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A01948 The state-mysteries of the Iesuites, by way of questions and answers. Faithfully extracted out of their owne writings by themselues published. And a catalogue prefixed of the authors names which are cited in this booke. Written for a premonition in these times both to the publike and particular. Translated out of French; Mysteres des peres jesuites. English Rivet, André, 1572-1651.; Gosselin, Peter. 1623 (1623) STC 12092; ESTC S120862 30,376 63

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the growing Fury in the cradle to the end they may not too late repent their passed negligence Let the Prince feare lest after the course of this life he be not condemned as culpable of for saking his charge and so consequently of a most grieuous crime and infinite mischiefes and that he be not very iustly punished for neglecting the publike and particular good NOVICE. This being well vrged to Catholike Princes they whom we hold for Heretickes cannot thinke themselues safe in a kingdome whose Prince maketh account of such admonitions IESVITE I will tell thee in few words what father Becan teacheth hereupon First that liberty of Religion is altogether vnlawfull and repugnant to the Law of God Secondly that it is pernicious to the Common-wealth Thirdly that the Prince ought not to command approue or introduce it but rather by all meanes if commodiously it may be done impeach and extirpe it Fourthly if commodiously it cannot be done but with great preiudice to the Common-wealth he may tolerate it for a time Lastly that if it be so tolerated and that thereupon an accord be made he must obserue it NOVICE. Doth not this last clause make well for those who haue their Kings perpetuall and irreuocable Edicts for it IESVITE First of all we say that this toleration ought not to be but for a time Secondly that though in words we giue the lie to such as charge vs for saying that faith is not to be kept with heretickes yet in effect we haue alwayes reserued two meanes for Catholike Princes and Common-wealths to break with them because whatsoeuer they doe or promise wee say that they doe not grant security vnto Hereticks but onely against vniust violence alwayes excepting iustice and the execution of right and by this meane was Iohn Hus and his companion caught for whatsoeuer safe conduct was giuen him against vniust violence that made nothing to saue him from the fire which he had iustly merited The other meane is that we let Princes know How when there are two Princes whose iudgements and tribunals are different and that the one is inferior to the other the inferior whatsoeuer he promiseth cannot hinder the superior from the execution of his iurisdiction and therefore he is quit of his promise because he hath done all that he can Now the Pope being the superior of all Christian Princes principally he may notwithstanding any promise of theirs exercise his iurisdiction in their Kingdomes And forasmuch as Christian kings not onely as touching their persons but also as touching their Royall power not onely as men but also as Kings are vnder his power It is then in him to direct them in the vse of their power and to command forbid or hinder them in any thing which he shall see conuenient for the spirituall good of the Church And so he may amend and correct the ciuill lawes when they are not agreeable to good manners make others or command Princes to reuoke and reforme them This being there is no Edict can hold good when oportunity serueth and that Kings will obey the Pope as they ought NOVICE. It were an hard thing to draw this obedience from som any Kings that haue such seuerall and diuers interests whereby they are gouerned in these matters wherefore me thinkes it were good for that purpose there were one onely King which might be the Superiour of all the rest of the whole world as there is one Pope aboue all Bishops For those two agreeing wee should haue a dainty harmonie though not very pleasing to the eares of the Heretickes IESVITE Cardinall Bellarmine hath thus spoken of it Me thinkes it were very expedient if it could be effected without iniustice and warres that all Prouinces of the world were gouerned by one soueraigne King in politick matters especially if this soueraigne Monarch had vnder him not Deputies and Vice-roys but true princes as the Pope hath vnder him true Bishops We trauell with all our power to attaine hereunto NOVICE. If this could once be brought about to whom should we giue our voyces for that vniuersall Monarchy IESVITE Nay now thou touchest a shrewd point I tell thee and which is not fit to be diuulged for feare lest they which shall see themselues excluded do mainly oppose it and therefore it must be kept secret as a most reserued article Howbeit for thine owne particular content read the Preface of our good friend Henry Doerhangk professor of the Spanish Italian and French Tongues at Cullen vpon his Spanish Grammar which will teach thee what hope thou art to haue in the matter Looke here is the Booke printed by Peter Brachel 1614. Read this clause NOVICE. All the people of the earth doe see that the Name of God is called vpon by the Spaniards that is to say that God is in the middest of them and is their protector which is the reason why all men feare and tremble vnder them And I doubt not if they continue so constant and zealous to amplifie and defend true Religion and pietie to obserue both diuine and humane Lawes so strictly and to abstaine from the most enormous sinnes but that by the blessing of God they shall possesse the Monarchy of the whole world and subiect all countries people and nations vnder the most sweet and glorious yoake of Christ and then shall they accomplish that which our Lord and Sauiour said And there shall be but one shepheard and but one fold IESVITE This is a mystery not to be published till the euent appeare for which we labour so much I haue many others besides to impart vnto thee but that shall be at another time for now thou hast enough to employ thy meditation vpon yet a good while that so thou maist be made capable of the practice of these good instructions NOVICE. I thanke you good Father now I finde indeede that Father Deza did not mock when in his Sermon he said that our Father Ignatius was that Angell of whom S. Iohn speaketh in the Apocalyps chap. 10. vers 1. And I saw a mighty Angell come downe from heauen clothed with a cloud and a rainbow vpon his head and his face was as the Sunne and his feet as pillars of fire c. For by that which is said how he was clothed with a cloud is meant that he couered his high and generous enterprises and designes which also representeth the gouernment of our Societie that manifest their effects by concealing the rules and manner thereof And as in times past a cloud couered the tabernacle of the Congregation the glory of the Lord filled the Tabernacle Exod. 40. 34. So God who hath built this Tabernacle of ours here vpon earth to the end so holy a thing might be respected as it deserueth hath ordained that its manner of gouernment should be so secret as no man should be able to pierce into it Lo that which is meant by amictum nube I shall neuer forget this