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A77969 Truth (the strongest of all) witnessed forth in the spirit of truth, against all deceit: and pleading in righteousnesse its owne cause, to the understanding of the simple, against a very great number of lyes, slanders, perverting of the Scriptures, contradictions and false damnable doctrines, held forth by the Independants. And in particular by one John Bunion, (one of Gogs Army) in two severall bookes put forth by him, against the despised scattered people called Quakers. And is a reply unto his second book, called A vindication, &c. wherein what was wanting in his former of fulfilling wickednesse is now appeared; by his adding sin unto sin, against God and against his owne soule. And this is to cleer the truth from above 100 of John Bunions foule dirty lyes and slanders: by a friend of the truth as it is in Christ Jesus; and not as it is in mens carnall apprehensions, Edward Burrough. Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662. 1657 (1657) Wing B6051; Thomason E910_3; ESTC R207500 55,009 70

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TRUTH the Strongest of all Witnessed forth in the Spirit of Truth against all DECEIT And Pleading in Righteousnesse its owne cause to the understanding of the Simple against a very great number of lyes slanders perverting of the Scriptures contradictions and false damnable doctrines held forth by the INDEPENDANTS AND In particular by one JOHN BUNION one of Gogs Army in two severall Bookes put forth by him against the despised scattered People called QVAKERS AND IS A REPLY Unto his second Book CALLED A VINDICATION c. Wherein what was wanting in his former of fulfilling wickednesse is now appeared by his adding sin unto sin against God and against his owne soule And this is to cleer the Truth from above 100 of John Bunions foule dirty lyes and slanders By a friend of the Truth as it is in Christ Jesus and not as it is in mens carnall apprehensions EDWARD BURROUGH LONDON Printed for Giles Calvert at the Black-spread-Eagle near the West end of Paules 1657. TO THE READER FRIEND THOV hast here a very great number of * lyes and slanders and unjust dealing and false doctrines c. Laid open and reproved in plainesse and not in hypocrisie and of contention there is not suddenly an end being begun therefore seeing the unbelieving heart of John Bunion cannot believe me when I speake the truth in justnesse nor may I beleive his lies and slanders uttered in hypocrisie what is laid downe is left to thee soberly to judge of betwixt us while we are both silent And this know the one is a Deciever and the other is as a Deceiver yet true and thus may thou weigh things equally First considering of many lyes and slanders truly charged upon him in my first of which he is guilty from his first and he hath not at all cleared himselfe of them in his second which an honest man ought to have done before he had gone further for I soberly desired witnesse of what he said But be hath added to the number of his wickednesse and not proved justly what he hath said against us And it is not for his sake for little hopes I have of his conversion but the rather that he will be hardened nor for my owne sake as if I were unsatisfied concerning him that this is written but to undeceive the simple of what his wickednesse may falsly suggest into the minde as if all were truth that he spoke if his wickednesse were not reproved Againe Consider that I have cleared the truth of my words which he hath wrested and thereby taken occasion against the truth by answering his owne conceptions and not my plaine words so my words which are words of truth being defended all his reply is made void So I have not so much desired to answer every particular of his words as to vindicate my owne words and the truth from his false slanders and accusations London 12. month 1656. E. B. TRUTH the strongest of all Witnessed forth in the Spirit of Truth Against all DECEIT O HOW hath Satan filled the hearts of men in this generation as well as in former ages with envy against the truth and with wrath against the way thereof and how hath he filled them with craft and deceitfull subtilty to offend the way of the Lord in all manner of persecuting and evil speaking against it openly and also in secret gainsayings in hipocrisie and how are men armed to defend themselves in their naughtinesse laying hid under the vaile of fair speeches and fine arguments using the Scripture in the words of mans wisedome to oppose the power and life of righteousnesse even as the Scribes and Pharisees of old how zealous were they in their observances and in fulfilling the Commands and traditions of their fathers having set themselves in Moses seat professing Moses and the Prophets words and yet persecuted Christ the life and substance of Moses and the Prophets and as it was then so is it now how are Christs words and the Apostles professed and preached by such who are enemies o the life of Christ made manifest in mortall flesh and secretly opposing the doctrin of the Apostles who said Know ye not that Christ is within you except you be Reprobates But the mighty day of the Lord is come and comeing wherein all hearts are made manifest and the secrets thereof discovered and the light is springing out of darknesse and the Sun is breaking thorow the clouds to give light to all men and Nations and