Let him find me says J. Faldo such a Scripture and I will be bound to turn Quaker I perceive the Man thinks he can turn Quaker much at the rate he can Pray I mean when he will but I will tell him so much that it is as hard a Task for him to turn True Quaker as to be a true primitive Christian a thing most difficult to be sure But to his Quibble about But that J. Parnel has told a I willfull Untruth in saying the Baptism is but One suppose it will be allow'd that there was one Baptism in the same sense that there was one Lord one Faith Now if there is but One Lord One Faith as it is to be supposed J. Faldo believes why should it be so Criminal to say there is but One Baptism If saying there is one Lord and one Faith be synonimous or equivalent with affirming that there is but one Lord and one Faith I cannot see how it should be an Untruth to say that there is One Baptism is one and the same thing wish our saying there is but One Baptism In short if there is more then One Baptism because the Apostle does not say there is but one Baptism then there are more Gospels Lords and Faiths because the Apostle did not say there was but one Gospel but one Lord and but one Faith consequently there may be many Gospels Lords and Faiths as well as Baptisms § 7. Enough of this Weakness His Strength follows Water-Baptism is the Sign the Baptism of the Spirit something but not all signified Now to call the Thing signifying and signified by the same Name doth not make them Two of that Name no more then there were two New Covenants because both the Matter contained in it Hebr. 8. 10. and Circumcision the Sign Gen. 17. 13. are called the Covenant I shall grant to him that the Thing signifying and signified are sometimes called by one and the same Name as Baptism But when distinguisht by Water and Holy Ghost I hope nothing that is not as blind or hardened as J. Faldo if yet he himself will say that therefore they are but One Baptism Christ himself distinguishes betwixt John's and his Baptism and himself and his Baptism And frequently his Apostles yea the Baptist himself seem'd to take all Occasions whereby to let People know that his Baptism was but that of Water and that the Baptism of Christ was not of Water but of the Holy Ghost as the Scriptures in the Margent plainly prove So in the Word Circumcision compounded of the same Letters and Syllables let it be used to express that of the Body or the Flesh or that of the Heart in Spirit Yet it is to be hoped that none will conclude there were not Two Circumcisions and so Two Jews the one Inward and the other Outward Though now he is no more a Jew that is one Outwardly neither is that Circumcision which is outward in the Flesh but he is a Jew which is one Inwardly and Circumcision is that of the Heart in the Spirit and not in the Letter whose Praise is not of Men but of God § 8. And should we grant him what he desires as to the same Name being applicable to the Sign and the Thing signified yet Weak and Wretched must his Sophism appear to all clear-sighted Readers For if therefore the Baptism of Water and of the Spirit are One because the same Word is applicable to the Sign and the Thing signified and in that sense they are both of them One Baptism Then by just Consequence must the Circumcision outwardly in the Flesh and the Circumcision of the Heart in the Spirit be One because the Word of it self is equally applicable to both and Consequently they are both of them One Circumcision And here but must and will be allow'd us What Jew Living could have reason'd better for the Continuation and Perpetuity of Circumcision But because he has said nothing here for Baptism more then what may be said for Circumcision and that Circumcision is utterly exploded of the Christian Religion as a Sign whose Signification is come and therefore no more a Sign our Assertion of the One Spiritual Baptism of Fire and the Holy Ghost as onely upon the same Fundation proper to Christ's Kingdom doth remain fix and Immoveable against all the Batteries of our Adversary CHAP. XVI The Supper he says we deny not deny'd but fulfil'd The Scriptures Consulted No Perpetuity prov'd That it was a Sign And that Signs were done away in Christ demonstrated The present Practice in the Case not primitive Our Faith left with God in the Matter § 1. BUt the Quakers he says disown the Ordinance of the Lord's Supper to be now a Gospel-Ordinance for which he cites J. Parnel a Young Man often in his Eye now dead as he was grieveously so to J. Faldo's Brethren the Independents at Cogshall in Essex who by unparallel'd and never to be forgotten Cruelties murder'd him as may be seen in my Second part of our serious Apology pag. 185. 186. 187. His words as he quotes them are these For the Bread which the World breaks is Natural and Carnal so also the Cup which they drink and here is no Communion but what is Outward and Carnal Shield of Truth pag. 13. Also W. Smith thus They Bread and Wine in the Lord's Supper are the Popes Invention His Primm pag. 39. To the first Citation I answer that the Bread and Wine being of an Outward Elementary Nature and Substance may with respect to what they signifie be very properly tearmed Natural and Carnal for so they are And the World that is those who are doing it upon meer Imitation and not from any Heavenly Commission they see no further and their Communion may well be said to be Natural Outward and Carnal To the second I do challenge J. Faldo to make it good and require it at his Hand in the View of the World to produce any such words out of W. Smiths Books and that he may not plead Mistake of Authors I will give him the Scope of all our Books Friends to prove that we ever call'd the Bread and Wine Christ blest the Invention of the Pope O ungodly Man What hast thou done that God should thus give thee up not onely to believe Lyes thy self but to endeavour to make others do the like Thy Book shall be a Milstone about thy Neck in the Day of the righteous and terrible Judgments of Almighty God We deny the Expression and lay the Slander at John Faldo's door § 2. But the Quakers main Objection says he is that Christ is come in Spirit to them and his Disciples were to do it in Remembrance of him till he came therefore this Precept doth not binde them J. Faldo pretends thus to answer But who would think that Christ in the Spirit was not come either in shedding it abroad miraculously as in the 2. of the Acts or as a
own'd according to Scriptures p. 157. CHAP. XIX Our Adversary's proposed three Scripture-Places are by us rightly applyed and his Charge is found untrue Christ is prov'd the true Light Comforter Creator and Redeemer Our Adversay's Objections examin'd and refuted His Triumph turneth to his Shame The true signification of the Word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 confirmed p. 166. CHAP. XX. Our Adversary's Charges deny'd His Proofs fail him The Quakers are no Idolaters and Quakerism no Idolatry We own and profess the only true God that made Heaven and Earth p. 191. CHAP. XXI Our Adversary at a loss to prove his Charge We own so much of the Resurrection as the Scriptures express more Curiosity Dangerous and Condemnable Eternal Rewards own'd by us J. Faldo's Book will prove it to him and our Tribulations to Us. p. 199. An Appendix being a Reply to that Last Part of his Book which pretends to Answer the First of my Spirit of Truth Vindicated c. p. 206. A Key opening a Way to every Common Understanding whereby to discern the Difference betwixt the Quakers Faith Doctrine and Practice and the Perversions and Traducings of their several Adversaries p. 236. J. Faldo's Key proved Defective p. 246. ERRATA READER THough this Civility of Excusing the Author from the Miscarriage of the Press be that which is both due in it self and alwayes acknowledged by Sober and Impartial Men yet having to do with a Generation of People resolved to our Ruin any way whose onely Clemency to the Printer is Cruelty to the Author and are therefore not weary of Excusing the one that they may the more Colourably Accuse the other I have endeavoured at a Correction of such Escapes as seemed to me in over-looking the whole Discourse most hurtful to the Sense For many Literal Mistakes want of due Points Points misplaced Transpositions or the like Impunctuality and Impropriety I bespeak my Excuse from thee If thou art Ingenuous thou wilt not deny it and if thou art not I shall the less concern my self in the Advantage taken Pag. Line Errors Corrected 6 32 Outward Christianity Outward Manifestation 11 28 Comparence Comparison 12 11 and but 23 19 had so had he so 39 17 Reconciliation reconciled 40 8 which who 47 17 want went  20 this his 50 19 for to 51 23 whatsoever whomsoever 68 27 lightned lighted 76 17 to be any c. 85 5 Words Word 88 21 to too 89 25 that Rest the Rest 93 3 our his 94 31 Temporal Temporary  34 Word God 95 16 high highly  25 129 124 96 6 Scriptures Scripture 107 16 God respoke God shall have respoken  17 made makes 109 5 Rich as Rich  6 which what  28 Hawking Hackny 116 9 Certainty Certainly 123 21 are is 125 29 all Conceivings all Self-conceivings 126 4 joyned enjoyed 127 24 pure Ware blot out 128 17 risen departed risen and departed 132 2 punctually punctual 139 5 I blot out 140 4 John ' s John 142 2 my the  13 with respect in Comparison 144 21 or and 146 8 to me self with my self  â—â— back â—â— back at us 152 15 could would 157 19 such too as such as  29 there with where with 158 10 as at 159 12 had has  23 else it was not or else it had not been 161 34 p. 72 77 p. 72 77 84 85 93. 