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A48286 The only vvay to rest of soule in religion here, in heaven hereafter: shewed plainly and succinctly by pure scripture, in three treatises: demonstrating, I. That the church was left by Christ, as the means to teach us his gospel. 2. Which is she that was left in that office. 3. What it is, she teacheth for gospel. By I.L. Bach of Div. Licensed by the university of Oxford, to preach throughout Engalnd, and late rector of L. in the county of S. now a Catholike. Lewgar, John, 1602-1665. 1657 (1657) Wing L1832A; ESTC R218105 64,778 221

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as in that so in this of all things of the sort there spoken of viz. Prophecyings the word next afore 8. Object 1 Cor. 10.15 Iudge ye what I say Leaving his doctrine to be judged of by the people Solution By a judgement of pure approbation For else you must say which I think you will not presume that people are judges even of Scripture it self for so was that which he then bad them judge Object 1 Cor. 4.6 Not to think of men above what is written Solution That is whereas he had named no man but under the borrowed names of himself and Apollos they should not think or guess who he meant by him or him 10 Object 1 Pet. 4.11 If any man speak as the oracles of God Solution That is if any man have the gift of utterance or eloquent speech let him use it as Gods words speech or gift that he may be glorified 11. Object Apoc. 22.18 If any man shall adde unto the words c. Solution Either by corrupting them or holding any thing contrary to them for example that Antichrist shall be a Christian or reign 1000. years or honor Gods Tabernacle or them that dwell in heaven Apoc. 13.6 c. CHAP. II. Solving Objections against her Infallibility 1. Object Exod. 32.4 THey said These are thy Gods O Israel Idolatry taught by the Priests High Priest and all Solution No such matter For 1. Perhaps that was not the Priests saying but the Peoples 2. If the Priests not Aarons 3. If his also enticing to Idolatry migh be without teaching it 4. If he taught it he was not then the Supreme Pastor but Moses 2. Object Ier. 50.6 Their shepherds have caused them to go astray Solution But he doth not say by their teaching 3. Object Mal. 2.8 You have caused many to stumble at the Law Solution But he saith not by your teaching 4. Object Mat. 7.15 24.5 24. Take heed of false Prophets Many shall arise and deceive many c. Solution But he never said Take heed of your Pastors they shall seduce you 5. Object Mat. 13.25 The Church is compared to a field sown at first with good seed afterward over run with tares of errors Solution 1. Perhaps not the Church but particular Churches or souls 2. Grant the Church those tares meant not errors in doctrin but in life or practice 3. Grant erronous doctrines yet 1. Not sown by her or any of hers but the enemy 2. Nor springing up within her doctrine but only within the same field or countrey where it was sown or is growing 6. Object Mar. 14.64 Ioh. 9.22 The very Chair of Moses taught false doctrine viz. that Iesus was not the Christ. Solution But Moses Chair was not then in office further then it was authorized by him who albeit he did authorize it as formerly in all things until his own should be erected yet it is manifest he excepted himself who put all things under it 7. Object Luke 18.8 VVhen the Son of man comes shall he finde faith in the earth Solution Little perfect faith in the world but he shall true and perfect faith believed and professed by all lively members of his church consequently taught by her Pastors that company of his Elect spoken of Psal 89.4 Mat. 16.18 24.24 8. Object Acts 20.30 Even Pastors were to arise speaking perverse things and drawing away disciples after them Solution True particular persons e.g. Luther Cranmer Calvin c. Therefore he said not your selves but of or among your selves Nor did he give any item touching false Pastors to come but unto Pastors onely 9. Object Rom. 11.21 Even the Church of Rome her self is warned of her being in danger of falling from grace and not onely by wickedness of life but by Infidelity as the Synagogue had done Solution Not the Church of Rome for that includes the Pastor of it which then was S. Peter but the generality of particular persons among the Gentiles 10. Object Gal. 2.11 Even Peter himself erred Solution But not in teaching false doctrine 11. Object 2 Thess 2.3 Afore Antichrist's coming there was to be a notable falling away Solution But he doth not say from faith much less of the Church 12. Object 2 Pet. 2.1 There shall be false Teachers among you c. Solution But he doth not say the Church shal become a false Teacher or speak or mean of Teachers coming in quality of her Pastors but of Prophets 13. Object 1 Ioh. 4.1 Try the spirits whether they are of God c. Solution But he doth not say Try every spirit believe none nor doth he mean the spirits of Teachers authorized by the Church much less her spirit