the great whore which hath decked her selfe in divers colours to deceive shall be made naked and bare and the day of great striving is come and now every man stands up for his interest to defend his possession for the just Judge standeth at the doore to enquire by what Law every man holds his Inheritance and he findeth many holding their Religion and Profession by the traditions of men only and not by the Revelation of Christ Jesus in them and such he will dispossesse though they strive against him yet all is in vaine and though they plead Antiquity yet that will not prevaile and in that the day of great striving is come betwixt the Lamb and his followers the Draggon and his followers every one of that Party appearing with such weapons as the Devil hath armed them withal and with such Armour as the wicked hath they come appearing under divers colours to fight against Zion yet under one Head and Prince of darknesse and unto one Purpose even that the seed of Jacob may be rooted out and that the way of truth may not prosper that then the wicked may goe on in their wickednesse without reproofe and ungodlynesse may be hid under hypocrisie and above all other means that is used at this day to keepe up the Kingdome of the Devil and to offend the Kingdome of Christ this is Cheife striving against the light of the world opposing it and denying it and by crafty arguments and cunning speeches seeking sutable Scriptures as they suppose to ground their false arguments upon against this very thing that the light of Christ is given to every man that comes into the World or that the light which convinceth and Reprooveth every man of sin within him is not the light of Christ nor worthy to be taken notice off but naturall and such like and no way sufficient to life and salvation if the unjust men persecute it is such as walke in the light of Christ Jesus that cannot fulfill the wills and customes of men and so are not of the World but contrary to it in all its wayes and workes which are evil and if the wise men of the World make any argument it is against the light with which Christ lightneth every man that comes into the World so that all the envy of the Devil whether under this or that colour and appearance is against the light of Christ Jesus and them that walke therein and if the light be but denyed and not balieved in
nor regarded then may the Devil have whole Possession of the heart of man and if the light of Christ Jesus within be owned and loved and walked in then Christ is received and there the Devil is dispossessed and therefore it stands him upon above all other things to possesse people against the light within which Christ hath given that then he may not be discovered in the heart but may keepe all his goods in peace and have quiet Possession in his habitation Well be it so though all men of that Kingdom doth gainsay the light of Christ by this or that way of wickednesse yet it is precious unto us and I cannot but earnestly contend for it against all gainsayers and yet strives not for mastery to our selves nor to exalt any thing of our selves but only the Lord and his truth which he hath made more deare to us then either life or name or liberty and though so it be that this way be spoken evil against every where yet the Lord owneth it and us who are faithfull therein in the presence of our enemies to the confounding of the wisdome of this world and whereas John Bunion hath formerly set himselfe divers wayes to oppose the truth under the account of his great zeale against error but especially in a Booke sometime since put forth by him thinking thereby to offend the way of righteousnesse and now a second time hath appeared with a defence upon his former called A Vindication c. Of the former and his defence is more to the laying open his folly and to the uncovering of his blindnesse and wickednesse then his first offence given by him which caused me to write in short four sheets of paper to clear the truth from what he had spoken against it And now having again a second time appeared in many words without knowledge yet in great zeale hath brought forth many things reprovable even lyes and slanders and evil speeches in abundance yet with great pretence of holynesse and sobernesse and he hath not only helped me but the truth which is my cheife and moving cause that the truth may be clear of this my second Reply unto him and not for my own sake in any thing for I more prize to be accounted a foole and dispraysed in the world then to be honoured thereby and when iniquity shall come to an end and transgression shall be finished his shall be the Kingdome and the Inheritance of Rest eternall that hath kept himselfe clean and pure from a lying and slanderous tongue and who hath done righteously and fulfilled the will of God For it is not every one that saith Lord Lord that shall enter into the Kingdome but he that doth the will of the Father which is in heaven and in that day when the Booke of all consciences shall be opened and every thing brought to judgement then shall the light in every ones conscience answer the Lord in the justnesse of his dealings and even then if not before shall this John Bunion know the light in all mens consciences is of force when he shall be judged and then shall he see he hath wronged the Lord and dealt evil against his own soule in speaking evil of what he hath not known and in giving false