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A63346 A true account of the whole proceedings betwixt His Grace James Duke of Ormond, and the Right Honor. Arthur, Earl of Anglesey, late Lord Privy-Seal, before the King and Council and the said Earls letter of the second of August to His Majesty on that occasion : with a letter of the now Lord Bishop of Winchester's to the said Earl, of the means to keep out popery, and the only effectual expedient to hinder the growth thereof, and to secure both the Church of England, and the Presbiterian party. Ormonde, James Butler, Duke of, 1610-1688.; Anglesey, Arthur Annesley, Earl of, 1614-1686.; Morley, George, 1597-1684. 1682 (1682) Wing T2408; ESTC R24643 20,676 35

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and wait for my supplanting The only passage that I yet know of which your Majesty seems to take offence at being that in page the 32. of the Irish Committees being in at the Intrigue of the Popish faction at Court c. since it was suddenly and unexpectedly urg'd against me at Council not being one of the particulars I was ordered to Answer that day I could then only Answer what occurr'd to me on that surprise without so much as my reading the Clause viz. that first negatively by those words was not meant His late Majesty or his Council but the Popish faction then haunting the Court like Locusts against the Laws which prohibit their approach to it and as many as will be owned then Papists at Court and were capable of Intriguing I do not scruple to say I intended them and such there were of my Knowledge at that time who may be justly suspected to have laid the design of all the Calamities of this Kingdom and Ireland that ensued And as long as any such shall dare to come to Court and by their Faction spread Libells to the scandal of all legal proceedings and the exasperating your People dayly in affront of the wise provision the Laws of the Land have made against them neither your Majesty nor your Kingdoms can be safe but the seeds of sedition will grow up to Confusion And for your Majesties further satisfaction of my harmless intention in that expression now I have perused it at Leisure I find that in that Clause I assert nothing positively but when with disjunctive particles I had mentioned divers particulars which were in that Juncture the Jealousie and discourse of the times and even the boast of the Irish themselves I Conclude that I would not take upon me to determine any thing but that soon after the said Committees return for Ireland brake out that Execrable and unparrallel'd Rebellion of the Papists By this time your Majesty and the Council will I hope see cause to think that a Summons for me to produce Vouchers after they have given so terrible a Judgment against me comes too late and that if I were in a Condition to attend at the day appointed it would be no Contempt to decline making of further defence before the Lords who have prejudged me and Condemned me as Guilty before the hearing of the Cause be Concluded which I hope no other Court will do and was never that I know done by them till now in my Case nor do I hear that the Duke of Ormond is censured for the scandalous Pamphlet which he owned at Council to have published against me whereof I Complained I must therefore hope that what I have delivered in Council already will be better and more impartially considered without my giving your Majesty further trouble therein And as I have spent the best of my days in your Service without Reproach so I hope still to stand Justified to all the world what I Resolve whilst I live to be Your Majesties Most Obedient and Most Faithful devoted Subject and Servant Anglesey London Aug. 2d 1682. The said Letter was Read at Council Aug. 3d. but nothing appears entered to be done thereupon but the Earl of Castlehaven was called in several times and questioned about his Printed Memoirs answered by the Earl of Anglesey Lord Privy-Seal which he acknowledged to be his and in Conclusion his Book was by His Majesty and Council Judged to be a scandalous Libel against the Government but no further proceeding was had against his Lordship But Aug the 9th 1682. the following Warrant of the King was brought by Sir Lionel Jenkins Secretary of State to the Lord Privy-Seal in the Evening being then at his Lordships House in Drury-lane Charles R. To our Right Trusty and Right well beloved Cousin and Councellor Arthur Earl of Anglesey Keeper of our Privy-Seal Our will and pleasure is that Immediatly upon sight hereof you deliver up our Privy-Seal appointed by our Letters Patents to remain during our pleasure in your Custody into the hands of our Right Trusty and well beloved Councellor Sir Lionel Jenkins Knight our Principal Secretary of State and for so doing this shall be your Warrant given at our Court at Windsor the 8th day of August 1682. in the 34 year of our Reign By His Majesties Command Conway What passed between the Lord Privy-Seal Mr. Secretary appears not further then what follows under the laid Secretaries hand and Seal but it 's said the Lord Privy-Seal with his duty to the King desired the Secretary which he promised to let His Majesty know that at the signification of His Majesties pleasure he delivered the Seal more joyfully than ever he Received it Anglesey house on Wednesday the 9th of Aug. 1682. In pursuance of His Majesties W●rrant bearing Date Yesterday being the 8th day of this present Moneth of Aug. which Warrant was in these words viz. CHARLES R. Our will and