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A01324 A reioynder to Bristows replie in defence of Allens scroll of articles and booke of purgatorie Also the cauils of Nicholas Sander D. in Diuinitie about the supper of our Lord, and the apologie of the Church of England, touching the doctrine thereof, confuted by William Fulke, Doctor in Diuinitie, and master of Pembroke Hall in Cambridge. Seene and allowed. Fulke, William, 1538-1589. 1581 (1581) STC 11448; ESTC S112728 578,974 809

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be_v de_fw-fr typico_fw-la symbolicoque_fw-la corpore_fw-la a_o typical_a or_o sacramental_a body_n the_o place_n of_o augustine_n in_o psalm_n 58._o with_o the_o cavillation_n of_o adoration_n which_o bristol_n make_v be_v examine_v in_o my_o answer_n to_o heskin_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 45._o and_o in_o my_o answer_n to_o saunder_n lib._n 6._o cap._n 2._o the_o place_n of_o augustine_n which_o i_o translate_v word_n for_o word_n and_o faithful_o give_v the_o sense_n thereof_o as_o every_o man_n may_v see_v that_o read_v it_o purg._n 309._o bristol_n shameful_o pervert_v set_v the_o cart_n before_o the_o horse_n in_o rehearse_v of_o it_o to_o make_v a_o contrary_a sense_n but_o even_o in_o that_o same_o book_n and_o chapter_n de_fw-fr trinitate_fw-la lib._n 3._o cap._n 10._o augustine_n be_v clear_a against_o that_o monstrous_a opinion_n of_o transubstantiation_n speak_v of_o sign_n &_o namely_o of_o the_o bread_n which_o be_v spend_v in_o receive_v of_o the_o sacrament_n sed_fw-la quia_fw-la haec_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o because_o these_o thing_n be_v know_v to_o man_n because_o they_o be_v do_v by_o man_n they_o may_v have_v honour_n as_o religious_a thing_n but_o wonder_v as_o miracle_n they_o can_v have_v whereof_o if_o he_o have_v know_v the_o carnal_a presence_n &_o change_v of_o the_o bread_n such_o as_o the_o papist_n speak_v of_o he_o must_v needs_o have_v acknowledge_v many_o wonder_n and_o miracle_n contrary_a to_o the_o order_n of_o nature_n which_o they_o be_v constrain_v to_o feign_v although_o no_o man_n can_v see_v they_o whereas_o all_o corporal_a miracle_n wrought_v by_o god_n be_v sensible_a the_o place_n of_o justinus_n with_o bristowe_v cavil_v confute_v be_v in_o my_o answer_n to_o heskin_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 43._o the_o place_n of_o irenaeus_n in_o the_o same_o answer_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 4●_n and_o theodoret_n the_o last_o doctor_n that_o i_o cite_v who_o perchance_o may_v he_o ignorant_a of_o transubstantiation_n say_v bristol_n because_o it_o be_v not_o clear_o define_v to_o be_v in_o form_n and_o matter_n before_o the_o last_o council_n of_o trent_n you_o shall_v find_v with_o his_o cavil_n confute_v lib._n 3_o cap._n ●2_n &_o 56._o against_o sanders_n book_n of_o the_o sacrament_n lib._n 6._o cap._n 5._o 6_o about_o the_o sacrament_n of_o penance_n absolution_n bristol_n about_o the_o sacrament_n of_o penance_n the_o popish_a church_n fulke_n say_v four_o thing_n first_o that_o by_o the_o priest_n absolution_n the_o guilt_n of_o sin_n and_o eternal_a pain_n due_a for_o it_o be_v take_v away_o but_o one_o hour_n torment_n in_o purgatory_n as_o the_o master_n of_o the_o sentence_n teach_v be_v not_o take_v away_o thereby_o and_o allen_n confess_v bristol_n say_v it_o avail_v to_o take_v away_o the_o torment_n of_o hell_n but_o allen_n purg._n 167._o require_v submission_n to_o god_n minister_n for_o absolution_n give_v they_o in_o most_o ample_a manner_n a_o commission_n of_o execute_v christ_n office_n in_o earth_n both_o for_o pardon_v