judgement of what he hath not understood and till that day I leave him without praying for fire to devoure him only may reprove his lyes errors contradictions and false dealing and clear the truth from his false Charges and only to the most cheifest things whereof he accuses us in short I may Reply And whereas thou saist There is one that hath ventured to stand up against the truth and hath published a booke in which there is a great number of Heresies cunningly ●ented by him and also many things there falsly Reported of thee To which I answer that same Booke published called The true saith of the Gospel contended for c. Shall clear it self from this reproach that I have not stood up against any one truth or uttered any Heresie or lye against thee * but in that Booke did witnesse forth the truth against many things falfly layd down by thee against the Quakers and that same Booke with sobernesse read without partiality and prejudice doth clear it selfe from these false aspersions and prove thee a lyer herein and I leave it to the honest hearted to judge who reads that book while I with patience and not seeking any revenge doe bear thy reproaches counting them greater riches then thy praise And farther thou saist Only by the way thou thinkest good to mind me of my cloathing my selfe with the words of the Prophets and Apostles c. Answ. true enough by the way out of the truth and out of Christ who is the way hath thou spoken this and so hath uttered in falsehood and by or out of the way neither have I cloathed my selfe and yet am I cloathed with the life of the Prophets and Apostles and not only with their words nor do I fight against them though thou falsly say it but bears witnesse unto them in doctrine and conversation and against thee all the seed of evil doers and take backe thy own words to thy self who art in that generation which hath the words but art without the * life in the evil life Farther thou saist I have broken out with a false Testimony of John Burton and thee at which thou seemest to be much offended that I should say thou art joyned with the broken Army of Magog and hath shewed your selves in the defence of the Draggon against the Lamb c. Reply what needest thou be troubled at this have I not spoken the truth and have I not said well herein for you are joyned with all the wicked in the Nation and as lyars and swearers and drunkards persecutes with violence and as the proud and wanton are filled with scorning and singing wicked rimes in the streets even so also are you come in Print and all of you against them called Quakers the drunkards and swearers they beate them and abuse them and cast them as for dead into diches with stoning in the high wayes and in the streets beating downe with staves and the wanton they sing there rimes in scorne in Alehouses and Taverns against them and thou and thy fellowes and generation appeares in open Print slandering and reviling them yet in pretence of zeale for God and all this you doe against us who have the witnesse that we are of God and that the whole world lyes in wickednesse and now are not you all joyned as an Army and doe you not shew your selves in the defence of the Draggon * what wrong I have done you let the upright in heart judge whether I have given false testimony against you or no and though you have noted it for a lye in the Margent yet the lye is thy own who hath gain-said the truth herein and called it a lye and I have
in thy book though I have written against the book for though thou speak Christ words and the Apostles words yet thy voyce is the strangers and thy voyce I deny what ever words thou speakes and is not befooling my selfe and here I could justly end my discourse and what is said is sufficient to manifest thee and me to the honest Reader And thus far thy weapons of slanders are broken and thy refuge of lyes are layd-wast and this also is cast by as our spoyled prey of Babylons treasure and trampled upon and know that we are of God and he that is of God heareth us and to our God shall all bow and before him tremble And whereas thou seemes to be greatly offended and stumbling very much at my answers to thy Queries because thy carnall conceptions is not satisfied nor thy vaine minde gratified having as thou thinkst great occasion against me thereby which causes thy mouth to be opened in vapouring words aloft against the simplicity of the Gospel not understanding my words for the things of the Kingdome of God is a parable to thee and sealed from thee never to be known in the reason in which thou judgest But in short thus I Reply I did not purpose to answer fully to them to feede any mans wisedome with my knowledge of the things of Gods Kingdome for the Queries were not fully directed to the Quakers so that quench thy anger and according to my answer goe seeke a further answer or else be thou still unsatisfied from them who are led with a spirit of delusion for such a direction requires no full answer from me nor any of us who are in the truth and not in the delusion neither did I purpose nor doe I at any time to answer fully to such things are directed in a great part to others I am not a servant especially to them that are led with a spirit of delusion to fulfill thy will But yet the short answers that I gave which was not in the behalfe of delusion but for the truths sake I still own though thou cannot understand them but products