but the spirits of such as come in quality of Prophets Now that Christ and his Apostles should so often and so plainly warn people of false Teachers to come in after ages and always speak of them under the name of Prophets and never once give any least intimation of danger possible by believing the Church or their Pastors if any such danger were to be but on the contrary advise and encourage them absolutely to believe and obey them is against the very light of reason Conclusion of the second Part. You see how nothing is to be said against our Principle now let us examine yours THE THIRD PART Examining Protestant Proofs CHAP. I. Examining Proofs for the Tenet YOu say The Scripture was left for the means of teaching the Gospel See if you can finde where it saith any such thing of it self in words or sense 1. Argu. Deut. 30.10 Moses Law is called the Law in simple sense Answer Not in simple sense but onely the Law by him written for else it would exclude the Prophets with which it is often joyn'd Mat. 5.17 nay the Book of Iob which was then written and a multitude of Divine Precepts then not written namely those commanding faith hope contrition for sin c. forbidding drunkenness fornication c. 2 Argu. Deut. 31.10 Thou shalt read this law in their hearing that they may learn to fear the Lord. Answer But he doth not say that it may teach it them nor any of those things above named that contain or imply the sense of your principle compare it with them one by one and you will finde it true as I say 3. Argu. Mark 1.1 S. Mark 's is called the Gospel of Christ in simple sense Answer Not but onely the Gospel by him written for els it would exclude the other three 4. Argu. Iohn 5.39 Search the Scriptures for in them ye think to have eternal life and they are they which testifie of me Answer But he doth not say in them you may have eternal life or they will teach you or any other of the words you are to prove or to the same sense 5. Argu. Rom. 3.2 To them were committed the oracles of God Meaning the Scriptures Answer Not necessarily much less solely there having been many oracles given to them more then
or some other future temporal calamity proper to that Nation and age 5. Argu. S. Mat 12.3 Have ye not read c. Spoken by our Saviour to the people there and else where often Answer 1. Never once but to Teachers only and as such And one reason I have for saying so is because when a lay Pharisee demanded of him the way to heaven he sent him not to the Scripture as he did the Lawyer Luk. 10.26 but to his Catechism Thou knowest the Commandments Mar. 10.19 2. Grant spoken to the people it supposes they did expresses no intent they should read it Argu. 6. S. Ioh. 5.39 Search the Scriptures Plainly expressing intent the people should read them Answer No such thing For 1. It is not certain be spake to the people nay it is probable that not to them but to the Rulers My reason is because he spake it to those v. 10. who had perhaps convented afore them for certain publikely rebuked the man for carrying his bed on the Sabbath day and examined him touching his author or counsellor to whom he submissively gave the best account he then could of who it was and as soon as he knew went to give them a better who thereupon prosecuted our Saviour for his life All which look like proceedings of men fitting in Moses Chair nor is it to the contrary that they are there called bare the Iews for by that name this Evangelist often without question meant them in authority Ioh. 4.19 9.21 18.12 2. Grant spoken to the people perhaps he said not to them as your Translators render it Search but onely you do search For the Original is indifferent to either sense and the later as agreeable to the scope and coherence of the Text as the former 3. Grant the speech as you render it search it doth not necessarily infer their reading it because they might search by their Priests in their copy And it is the more possible because the Bible was then a Book of too costly a price for the ordinary peoples purse to purchase 7. Argu. Acts 8.28 The Enuch reading Scripture is set forth for an example Answer Perhaps not no more then his sudden embracing a new Religion upon no more prudencial motives then are set down especially when supposing it true as you hold he had no ground in Gods word for his reading it 8. Argu. Acts 17.11 The Bereans at least are expressely commended for it Answer 1. It may be not vid. supra par 2. c. 1. ob 6. 2. Grant they were it implies other people in such a case as that was lawfully may do the same expresses no intent they should no more then the commending of Solomon for building such a magnificent Temple David for intending it 3. Grant that also their searching it doth not nenecessarilie include their reading it no more then the King 's writing a copie of it doth the writing it himself Deu. 17.19 See what is said in the answer above to the 6. Arg. § 3. 