pleasure is that Immediatly upon sight hereof you deliver up our Privy-Seal appointed by our Letters Patents to Remain during our Pleasure in your Custody into the hands of our Right Trusty and well-beloved Coun ellor Sir Leoline Jenkins Knight our Principal Secretary of State and for so doing this shall be your Warrant given at our Court at Windsor the 8th day of August 1682. In the 34 year of our Reign To Our Right Trusty and Right well-beloved Cousin and Counceller Arthur Earl of Anglesey Keeper of our Privy-Seal By His Majesties Command CONWAY The Right honorable the said Earl of Anglesey delivered into my hands His Majesties Privy-Seal sealed up with his Lordships Seal at Armes being put into the Purse given by His Majesty for Carrying the said Privy-Seal which said Privy-Seal I Receiv'd at Eight a Clock in the Evening of the said ninth of August witness my hand and Seal L. Jenkins FINIS Now to shew that Dr. Morley the Learned Bishop of Winchester is of the same opinion with the Earl of Anglesey for the keeping out of Popery now it seems to be flowing in upon us it hath been thought fit to fill up this last sheet with the following Letter of the said Bishop written to the said Earl above ten years ago when the Papists Warmly set upon their Design to introduce Popery and many years before their Desperate Plot since Discovered for which so many have suffered by the hand of Justice was ripe for Execution Which Letter was Receiv'd by the said Earl from the said Bishop July the 9th 1672. by the hands of the Lord Cornbury now Earl of Clarendon My Lord Yours by my Lord of Cornbury I Receiv'd this Morning from his own hands and this is to Return you my humble thanks for the favorable opinion of me you are pleased to express in it which as to the Zeal I have for the Protestant Religion I hope I may without vanity own to be true but must acknowledge I want these abilities to defend it which you seem
A TRUE ACCOUNT Of the whole PROCEEDINGS Betwixt his Grace JAMES Duke of ORMOND And the Right Honor. ARTHUR Earl of ANGLESEY LATE Lord PRIVY-SEAL Before the KING and COUNCIL and the said Earls Letter of the second of August to His Majesty on that Occasion WITH A Letter of the now Lord Bishop of Winchester 's to the said Earl of the means to keep out Popery and the only effectual expedient to hinder the growth thereof and to secure both the Church of England and the Presbiterian party London Printed for Thomas Fox at the Angel and Star in Westminster-Hall 1682. TO THE READER THat there hath been a Controversie between the Duke of Ormond and the Earl of Anglsey the immediate consequence of which hath been the removal of the Earl from a Place of great Honor and Trust under his Majesty for which he was in every respect extraordinarily well qualified perhaps no man questions And many may be likely to say that the more fatal such quarrels amongst great Personages are to either side the more instructive they commonly prove to the rest of Mankind who are thereby let into a Prospect of those things which were thought too sacred for the view of the profane Vulgar As every inferior Soldier may learn Skill Address by seeing two Generals engage in the sight of their Armies so certainly this Paper Battel between these Great ones may be of use to all sorts of men that have the lest Grain of that commendable Ambition to propound to themselves the greatest Examples Wherefore I conceive no man of which side soever Fortune or Choice hath placed him can blame me for procuring and exposing to publick view authentick transcripts of what hath passed in this Affair The bare curiosity to know how such men write were almost enough to tempt any one to peruse these papers but then when they relate to the History of unmovable Affairs of which eitherof the parties may say Quorum pars magna fui And when they were so great men in themselves their Parts in the History so great that they may be compared to Caesar writing the Commentaries of his own Enterprises I should think him very dull that need be courted to be a Reader But these Papers carry in them what I hope vvill further recommend and endear them to the greater part of this Nation most of them being in defence of the poor English Protestants in Ireland to some of vvhich the Earl of Anglesey hath most generously asserted the glory of their Martyrdom and to others the unblemished honor of preventing the utter ruin extirpation of the rest The Earl of Castlehaven who had been too too fortunate an Head to the RomanCatholick Rebels in Ireland had not only in Print justified his own engagement with that bloody Party butwould make that chiefly a Defensive War w ch was certainly the effect of an universal conspiracy amongst the Papists there Nor is it to be doubted but there were Encouragers in England This engaged the Earl of Anglesey amidst his many avocations to ward off the second blow against them who had suffered almost beyond all Example before and his interposition extracted from the Earl of Castlehaven a Confession that he himself acted as a Rebel and that all the Water in the Sea cannot wash that Rebellion off that Nation which was begun most bloodily on the English in that Kingdom in a time of a setled Peace without the least occasion given I must confess there are several passages in the Letter to the Earl of Castlehaven wherein the Duke of Ormond seems concerned to vindicate his own actions How far the Charge or the Defence is made good it is not for me to judge nor shall I in the least enter into the merits