164 1 answer'd consider'd  27 Matter Nature 165 17 Creco crew 168 8 of of our Principles 203 10 to too 209 14 I do and I do  30 when wherein 213 28 the gift of Spirit a Gift of the Spirit  31 not blot out 214 28 not Agents not prime Agents 217 3 the Truth of blot out 227 1 Creator Creation 229 34 reputed reputed him 230 4 due duly 239 7 is rightly is it rightly QUAKERISM A NEW Nick-Name for OLD Christianity BEING A Short and Round Answer to a Book Entituled Quakerism No Christianity c. CHAP. I. The Introduction Our Adversary's Definition of Christianity Defective True Christianity Stated Quakerism Mistaken by him It is proved True Christianity and a Quaker a Right Christian § 1. AMong many other Persons that have of late Industriously essayed the Mis-Representing the Quakers and their Religion overcasting the Sincerity of the One and darkning the Excellent Beauty of the Other by their Mists of Ignorance and Prejudice John Faldo though the Last has not been the Least concern'd § 2. I am truly Sorry to see that among the several Arguments some Men's Prudence render'd for Toleration that of giving Dissenters Liberty and they would War within themselves should be so amply verified by their Unchristian Irruption upon us disturbing those by Slanderous Pamphlets who would not be concern'd in their Heats But this Folly and Uncharitableness I am to tell the World lies not at the Quakers Door who seek Peace with all Men but some Restless Spirits among other Perswasions whose whole Food seems to turn into Contest and shew they can no more live without it then the Air they breath in What shall we do then Suffer their Slanders Detractions Additions and Down-right Abuses of us to pass Unanswer'd No for then we shall be concluded either Guilty or Vanquisht What then Why we will defend our selves with Truth and Moderation and that I hope with God's Assistance to do in this short Treatise to the Confusion of our Enemies and Renowning the Truth and Clearing our Innocence to the World § 3. The Author is pleas'd to call his Book Quakerism no Christianity A Title of more Reproach and Infamy then became a Christian-Man to give But let 's hear what he means by Christianity § 4. By Christianity we are not to understand all those Matters of Faith and Practice which Christianity doth obliege us unto A strange Definition of true Christianity For if to Believe and Do all Christianity requireth be not Christianity then there is something beyond all that Christianity requires to be believ'd and done that is Christianity else I understand nothing But saith he It takes in whatever is worthy in those Religions it hath superceded yea the very Heathens What then Is it not therefore Christianity Egregious Weakness What an Hair has he split but it flyes in his Eyes Is it not therefore Christianity because Christianity takes it in If Christianity takes in whatever is worthy in other Religions then since Christianity is Worthiness It self Comprehensive of whatever was in any degree Excellent among Jews or Heathens will it not follow That to Believe and Practise all that Christianity requires is Christianity unless we are to understand That Christianity does not require what was Worthy and Commendable among Jews or Heathens which he says we are § 5. This then does not make Christianity a Distinct Thing in kind from what was Worthy as he calls it that is Godly among either Jews or Heathen but that Christ did by his Visible Appearance benefit the World
QUAKERISM A NEW Nick-Name for OLD Christianity BEING An Answer to a Book Entituled Quakerism No Christianity subscribed by J. Faldo In which The Rise Doctrine and Practice of the Abused Quakers are Truly Briefly and Fully Declared and Vindicated from the False Charges Wicked Insinuations and utmost Opposition made by that Adversary With a KEY Opening the True Meaning of some of their Doctrine from that Construction which their Enemies Ignorantly or Enviously Affirm Report and Dispute to be theirs By one of them and a Sufferer with them in all their Sufferings William Penn. Behold I will make them of the Synagogue of Satan who say they are Jews and are not but do Lye Behold I will make them to come and Worship before thy Feet and to know that I have loved thee Rev. 3. 9. Printed Anno 1672. The Author TO THE READER HOwever our many sorts of Enemies may please themselves with their brisk Endeavours against us the Expectation they thence have of our Utter Overthrow especially some Independents Anabaptists and Socinians Be it known to the whole World Professor and Prophane our Confidence is in God for whose holy Truths sake we are as Men killed all the Day long and it is our Perswasion that many Thousands in these Nations have that Sense of us in their own Consciences which it is as impossible for the utmost Power or Artisice of our angry Adversaries to exstinguish as the Sun in the Firmament We matter not their Flourish Number Threat or Force though Gog and Magog are combin'd to seek our Ruin God that made the Heavens and the Earth the Sea and Fountains of Water hath them all in Derision and will not be wanting to assist us otherwise fore-lorn upon Earth in this juncture of close Attacque we waiting on him with that Divine Courage Wisdom and Patience which may enable us to surmount the Difficulty of the Work and through the Tribulations of our Day bring us to the Recompence of that Peace which is Eternal And indeed this is our Joy above all worldly things that the Lord is our Light and our Salvation we know it we experience it therefore whom should we fear Though all Sects seem met in one as a mighty Man of War to our Overthrow the despised Stripling by this great Goliah has a Sling and a Stone that however contemptible yet coming in the Name of the Lord will give this Giant 's Head a Victim to his Faith We know in whom we have believed and cannot be Cudgell'd Jeer'd Rail'd or Smooth'd out of our most Holy Faith who has God for its Father and Victory for its Off-spring A Birth unknown to the Bawling Pharisees of the Age nor can any but a Conquerour inherit Reader their Cries for Scripture Christ Fundamentals and the like are meer Pretences that make but up a Cloak to cover the Avaricious and Ambitious Ends of those leading Men in every Party that as deeply and vigorously prosecute our Ruin as a Jew doth Riches but the Reason is known to Almighty God Because the Quakers having been taught that Inward Heavenly Straight and Narrow Way to Life by an Internal Living Teacher they would say they srustrate all Hope of further Advantage the Ignorance of People in the things of God has hitherto benefited us withal by their most vehement Declaration to the World that no Man can be a Child of God who is not begotten of God and that no Man can be so begotten but by the Internal Operation of his Spirit to Wash Cleanse and Inliven the Mind to God-ward that this is the Deepest and most Excellent End for which Man was made the Law was given Prophets raised and Christ Came Lived Died Rose and Ascended That who know him not thus let into the Conscience in order to Purge it from Dead Works by the Destruction of that Power which product them to lead Captivity Captive and Raign as King Lord Judge and Law-giver are Enemies to the Cross of Christ and are at best but Carnal Historical and meerly Out-side Christians And this we standing by and they knowing full well with the fatal Consequence to their Designs that would attend the Universal Reception of this kind of Doctrine they seek to divert the Minds of tender and enquiring People by all the Hideous Devilish Falsities Satan's utmost Interest can furnish them withall deforming us with what Mire they can either borrow or invent hoping by such Besmeerings to make the Dogs fasten us for some Monstrous Beasts and chusing rather to Solemnize our Funeral with the Merriment of the Vulgar then suffer them to know us truly as we are lest their sober Conscience should enquire or be toucht with any the least Pitty for our so hard Dealing at their Cruel Hands Well! but for Your sakes O Impartial People am I this time engaged in Spirit to concern my self otherwise against my Will to take an Angry Scoffing Independent Priest in hand a Man I know not but by his Book and certainly an Ignorant Malicious and Scurrilous one too I perceive how unknown soever he is to me I am not to him and he has taken great Care to tell me so but mine own Concern would have suggested Silence to me for an Answer to his Uncivil Reflections for Arguments I cannot call them had not my earnest Desires been for the Vindication of that Truth Living upon all Occasions offer'd which the Grave will prevent me doing It is my Satisfaction God has made it my Lot and that of suffering from Detractors I esteem not the least part of my Crown for whose Holy Service he is my Witness I have long since chearfully sacrific'd my All of Contentment in this World and yet am not without a share from his peculiar Providence But let us see if the Quakers are those Miserably Deluded Wretches this Taunting Priest would represent us whose Triffling Quirks show the Emptiness of the Head and Airiness of the Mind from whence they came If we are what he asserts we are the worst of Men by how much we pretend to greater things but if it shall appear we are Scripturally Orthodox in some of those very Points for which he represents us Heterodox and mistaken by him in the rest I hope it will not be without Good Reason that I have entituld this short Discourse Quakerism a New Nick-Name for Old Christianity Reader the whole of what I have to desire from thee is an Impartial Mind in the Perusal of this Defence and Iust Explanation of our so much mis-represented Faith and Doctrine with that we dare adventure our Cause and without it there is no Truth so clear that Prejudice may not question it Let not the Multitude of our Adversaries be an Argument against our Cause Their Reviling ought not to pass for Reason nor Noise for Conquest With God Almighty and his holy Witness in thy Conscience do I leave the Issue of this Endeavour Be Serious be Considerate Farewel Thy Friend very ready to
out of that Sense in which they were given forth and to an other End then that for which they were given forth which proves to us that the Sense and not the Words shows the End of their being so given forth The Scriptures are a Sealed Book to all but those who know them by the same Hand which Originally gave them So that however Common they may be in the World they are Strangers to them that understand them not And though Old respecting the Time when they were revealed to the Saints yet New to every Age so that we assert not a Revelation of New Things but renewed Revelation of those Things God made former Ages Witnesses of otherwise Men are no more benefited by them And to be benefited they must be made ours by the Spirit which made them the Holy Ancients § 7. In short No Man can understand Spiritual Things but the Spiritually Discerning None can so be without the Inspiration of the Almighty or Spirit of God This is Scripture Now the Author of those Queries and J. Faldo also Denying Inspiration they consequently deny themselves to be Spiritually Discerning and for Men not Spiritual to Judge of Religious and Spiritual Matters much less to Write of them and bid their Writings go and throw down Self-Will and exalt the Truth is Vain and Idolatrous For the Scriptures themselves consider'd meerly as such are unable much less Writings founded on the Authority of Self Will for it is the alone Priviledge of God's Power and Spirit and no Writing whatever distinct from it can perform that Great and Mighty Work in Man § 8. And for Equaling our Writings with the Scriptures because we assert Inspiration and that what we have received and do declare of the Things of God is from the Revelation of his Spirit in our Hearts it is a Foolish Inference Truth was and is Truth all the World over and there was and is but One Way to come to it in all Ages I mean Inspiration The Scriptures are True and our Writings are True but will it therefore follow that we bring them upon a Vie Is this your Disputant But to determine this Case He should first have prov'd if he