and_o punish_v of_o sin_n that_o suffer_v here_o in_o his_o church_n sentence_n and_o just_a judgement_n for_o his_o offence_n he_o may_v the_o rather_o escape_v our_o father_n grievous_a chastisement_n in_o the_o life_n to_o come_v thus_o allen_n be_v clean_o contrary_a to_o bristol_n and_o himself_o and_o leave_v naked_a in_o this_o place_n as_o almost_o in_o all_o place_n by_o bristol_n who_o will_v seem_v to_o take_v upon_o he_o his_o defence_n the_o second_o thing_n be_v temporal_a debt_n remain_v after_o absolution_n touch_v this_o matter_n i_o say_v purg._n 42._o that_o augustine_n say_v of_o the_o death_n of_o moses_n and_o aaron_n that_o they_o be_v sign_n of_o thing_n to_o come_v not_o punishment_n of_o god_n displeasure_n quaest._n in_o num._n lib._n 4._o cap._n 53._o here_o bristol_n complain_v of_o my_o sincerity_n and_o rehearse_v the_o word_n before_o when_o it_o be_v say_v to_o they_o that_o they_o shall_v be_v gather_v to_o their_o people_n it_o be_v manifest_a that_o they_o be_v not_o in_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n which_o separate_v from_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o holy_a eternal_a society_n thereby_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o also_o their_o death_n be_v sign_n of_o thing_n to_o come_v &_o not_o punishment_n of_o god_n indignation_n what_o want_v of_o sincerity_n be_v here_o except_o there_o be_v so_o great_a difference_n between_o indignation_n and_o displeasure_n but_o bristol_n cavil_v of_o the_o wrath_n that_o separate_v for_o ever_o as_o though_o they_o be_v in_o a_o wrath_n that_o separate_v for_o a_o time_n yet_o the_o scripture_n press_v where_o god_n say_v you_o shall_v die_v because_o you_o do_v not_o believe_v i_o this_o be_v no_o satisfaction_n for_o their_o temporal_a debt_n remain_v after_o absolution_n whereof_o the_o question_n be_v but_o a_o fatherly_a correction_n to_o they_o and_o a_o example_n unto_o other_o yea_o such_o a_o correction_n as_o be_v a_o great_a benefit_n namely_o to_o be_v receive_v into_o the_o eternal_a land_n of_o promise_n than_o the_o punishment_n be_v that_o they_o shall_v not_o enter_v into_o the_o earthly_a possession_n likewise_o i_o report_v that_o augustine_n cont._n faust._n lib._n 22._o cap._n 67._o and_o de_n pecc_n mer._n ac_fw-la rem_fw-la lib._n 2._o cap._n 23._o say_v that_o the_o punishment_n lay_v upon_o david_n after_o ●his_n adultery_n remit_v be_v the_o chastisement_n of_o god_n fatherly_a scourge_n bristol_n ask_v if_o it_o be_v no_o punishment_n because_o it_o be_v a_o scourge_n yes_o very_o and_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o for_o sin_n yes_o true_o but_o never_o the_o soon_o a_o temporal_a debt_n remain_v after_o absolution_n when_o it_o be_v the_o scourge_n of_o a_o father_n chastisement_n for_o i_o chastise_v not_o my_o child_n that_o his_o punishment_n shall_v satisfy_v any_o part_n of_o his_o fault_n but_o to_o keep_v he_o in_o humility_n and_o fear_v for_o commit_v the_o like_a and_o for_o example_n to_o the_o rest_n of_o my_o family_n as_o wise_a a_o father_n and_o divine_a as_o bristol_n will_v esteem_v i_o and_o how_o can_v bristol_n defend_v augustine_n against_o the_o pelagian_n show_v why_o death_n that_o come_v in_o by_o sin_n still_o remain_v even_o upon_o they_o who_o original_a sin_n he_o confess_v to_o be_v so_o full_o forgive_v in_o baptism_n that_o they_o owe_v nothing_o neither_o eternal_o nor_o temporal_o for_o they_o if_o death_n in_o such_o be_v any_o temporal_a debt_n remain_v after_o absolution_n when_o he_o will_v have_v the_o fatherly_a scourge_n of_o god_n to_o be_v a_o punishment_n to_o satisfy_v the_o debt_n of_o sin_n