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A15127 An ansvvere to a certen libel intituled, An admonition to the Parliament, by Iohn VVhitgifte, D. of Diuinitie Whitgift, John, 1530?-1604. 1572 (1572) STC 25427; ESTC S122025 173,998 302

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