of it I am sure the Earl of Anglesey made a most noble Declaration fit to be written in Letters of Gold Truth says he being the greatest and best Friend I had rather one or several Persons and Families should lie under the consequence of its impartiality than that the English Nation and Protestant Religion should suffer by a timorous unworthy concealing or with-holding any part of it This being the said Earlsavowed Principle methinks he ought to be importunedby a publick Address that what he hath meditated and hath been preparing from Records and authentick unquestionable Relations and Transactions of that bloody Tragedy and matchless defection from the Crown and very Nation of English men may soon see the light To the KING' 's Most Excellent Majesty The Duke of Ormond Your Majesties Lieutenant of Ireland and Steward of Your Majesties Houshold most humbly represents THat the Earl of Anglesey Lord Privy-Seal in the Year 1681. caused a Book to be Printed whereof he hath acknowledged himself to be the Author intituled A Letter from a Person of Honour in the Country written to the Earl of Castlehaven being Observations and Reflections upon his Lordships Memoirs concerning the Wars of Ireland That in the said Book there are divers passages and expressions which are not only untrue but reflecting in a high degree upon His Late Majesties Government and particularly in Relation to the Rebellion and War in Ireland and to the several Cessations and Peaces made by His and Your Majesties Authority and Command That in the said Book the Lord Privy-Seal hath Malitiously endeavour'd to Calumniate and Asperse the Duke of Ormond by calling in question his Faithfulness and Loyalty to His Late Majesty the Sincerity of his Profession in point of Religion and insinuating that the Cessations and Peaces destructive as he says to the English and Protestants were advised and procured by him the said Duke out of his Affection to the Irish Popish Rebells because he was Allyed to many of them in Blood and by Marriages That the Lord Privy-Seal in the course of above Twenty Years free and friendly Acquaintance and Correspondence with the Duke of Ormond never thought fit to give him any intimation of his Lordships Intention to write a History of the Wars of Ireland and other transactions there wherein both the Duke and his Lordship tho' of opposite Parties had a great part but chose rather to seek for information from the Earl of Castlehaven and to publish his Observations on the Earl of Castlehaven ' s Memoirs in a Conjuncture when his Reflections in his Book and his Letter of the Seventh of December 1681. to the Duke of Ormond might not only do most mischief to him but to the Government The Duke of Ormond humbly conceives that at least while the Lord Privy-Seal and he have the honor to be of your Majesties Privy Council and in the stations they are it will not be fit for him to publish such an Answer to the Lord Privy-Seal's Book and Letter as might otherwise be necessary in Vindication of Truth His Late Majesties Justice and Honor and his own Integrity It is therefore most humbly proposed That Your Majesty would be
so he might have the more home and fuller stroak at the Earl before your Majesty when he hath endeavored but cannot hurt him before your People And it appears that it is but a New Phancy and Consideration taken up by the Duke for when he was pleased not only to Write but Print his Virulent Letter of the Twelfth of November agains● the Earl it had not it seems affected his Thoughts as of any import and this also shews That it is too late and dishonorable an appeal to be made to your Majesty after the Duke hath done it without Success in Print to the People and would never in probability have been attempted but that he thinks he hath arrived in a more happy conjuncture or hath entertained some groundless hopes of Favour by the Earls depression which he will never in the least apprehend from a just Master that he hath faithfully served so long And therefore the Earl conceiving that the Duke hath already in Print charged him with all he hath to say and more than he can make good and there being an Obligation of Honor lying upon him to publish any answer to the Lord Privy Seals Book which without difference or respect to him would be necessary in Vindication of Truth and the said Earl no ways apprehending the dint of such an Answer humbly beseecheth your Majesty that the Duke may be at liberty and encouraged in his worthy design for vindication of Truth by his Answer without regard to the Earl who is ready and willing to be trampled upon for the Truths sake and dreads much more what the Duke may with vain hopes whisper or insinuate to your Majesty than any thing he can or shall think sit to publish for that End The Earl tho' he acknowledgeth your Majesties Favor in the Office he enjoys it being a Testimony of your Gracious Acceptance of his long Faithful and Unblemish'd Service Yet for the Duke who hath partaken more deeply of your Royal Bounty and Favor than any other Subject to say no more to go out of his way after he had decipher'd the Earl sufficiently by his Title of Honor and Name of Office to mention his great Place seems to be rather in undervaluing than with intention to allow your Majesties poor Officer what his Predecessors though some of them were of inferior quality to his have enjoyed without Envy or Scorn from the greatest Subjects And I can truly say that I have not paid my Debts incurred in your Majesties Service nor preferred