but_o for_o a_o contradictory_n of_o allens_n assertion_n i_o cite_v out_o of_o chrysostome_n in_o rom._n ho._n 8._o where_o there_o be_v forgiveness_n there_o be_v no_o punishment_n bristol_n say_v he_o speak_v of_o the_o forgiveness_n in_o baptism_n to_o a_o jew_n allen_n of_o forgiveness_n in_o penance_n but_o he_o may_v not_o creep_v out_o at_o that_o hole_n it_o be_v too_o straight_o for_o he_o chrysostome_n speak_v general_o wheresoever_o there_o be_v forgiveness_n there_o be_v no_o punishment_n yea_o he_o say_v vbi_fw-la gratia_fw-la ibi_fw-la &_o venia_fw-la where_o grace_n be_v there_o be_v forgiveness_n therefore_o if_o there_o be_v grace_n in_o penance_n there_o be_v forgiveness_n and_o where_o there_o be_v forgiveness_n there_o shall_v be_v no_o punishment_n neither_o do_v chrysostome_n in_o that_o place_n speak_v a_o word_n either_o of_o jew_n or_o baptism_n but_o of_o all_o christian_n escape_v by_o grace_n the_o wrath_n which_o the_o law_n work_v and_o be_v make_v heir_n of_o the_o promise_n by_o faith_n the_o three_o thing_n be_v satisfaction_n against_o which_o bristol_n say_v i_o allege_v chrysostome_n and_o ambrose_n so_o fond_o that_o the_o word_n which_o i_o allege_v will_v declare_v chrysost._n de_fw-fr compunct_a cord._n lib._n 1_o non_fw-la requirit_fw-la etc._n etc._n god_n
it_o may_v be_v find_v out_o or_o remain_v hide_v that_o some_o faithful_a man_n by_o a_o certain_a purgatory_n fire_n by_o how_o much_o more_o or_o less_o they_o have_v love_v perish_v good_n to_o be_v save_v soon_o or_o late_a yet_o not_o such_o of_o who_o it_o be_v say_v that_o they_o shall_v not_o possess_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n except_o the_o same_o crime_n be_v remit_v to_o they_o convenient_o repent_v bristowe_v answer_n be_v that_o there_o be_v two_o purgatory_n fire_n the_o one_o to_o punish_v soul_n for_o sin_n whereof_o s._n augustine_n be_v certain_a the_o other_o not_o to_o punish_v sin_n but_o only_o to_o wear_v out_o by_o little_a &_o little_a such_o affection_n to_o worldly_a lawful_a thing_n as_o to_o wive_v etc._n etc._n that_o without_o grief_n of_o mind_n he_o can_v part_n from_o they_o so_o as_o the_o other_o which_o build_v gold_n etc._n etc._n whereof_o augustine_n be_v uncertain_a afterward_o he_o conclude_v they_o be_v two_o operation_n of_o one_o purgatory_n the_o one_o to_o purge_v sin_n with_o punishment_n the_o other_o to_o purge_v worldly_a lawful_a affection_n if_o there_o be_v but_o one_o purgatory_n fire_n augustine_n doubt_v not_o only_o of_o the_o punishment_n but_o of_o the_o purge_a fire_n but_o augustine_n speak_v not_o of_o purge_v lawful_a affection_n for_o what_o purgation_n shall_v there_o need_v where_o no_o unlawful_a thing_n be_v to_o be_v purge_v but_o of_o unlawful_a affection_n of_o worldly_a lawful_a thing_n which_o be_v love_v so_o far_o above_o measure_n that_o they_o can_v be_v lose_v for_o christ_n sake_n without_o grief_n these_o cupiditates_fw-la greedy_a desire_n augustine_n call_v the_o wood_n straw_n and_o stubble_n which_o be_v build_v upon_o the_o foundation_n christ_n upon_o who_o it_o be_v sin_n to_o build_v any_o thing_n but_o gold_n silver_n or_o pearl_n etc._n etc._n 1._o cor._n 3._o so_o that_o it_o be_v sin_n that_o augustine_n speak_v of_o whereof_o he_o doubt_v whether_o it_o be_v purge_v by_o a_o purgatory_n fire_n after_o this_o life_n again_o utter_o exclude_v impenitent_a sinner_n from_o hope_n of_o this_o purge_a fire_n it_o be_v manifest_a that_o of_o penitent_a sinner_n he_o make_v this_o doubt_n whether_o they_o may_v be_v save_v by_o this_o purgatory_n fire_n after_o their_o death_n wherefore_o bristow_v distinction_n be_v