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A65321 Dialogues between Philerene and Philalethe, a lover of peace and a lover of truth, concerning the Pope's supremacy. Part I Watts, Thomas, 1665-1739. 1688 (1688) Wing W1156; ESTC R27584 35,721 46

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he was forthwith condemned for his disobedience in a Synod of ten Provinces held at Attini We may add to this example of Hincmare that of Arnulph A B. of Rheims who was condemned and deposed for several crimes in an Assembly of many Bishops held at Rheims who declared that they acted by the Authority which had been given to the Apostles and which had been left to them This sufficiently sheweth that an Apostolick spirit reigned in the souls of our Prelates and that in spight of the enterprizes and attempts of the Court of Rome they maintained this general opinion of their worthy Predecessors That they held their charges and the authority which belongeth to them from God and not from the See of Rome They shewed the same zeal in the A B. of Sens his Affair at the Synod of Pontignon and in that of Saire concerning a Church in the Diocess of Tours held by a Cardinal sent by John the 20. Which they call a Sacriledg and a contradiction to the Holy Canons which ordain that a Bishop can do nothing in anothers Diocess without his consent And in that of Geofry Bishop of Chartres in whose place one Ivo had been surrogated by Pope Vrban 2d whom Richarius A B. of Sens Mertropolitan of Chartres together with the Bishops of Paris Troys and Meaux opposed They also shewed this same spirit in the advice they gave to Philip the August to appeal to the next Council from the Sentence of Innocent 3 as from an abuse in the Pragmatick Sanction which St. Lewis made by their advice and in the Council which they gave together with others assembled at Paris in the year 1209 to Philip the Fair against the enterprizes of Boniface 8 not to mention the famous Book call'd Somnium Viridarii writ and published by the order of Charles the Fifth called the Wise no● of the Laws and Rules wich Charles the 6. his Son made against the Usurpations of the Court of Rome which sheweth sufficiently that the Authority of the See of Rome was not looked upon as the superior Authority in France But after that the Council of Constance had formally explained it self upon this matter men spoke bolder in France than they had done in former times Charles 7th forbad the French Prelates to go to the Council called at Ferrara in the year 1427. And he himself called in the City of Bourges a great and famous Assembly of the Princes of his Blood Officers of his Crown Prelates and Ecclesiastical persons members of his great Council Doctors in Law as well Divine as Humane and Professors of the Universities together with the Legates of Eugenius 4th After that the Doctors of the Universities had represented in the name of the whole Gallican Church her former state her Rights and the attempts which had been made upon her Liberties they besought his Majesty to remedy this disorder that he would be pleased to Authorize some Decrees and Canons of the General Councils of Constance and of Basil such as that is which declares that General Councils lawfully assembled and representing the Church militant have their power immediately from Jes Christ and are above the Pope which Councils they themselves had judged ought to be observed Wherupon the King approved confirmed the aforesaid decrees ordered all people to observe and keep them inviolaby This is that which was called the pragmatick Sanction 32 years afterwards Lewis 11. being won by the flatteries of Pius 2d and through evil suggestions as may be seen in the Book of the three Estates of the year 1483 revoked the Pragmatick Sanction without any consultation of the States before hand or of the Gallican Church The Kings Attorny General and the Rector of the University of Paris formally opposed the Registring the Kings Letters concerning these his Decrees The Court of Parliament it self represented in writing the great evils that would happen upon the abolishing of so just a Sanction to so good effect that Lewis 11th far from abolishing it gave orders for its confirmation as amongst others that of the 16 of August 1478 whereby it is forbidden to go the Rome to seek after any Benefice or to pay in any money upon pain of Confiscation of Body and Goods and to prevent Anathema's from Rome he caused his Parliament of Paris at the request of his Attorny-General to pass an Act that in case the Pope should undertake any thing to the prejudice of his Ordinances he should appeal to the next Council The Estates of the Kingdom whereof the Clergy is the first Order being Assembled at Tours present a Petition to King Charles the 8th in the first Article of which they desire His Majesty to keep and maintain inviolably the Pragmatick Sanction of Bourges founded upon the Decrees of the Councils of Constance and of Basil And in the National Council which Lewis the 12th Assembled in the same City of Tours in the year 1510 the observation of the Pragmatick Sanction was fully resolved upon Observe how our venerable Prelates have ever maintained the Interest and the Privileges of the Church against the attempts of the Court of Rome and how they make appear to the whole World that they do Religiously keep in their hearts the Sentiments which they had received from their Ancestors that they believed that the supreme Authority resided in General Councils and that how eminent soever that of the See of Rome might be it was still dependant upon theirs This is the Doctrine which hath been taught and maintained by the University of Paris as may be seen in the Writings of her most famous Doctors such as are the Chancellor (c) Tract de potest Eccles Gerson James Almain c. to which to may add a great many more as (d) Ni● Cus de concord can lib. 2. cap. 2. the Cardinal of Cambray Nicho Cusan (e) Pan. in cap. signif extrav de elect the Abbot Panormitan (f) Abulensis in cap. 18. Matt. quaest 108. Abulensis (g) Fran. vict T. de potes Eccles Franciscus de Victoria (h) Alph. a Cast lib. 7. de just pun haer Alphonsus a Castro and all the Divnes of the Council of Trent which is spoken of in the 7th Book of the History of this Council who maintained with our Bishops of France and those of Spain that the jurisdiction of Bishops and their residence was of Divine Right Philer All that you have said perswades me sufficiently that the Authority of Councils is above that of the Popes but there are some scruples that I desire to be resolved in before that I can cordially embrace your Opinion These scruples arise from two things wherein you will agree with me The one is That the Popes have been ever desired to confirm Councils which without doubt had never been if their Authority had not depended on that of the Popes And the other is That the Title of Head of the Council is given to the Pope