many bad lying wicked consequences from them and my purpose was not to feed thy foolish wisedome in answering nor to satisfie thy reason to receive praise from thee or any man for so I know it must be in hearing and seeing thou must not perceive nor understand who art of the generation hardened and in parable is the Kingdome of heaven unto thee and I rejoyce the rather in being a stumbling to thee in that state wherein thou standest then that I should have gratified thee for I seek not nor receives honour from man in what I doe but is covered from the worlds knowledge and know this if thou cannot receive the Kingdome of Heaven as a little leaven thou shalt never know it But yet how wicked art thou in this also though not understanding me in what I said yet so fouly wronging me with above 30. false charges and slanders from my words which thou reaches not the knowledge of so it will be enough Reply to sum up thy lyes and send them backe to thee to seeke them out and an evidence for them and the Queries and my Answers shall stand as they are to be judged of by honest men while we are both silent in our own cause they are to be seen at large in my first Book The true faith of the Gospel contended for c. in the 26 27 28. pages And whereas further I speake at the end of my Answers of Christ within the hope of glory and said it is that mistery which long hath been hid from ages but now is made manifest and declared and though the wise of this world cannot receive it but speaks evill against it yet it is deare unto us and so much more precious because despised by such as him and such things are a testimony to us and against you viz. our enemies c. As in my 29. Page of my first may be seen and most wickedly this or part of it he calls bablings and saies he passes by it O horrible impudency what marvell that he should so belye me when as he hath called the very Scripture truth spoken forth in righteousnesse bablings and these things I leave the Reader to Judge of and all his lyes thrown upon me impudently and consider what ground this man hath from my answers to be seen in my first booke to broach out and belch out such a number of lyes and slanders in 5. sides of paper not any one of them charged against me falsly were spoken by me or ever in my thought to speake or ground given by any of my words for such productions as it is seen what lodges in the heart of such a fellow even desperate wickednesse who is without any shame or honesty who dare utter such things against the upright who hates not his enemies but while I am clear in the sight of God from all his false slanders I matter not what John Bunion say of me who is as a man given up to wickednesse who in lesse then a sheet of paper hath uttered 30. lyes or more which I may particularly manifest before he can find evidence a great wickednesse can this mans converts be good while himself is unconverted is he a minister of Christ for shame let it not be told so well I beg not vengeance against him but leaves my answers to be read who wil clear me from his lying consequences most wickedly conceived and as wickedly uttered By one of Gogs Army against a member of Jesus Now I come to reckon up his damnable Doctrines and errors which are contrary to the truth as will manifestly appeare to him that is spirituall some of them damnable without comparison John Bunian said That Christs second coming is not his coming in Spirit for his coming in Spirit is no coming He saith this or part of it is a lye made of him by me when as severall witnesses doth testifie in righteousnesse that those very words were spoken by him in Paules steeple-house in Bedford towne May 23. 1656. as is witnessed and yet this man is so impudent that he denyes what he spake or is ashamed of his words and so would cast the lye upon me who is cleere and the wickednesse lyes at his door and whereas he would prove that the second coming of Christ is not his coming in Spirit I say I will not begg him to believe it but as he believes so be it unto him and all that he saith doth not prove but that Christ promised and fullfilled to his Disciples that he would come againe to them mark againe is a second time If any man hath an ear let him hear And then he saith he will not trouble himselfe to lay this to my charge in that it was said of him Christs coming in Spirit is no coming it may be he repents of what he hath said being better considered
dealt justly with thee in the sight of God and all that know him and when the booke of thy conscience is opened thou shalt also confesse to this thing when thou standest condemned with them with whom thou art now joyned against us who have the testimony that we are of God and worshippers of the Father in the spirit and truth and my words were spoken by the spirit of the Lord and that in thy conscience shall witnesse them in the day of the Lord though now thou Opprobriously say * here are flung into the wind And whereas thou seemesto be greatly offended that I should say parte of the first booke is a Corrupted grain of Babylons treasure c. But have not I spoken the truth herein also when I say I have numbred up part of your work and this is the sum thereof that part which I have numbred viz. your lyes and false reproaches against the Quakers is a corrupted grain yea and of Babylons treasure too I am not ashamed of my words though thou would defend your worke by saying Your