clean_o contrary_a to_o augustine_n meaning_n likewise_o where_o he_o make_v a_o doubt_n whether_o such_o worldly_a lawful_a affection_n remain_v in_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o elect_a depart_a as_o love_v of_o wife_n etc._n etc._n he_o shameful_o slaunder_v saint_n augustine_n as_o though_o he_o hold_v any_o such_o opinion_n when_o no_o such_o thing_n can_v be_v gather_v out_o of_o his_o word_n falsify_v to_o his_o purpose_n the_o doctor_n word_n which_o be_v rerum_fw-la secularium_fw-la quamuis_fw-la licitè_fw-fr concessarum_fw-la tale_n cupiditates_fw-la such_o greedy_a desire_n of_o worldly_a although_o thing_n lawful_o grant_v to_o call_v they_o such_o worldly_a lawful_a affection_n whereas_o augustine_n say_v not_o that_o such_o affection_n be_v lawful_a but_o that_o the_o worldly_a thing_n be_v lawful_a on_o which_o such_o affection_n be_v set_v likewise_o ad_fw-la dulci_fw-la quaestion_n prima_fw-la he_o bring_v for_o example_n a_o certain_a carnal_a affection_n toward_o riches_n a_o cogitation_n of_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v of_o this_o world_n how_o a_o man_n shall_v please_v his_o wife_n &c_n &c_n to_o be_v this_o wood_n hay_o etc._n etc._n and_o likewise_o doubtful_o conclude_v whether_o therefore_o in_o this_o life_n only_o man_n suffer_v these_o thing_n or_o whether_o certain_a such_o judgment_n follow_v after_o this_o life_n etc._n etc._n exclude_v again_o murderer_n fornicator_n liar_n perjurer_n etc._n etc._n the_o like_a doubt_n he_o make_v de_n civit._n dei_fw-la lib_fw-la 21._o ca._n 26._o saying_n that_o peradventure_o it_o be_v true_a that_o this_o purge_a fire_n be_v in_o this_o light_fw-la only_o peradventure_o after_o this_o life_n only_o or_o both_o in_o this_o life_n and_o after_o but_o yet_o for_o all_o man_n to_o pass_v through_o the_o perfect_a without_o sense_n they_o that_o be_v entangle_v with_o these_o venial_a sin_n with_o sense_n of_o pain_n and_o loss_n etc._n etc._n but_o augustine_n say_v bristol_n show_v himself_o certain_a of_o purge_v pain_n de_fw-fr civitate_fw-la dei_fw-la lib._n 21._o cap._n 24._o saying_n it_o be_v certain_a that_o such_o man_n be_v purge_v before_o doomsday_n by_o temporal_a pain_n etc._n etc._n as_o for_o this_o place_n be_v not_o find_v in_o many_o ancient_a write_a copy_n as_o vives_z show_v seem_v to_o be_v a_o corrupt_a place_n add_v by_o other_o not_o write_v by_o augustine_n the_o like_a may_v be_v suspect_v of_o the_o place_n cap._n 13._o of_o the_o same_o book_n where_o he_o report_v what_o he_o have_v say_v before_o of_o remit_v sin_n in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v which_o yet_o be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v in_o that_o book_n as_o for_o the_o place_n of_o enchirid._n cap._n 110._o and_o ad_fw-la dulc._n 〈◊〉_d 2._o which_o he_o quote_v have_v nothing_o but_o of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a wherefore_o augustine_n although_o he_o allow_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a to_o avail_v they_o remain_v in_o secret_a receptacle_n as_o he_o term_v they_o enchirid._n cap._n 109._o yet_o he_o be_v not_o certain_a of_o purgatory_n touch_v invocation_n of_o saint_n which_o i_o confess_v augustine_n to_o allow_v according_a to_o the_o error_n of_o his_o time_n and_o prayer_n to_o be_v profitable_a for_o the_o dead_a i_o say_v pur._n 317._o that_o augustine_n be_v full_a of_o doubt_n and_o question_n in_o the_o matter_n and_o first_o whether_o the_o mother_n supplication_n to_o the_o martyr_n profit_v her_o son_n augustine_n say_v that_o do_v profit_v he_o bury_v in_o the_o holy_a place_n if_o any_o thing_n profit_v