my many Children nor grown Rich by my Service and great Place though my Ancestors and I have received Titles of Honor and Marks of Favor from your Majesty and Predecessors for divers Generations As to the Duke's proposal That your Majesty will be pleased to Appoint a Committee of your Privy-Council to look over the Lord Privy-Seal's Book and to call the said Earl and Duke of Ormond before them and to Report to your Majesty how reparation may be made to all that are injured by the Earl's Mistakes and Errors in his said Book and Letter The Earl saith That the Duke seems to conceive that your Majesty and Council have more Leisure than the Earl dares presume and the Earl hopes the Duke may content himself by your Majesties Favor to Govern one Kingdom under you without involving this in his Concerns or offering to impose his Dictates upon your Majesty and Council of England who have Wisdom to appoint Committees or take other course for business properly before them without the direction of the Parties concern'd which most men in modesty forbear to give And though the Duke seems in great hast to have Mistakes and Errors fixed upon the Earl he on the contrary and though time will shew that all that are will appear to be on the Duke's part presumes not to give your Majesty trouble herein or to pursue the Duke for what is common to mankind And he conceives it an Employment below your Majesty and Council to be set upon an Essay to find matter to justifie what the Duke hath injuriously published against the Earl which course being his first choice he may freely pursue if he please As to the Duke's Objection That the Earl saith the Cessations and Peaces were destructive to the English and Protestants he believes the Duke will not say the Earl was the first that said so by above thirty years for it hath been Printed long ago and the Truth of History and publick acts will evince it must the Earl only be restrained from saying what he thinks and the Duke knows he thought near Forty years ago and endeavor'd to prevent as much as he could and believes he can make good that time was when the Duke was much of the same Opinion It was indeed an unhappiness to conclude Cessations and Peaces that neither the Irish nor English were satisfied with and my unhappiness is not small to be the only English man Reproached for an Opinion they generally had and felt by sad and dismal Effects If the Earl hath dealt more plainly with the Duke than his Nature averse to Contention and who hath had quarrels with none in the whole course of his Life inclines him to he hopes your Majesty will Consider that to be taxed of Untruth and Reflection on his Late Majesties Honor and Justice and branded as a Malitious Calumniator a close concealed and disguised Enemy to your Majesty a designer of Mischief to the Duke and the Government and one who chose the most effectual Conjuncture for those things with pretence only of Candor and impartiality are Provocations unusual and not easily born by Persons of Honor and might the better have been forborn because after all this loud noise and criminal Charge the Duke himself dwindles it into bare Mistakes and Errors which who Lives that is not guilty of and the Earl conceives is a Task very improper to be laid upon your Majesty to Examine especially in Cases of Controversie thereupon between your Majesties Subjects Thus the Earl tho' he had reason first to complain if he could have thought it decent to trouble your Majesty with private disputes after the Duke had Scandalized him in Print for which he prays and hopes Reparation in obedience to your Majesties Order hath represented what he conceived expedient upon this occasion wherewith if the Duke be not satisfied It is desired that he would in due form of Law and by legal and certain Articles charge the said Earl with particulars to which he may Answer by Advice of Council and if he Vindicates not himself let him be exposed to the Censure of this present Age and Posterity and incur your Majesties displeasure less than which cannot be aimed at by the Duke who to satisfie his unjust and causeless Animosity makes use of his Power to alienate from the Earl your Majesties favor good opinion and confidence after above three and twenty years faithful and diligent Service wherein the said Earl hath
pleased to appoint a Committee of your Privy-Council to look over the Lord Privy-Seal's Book and to call his Lordship and the Duke of Ormond before them and if upon Report from them it shall appear to your Majesty that the Earl of Anglesey has fallen into the Mistakes and Errors herein laid to his Charge That then Your Majesty would be pleased to Consider of the best and most Authentick means how Reparation may be made to all that are injured by the Earl of Anglesey's Book and Letter and to prevent the Credit his great Place supposed Knowledge especially in the Affairs of Ireland and his pretended Candor and Impartiality may give to his Writings in these and future times ORMOND A True Copy John Nicholas At the Court at Hampton-Court June 17. 