9. Argu. Rom. 15.4 Scripture was written for our instruction Answer Most certain But strange if written for the peoples reading it should never tell them so 10. Argu. 2 Cor. 1.13 Eph. 3.4 VVhereby when ye read c. Spoken to the people Answer 1. Perhaps not no more then divers other things in the Epistles are 1 Cor. 5.4 1 Thes 5.27 but to the Pastors properlie And as is ordinarie in writing to a community to say when you read this when none is meant properlie or in his own person but the Clerk or other Officer to the Companie 2. Grant to the people it implies a supposal they did or would expresses no intent they should read it Argu. 11. Col. 4.16 Read the Epistle from Laodicea Answer Spoken to the Pastor to cause it to be read among the people or in the Church as he said in the vvords afore 12. Argu. 2 Ioh. 1. At least the Lady Elect was to read the Epistle to her written Answer No doubt it was so intended But little to your purpose For 1. She was but one person and a person to whom in particular it was written nor is there any intimation of intent she should give a copie of it or impart it to any other 2. Nor vvas it then a part of the Bible 3. Nor did it contain any doctrinal instruction further then by way of admonition or motive to beware of Hereticks n. 2. That God Almighty ordained or expressed any intent there should be any copy or transcript of any one sacred book more then that the King of the Iews when there should be one should have a copy of Moses Law Deut. 17.18 n. 3. That God Almighty ordained or expressed any intent H. Scripture or any part of it should be so much as read to the people more then the book of Deuteronomy once in 7 years namely in the year of Iubilee Deut. 31.9 once a piece of Ieremy exhorting to repentance and denouncing miseries else to come upon them Ier. 36.6 once the first Epistle to the Thessalonians to them 1 Thess 5.27 that to the Colosians to them and the Laodiceans and that from Laodicea to the Colosians Col. 4.16 §. 2. From the Old Testament n. 1. That in 700. years together viz. from Iosuah's reading it Ios 8.34 until Iosiah's 2 Chron. 34.30 any part of the Scripture more then once the piece of Ieremy abovementioned was ever read to the people or the Priests ever blamed for neglecting it Argu. 2 Chron. 17.9 It was read to them in Iehosaphat's time Answer Like enough But the text faith not so and our trial now is by expresse Text. n. 2. That there was in that Nation any copy more then the original one in the Temple of any one Sacred Book Argu. 2 Chro. 17.9 Was not that a copy as the Priests in Iehosaphat's time carried about with them Answer It may be so but perhaps not §. 3. From the Prophets That any one of them foresaw that any one title of the Gospel should be written Argu. Ezek. 1.5 Your self will say Ezekiels four Beasts presignifying the four Evangelists Answer I will not say it is certain And though I would our trial is now by express Text. § 4. From the New Testament n. 1. That anie lay-Christian ever read a word in the Bible Argu. 1. Acts 17.11 The Bereans did Answer But they were then no Christians 2. Argu. 1 Cor. 1.13 The Corinthians did Answer It may be not See sup ans to 10. arg 3. Argu. 2 Pet. 3.16 Those did that wrested it to their damnation Answer 1. Perhaps those were Teachers 2. If people they might do that without reading it n. 2. That our B. Saviour or anie Apostle took anie care or order for the means necessarie to the reading of Scripture by the people namelie preserving the Original or some Authentical Copie of it transcribing and dispersing copies of it throughout the world translating it into vulgar languages compiling the pieces of the
New Testament written straglinglie some in one Countrie some in another 500 miles asunder into some one volume c. § 5. From the Gospels n. 1. That our B. Lord ever spake word touching H. Scripture unto anie Christian more then to bring proofs out of it to his incredulous Disciples Luke 24.27 44. or as to anie use wherein it was to be after his ascension Argu. S. Ioh. 5.39 Search the Scripture Was not that spoken to Christians Answer No but to Infidel-Iews and as such as appears by the words immediately afore and after you believe not in me you will not come to me and by the end for which he sent them to Scripture namely to bring them to faith Consequently neither spoken nor meant to any properly or necessarily but infidel Iews n. 2. That he ever intended or foresaw otherwise then as he was God that any one tittle of his Gospel should ever be written And pray note this well §. 6. From the Acts. That any Apostle wrote or intended or knew of or foresaw the writing of any one syllable of the Gospel §. 