whereof_o i_o gather_v that_o he_o speak_v doubtful_o bristol_n cry_v out_o that_o i_o be_o pass_v all_o shame_n for_o augustive_a never_o doubt_v whether_o such_o supplication_n may_v profit_n but_o whether_o the_o mother_n have_v any_o such_o cogitation_n i_o answer_v he_o doubt_v at_o least_o whether_o such_o kind_n of_o supplication_n do_v profit_n or_o no_o for_o the_o doubt_n of_o her_o cogitation_n be_v express_v before_o in_o a_o other_o condition_n si_fw-mi quidem_fw-la credidit_fw-la if_o she_o believe_v etc._n etc._n but_o to_o refel_v my_o impudency_n as_o it_o shall_v seem_v he_o have_v heap_v up_o a_o sort_n of_o place_n to_o prove_v that_o saint_n augustine_n clear_o affirm_v supplication_n to_o saint_n to_o profit_n the_o dead_a first_o non_fw-la inaniter_fw-la fiun●_n they_o be_v not_o make_v in_o vain_a cap._n 1._o but_o these_o word_n be_v not_o in_o that_o chapter_n he_o say_v there_o neque_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la inaniter_fw-la neither_o the_o church_n nor_o the_o friend_n care_v for_o the_o dead_a bestow_v in_o vain_a such_o devotion_n as_o it_o can_v where_o he_o 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be_v real_a deade_n which_o must_v be_v perform_v in_o christ_n supper_n and_o yet_o be_v call_v for_o good_a respect_n figurat_fw-la 〈…〉_o e_o word_n must_v needs_o be_v figure_n of_o somewhat_o and_o the_o deed_n and_o word_n be_v refer_v to_o the_o supper_n must_v needs_o betoken_v somewhat_o as_o they_o be_v consider_v but_o the_o eat_n of_o the_o flesh_n in_o christ_n supper_n can_v betoken_v nothing_o at_o all_o except_o his_o flesh_n be_v there_o eat_v the_o eat_a whereof_o may_v be_v the_o ground_n of_o this_o betoken_v therefore_o these_o word_n import_v of_o necessity_n that_o in_o christ_n supper_n the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n be_v real_o eat_v and_o his_o blood_n be_v real_o dr●nken_a for_o the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n can_v not_o be_v make_v the_o figure_n of_o bakery_n bread_n etc._n etc._n o_o what_o whistle_n and_o hiss_v will_v be_v in_o the_o sophister_n school_n if_o such_o a_o argument_n come_v among_o they_o which_o reason_v joint_o of_o thing_n to_o be_v divide_v 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i_o pray_v you_o be_v the_o word_n figurative_a active_o he_o answer_v the_o actual_a eat_n of_o christ_n flesh_n be_v not_o only_o say_v to_o be_v figure_v but_o also_o be_v teach_v to_o be_v a_o figure_n itself_o of_o another_o spiritual_a eat_n if_o saunder_n be_v as_o ignorant_a as_o his_o argument_n be_v absurd_a he_o be_v the_o most_o notable_a ass_n that_o ever_o write_v in_o divinity_n but_o i_o impute_v it_o not_o to_o ignorance_n but_o to_o malicious_a deceitfullnes_n that_o he_o confound_v word_n and_o deed_n and_o reason_v thus_o the_o word_n be_v figurative_a active_o because_o the_o deed_n be_v figurative_a active_o which_o be_v such_o a_o monster_n as_o sophistry_n never_o breed_v a_o great_a and_o what_o proof_n have_v you_o of_o this_o actual_a eat_n of_o christ_n flesh_n to_o be_v a_o figure_n active_o of_o spiritual_a eat_n nothing_o but_o a_o mangle_a place_n of_o ambrose_n 〈◊〉_d 1._o