could what Power God gave to the Ancients and what to Us. How much of his Spirit to those Ages and what to This or else he loseth himself If he can Experimentally tell what were their Discoveries and Experiences and what are Ours he would be a Proper Judge But to think to run us down by Exalting them or to lessen what we are by Increasing their Praise is an old Artifice of the Devil and Sober Men will be more True to Themselves and Just to the Matter then so to censure us Cannot one Man be another Man's Brother and not the Elder Brother Doth it follow that because God has made what we know our own by his Holy Inspirations and Operations that therefore we put our selves upon the Comparison with the Ancients If true Christians fill up or add to Christ's Sufferings yet behind why should their Writings be shuffled out of all Relation to the Scriptures There may be a Relation where there is not an Equality much less a Preference and that we do assert against all Opposers § 9. But now let us see what he says of our setting the Scriptures beneath our own Writings and I will take his own Way to do it The Characters of the Scriptures given by the Quakers as says J. Faldo Characters of their own Teachers Writings and Sayings given by them Feeding Death with Death The Letter which Killeth Declar. from the Minist of the Word p. 7. The Voice of the Son of God was utter'd forth by him by which the Dead was rais'd F. H. Life of E. B. p. 20. Seeking the Living among the Dead J. Parn. Shield His Words Ministred Grace to the Hearers Fox jun. Life E. B. A Mistake for he dy'd before E. B. Reconciliation Death is a State without the Living Experimental Knowledg of God and his Work in the Heart And that State will talk of the Fame of Wisdom as saith the Scripture and that from the Scripture that is from or in the words of Scripture being Ignorant of the true Sense of the Scripture thinking there to have Life which Literal Knowledg it feeds upon and contents it self with where Nations have lain Apostatized from the Life of God and Power of Godliness The Letter Killeth that is the Literal Knowledge or rather their Imaginations from the Letter not being Divinely Inspir'd so as to understand it by which Men buoy and lift up themselves as Christians in the World and yet are Strangers to the inward sensible Work of God And it does Kill the Soul with respect to that true Life the Spirit and Power of God begets in all right Christians through whom the Voice of the Son of God has does and will utter it self to the Ends of the Earth for the Raising the Dead in Trespasses and Sins as that worthy Servant of God did which is now with his Lord. This disreputes not the Scriptures but those who make a wrong Use of them nor is there any Comparison betwixt Reading what God's Spirit requires immediate Hearing his Voice and being sensible of his present living Touches upon the Soul Writings are but holy Things at second hand a Living Ministry is the very Life Power and Spirit present and more immediate In short the Testimony of F. H. we prefer not before the Testimony Luke gives of holy Stephen We prefer the Scriptures before all Writings but before God's immediate Power we dare not do Paper Ink and Writing the same pag. 7. A Shield of the Truth Title J. P's Book Reconcil What 's this to the purpose We say that the Scriptures or the Writings not the Things written of mark that are Paper Ink and Writing which was spoken abstractively and upon a Comparison of them with the Word of God that was with God and was and is God over all blessed for ever Doth any Man think that we believe greater things of J. Parnel's Book By no means He call'd not his Book consisting of so much Writing Ink and Paper a Shield of Truth but that of which it treated was the Truth and with respect to the Controversial part of it as it was writ in Defence of the Truth it might be tearm'd a Shield in which sense the Scriptures by him urged have the upper-hand of his Writing by whose greater Authority with Men he abets and maintains the Doctrine contended for Shews you I suppose the Light your own Faces which the Scriptures cannot do Scorned Quak. accounts p. 20. A Spiritual Glass opened Smith ' s Cat. c. Morn Watch. Reconcil This can be no way hard to reconcile For when we say the Scriptures cannot show Men at all Times and in all States their Conditions but the Secret In-shining Light of God alone we are not so unworthy as to intend that any Book of
ours can No but with respect to that Principle which it directs to and is able to tell a man All that ever he did The only Spiritual Glass and which the best of Writings fall short of Precepts and Traditions of Men Morn Watch p. 18. Truth 's Principles Title of Crook ' s Book Reconcil It is deny'd that ever any such Words were ever spoken or written of the holy Scriptures as Precepts and Traditions of Men for they contain the holy Precepts and Traditions of the Word of God who is God himself it is base and unworthy thus to mince and mis represent our Writings For Truth 's Principles it signifies no more then the Declaration of what we believe as the very beginning of the Book expresly proves That Light is in the Scriptures prove that or tell me what one Scripture hath Light in it Lip of Truth p. 7. Light risen out of Darkness Title of Farnsworth's Book Reconcil There is not Light in the Scriptures that is there is not Living Spiritual Essential Light in the Scriptures or by way of Excellency but a descriptive and declarative Light they carry with them of the true Light the Author of those excellent Things therein mention'd In which Sense alone do we understand Richard Farnsworth's Title God having caused his Light to spring out of Darkness and he being then the Witness of it testified to the Truth thereof by a Declaration to the World of what he knew in the Matter He did not say That Book was that Light for so it had never been before him that writ it and the Writings of it and what Casualities the Book was or is liable to would fal upon the Light though he bears Record to an Everlasting Spiritual Light that shines Within where his Book cannot be But rather that he knew and witnessed the Visitation of the Day-spring of God's Eternal Light of Life to the World he writ his Book to give Notice thereof calling it by that Name because his Subject treated on doth manifestly import so much not that the Book was that Holy and Eternal Light § 10. Let it suffice to all impartial People that we only desire to make a Difference betwixt the Writings and the Thing written of and to the Eternal Overthrow of our Adversaries not wholly without their own Help since they think the Titles we give our Books very Glorious in themselves most unworthy of them but proper to the Scriptures whom they say we slight Let it be consider'd that not one of those Books is destitute of Scripture but is either generally in a Scripture Style or particularly defended by plenty of express Scriptures cited therefore of Necessity they the Scriptures must also partake with them in Common of those famous Titles And thus far have they the Preference that they are quoted on purpose to give the Truth we write of greater Credit what is that greater Credit but to be exactly agreeable with themselves so that our Adversaries Argument amounts to thus much They therefore prefer their own Writings before the Scriptures because they in all their Writings earnestly endeavour by numerous Quotations to prove what they write to be according to the Scriptures Behold Reader how at one Blow we fall The whole Chapter of this Fallible Errable Uncertain Busie Priest with respect to his Charge of our preferring our own Writings before the Scriptures § 11. But there remain two Things to be considered before we close this Chapter First his untrue Inferences Secondly his base Comparison of us with the Papists with Design to render us Odious to all that abominate their Idolatry First That the Scriptures both are and ever were Superfluous for the Light within as they pretend was alwayes fitted to Inspire every Man and Woman in the same Manner and to all Intents and Purposes as they were inspired and written Which how just and true it is we do reserve the Examination of it to God's Witness in the Conscience of the Reader Only this much I will say that though all Ability was and is in Him whom we declare to be the Light of all Mankind to Reveal the whole Mind of God yet in as much as very few in all Ages were so resigned up to the Holy Conduct of it as they ought to have been the Lord hath put it into the Hearts of Many to stir up the Negligent and Sloathful by a Reminding them with that Counsel in outward Writings or other Verbal Testimonies which they had long slighted in themselves that it might Instrumentally work upon them unfeigned Repentance and Conversion to God Therefore went God's Messengers forth Line upon Line and Precept upon Precept here a little and there a little But this I affirm and that in the Name of the Lord against the uttermost Strength of this Busie Priest that had those Prodigal◠in all Ages lived up to that Measure of Divine Light the Talent God gave to every Individual there had not been any such need for those Messages Wherefore the Occasion of them was not for want of any sufficient Gift from God but because of their own Rebellion Nay they were the Testimonies of the very Light of Christ in the Prophets and Apostles who were Heirs and Children of Light which they gave forth at divers Times in their several Ages as God pleased to move upon their Spirits with respect to Mankind so that still it was the Light within which so reprov'd and exhorted But suppose that the World had not been so Rebellious neither will it follow but that a slow Improvement of the Heavenly Gift might have occasioned many Divine Exhortations yea the Exercises of Mens Spirits as Davids for Instance in reference to the Spiritual Travel might for the Benefit of others have been written Let us suppose the highest State of Deliverance and Praise Men are capable of arriving at in this World yet Epistles of divine Love Experience heavenly Praises c. might have been transmitted from Church to Church as of the Flock and Family of God Therefore I utterly deny that the Perfection of the Light 's Teachings makes the Scriptures superfluous much less the general best Attainments that have been and now are in the World § 12. But that any Man so conceited of his Abilities as J. Faldo should so basely mistake Reason and abuse his Reader as to infer from the Ability of the Light in It self whether obey'd or not obey'd the Uselesness of the Scriptures or Testimonies of holy Men to the World is Ground for just Censure and severe Rebuke for it were to say that because a Master is of himself able enough therefore all Books are superfluous The Scripture don't argue the Insufficiency of the Light since so the Instrument would rise against its Principal but the Insufficiency of the Creature in which condition Line upon Line and Precept upon Precept may by the Light within good Men be given forth to invite and encourage Man to yield Obedience to the Conviction
