed to meddle with this Accuser who is so
Infamous for Lying that all the world can confute him The Papists in their Casulstical Writing have asserted It was lawful for a Priest if suspected and taken to say or swear it before a Justice of Peace or a Judge Quest Are you a Priest Answ No that is of Bacchus or any Pagan God Quest Did you ever read Mass Answ No that is not with a design to tell you of it c They can deny at the place of Execution any Treason or Murther and say they are as innocent as the Child to Night born Why because forfooth they have been since absolv'd nay if occasion be that they dyè Protestants too that is they protest again the rieresies of the times It was well said of Mr. Mead the true English-man in the late Reign to his Immortal Honour when Sir D. C. told him of the Quakers Knwery about five years since in Brislot in cheating the King a piece of Roguery too long to relate the men chosen as the best of them by his Majesty's order to decide the matter were so vile that he said thou hast them upon the hip spare not a man of them B. C. i● a Foxonian Quaker Ideal with him as such not a separate Quaker these roundly answered to Dr. Lancasters Questions Bp. of Londons Ciraplain about Christ c. when the Foxonians did it sophistically the Separate ones answer'd well to alltl equestions from Philadelphia in Pensilvania when the Foxonian ones there refused to do it they swallow all that Fox once said and now Penn without chewing To Revile and Curie is Common Oh! what puputridstinking words come from the mouths of the pretenders to Pure Breathings No doubt when some of the Quakers Fellow-Heathen in America hear their hard character of the best Ministers with us they think we are like Canabals or like Infernal Fiends Some when they drank of the old doctrine of Christianity desired not their new 5 Luke 39. but said as he of the wine The Old is better Deism is now a thriving weed in England and Quakerisin is of kin to it The Deist observe and Quakers are very friendly one to another how writes Mr. Nor is of Love to God as Creator Benefactor Why not Redeemer I have been ask'd the question Is be a Deist I do not say he is this is he that hath written so favourably of the Quakers to his perpetual shame I am informed the Quakers Preach more a crucified Christ within a year or two then ever they have done this thirty year Well G. Keith and other Reformed Quakers have taught them to speak well but have they yet taught them to think or believe well They say no All but meer Tricks Ignoramus Whitehead now Preacheth Christs Body is in Heaven that was once in the Grave Well if you be Inspired Persons now you were Impostors once Now for some of B. C's Assertions the naming of which is enough or more than enough for any that have read my Quakers Impostors or Apoststes proved from their Avowed Principles and contrary Practises he saith That he found not Truth or Serse till be came ro p 62. of that Book That the Bristol Quakers never left their meeting in the last Persecution unless when Sick c. not Lawrence Steel or others That the Quakers generally bow not to men c. That George Whitehead and William Penn did ever hear their open Testimoney that in my bro● I grant the Quakers are more just than others and careful not to tell a Lye That I plead for Lying as a Lawful thing That I bring 2 Tim. 15. When I call to mind the unfeigned faith that dwelt in thy Grandmother Lois c. as a place of scripture for playing at Bowles and Nine-pins These and many more things I dare be bold to say He knows all to be false He must have a face of brass that asserts this No wonder Quakers cry shame and Mr Penn sent me so civil a Message to disown his being concerned since the Cry about it This man hath cut the throat of their cause If I prove they Bow I prove them Apostates on this mans Confession then Penn is an Apostate and the Quakers so and B. C. himself so and that since he wrote this Book as well as before as Quakers themselves confess Other things I shall Reply to That I had a fit of Love Mell ancholy made my Confessions and put up in a Mad-house BOX Hence I am call'd what he pleas'd times without number as he had this from the Devil so I suppose W. C. from his Book if this be false if I never was one hour in any such place What Defamers are these Who shall believe any thing on their Evidence as all my Friends and Enemies too acquainted with me know these stories to be some of the most Impudent Falshoods that ever were written as I declare they are and I never heard the stories till now so I say as the Epistle I will give Five Pounds to any man that shall prove it I hope no Ministers for my sake will regard what these Monsters not Men say of them and People not Regard That R. V. denies That be corfessed to me their Minds were changed about leaving the place of Publick Worship in time of Persecution That Monsieur Whitehead denies he expounded Solomon's Fool for a Holy Man Whoso is Simple Prov. 9.4 Give me any form of Words as an Oath or Protestation before God I will use them That I heard both these two things with my own Ears the Cretians are alway Lyars and so are the Quakers Should I say I this day saw a Quaker carryed along Drunk by six Men holding his Hands Legs Body that I never saw none so carryed but he I care not for their denying when so many Spectators know it True That he knows not the story of the 40 days Fast c. Never heard von of Mrs. C. of Plymouth if her husband A. be alive let him thank you not me you force me to it I care not to mention names for reason-mentioned in that Book That W. P. denies the story of Mr. Nicholet whom he caused to be turned out of his place for Licensing a Book against Popery in the Reign of K. James the 2d Why had not Mr. Penn gotten this under Mr. Nicholet's own Hand Let him yet do it it much concerns him No no his guilty Conscience keeps him from desiring it Mr. Nicholets honesty credit from doing it That I say I have 〈…〉 me yet I write what I have read and heard Every Child B. C. excepted would know the sease of this Did any one think tho I am far from my Study and friends I must forget all that ever I read and heard too That I said I would not propose a Question to William Pnen and yet did about not serving Protestant but Popish Kings in Wars when the sense is plain I proposed it not for an Answer to me he being suspected to