in_o the_o unity_n of_o his_o body_n that_o be_v in_o the_o coviunction_n of_o christian_a member_n the_o sacrament_n of_o which_o body_n the_o faithful_a communicate_v be_v accustom_v to_o receive_v from_o the_o altar_n he_o be_v to_o be_v say_v true_o to_o eat_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o to_o drink_v the_o blood_n of_o christ._n de_fw-fr civi_fw-la dei_fw-la li._n 21._o cap._n 25._o in_o the_o same_o chapter_n he_o appose_v sacramento_n tenus_fw-la &_o revera_fw-la manducare_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la to_o eat_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n as_o far_o as_o the_o sacrament_n and_o to_o eat_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o very_a deed_n ergo_fw-la they_o that_o eat_v the_o sacrament_n only_o eat_v not_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o very_a deed_n therefore_o christ_n gift_n be_v not_o only_o in_o the_o sacrament_n jewel_n the_o father_n of_o the_o old_a law_n receive_v the_o self_n same_o body_n that_o be_v now_o receive_v of_o the_o faithful_a aug._n the_o util_a p●n_n cap._n 1._o saunder_n augustine_n say_v the_o self_n same_o spiritual_a meat_n that_o be_v christ_n by_o faith_n but_o not_o the_o same_o corporal_a meat_n which_o be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n tract_n 11._o in_o joan._n fulke_n augustine_n say_v not_o that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v our_o corporal_a meat_n but_o that_o which_o answer_v in_o proportion_n to_o manna_n as_o a_o corporal_a meat_n namely_o bread_n and_o wine_n tract_n 26._o saunder_n but_o tract_n 11._o he_o say_v quid_fw-la est_fw-la manna_n what_o it_o manna_n i_o be_o say_v christ_n the_o live_a bread_n that_o come_v down_o from_o heaven_n fulke_n it_o follow_v immediate_o manna_n accipiunt_fw-la fideles_fw-la the_o faithful_a receive_v manna_n therefore_o he_o mean_v not_o manna_n in_o this_o place_n for_o the_o corporal_a meat_n but_o for_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v spiritual_a meat_n saunder_n but_o he_o say_v further_a it_o be_v know_v what_o god_n have_v rain_v from_o heaven_n and_o know_v not_o the_o catechumeni_fw-la what_o christian_n take_v let_v they_o blush_v because_o they_o know_v not_o let_v they_o pass_v over_o by_o the_o red_a sea_n let_v they_o eat_v manna_n that_o even_o as_o they_o have_v believe_v in_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n so_o jesus_n may_v commit_v himself_o to_o they_o therefore_o jesus_n be_v eat_v bodily_a of_o we_o after_o baptism_n fulke_o i_o deny_v the_o argument_n except_o manna_n be_v jesus_n bodily_a if_o manna_n be_v spiritual_o take_v than_o jesus_n be_v eat_v in_o the_o sacrament_n as_o he_o be_v in_o manna_n which_o saunder_n confess_v to_o be_v only_o spiritual_o saunder_n but_o catechumeni_fw-la may_v so_o eat_v christ_n that_o be_v spiritual_o fulke_n they_o may_v not_o eat_v christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n before_o they_o be_v baptize_v and_o therefore_o they_o be_v ignorant_a of_o that_o mystery_n jewel_n every_o faithful_a man_n be_v make_v partaker_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n in_o baptism_n while_o he_o find_v that_o unity_n which_o be_v signify_v by_o the_o sacrament_n therefore_o the_o faithful_a eat_v christ_n body_n otherwise_o then_o in_o the_o sacrament_n apud_fw-la bedam_fw-la 1._o cor._n 10._o saunder_n they_o be_v not_o partaker_n real_o but_o only_o in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o supper_n in_o which_o if_o the_o body_n be_v not_o real_o present_a he_o that_o be_v baptize_v shall_v not_o at_o all_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o christ_n supper_n because_o he_o be_v not_o partaker_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n but_o only_o be_v make_v a_o member_n of_o that_o mystical_a body_n which_o in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v signify_v fulke_n beda_n know_v no_o such_o distinction_n of_o real_o &_o spiritual_o neither_o do_v he_o say_v they_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o supper_n but_o of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n