1682. By the KING' 's Most Excellent Majesty AND The Lords of His Majesties most Honorable Privy-Council THE annexed Representation of his Grace the Duke of Ormond Lord Lieutenant of Ireland c. being this day presented and read to His Majesty in Council His Majesty taking the contents thereof into His Royal Consideration as a matter of very great Importance was pleased to Declare That he would hear the matter thereof in Council And did order That a Copy of the said Representation be delivered to the Earl of Anglesey Lord Privy-Seal And that his Lordship do attend His Majesty in Council on Fryday next at Three of the Clock in the Afternoon at White-Hall when His Majesty hath appointed to take that Business into further Consideration John Nicholas The Earl of Anglesey Lord Privy-Seal being by the said Order of His Majesty in Council of June 17. appointed to be at Council at white-Hall June 23. being not able to stand by reason of the Gout yet got out of his Bed and was carried thither where when the King came he spake to His Majesty as I am well inform'd to this effect SIR I Am in the first place to beg Your Majesties Pardon for my Obedience to Your Order for appearing here this day being in no condition of health to have left my Bed and altogether unfit for the presence of the King And indeed I expected that the Duke of Ormond would rather have Complained and Printed against the Earl of Castlehaven his Memoirs which Aspersed and Scandalised Your Royal Father's Government and represented the Protestants of Ireland as Rebells and the Confederate Irish Papists as Loyal Subjects then against me who had Vindicated His Majesties Government and his Protestant Faithful Subjects so Effectually in my Letter to the said Earl That his Lordship in an Epistle to the Reader which he after added to his Memoirs confessed himself and the Irish Confederates the Rebells And that all the Water in the Sea would not wash that Rebellion off that Nation This is the first quarrel I ever had with any man and Your Majesty sees how it is brought upon me and cannot but believe it very unwelcome to me from one who hath so many Years professed Friendship to me But that which troubles me in it is That it is pretended to be upon account of my failing in Duty to His Late Majesty and Your Self whereas if I can pretend to Merit in any thing it is for Exemplary and Considerable Faithfulness and Service to You both SIR That I may not trouble You with much Discourse I have reduced the Vindication of my Innocence to Writing which I present for my Answer to the Duke of Ormond ' s Accusation and to which I shall add no more but my desire That tho' the Duke of Ormond hath thought fit to Attaque me thus causelesly all the Contention hereafter between him and me may be who shall serve Your Majesty best and cost You least In the next place all the Papers Written and Printed that had passed between the Duke and the Lord Privy-Seal were read as they lay in order and both the Lords discoursed and bandied the matter fully which the King heard with great Patience The Duke of Ormond notwithstanding doing that right to the Lord Privy-Seal as to Acknowledge that none had been more Active and Instrumental in his Majesties Happy Restauration or carried it on with more Success in great Dangers and Difficulties than his Lordship In conclusion the Duke was Ordered to charge the Lord Privy-Seal by particulars in Writing that he might know what to Answer generals not being sufficient and so that business was left at that time Now follows the Lord Privy-Seal's Answer to the Duke of Ormonds Representation or Complaint against him To the King 's most Excellent Majesty The Earl of Anglesey Keeper of your Majesties Privy-Seal mistead by an ill President admitted most humbly represents THat having this Eighteenth day of June received in Bed where he had continued for above a Month last past very much afflicted with the Gout and deprived of the use of Hands and Leggs and by reason of Pains and Sicknesses getting little rest which he hath reason to believe was well known to the Duke of Ormond your Majesties Order in Council of the Seventeenth with a Copy of the Representation of the said Duke annexed and Command to attend your Majesty in Council on Fryday next at Three of the Clock in the Afternoon at White-Hall which he resolves by Gods Blessing to do if he shall be in a Capacity of Health and Strength to be carried thither without Peril of his Life which he doth not believe that the Duke himself thinks after a year and halfs concerning himself in this Controversie is to be adventured to gratifie a hasty proposal upon his changing his way of proceeding In the mean time That your Majesty may not be under the least prepossession by what the Duke hath represented with heat and sharpnels against the said Earl he doth humbly offer to Consideration That though the Duke appear before your Majesty as a Representer the said Earl cannot but look upon him as a Petitioner the Title by which all Subjects that complain Address to your Majesty and for want of which he hath observed many Suitors rejected with their Requests And therefore your Majesty is desired to be informed in the first place by a deduction of all that hath passed between the Duke and the Earl in this Affair which is as followeth The Book complained of was written about two years ago by meer Accident of the Earl of Castlehaven's sending his Printed Memoirs to the Earl then at Blethington in Oxfordshire where having read the same and conceiving the English and Protestants to be unjustly dealt with therein and the Irish foul Cause professedly justified though the most Execrable Rebellion that ever was in the World the Earl could not digest the same but upon a bare Old Memory without help of Writings or Notes immediately put pen to paper and the Eighth of July wrote a Letter to the said Earl of Castlehaven which he believes his Lordship hath yet to shew tho' when it appeared afterwards in print