Scriptures for What this is to his purpose I cannot understand to be sure it is for ours For W. D. is so far from making it Idolatry to live up to the Scriptures that he condemns their seeking for the true God where he was not to be found which sayes he they HAVE NO SCRIPTURE FOR As much as to say that they seek after God not according to Scripture and therefore are both Deceivers and Deceived Certainly this is a Miserable Farewel he takes of the first part of his Book and the Quakers Denial of the Scriptures that they should therefore affirm a Practice according to Scripture without immediate Inspiration Idolatrous because they assert such to be deceived who seek after God not according to Scriptures If so much Impertinency should fall from a Poor Quaker's Pen what Reproach Insolence and Triumph would there be But he has another Witness that by the Mouthes of two Witnesses his Charge against us may be not establisht but evidently disprov'd § 5. And this is Babylon the Mother of Harlots viz. to read and practice as the Saints did and the Apostles of the Scriptures of the New Testament and the Abomination of all Uncleanness W. Smith's morning watch p. 23. Forgery in the abstract as base black and dishonest as Man can be to Man What! rob him of Truth of a good Conscience foist in put out alter gloss pervert and what he pleaseth What make us lve against God his Servants Scriptures the Light within and our own Souls But I have the less need to make our Defence where his manifest Corruption of our Words accuse him and my Answer to the first part of his Charge in this Chapter has done it at large Only thus much give me leave to say That if Words urg'd upon one Subject shall be apply'd to another of a different Nature and that our Adversary can never prove his Charge against us but by abusing corrupting mis-rendering and interlineating our Words there is no Reason that we should much concern our selves in the Consequence of such Debates that Way of Demonstration will save us the Labour of a Vindication with all Sober Persons But he has not done with us yet § 6. I am e'en tired with searching the sulphureous Veins of the Pit and Mire of Quakerism the Root of all which is the Deified Light Within if you have not enough of this Smoak to satisfie you it is the Bottomless Pit it rises out of I will give you two Ebullitions more and then leave you satisfied or to get better Senses So amongst the words you find how the Saints in some things walked and what they practised and then you strive to make that thing to your selves and to observe and do it as near as you can and here you are found Transgressors of the Just Law of God who saith Thou shalt not make to thy self any Graven Image nor the Likeness of any thing And sayes J. Faldo it follows now what Difference is there in the Ground betwixt you and the Pope though in the Appearance there seems to be such a great Space I have been the more punctual in the Recital of this that I might show to my Adversary I will be just to him though he be most egregiously Unmanly with us He says That he is e'en tired indeed he has Reason for it though for nothing else For who ever got any thing by Beating the Air or Spitting against the Heavens The Sulphureous Pit of Quakerism we can in one sense allow and J. F. may be better acquainted with it For the Plagues which the never-dying Worm the sharp reproving condemning Light Within will inflict upon the Spirits of them who resist and gainsay the Truth are aptly resembled to a Sulphureous Bottomless Pit Sulphureous because of the Insufferableness of the Smoak A Bottomless Pit by reason of a Dismal Endless State and Condition of Wo. And I doubt not but J. Faldo has an Earnest of this for his Attempts against the Light and the Children of it This long Discourse is no more to us then the rest of his Trash that we have already rejected as his own Invention and base Perversion of our real Meanings Take W. Smith in his own Sense and Belief and all is well But receive him in J. Faldo's Disguize and truly we should not know him our selves He intended that all those real Experiments of other Persons of which the Scriptures are full talkt unexperimentally over by Unregenerated Spirits can be no wayes beneficial Nay that what Ideas or Notions they may have to themselves of the Holy Ancients Enjoyments while altogether unacquainted with them are but a kind of Images which their believing in and bowing to as indispensible Gospel-Truths is to be reputed nothing below Idolatry it self Yet far be it from us to say that to believe the Truth as declared in the Scriptures is Idolatry as well as that it is manifest Folly in any so to say or think of us when not only we are most careful and desirous of rendering what we believe purely Scriptural But I do declare that as no man can live the Life of the Scriptures without the Operation of that Spirit which gave them forth so to live up to what they do exhort and declare is the highest Pitch of Purity Man's Nature is capable of aiming at and attaining to § 7. He now intends to wind up his Discourse on the present Subject with a retrospective and contracted Argument of all those particular distinct Charges viz. They who deny the Scripture to be the Word of God equal their own Writings Sayings deny them to be a Rule of Faith and Life a Judge of Religious Controversies take Men off from Reading them deny the Scripture to be any Means whereby we may come to know God or Christ or our selves affirm them to be no Means whereby to resist Temptation and are Dangerous to be read deny them to be Profitable but as Experienced put Scripture and Spirit in Opposition affirm the Doctrines Commands and Holy Examples expressed in the Scriptures as such to be not at all binding to us hold it as the Sin of Idolatry to believe and live according to the Instructions and Holy Examples expressed in and by the Scriptures except we have them by immediate Revelation as the Apostles They who do all these things mentioned in the fore-going Particulars Deny the Scriptures But the Quakers do all these things therefore they Deny the Scriptures To which I return this Argument If to Deny the Scriptures to be the Word of God to make what Writings are given forth by the same Spirit relative of the Scriptures if not to prefer any Writings before the Scriptures nor equal them to the Scriptures if to deny the Scriptures to be most properly the General Rule of Faith and Life and Judge of Controversie and not the Spirit rather if not to take Men off from Reading the Scriptures for Instruction c. if
not to Deny them to be any Means whereby Men may come to know God Christ or our selves if to affirm them to be a Means whereby to resist Temptation not Dangerous to be read if to deny them to be read to any profit without the Assistance of the Spirit especially by such as know them not who are in a Rebellious and Unregenerate State if never to dare to put the Scriptures and Spirit in Opposition to each other if not to affirm the Doctrines Expressions and Holy Examples as such not to be binding Temporary Services excepted if to hold it as no Sin of Idolatry nor any other to Believe and Live according to the Instructions and Holy Examples expressed in and by the Scriptures If to do all these things so mentioned be not to deny contemn and Undervalue but rather to honour rightly instate and recommend the Scriptures then the Quakers who Believe and Do all this are not Denyers but Owners Asserters and Defenders of the Scriptures so far as they themselves desire to be Defended But we have largely prov'd that so to do is not to deny them and that the Quakers so hold therefore the Quakers are no Denyers but Maintainers of the True and Divine Authority of the Scriptures § 8. For his Comparison of us with the Papists though he has been so Cunning or Unjust rather as to quote their Authors and not ours and some passages we justly doubt it is Ridiculous and every way Unworthy of our Notice A meer Begging of the Question and by what we can guess design'd only to bring an Odium upon us He puts the Scriptures in the middle and the Quakers and Papists like the two Theeves upon the Cross on each side to discover their Harmonious Agreement against them which of them he makes to be him that should go to Paradice I know not but we have the upper Hand But we can never allow of the Comparison since the Papists place the Rule and Judgship in a Pope or General Council and the Quakers in the Eternal Unerrable Holy Spirit of God and consequently our Adversary is basely Irreverent to God that brings the Pope or a Council of Fallible Men upon a Comparison with his Infallible Spirit Nor if it were true would it be any thing against us since Protestants will not allow themselves to be therefore Papists because in several things they agree as about God Eternity Christ his Life Death Sufferings Resurrection Last Judgment and Eternal Recompence § 9. To conclude We dare leave it with God and all sober Men to judge how far J. Faldo hath abused us in giving in so black a Charge against us and traducing our Persons and perverting our Writings to prove it by base Characters fastned upon the one and false Inferences charg'd upon the other Which of themselves conspire the Overthrow of their Inventer and thus is he fairly turn'd off from the highest Round of the Ladder which he hath so unadvisedly adventur'd to mount And as it fares with some Notorious Malefactors he remains there Pendent as a Monument of his own Rash and Dishonest Undertakings to the Terror of all Passengers who shall happen to travel by this way of Controversie to the Land of Truth CHAP. X. He chargeth us with a Denial of all the Ordinances of the Gospel First in general then in particular His Proof of the first Invalid His great Disingenuity in wresting our words especially I. Pennington's § 1. THe Second part of his Book begins with the Quakers Denial of all the Ordinances of the Gospel as he will have it It is more then possible that we shall prove him ere we part not only to be a Denier of the True Gospel Ordinances but indeed an Introducer of another Gospel if such a thing may be But to his Charge First in general then in particular The Quakers deny the Ordinances of the Gospel in general by which sayes he I understand not those of Nature's Book nor what was revealed by Moses but those Ordinances which were commanded by Precept or prescribed by Example in the New Testament Now to prove what he says of the Quakers he cites G. Fox thus And we say He Christ hath triumphed over the Ordinances and blotted them out and they are not to be touched and the