in_o baptism_n wherefore_o i_o know_v not_o whereof_o saunder_n dream_v saunder_n augustine_n say_v of_o heretic_n and_o schismatics_n de_fw-fr civet_n dei_fw-la lib._n 21._o cap._n 25._o they_o be_v not_o in_o that_o bond_n of_o peace_n which_o be_v express_v in_o that_o sacrament_n the_o bond_n of_o peace_n express_v be_v not_o the_o wheaten_a corn_n mould_v in_o one_o loaf_n but_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n present_v real_o under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n fulke_n alack_o poor_a sophistry_n christ_n be_v the_o bond_n of_o peace_n but_o the_o bond_n of_o peace_n be_v express_v in_o the_o external_a sacrament_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n although_o the_o wheaten_a corn_n be_v not_o the_o bond_n of_o peace_n express_v yet_o the_o bond_n of_o peace_n be_v express_v by_o the_o wheaten_a corn_n etc._n etc._n saunder_n look_v in_o my_o 5._o book_n cap_n 5._o fulke_n look_v there_o for_o a_o answer_n cap._n v._n saunder_n master_n jewel_n have_v not_o reply_v well_o touch_v the_o capernaite_n harding_n if_o christ_n in_o s._n john_n have_v speak_v tropical_o the_o jew_n and_o disciple_n who_o be_v use_v to_o figure_n will_v not_o have_v say_v this_o be_v a_o hard_a say_n jewel_n his_o reason_n hang_v thus_o the_o capernaite_n understand_v not_o christ_n ergo_fw-la his_fw-la body_n be_v real_o in_o the_o sacrament_n saunder_n no_o sir_n they_o understand_v christ_n to_o speak_v without_o parable_n &_o christ_n word_n pertain_v to_o the_o sacrament_n therefore_o his_o body_n be_v real_o in_o the_o sacrament_n they_o understand_v what_o christ_n promise_v but_o they_o believe_v it_o to_o be_v either_o not_o possible_a or_o not_o convenient_a fulke_n the_o mayor_n &_o minor_fw-la of_o your_o misshape_a syllogism_n be_v both_o false_a augustin_n in_o ps._n 33._o exhorruerunt_fw-la sermonem_fw-la etc._n etc._n they_o be_v afraid_a of_o his_o speech_n &_o not_o understanding_n they_o think_v our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n have_v speak_v some_o hard_a thing_n etc._n etc._n saunder_n s._n augustine_n say_v they_o understand_v not_o because_o they_o believe_v not_o in_o joan._n tr._n 27._o fulke_n what_o though_o infidelity_n be_v the_o cause_n of_o their_o not_o understand_v yet_o he_o say_v non_fw-la intelligendo_fw-la scandalizati_fw-la sunt_fw-la by_o not_o understand_v they_o be_v offend_v ergo_fw-la you_o say_v false_o they_o understand_v what_o he_o promise_v and_o much_o less_o understand_v they_o the_o mean_v how_o it_o shall_v be_v perform_v jewel_n he_o say_v the_o bread_n which_o i_o will_v give_v etc._n etc._n of_o spiritual_a eat_n it_o be_v the_o spirit_n that_o quicken_v understand_v you_o my_o word_n spiritual_o say_v augustine_n saunder_n see_v in_o my_o three_o book_n cap._n 19_o &_o 20._o fulke_n see_v the_o answer_n in_o the_o same_o place_n jewel_n you_o shall_v not_o eat_v say_v s_n augustine_n with_o your_o bodily_a mouth_n this_o body_n that_o you_o see_v etc._n etc._n i_o give_v you_o a_o certain_a sacrament_n saunder_n of_o this_o place_n i_o have_v speak_v at_o large_a lib._n 6._o cap._n 2._o &_o lib._n 3._o cap._n 14._o fulk_n and_o i_o 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the_o end_n the_o school_n may_v be_v make_v fat_a of_o god_n fulke_n tertullian_n speak_v manifest_o of_o the_o external_a sacrament_n which_o have_v the_o name_n of_o the_o thing_n signify_v as_o of_o the_o sign_n of_o baptism_n imposition_n of_o hand_n etc._n etc._n jewel_n chrysostom_n will_v not_o suffer_v this_o evasion_n who_o say_v to_o understand_v carnal_o be_v to_o understand_v plain_o as_o the_o thing_n be_v utter_v and_o to_o think_v upon_o nothing_o else_o saunder_n we_o understand_v not_o so_o for_o we_o see_v the_o form_n of_o bread_n think_v upon_o the_o body_n of_o christ._n fulke_n but_o what_o do_v the_o capernaite_n see_v who_o understanding_n you_o defend_v and_o what_o other_o thing_n do_v you_o understand_v then_o be_v utter_v in_o the_o word_n jewel_n s._n augustine_n say_v the_o say_n of_o christ_n be_v a_o figure_n or_o manner_n of_o speech_n command_v we_o to_o be_v partaker_n
