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B02748 The doting Athenians imposing questions, no proofs. In answer to their questions and most apparent mistakes, about the people commonly called Quakers and their profession. This being our 5th. answer to their Mercuries of the 7th. 11th. and 14th. of June last. 1692 (1692) Wing D1954A; ESTC R174714 7,803 2

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The Doting ATHENIANS Imposing QUESTIONS no PROOFS IN ANSWER to their QVESTIONS and most apparent MISTAKES about the People commonly called QUAKERS and their Profession This being our 5th Answer to their Mercuries of the 7th 11th and 14th of June last 1 Tim. 6. 4. Doting about Questions and Strifes of Words c. WHAT Justice or Fair-Dealing can we expect from Persons vainly puft up by their Fleshy Minds You pretended Athenians have made too much haste to make good speed you are too precipitant and preposterous in your Proceedings against us to do us right you are so Credulous to take Things on trust against us as thereupon to Charge Sentence Condemn and Brand us with Infamy before any Judicial Tryal First you pass Sentence on us and then heap Questions upon us to find out Matter against us You ground much of your Charge in your Mercury of June the 14th upon a Book called Sweet Sips of Spiritual Wine in which there is a small Tract called John the Divine's Divinity Printed by Giles Calvert which you call a famous Book of theirs meaning the Quakers and you believe one of the first ever Printed by any of their Gang and is indeed you say the most regular and fairest System of Quakerism you yet ever saw And from this you think you have given us a very fatal Blow but herein you are more Credulous than Discreet for that Book is none of our's it is none of the Quaker's either in Title or Style You should first have better Inform'd your selves whether the Author was a Quaker and an approved Writer among them before you had Charged us with the said Book seeing much of your Charge is taken out of it Not only to prove your false Charge That we deny the distinct Existence of the Soul after Death but also That the Quakers deny Angels Spirits Heaven and Hell you quote the said Book Sweet Sips c. which you refer to many times over from whence you Charge us not only with denying Angels Spirits Heaven and Hell but say You 'l prove we assert the contrary for which you quote Sweet Sips again But after you have given your Charge you do but very poorly beg the Question viz. Let 'em if they can shew us any of their Writers wherein any of these are asserted as distinct Substances or distinct States or Places for Punishments or Rewards after this Life is ended However to this purpose we have often asserted as really believing both distinct Angels and Spirits as to their Beings or distinct Spiritual Substances as also Heaven and Hell as distinct States and Places for Punishments and Rewards after this Life is ended We never knew these doubted of among us but often Preached and Affirmed in Words and Writings But how do you prove we assert the contrary For this you quote Sweet Sips chap. 22. viz. The Angels are Intituled Ministring Spirits c. the Mystery of it is this a Figure of God's many Blessings also gracious Providences Thus Jacob called his Brothers favour an Angel Fallen Angels are bad Spirits termed Devils i. e. The Authors of Evil this is a Figure of God's Mind concerning the Mystery of Iniquity they may also type out cross Dispensations p. 50. Divine Love is Heaven Hell is dreadful Apprehensions of God Sin is the Brimstone of this Hell the Discoveries of God are Heaven and Hell his Gracious and his Wrathful Presence there is no other Place And thus you say You have proved all your Charge whence it follows say you as you asserted That Quakerism is really a Compendium of all Heresies thus you But stop you run too fast How have you thus proved all your Charge against the Quakers What by falsly Intitling them to an Author a Book which was never theirs nor Authorized by them As we presume you will never prove your Sweet Sips to be the Quakers And yet you wrong that too for therein Angels are confessed That they were Created good pure Spirits chap. 22. Your saying You have thus proved all your Charge is so notoriously false that it makes us take the less notice of the rest of your groundless Accusations in your Paper being minded to try you in this if you 'l be so Ingenuous as to retract this your Authority as well as your other Falshoods Charged as that of the Soul 's Sleeping and that gross Lye against John Whitehead When you have Charged us with Denying the Resurrection of the Body this Untruth you contradict your selves by what you place on us from your Author whom you Inticle us to That the being risen with Christ is the first Resurrection and there is a second Resurrection of the Body when the Natural shall be made Spiritual and 〈◊〉 Mortal Immortal But your Instance That G. Whitehead 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 hundred People plainly acknowledged That he did not believe his 〈◊〉 ●ould rise again after Death In this you are misinformed those 〈◊〉 not his Words But that he did not believe his Body should be the 〈◊〉 ●●at it now is a Natural Earthly Body but a Spiritual Heavenly 〈◊〉 ●ccording to 1 Cor. 15. 37 38 40 44. 〈…〉 Charge That they i. e. the Quakers deny the Divinity of 〈…〉 is also utterly false As it is also That they deny his Humanity 〈…〉 Christ's Manhood or his being Man which we never 〈…〉 After you have unduly passed your severe Sentence and Condemnation upon us the People call'd Quakers and what you falsly term our Opinions and as falsly pretend to have proved them all you are fain to impose Questions on the same Subjects charged being very inquisitive for a distinct Answer to your ten Questions though we find they amount rather to three times ten several being crowded together in one that by your doting in Questions you might find Proof if you could for your unproved previous Charge unduly exhibited but divers of your Questions appearing both Unlearned and in Terms Unscriptural as well as Impertinent to affect us or our Principles we have Power in point of our Christian Liberty not to accept but shun such unlearned ones and since you have so severely prejudged and condemned us all before Tryal as Hereticks blasphemous Idolaters c. we may justly supersede your Sentence and call you in Question for the same We have as much right to Catechize you as you us and as Men we are not bound to answer your Interrogatories after you have Condemned us but as Christians we condescend to give you a better Answer than your Questions or you either have merited from us Quest 1. Whether you do not all positively deny the Bible to be the Word of God Answ We do not deny the Holy Scriptures therein contain'd to be the Words of God but question where they positively term the Bible the Word of God Pray answer by plain Scripture seeing Christ is therein called the Word of God and in the beginning was the Word and the Word being often mentioned with respect to that Divine