Saints have Christ in them who is the End of outward Forms G. Myst p. 52. In all which I find no Denial of Gospel Ordinances Nor were they so much as meant by him His Language is Scriptural For Christ did blot out the Hand-writing of Ordinances and he was to the Saints then and is to those now who rightly believe in him the End of all Meats Drinks Washings Days or any other Temporal Elementary or Figurative Worship for J. Faldo then to charge a Denial of all Gospel-Ordinances upon these words is to plead for a Legal Dispensation and Bondage to the Shadows of the Good Things to come thereby making Christ's coming of none Effect and Consequently introducing of another Gospel as speaks the Apostle besides that he basely wrests our Words § 2. Again But Pennington is so Cruel by that time he arrives to P. 38. of Unity that he says Such of the People of God as do not follow the Lord perfectly out of the City of Abomination VISIBLE WORSHIP but be found in any part thereof when the Lord cometh to judge her the Lord will not spare them I perceive that unless we will allow J. Faldo the Liberty of telling the World our Meaning or rather making his own to be ours his Essays come to nothing What Words can be sounder of their Kind Visible Worship being left out and which our Adversary unworthily puts in Are not People to follow God fully Strange Doctrine that he teacheth But grant him his Gloss alias gross Comment without Distinction and I know he do's his Work But we are not so easily to be overlaid We do declare that while Men have Bodies which are the visible Parts of Men and the Bodies of Men are conversably concern'd in Religious Worship as well as the Soul there will be there must be and there ought to be a Visible Worship Therefore most false is J. Faldo's Paraphrase yet thus far we could go That Visible Worship as such without a due Regard to what Kind of Worship it may be and what is the Root from whence it came cannot be well pleasing to God For then that so Splendid Whore and Deceitful Prophet at large described in the Revelation of Saint John would be therefore true Worshippers because their Worship was Visible But I do perceive that here it pincheth with almost all Professions The Quakers would put us off our own Strivings Willings Runnings in our own Wisdom Contrivance Appointment whereby we must take up such a Cross to self as is insupportable to Flesh and Blood And indeed it is so which all must come to know a Crucifying of or they enter not into the Kingdom of God here nor
by Jesus Christ Now unless it be an Evil for us to say that Men are accepted with God upon Christ's Inward Righteousness when the Scriptures say that the Reign of Grace through Righteousness where Sin reigned which was within Man certainly and therefore Inward is unto Eternal Life as full a word as being accepted with God I cannot see but in our holding forth Christ's Righteousness to be made ours by the Operation of his Holy Spirit in the Heart as the Efficient or Principal if not only Cause of our daily Acceptance with God we are Scripturally Orthodox § 9. We would also provide against the Malice of those Tongues who because we do allow Good Works or Fruits to be well-pleasing to God and necessary to Life Eternal do therefore rank us among the Papists as pleading for the Merit of Good Works For we lay not this second sort of Justification and much less the first upon any Exteriour Works that the very Spirit of Truth himself leads into as meerly Exteriour be they Acts of Justice Mercy Charity or such like But upon the holy Working of God's Power and Spirit in the Heart and the Creatures believing in and resigning himself up unto God to be by him renewed ordered led and disposed So that the Creature has no further Share then as he bows to the Requirings of God and contentedly acquiesceth in what it pleaseth Almighty God to do with him So our Wills there daily submitted to the Holy Will of God which is Sanctification is the Ground of our daily Acceptance with God and being received not as just by the Non-Imputation of Sins formerly committed for that alone depends upon Repentance and Faith in God's free Love to remit but as just by being actually and really made so through the Participation of the Just and Righteous Nature of Christ who is to all such Wisdom and Righteousness and Sanctification and plentious Redemption and here we will end this Argument leaving our Faith therein with God and sober Men. I shall omit here as well as else where taking any notice of his base Revilings sordid Pedantry unworthy of a Good Christian or Man of Learning and Civility and endeavour as God shall enable me to acquit my self of the Remainder of his Book with the same Honesty Truth Reason and Brevity that I hope I have done in what I have hitherto undertaken and dispatcht CHAP. XVIII He sayes we disown the True Christ It is proved that He denies in Contradiction to himself what we deny and that we are Scriptural and Sound in our Belief And though we cannot exclude that Divinity from the true Christ Yet we also own that the true Christ took Flesh that he appeared for the Salvation of Mankind and that his bodily Appearance was instrumental in the Point Christ owned according to Scriptures § 1. HE is now arriv'd at the Root-Error of the Quakers as he is pleased to name it who is a Man of Names and such too as are Beast enough too sometimes but they may pass perhaps for Gospel-Zeal or a pretty sort of Wit amongst some of his small Companions whose Disease is to be mistaken but let 's hear him patiently The Quakers disown and deny the Christ of God and set up a false Christ in his room and stead and attribute all to that false Christ which is due and peculiar to the true Christ This is that Non-such Lye which travels to bring forth that Babel therewith their Religion abound His Proof is at hand This we certainly know and can never call the bodily Garment Christ but that which appeared and dwelt in the Body Pennington's Quest 23 32. To which he sayes They do not deny that there was such a Man as Jesus the Son of Mary and that God or rather Christ was in him but this is no more then they profess of themselves that Christ as God is in them yet that Body of the Man Jesus which he calls here the bodily Garment he tells us they can never call Christ This Quotation he offers as explaining by another from the same Author and Book p. 20. For that which he took upon him was our Garment even the Flesh and Blood of our Nature VERY RIGHT but what followeth is wofully false which is of an Earthly Perishing Nature But he is of an Heavenly Nature From whence J. Faldo infers against us That the Body Christ took upon himself of our Nature is not the Christ But before we give him off we hope through the Help of our God to prove the Contrary to be highly against Christ Scriptures and sound Reason He has done us right in two respects which may a little answer for the Ill-Language he giveth us in our Charge First That he acknowledgeth we own that there was such a Man as Jesus the Son of Mary in Contradiction to abundance of our Adversaries and that God was in him which makes up our Christ Secondly That he whom we call Christ is not J. Faldo's Christ for he was that Body only that dyed else what mean those words inferred by way of Proof against us in Defence of the Charge The Body which Christ took on him of our Nature c. and therefore they can never call that Christ intimating he doth as the following Paragraph tells us This is a plain Denying the Man Christ Jesus yet behold the Babel of the Matter who after this dare say VERY RIGHT to this part of I. Pennington's words for that which he took upon him was our Garment even the Flesh and Blood of our Nature Where he manifestly implies that what he just now accounted the whole Christ and reproaches us for denying to be such is not the Christ Himself but his Garment only unless there be no Difference betwixt Christ and his Garment or that Christ was but the Garment of that more excellent Soul or Divine Being that dwelt therein which is Unscriptural and very Carnal If this Man had not charged us with what he cannot prove nay if he has not manifestly contradicted himself in his Endeavours to do it no Man was ever guilty in those Respects But that none may be stumbled by his untrue Characters of us We do believe and plainly declare and that with Holy Reverence and Fear that we cannot we dare not call the meer Body the Christ but the Body of Christ That he was after the Flesh born of the Virgin like unto us in all things Sin excepted and consequently that Body must have been of the same Nature with ours else it was not a Real but Phantastical Body is most true and if it had not been so neither could it have been a Garment of the Nature of our Flesh which is so and to which J. Faldo said just now VERY RIGHT nor could the cruel Instruments have prevail'd against his Life as they did And now whether it be most against Christ Scripture and Reason to say that that Body which was nailed upon the Cross was
whom the Money was and is due But how clever any may think this Simile we will prove it Lame and Defective For the Change was not of the Body any further then as the Soul govern'd it after a new Way of Living I cannot think that J. Faldo will dare to say that a Man's Body is rendered ever the less Corruptible by any the best Change the Soul can make in this World The Question is about what that Change must be which makes a Corruptible an Incorruptible Body I mean not by Corrupt Sinful but that gross Elementary Matter which is subject to those Impressions Influences Mutations and Passions which we see all Sublunary Bodies are subject to Either the Resurrection of the Body must be without that Matter or it must not If it must then it is not that same Numerical Body and so their proper and strict taking of the Word Resurrection they must let go If it must not be without that same gross Matter it dyed with then I affirm it cannot be Incorruptible because it will carry with it that which will render it Corruptible ad Infinitum And what can be more Unreasonable then that Bodies compounded of this Elementary World which sayes our Adversary shall and must by Nature have an End should out live their own Matter and which is more never end I say we cannot see how that which is of Dust should be Eternal whilst that from whence it came is by Nature but Temporal And that which is yet most of all Irreconcileable with Scripture and right Reason is that the Loss and Change of Nature from Corruptible to Incorruptible Natural to Spiritual should not make it another Body In vain do such dispute against the Popish Transubstantiation as an Absurd and Impossible Thing who themselves are guilty in a Case of the like Nature The Romanists affirm a Change in the Sacrament though our senses tell us it is the same thing that ever it was Our