discourse was of the Birth Righteousnesse death blood c. And of the second coming of the son of Mary c. To which I say these things and the knowledge of them by the spirit of God is not counted by me Corrupted nor of Babylon though now I answer as in my last the words I own but thy voice I deny and knowes it to be the voice of the stranger and for this saying ha I not nor never shall have any burthen upon my Conscien●e though thou would say it but 't is cleared in the sight of God even though I say all that thou speakest I deny or thy speaking of any thing of the Kingdome of God with thy lying spirit And whereas thou art offended that I should say you are described to be the flock of Ishmaell and of the seed of Cain whose line reacheth to the murdering Preists c. And thou saist I am very sensorious and utterest many words without knowledge c. Reply Yea your words doth describe your nature for by your voice I know you to be none of Christs sheepe and accordingly I judge in just judgement and in true knowledge and doe not falfly sensure nor utter words void of knowledge and my words shall be witnessed by you in the day of the Lord Envy is of Cains nature and seed and in that you are and lyars are of Ishmaels stock and you are guilty of that let the sober Reader try and you are among the murdering Preists party and close joyned to them in doctrin and practise especially in writing against us Now no wrong have I done you that thou needest to be troubled and seekes to cover your selves by thy faire words in thy answer as if you were righteous but all will not hide you your works make you manifest to be no lesse then what I have said of you Then farther thou art hot against me in that I say you are found enemies to Christ revealed in his Saints and this thou hast noted it in the Margent for false but thou dost not well to be angry it is true what I have spoken thy own words doe prove it in saying there was nothing in thee to be taken notice of this was a denying of Christ within and such as deny him are found enemies to him within So the lye is thy own who hast denyed truth let the wise Reader judge and thy many words in a pretending answer will not cover you from the guilt of what I have charged upon you and not falsly and what I have said hitherto is true and not false though thou fainingly say thou marvels I should be so over-seen as to utter so many false things in so little a space nay my understanding was open when I wrote forth that book at which thou art so tormented that it hath caused thee some months travellin anguish to cleare thy selfe and yet cannot be at rest and thou art over-seen who resists the reproofe of thy wickednesse Then thou goes about to justify thy brother Burtons words who wickedly laid it down as thou immpudently goest to justify it who joyned in his accusation and slanders Quakers with Ranters and this would thou justify we are one against my just answer which denyed them in the fourth page of my first where I said between Quakers and Ranters there is no more union c. then betwixt light and darknesse good evil and that answer stands untouched by thee and is true and in justifying John Burtons wicked slander thou art more wicked in comparing the Principles and saist it will appeare they agree in one c. But what a wicked course hast thou taken to clear him by adding thy own wickednesse let all consider that reads for doe not I desire in plainnesse in my first in these words if thou dare lay * the Charge only upon the Quakers write in plainesse and bring testimony of thy accusation and thou may receive a farther answer but not a word in plain answer to this is returned though soberly desired neither time nor place nor witnesses evidenced to clear your selves of your first slanders which had been more honest then to have slandered afresh passing over your first but it seemes you cannot cleare your selves in honesty and so fulfill your wickednesse by adding to your lyes and slanders as thou impudently doth in thy comparing the principles of the Ranters with the Quakers And to save thy brother from shame guilt thou art fallen thy self into the snare justly may be judged to exceed him in wickednesse and thou saist with shame to thy selfe I repeat it that the * Quakers will not own Christ without them but thou brings not testimony of this asserion til then be thou reckoned and shall be plauged for a lyar which will be for ever for we own him as he is ascended far above all heavens who fills all things yea and without us too so that instead of proving the first false accusation thou adds another slander and the * second thing wherein thou compares them is unsound for though we witnesse yea thousands yet we need no man to teach us but as the anointing with in us as the Saints did 1 John yet we cry not down the ministry of God but ownes it and cryes down such by whom people cannot come to the knowledge of the truth though they be ever learning who Preaches for hire and goes for gifts and rewards and loves the wages of unrighteousnesse and this was the Apostles doctrin as it was ours and is no heresie though thou may so judge it for we say by the same spirit as the Apostles did they that are of God heareth us who are in the truth which is but one and there is not another and the Apostles which witnessed the Saints needed no man to teach them did exhort them and yet did not condemn principles by