the_o first_fw-mi be_v already_o do_v that_o be_v predestination_n the_o second_o &_o three_o be_v both_o do_v &_o be_v a_o do_v &_o shall_v be_v do_v the_o be_v calling_z &_o justification_n but_o the_o four_o be_v now_o in_o hope_n &_o shall_v be_v in_o deed_n that_o be_v glorification_n the_o sacrament_n of_o this_o thing_n that_o be_v of_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o body_n &_o blood_n of_o christ_n in_o some_o place_n daily_o in_o some_o place_n by_o certain_a distance_n of_o day_n be_v prepare_v in_o the_o lord_n table_z to_o some_o unto_o life_n to_o some_o unto_o destruction_n but_o the_o thing_n itself_o whereof_o also_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n be_v to_o every_o man_n unto_o life_n to_o no_o man_n unto_o destruction_n whosoever_o shall_v be_v partaker_n of_o it_o you_o have_v therefore_o gain_v thus_o much_o by_o your_o cavil_v that_o neither_o the_o flesh_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n promise_v in_o the_o sixth_o of_o john_n nor_o the_o thing_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v 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a_o figure_n a_o token_n a_o sign_n a_o image_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o christ_n word_n may_v be_v take_v with_o a_o metaphor_n trope_n or_o figure_n saunder_n it_o stand_v well_o together_o to_o be_v a_o sign_n &_o the_o truth_n as_o christ_n be_v the_o image_n of_o god_n &_o yet_o god_n also_o fulke_n it_o be_v impossible_a to_o be_v a_o sign_n &_o the_o thing_n signify_v neither_o be_v christ_n god_n the_o father_n of_o who_o he_o be_v the_o image_n although_o he_o be_v god_n jewel_n even_o duns_n see_v that_o follow_v the_o bare_a letter_n we_o must_v needs_o say_v that_o the_o bread_n itself_o be_v christ_n body_n saunder_n the_o place_n be_v not_o quote_v therefore_o it_o be_v doubtful_a for_o no_o man_n believe_v you_o fulke_n look_v in_o the_o four_o book_n upon_o the_o sentence_n the_o same_o
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council_n harding_n we_o behold_v say_v the_o council_n of_o nice_a the_o lamb_n of_o god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d put_v or_o lay_v on_o that_o holy_a table_n &_o we_o receive_v his_o precious_a body_n and_o blood_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d very_o &_o in_o deed_n which_o be_v to_o say_v real_o jewel_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v not_o find_v in_o the_o greek_a nor_o in_o tunstall_n but_o devise_v by_o m._n harding_n saunder_n it_o be_v find_v in_o the_o act_n of_o the_o council_n that_o be_v not_o all_o print_a but_o they_o be_v extant_a in_o diverse_a library_n fulke_n you_o name_v none_o where_o we_o shall_v find_v they_o to_o try_v your_o truth_n and_o the_o antiquity_n of_o those_o copy_n saunder_n in_o many_o latin_a print_v book_n it_o be_v translate_v s●●m_n situate_v or_o put_v fulke_n the_o question_n be_v not_o what_o some_o latin_a copy_n have_v but_o what_o be_v the_o original_a greek_a jewel_n must_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o signify_v to_o 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