Adversaries in the Point of the Resurrection boldly affirm that it is the same Body and yet Transubstantiated from Natural to Spiritual or chang'd from what it was to something it never was For my part I think the Last not less Impertinent and the Former more expresly Scriptural But because such things run Men into Unprofitable Questions various Searches and a Philosophical Way of Discoursing no wayes tending to God's Honour nor the Soul's Profit and Comfort I will Conclude this Head with our Confession That every Seed shall have its own Body and that such an one as it will please Almighty God to give and Thou Fool belongs most rightfully to him who acquiesceth not in an humble Contentedness with the good Will of God and that manner of Body he shall give And I think it would make more for Love Peace and Good-Will if our Enemies would leave those things with God quicquid supra nos nihil ad nos whose Will be done in Earth as it is in Heaven § 3. To the Second Head of the Charge to be consider'd in this Chapter to wit Our not Professing of Eternal Rewards needs no other Answer then That none ever read so He quotes no such thing nay he says that he has searcht but to no Purpose and I challenge him to name one Person reputed by us to be of us that has ever affirmed so gross a Thing Well then may I call this the Last great Lye of his Second Part of Lyes and Slanders too such as he will be found much to weak to defend before the Tribunal of our God where we have whereof both to Answer and justly Accuse him before Angels as well as that we have now plainly refuted him before Men. But he makes this a Consequence of Denying the Resurrection which is obviously weak since whatever we have scrupled of the common gross Notion of the Resurrection of this Corruptible Body we have ever held an Eternal State of Recompence But so mean are his Proofs for this Conjecture if I may give them that Name that they show far more of his Ignorance and Malice then our Faith in that Atheistical Opinion However hear them R. Farnsworth said he was not saved by what Christ did at Jerusalem therefore says he already saved But can any in their Wits think he meant saved from Sin here to be the whole of Salvation and Blessedness O weak Man Well but I Pennington says Who forget God are to be turn'd into Hell What Hell says J. F. only in this Life A very Lye and Infamous Slander J. Faldo's Book against us unrepented of will prove we believe that Eternal Wo and Vengeance shall be the Wages of that Hellish Work We say That in this Life Men have an Earnest of Heaven and Hell and some Sence of both States as they are Good or Bad but never did we affirm Men to enjoy that full Measure of Joy or Torment they shall have as their Eternal Reward or Recompence hereafter But E. Bourrough the Day he died said he was now putting off this Manner of Person and returning to his own Being Those are not his very Words but what then Is this to prove we deny an Eternal Recompence to produce his own Testimony to an Everlasting State of Blessedness that he Himself was just entering into But W. Penn vindicates an Heaven within after his fashion against the Author of the Spirit of the Quakers tried And what is this to denying an Eternal Heaven for the Righteous Did not the Saints enjoy Heavenly Places in Spirit when on Earth O Carnal Man Be-nighted by the Power of Darkness whose Understanding the thick Fogs and Mists of Ignorance Malice and Revenge have over-cast that thou call'st Good Evil and Evil Good Light Darkness and Darkness Light § 3. I shall here after his Example resume the Question and collect all that has been said and made evidently to appear on the behalf of True Christianity and the Apostolically Professors of it I mean the People of God call'd Quakers and so end this Discourse respecting the main of the Book If QUAKERISM so call'd be not another Dispensation then that of Christ preached and settled by the Apostles If it deny not the Scriptures If it deny not all nor any of the Ordinances of the Gospel If it deny not any Influence of Christ's Transactions above 1600 Years since into our Justification and Salvation as he phraises it If it deny not Jesus the Son of Mary after the Flesh otherwise God over all to be the Christ of God If it own not false Gods and be not Idolatry If it deny not the true Resurrection of the Dead If it doth affect an affected Expression of our Adversaries or rather hold forth a future Blessedness or Misery in another World according to the Deeds done in this Then Quakerism in our Adversary's account must be Christianity But all these things are true and have been proved of Quakerism so called Therefore Quakerism so call'd is true
Apostolical or primitive Christianity And this shall close our Chapter and my honest and clear Answer to the second part of his Discourse which makes up more then three parts of four of his Uncharitable and Disingenuous Treatise AN APPENDIX Being A Reply to that last Part of his Book which pretends to answer the first of my Spirit of Truth Vindicated entituled An Examination of the first part of W. P's Spirit of Truth c. with a Rebuke of his Exorbitances § 1. THough there has been no Adversary which has fallen to my share that has shown more Incivility and less Learning a thing he pretends to in Answer to any of my Books then J. Faldo has done in this last part of his Quakerism no Christianity yet how little soever I have at least to bestow upon him I desire to manifest more Temper Truth and Civility then to recompence him with that Ill-bred Language those School-puns and loose irreverent if not prophane Sayings amidst the most weighty Matters it hath pleased him to give me for a great share of his Answer to the first Part of my Book I will rather betake my self to single out the Strength of his Objections if any there be and bestow my Time in Vindication of the Truth then to rail revile undervalue and stigmatize with I know not how many disgracefull Epithites a Way that never yet reacht into any Man's Conscience And this Ken I have of J. Faldo That all his Discourse of Christianity interlined with so much Babling Prattle and base Abuse would never move a sober Turk and a Banian is a Saint to a Congregation of such kind of Christians § 2. He tells me he expected great Things when first he set about to read my Book and began to stagger in his Mind as to that Ingenious Piece call'd The Spirit of the Quakers tried or to that purpose But knowing himself better I hope he will excuse me if I do not believe him He never had that Opinion of any thing writ in Defence of a People he testifies such irreconcilable Hatred to which is none of the meanest Blots in his Scutchion Pen the Answerer if he were not furnisht with Fore-head and Tales beyond measure his Pamphlet would have had nothing remarkable in it Whether this be most a Lye or an Abuse I know not perhaps the Reader may but sure I am there is more of both then stands with true Christianity to give a comprehensive Under value of what he can never answer which perhaps goes for one among such as have Faith in him or know no better § 3. But he is angry at my Stating the Question thus Whether God's Holy and Unerring Spirit is or should be the proper Judge of Truth Rule of Faith and Guide of Life among Men especially under the Administration of the blessed Gospel of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ or no. I affirm it and proceed to prove it by Scripture and Reason Upon which be pleased to hear his Reflection and from hence make a Judgment what that Spirit must be that should so pretend to answer my Spirit of Truth c. Considering his Words foregoing which are too many and too worthless to transcribe And what he drives at in the handling of this Question I never read one so lame and deformed in my Life come forth with such State and Confidence and such a train and rout of Mediums as deformed as it self There is in it neither Logick nor Honesty Certainly if he had not turned Quaker and in that Fall put all out of joynt he could not likely after such good Nursing have been thus lamentably cripled in his Intellects and somewhat besides One would think the Strain of this Comment were Answer to it self Why so much flourish and little done Must Noise supply the Absence of Reason and base Reviling go for Confutation Shallow Man what Lameness is there in the Question I profess I see none nor has he so much as pointed at one Limb that is defective in all this Rabble of Reflection I have neither Logick nor Honesty It had been to be wish'd that he had shown more of both in saying so or held his Tongue But my turning Quaker has put something out of joynt But what I know not unless the good Opinion I once undeserved had of such Mountebank Priests But give him his due he is the first Man that ever acquainted me with the Ground of Cripling I was never yet wise enough to think it a Natural Effect of Ill-nursing only through Carelesness in Nurses Falls and the like have brought it I perceive he is not only a Wel wisher to Physick by his hard Word Ebullitions but a small Pretender to Chyrurgery by his Terme out of joynt when he has given better Proof of his well-setting to rights his own dis-joynted or if he will dislocated Cause with that of Chistianity he may better set up for a Religious Bone-setter and in the mean time he can pass but for a Pretender But I have no Logick And why Because I say pag. 37. there is no more Difference to me between a Judge Rule and Gaide then essentially there can be in the Wisdom Justice and Holiness of God he should have added sayes J. Faldo nor between Truth Faith and Life amongst Men. I would know of any Man that can think himself capable of judging in the plainest Case if this be an Answer to my Argument I said then I do again that there is no more Difference in them respecting the Principle then essentially there can be in the Wisdom Justice and Holiness of God which are but so many Words to express the Perfection of one and the same Being for he is all and that in all Wise in being Just and both in being Holy They are inseparable for That which gives me a right Sense or Judgment of Truth from Error is as well to me a Rule what I should believe or dis-believe and a Guide what I should practise or not practise as at first it was my Judge of what was Truth from what was Errour All which sober and indeed unanswerable Arguing he thought fit to over-look which is very Disingenuous I say that the same Spirit which is a Judge is a Rule and Guide even in that very Act when it is a Judge and that unavoidably Therefore to distinguish them is frivolous and to maintain one to be a Rule and another a Judge is absurd and heterodox For his Addition it is not hard to answer That there is more Difference between Truth Faith and Life for one may be without the other two I mean Truth abstractly But if it shall be understood of Truth received into the Heart I say that there is so great an Affinity between Truth true Faith and an Heavenly Life that they follow each other almost at an instant and cannot be separated from each other § 4. But he is Angry that I should use these Words of Lord