Catechised in the Church in What is the chief end of Man c. Mr. W. Churchman tells me He could trov G. Keith 's Questions to be Prepositions if need were He can say more of the Aberdeen business then I do know or are like to know for him is a fine way of answering I ask you one question Whatever place Mr. Keith Allegorized in Scripture Did he once disown the Literal Sense this his Adversaries you plead for have done though sometimes they would own it Politickly Shew one place where he is guilty here For your Citations It is no more a Body of Flesh Blood and Bones when it Riseth then say I Not the same Numerical Body He ever own'd it the same for Substance though not Qualities What think you of the stub stance of the Egg and Chick coming of it of Rain when Ice or Snow So his other is not that Flesh that shall be raised the Apostle saith not That Body c. 1 Cor. 15.27 53. Yet this Mortal shall put on Immortallity How shall it arise Various opinions are about it among them that are sound in th● Doctrine of the Resurrection For your great Contradiction p. 13. about 〈…〉 the 〈…〉 Christ as universally ●●●essa●● to S●●vation ●nd yet True C●ristia●●y may sul●●●●n about the ●●●●●edge of Christ in the ●●●●r he says ●●ny know little of the History of Christ 〈◊〉 Birth manner of Life and Death that must know him to be a mediator and Saviour and how far God may even to Heathens discover a Mediator before they dye who knows You have many in your Church and too many in ours that assert more than this That Heathen Turks c. that never disown their Mabomet may Love God and be Saved are these Apostates too For that is my Question not whether G. Keith wrote Unsoundly at one time or contradicted himself at another For that mistaken passage in his Exact Narrative He had not changed in one Principle of Religion for Thirty Year or more He did not mean by Principle Opinion as you seem to understand him but Artitle of Faith Sure he confessed before 〈◊〉 Change in Opinion about many things as Matthew 28.19 but he was Baptized himself in Infancy which he owns c. You tell us not what bitter Expressions he once dropt against Presbyterians and others but in the general Hard ones only that he call'd y●● Prelacy Limbs of Antichrist your Mi●●stry Ambitious Lordly without Ze●● for God and you bid me look in his Books Why Sir I thought you had known that not only G. Keith but the Scots Presbyterians Rutherford Gelaspee and many others call'd them so too and at home the Anabaptists and some Independents and Presbyterians themselves have done the like Doth this prove them Apostates No no more nor so much as the names you give our Ministers and Meetings too gross to foul my Paper with prove you to be so For Election I take him to be more found than you your Citations of him your joques compare together If you prove him a Corrupt Man a Man that had forgotten himself and dropt an Unadvised word at Turners-Hall I had not been his Voucher but an Apostate he was not by any Arguments of yours and therefore you a Libeller what your design was in that abusive Pamphlet he that runs may read I know he hath corrupt notions many and great and yours of the New Church of England Remember there I keep not the Old one not few or sinail how I have proved that I need not tell you so well you thought it not safe to Reply but only rage You Vngrateful VVretch c. I profess when 〈◊〉 look upon my Reprimand I wonder how you could call your Return an Answer Was it Ignorance or Malice perhaps both but no wonder when you tell the Quakers that I have written nothing to purpose against them I suppose you do not cannot think so Why answer you not my Questions to Mr Penn he could not B. C. attempted it but hath ruined their cause and advanced mine by making Lyes his Refuge which I suppose makes Mr. Penn disown any hand in it I say it again My work was not fully ●●●●ify G. Keith 〈◊〉 whether he hat● contradicted himself but to detect W. Church-man 's design which was to strengthen the hands of Penn and the Foxonian Quakers to wound the Separate Ones this is obvious to any Sober Reader to be his Design Did G. K. ever reject the Literal Sense as they often did of Scripture If he said Christ within was the Object of Faith did he say only as within denying Christ without to be so which all know the rest did times without number I am glad we have him so far I wish more I doubt not he is C●●pable yet not so vile as W. C. makes him he will shortly answer for himself Further W. C. proves him an Apostate by denying Election c. I replyed Then are the Arminians Apostates which is to be abhorr'd by Sober Men He says I am no Arminian No and yet joques after B. C. and sports himself with you of the Election of Grace 〈◊〉 Reprobate VVorld you babes of Grace which Pious Sober Arminians do not Well if he be not so are such Arminians as appear in a great Figure and who are numerous in the Church of England Apostates I proved at 〈◊〉 the New Church of England is an Apostate Church on his Principles not mine I am answered You are an Vngrateful VVretch to reflect on that Church that gives you your Liberty We humbly and heartily Thank His Majesty and the Parliament for continuing the Liberty we had before but will you not thank us for helping you to secure your Liberty by joining with you to effect the late happy Revolution How odious would it have been after all to have made our Circumstances worse than King James did yet to be plain Had not he given a Toleration we might have been to seek for it for some of you Suppose a Man on the Highway is full of Rage Beats me takes away my Money and was about to cut my Throat there comes a Highway-man to destroy both he calls for my help we kill him he cuts not my Throat after all I am beholding to him I confess but is this an answer to my Objection Then is this Church an Apostate Church c. which I have abundantly proved consequent to his Opinion to say You are Vngrateful and never answer one of my Arguments Is this Disputing The Title of my Book shews what I designed not a Vindication of G. Keith against all his Citations no but to convince B. C. of his feeble Arguing about Apostacy In what sense Baptism with Water is is not a Fundamental I shall take no notice of an old objection when my answers are not considered Let him read once again my Reprimand Mr. W Churchman you tell What care you should take to keep G Keith out of your Church