7. From the Epistles n. 1. That any Apostle at his death knew there was any tittle of the Gospel then written more then by himself except that S. Peter knew of some of S. Pauls Epistles 2 Pet. 3.15 or to be written Argu. 2 Cor. 8.18 S. Paul speaks of S. Luke as famous then for his Gospel throughout Christendom Answer It is certain he spake not of and perhaps meant not either S. Luke or his Gospel or any written Gospel but some companion of his Silas Barnabas or some other famous for his zeal and painfulness in preaching n. 2. That he that dyed last of them S. Iohn left at his death any such volume as is now called the Bible or New Testament or any two Books of the New Testament in one volume yea or in one Countrey except where two Eptstles were written to one Church or person or any original yea or perfectly authentical copy of any one book of Old or New Testament If you can prove none of these you cannot but see how far you are from any hope or likelihood of proving any such thing as your principle THE FOVRTH PART Confuting the Protestant Tenet CHAP. I. Vrging the first argument The silence of Scripture I Hope you see how far the Scripture is from affirming your tenet Which you wil not wonder at when you shal see how much may be said out of it against it which is my next and last work I say then it is against reason to think Scripture was left for the means of teaching the Gospel My reasons are six The first because as appears by the former part it affirmes no such thing touching it self For though a negative argument from it not in Scripture therefore not true be not alwayes good it s always good against you who use it as good against us and in such a tenet as this of yours condemned by the Church and in such a point as this the most fundamental in Religion This silence if it be well considered will appear so strange to any rational man as he cannot imagine it possible had your tenet been true Considerations aggravating the silence §. 1. Of the Prophets First the silence of the Prophets is very strange For 1. There is not any eminent particular pertaining to the exterior form of the Church but we may finde it foretold in some one or other of them and some very plainly and in divers of them this touching the means of teaching the Gospel according to our opinion in almost every one of them and to some minute circumstances when it was to begin in what City in what part of the City in what manner and by what means to spread over the world how long to continue c. strange if Scripture were to be it it should never be so much as mentioned 2. And yet how many how just occasions were there for mentioning it if to be as you say namely when they name the School the master the word or Law of God yea the Gospel though by your Translators rendred profanely good tidings Esa 40.9 compared with Rom. 10.15 when Ieremy came so near the Scripture as to promise the writing of the new Law and to name by whom with and in what it was to be written But then indeed he saith it was not to be by any creature or with ink or in any material tables much less stony ones as the old was but in a more excellent way befitting a more excellent Law by God himself with grace in the hearts of the Pastors teaching it from hand to hand of the people believing it Ier. 31.31 3. Again Ezekiel in his eight last Chapters describing at large the beauty and perfection of the Church whose glory was to exceed that of the Synagogue Agg. 2.9 names all the eminent particulars wherein it was to consist under the name of their types in the Temple of Solomon and among the rest her Pastors very largely and particularly under the name of Sadoc and his sons Ezek. 44.15 c. But upon all the list we finde not the tables of Moses Law albeit that was one of the preciousest jewels of the Temple 1 King 8.9 and the proper type of the New Testament §. 2. Of the Gospels More strange is the silence of our B. Saviour in the Gospels 1. When the Law was to be written good God! what care taken 1. For its writing The principal part of it written by an Angel representing God's person Exo. 24.12 The residue by his special command by Moses 2. For its custody Layed up in the Ark the sacredst Cabinet the world ever saw there kept under the wings of the same Cherubins as kept Paradise Deut. 10.5 3. For the giving copies of it to whom c. Deut. 17.28 4. For the reading of it to the people and at what times necessarily Deut. 31.9 And all these thought fit to be recorded and within the book it self And yet that was to be the law but of that one Nation to endure but a short while to be but a small part of their Scripture was ●either necessary nor available to justifie the observers Rom. 3.20 and beside it they were to have not onely a constant race of Teachers divinely authorized but Prophets all along until the Messiah's coming Mat. 11.13 Christ's Law was to oblige every creature to endure to world's end to be necessary sufficient to justification And can it then be thought in reason he would go hence and leave it to be committed to writing and that writing to be after the Apostles death the onely means as you say of teaching it with authority and never speak any syllable concerning it 2. Nor can his silence touching it be imputed to accident or incogitancy for he could wel remember to take care for the preaching of it who were to preach it to whom what was to be taught c.