and Saviour in my Question I thought them sober and I am sure I meant them of him that was before Abraham that in time appeared for the Salvation of his People however he would disinterest us in them but indeed the Way he takes to do it will do us no harm For that he may insinuate we mean another thing he calls it Playing at Blind-Man's-Buff which is worse then a Buffle headed Expression Is this your Gospel-Minister Let him go Wrastle at Morefields play Foot-ball Matches turn Ringer a Practice he pleads for in his Book leave off Prophaning the Holy Name of God with such an unhallowed Mouth and unbridled Tongue Some of my Scripture-Arguments he pretends to refute I shall mention and what he objects that both may be weighed in an equal Ballance § 5. The first Scripture by me urged is that in Genes 6. 3. My Spirit shall not alwayes strive with Man c. From whence I infer that God's unerring Spirit both did so strive either for Conviction and Conversion or to prompt to further Attainments and that they were not at that time of the World without an Infallible Spirit to Teach Rule Judge c. To which he sayes My Argument is a Thicket of Impertinences that a Body had need of good Arithmetick to number the Terms that I am a none-such for Diving if I can fetch up from this Scripture what is mention'd in this Proposition What need there is of all this little Wit a better Word for Pedantry I know not and I believe more are of my Mind but if my Consequences are so Impertinent and so Numerous that ordinary Arithmetick will not serve to reckon them and lastly so Unnatural as the Scripture will afford me not one of them I am greatly to be blamed But because what he sayes for me may be of more Force then all that I can offer let this Passage be weighed It is more then probable that the Spirit did strive with them to make them better then they were yet none of these Ends are expressed in the Text An eminent Contradiction to him and which is more to it self For if the Spirit strove to make them better then since that better consisted in a Discovery of Good and Evil with an Election of the Good and a Denyal of the Evil I would fain know of J. Faldo how that could be and the Spirit of Truth not be what I have instanced in my Argument Was it not then a Judge of what was Good from Evil A Rule how to chuse one and refuse the other A Guide to lead direct enable to the Choice and preserve in it O Weak Man Is this the Upshot of all thy poor Insults But why may not William Penn express the Scope of any Scripture in his Argument though he find not the very Words in the Text if it will bear them especially since J. Faldo himself allows it both in granting that the Spirit strove to make them better which is not verbally exprest and by his Weekly Practice of Preaching where nothing is more frequent then his Exposition and after a sort too which the Text many times will not bear But he tells me that my Question is to prove the Spirit 's Teaching indefinitely or without Difference of Persons and my Proof speaks of the Spirit 's Striving with Wicked Men. For this he cries out that I wander from Truth and Reason and am Infatuated questioning if my Conscience have any Eyes and has Impudence enough to tell me that I am beholding to him for giving no further Discovery of my Vanity and Folly c. How groundless his Cavil and Reflection are and with what rude and unhandsom Terms he is pleased to give them I need not trouble my self to shew But certainly if God affords Bad Men his Spirit to strive with them then Good Men who cannot be such without it but Sensual and Devilish rather must needs have this Holy Spirit as well to preserve them as that is made them such if so then may we conclude our Adversary Weak as well as Envious who from that Text denies my Proof of the Universality of God's Spirit For what is it but to say that though all Wicked Men have the Spirit striving Good Men have it not Whose Conscience wants Eyes at this time will not be hard to determine but sure I am it was his Wisdom to leave off where he did since his reputing my Sober Scriptural Argument Infatuation Folly c was the most evident Mark of his own he could well have given us § 6. The Second Scripture I urge and which he perverts is that in Neh. 3. 20 Thou gavest also thy Goo◠Spirit to instruct them which sayes he without being so Ingenuous as to mention much less consider and answer my Argument upon it is mainly the Spirit of God which he put upon Moses and Joshua for which he quotes Numb 11. 17. 27. 18 Psal 77. 20. But does he think us so Credulous as to receive this Stuff for Gospel Certainly we must commit the greatest Cruelty upon our Understandings to strain them to such a Fiction He might with as good Reason have said that the Pillar of Cloud by Day and Fire by Night were seen of none but Moses and Joshua as to grant they had the immediate and general Benefit of them and at the same time deny them to have had the immediate Benefit of the Spirit 's Teachings Beside had they not had some Measure of the Spirit of God they could never have known that Moses had been so inspired nor have so willingly bowed under Moses as they did and have shewn themselves so well assured of his Conduct Nor can the Objection of their Rebellion at times invalid our Reason since it were to say that they sinned not against the Spirit of God in themselves but in Moses only But because they did sin against the Holy Ghost in themselves and that it was the greatest Ground for Charging of Rebellion against them we may well conclude that they had the Spirit that is to Conviction The Scriptures he brings are no more to his purpose then the Story of Toby and his Dog For though there was the Gift of Spirit poured out upon Moses Joshua and others that was not common to the People yet this proves not that they were not without a Measure of the Unerring Spirit to teach them what was acceptable with God The Difference was not that Moses c. had the Spirit and the People had it not but that he and some others had the Spirit of Government and the People had it not But what is this for him Doth not the same Eternal Spirit that teacheth to Rule also teach People to be ruled Nay I affirm that as God did gift several by his Holy Spirit to Govern and consequently they had the Spirit so did he bestow of his Holy Spirit upon the People to enable them to live according to the
to be the Great Rule to Believers and yet himself after much Opposition to give it away and accord as far as any Man need to do that would be of one Mind with us in the Point savours of great Weakness and Inadvertency not that he now speaks Truth but that he should so eager ly oppose it before § 17. There is one Passage more which being to this Purpose I will mention We value not the Sense of the Scripture for the Print's sake but the Print for the Sense sake and the Blessings that attend that Way of Conveying the holy and revealed Will of God and so much as to correct your Vapour This he speaks upon my Words that the Intimate of a Prince needs not so much an Edict because in Print as because of his living and more immediate Touches he may have had from his Prince Now let any tell me if the Quakers have put the Scriptures into any degree below that wherein J. Faldo himself has plac'd them Do the Quakers say that true Christians have the Spirit so sayes J. Faldo too Do the Quakers affirm that the Spirit of God is a Judge Rule and Guide and speaks forth the Mind of God into the very Conscience Does J. Faldo come one Jot behind them But do they say that it is the Sense of the Truth declared of in the Scripture that puts a Value upon the Declaration and that written or printed Words are valu'd for the Matters sake they treat of rather then their own yea that the Scripture of it self can do little It is J. Faldo's own Doctrine Very well But does J. Faldo say that God doth not alwayes speak in the Conscience immediately by his Spirit but sometimes by the Spirit through the Use of Means as the Scriptures Preaching Praying Creator Providence c. and that by such wayes he reacheth into the Consciences of Men so say the Quakers too Would the Man but be certain to himself we needed no other Advocate But his Ignorance of our Principles or Prejudice to mis-represent them makes him at once oppose us and contradict himself And now we are come to the Conclusion of the Matter which he sayes is to shew me my self in the Glass of Sense if I think my Eyes worth an Using Indeed I do and am willing to behold all he hath to shew me◠Reader hear him soberly § 18. Foul Epithites as Knave Puppy Fool Rascal Loggerhead Cheat This you say was the Language of your Adversaries smal Crier but as you call it of a loathsome Sent. It seems J. Faldo's Nose calls it no such thing A long experienced Chaplin a kind of a Religious Gentleman-Usher should have learned better Manners So sayes he You blow it on the Author of the Book within five Lines Tryers of other Mens Spirits who have it should be give so little Proof of the Knowledge of their own as to be wanting in the very first Principles of Cavility This is not fair sayes J. Faldo to charge him with anothers Faults It is some Justice to us that he will account such Language to a Quaker a Fault But I would have him know that I never intended any such thing as be basely infers that is to make H. Hedworth in the least guilty of usually calling G. Fox those scurrilous Names For though I think him Envious enough against G. F. in particular as appears by another sort of Language and the Quakers in general yet I believe him to have more Civility and Regard to his Way whatsoever he thinks of me then to dirt it with any thing so gross But for as much as T. Firman the Author of that foul Language was his great Intimate and Associate that they have in common the same Creed are joyntly interested against us thereby earnestly endeavouring to promote their beloved Socinianism or Bidleism in the World and Men acted not by two distinct Spirits though one might lanch forth more extravagantly then the other And lastly that H. H. had shewen other sorts of Rudeness and Injustice to us in general and many by Name in his Spirit of the Quarters tryed I did say These Men and continue there still the Method of their Proceed then and since especially that restless Calumniator Tho. Firman being such as must needs offend every Good Man Knave and Fool being more in his Mouth still then becometh any Man that is not more of both then such he very frequently calls so Some think it a Shame that so ill a Tongue should go unrebuk'd of those whose Principles and Interest give them the Liberty of doing it in a way that if they know the Man might be more effectual then all the Moderation and Reason that can easily be shown to him But sayes John Faldo in his or their Defence for they love to claw one another Compare this Civility of yours with your own To all this I say He obtrudes an arrant Lye upon our very Senses Wretched Scribler How Idle how Frivolous and how very Troublesome is he with his Ridiculous Remarks Very well And is this the great Blow threatned I fall not from one tittle of it 'T is all true all his due I could not well have spoken more plain and pertinent Words No Knave Puppy Fool Rascal Logger-head Cheat c. No Impostor False-Prophet Lyars Trapans and what not did we accost them with What! Must not we fling off the Dirt they cast upon us Shall it be accounted well-Phrasing to call us all to naught and our earnest Refuse of such base Epithites and severe Censure of such Scurrility be reputed Railing Oh Unreasonable Men Ought People therefore to be kill'd because they cry Murder or lose their Reputation because they are Zealous to maintain it But it was notably done of J. Faldo to provide for himself whose Ill Languague he thought might meet with as sharp Rebukes as that of our other Enemies had done Nor indeed will we let slip this Opportunity of Collecting Publishing to the World after what manner he has us'd us throughout his Discourse and my self in particular who never had any thing to do with him in all my Life If he has not said worse of us with whom we have had so little if any thing at all to do then he pretends I have against those Men that gave such Provocation let me fall in the good Opinion of the Reader and the Just Witness in his Conscience condemn me but if it appear that this unprovoked Person is far more guilty then he can possibly render us by vilifying Expressions against our Persons and Principles I hope and expect so much Justice from the Reader as that the Innocent may go free and the Guilty only be Condemned That J. Faldo has not shewn himself that Man of Moderation Civility or Religion he pretends himself to be and which I hear some few have hitherto reputed let the following Faithfull and True Collection of but some of his many
those they Preach to W. P. This is done like the Fox indeed He would suggest because we deny Hirelings that is Bargainers Men that make it their Trade that have no other will seek no other and yet preach perhaps but once a Week if then and bestow the Six Days that might be otherwise employ'd to Study for that Day instead of Preaching most of those Dayes that therefore we are such Cruel Hard-hearted People that is such as Preach and are Poor either through a numerous Family low Estate many Losses or a continual Attendance from Day to Day upon the Ministry they have receiv'd of God we will not minister to their Necessities for such as so receive any Assistance are Hirelings and we should contribute to make them so No no J. Faldo the Quakers are no such People but for all that they can do and I will renounce Thee and such as Thou art for Hirelings First in that you have not received the Living Heavenly Gift of the Ministry And secondly because you do generally Bargain will not preach without it and can basely leave an Honester People for a better Allowance This is Notorious therefore stop thy Mouth J. F. pag. 72. THE LUST sayes he all Desires that accord not to the Light within and proceed not from thence W. P. What accords not with the Light within is not of God and so far we own his Explanation but to say that all Desires about such ordinary things as are left to the common Understanding Prudence and Liberty of Man to do or not to do are Lust if they come not from the immediate Impulse of the Light within is his own Notion not the Quakers We do not subject that heavenly Principle to nor concern it with every Inferior and Frivolous thing belonging to this World J. F. pag. 75. CHRIST THE OFFERING says he the Light within W. P. This is no Quakers Expression and unless we are to answer for J. Faldo's Mistakes we are unconcern'd in it Only his Malice is manifest for he would by this insinuate that we deny Christ to be an Offering as in the Flesh and the Body then offered up to be concern'd in our Belief of the Offering But I do declare it to have been an holy Offering and such an one too as was to be once for all Therefore let none receive his Abuse of us for our Faith J. F. pag. 79. MEN-PLEASERS says he They who comply with Men though in things not only Lawful but also to Edification W. P. We Charge this upon him as an Arrant Lye We are so far from reputing such Men-pleasers that we account them Sober Courteous and Commendable Persons provided he means by Lawful and to Edification what we do otherwise he is not Honest to obtrude Matters in Question for our Meanings J. F. pag. 81. RAVENING BRAIN sayes he Studying and following after Divine Knowledge W. P. This is not fair The Word studying and following we own in a sense Studying that is Meditating Following that is Obeying the Light and Spirit of God But because we deny the Dark and Heathenish Metaphysicks the prolix and abstruse Niceties of the School-men and affirm There is no way to become vers'd in the Things of God but by being an humble Student and diligent Disciple in the School of Christ that is to be taught of his Light Grace or holy Spirit Therefore all right Study and all right Wayes to come to the Knowledge of Divine Things we must be charg'd with the Denyal of Disingenuous Man J. F. pag. 86. TRADITIONS OF MEN that is says he The Scripture or Written Word W. P. Show us that in any Book that is subscrib'd by an acknowledg'd Quaker Tradition is a Delivering any thing down From one Generation to another and as such the word is Inoffensive but to say They are the Traditions of Men in the sense Christ reprov'd the Pharisaical Religion God forbid I had rather my Tongue were cut out of my Head O Base Man To abuse an innocent People thus grosly The Scripture is a Godly Tradition or Writing given forth by Inspiration and preserv'd through Generations which we read believe and desire to fulfil through the Power of God J. F. pag. 63 82 83 87. BABYLON Shaddows Spirit of Anti-Christ Outward Court that is says he all Ordinances Worship Faith Obedience that have any Form though Christ's and Gospel Forms being with them the Worship of Heathens not of Christians W. P. This Key opens into as many Forgeries as ever I knew one Key do in my Life Certainly were not this Man left of God for his Enmity he could never run into such extravagant Dishonesty What! Belye us in the Sight of all Indeed it turns upon himself For Visible Worship the Form of Godliness Faith and Obedience to every Ordinance of God we own profess and practise daily and publickly through the Power of our God in whose Name we renounce his Constructions and trample upon all his Malice black and enrag'd as it is J. F. pag. 89. THE VAIL IS OVER THEM that is says J. Faldo the Belief of the Man Christ Jesus which was of our Nature to be the Christ c. W. P. Let this be the Last though several more might be observed which at this time shall be consider'd in which we shall see that J. Faldo has done like himself and the Man we have all along taken him to be The Vail is over them it is a Scripture-Phrase 2 Cor. 3. 15. used by the Apostle to express the Darkness and Ignorance that to that time remain'd over the Understanding of the Jews in reading the Law and this Vail he makes us to interpret after this gross and absurd manner namely That the Vail is the Man Christ Wicked Man Did ever Quaker so irreverently express himself Give us his Name or tell us in what Book we may find it What greater Malice couldst thou have shown then thus unjustly to pervert the Scripture in our Name belying and abusing both As if because Christ's Flesh is called a Vail and the Ignorance of the Jews a Vail that therefore the Quakers must of Necessity mean by Vail in the first sense Vail in the second sense as if the Way to have the Vail rent were to deny the Man Christ Jesus which were to make Christ rend and destroy himself who as the Quickning Spirit alone rends all Vails of the Hearts of Unbelievers Nor indeed have I met with one Term absurd or un-intelligible unless the Scripture use such therefore 't is an Untruth to stile them absurd and a Contradiction in him to offer at Explaining any thing that is truly un-intelligible And that all the World may behold the Spirit of J. Faldo how Ill he governs himself against the Quakers which makes not a little for them let his following Epithetes and Expressions be well weighed I think they are so naked they want no Key and glad we are he found no such Subjects from us to
had of the Love Purity Justice Mercy Goodness and Recompence of God for such as in any Age could come to God did first know that God was and that he was a Rewarder of all those that did draw nigh unto him to obtain which knowledg God had manifested it in man for he had shown it there unto him I say those who so retained the Sence of God in their knowledg were not aggriev'd Christianity should take Place for they measuring things as they inwardly felt them were proper Judges of Gods Rising and Breaking forth among the Sons of Men they could feel him leading out of and beyond the Use of those Elements which were once added because of Weakness and now became beggarly by a brighter Glory An inward sense being that they kept to as the more sure Word as they felt a with-drawing of the divine Life Power Spirit out of those inferiour Institutions they followed it not staying in any outward dispensation because God had been there if he had once left it But such as were Litteral Formal Exact Critical they were the Persons who having least of the Divine Sight and Sense of God's goings among the Sons of Men they contended for God's Exteriour Appointments as that they were signally given Good Men had Practised them and are we Wiser then our Fathers No we will have our Reasons indeed Darkness satisfied in the Matter Behold the Pharisee and Greek of Old to whom Christ's outward Appearance was to the one a Stumbling Block and to the other Foolishness and the many-headed Professor now who esteems no better of his Spiritual Manifestation in the Hearts of the Children of Men. O! what will the End be of the Gawdy Obstinate Hypocrites of this Age who resist so great Salvation Tribulation and Anguish forever unless they repent for what Men Sow that they shall Reap and who have improved their Talent shall enter into the Joy of their Lord. § 10. Well But when came this Quakerism into the world he tells us about the year 1651. quoting E. B's Epistle before G. F's Gr. Mist also a small Treatise writ by J. Whitehead and J. Pennington from whence he infers that Quakerism is a Late Dispensation therefore not that of Christianity But certainly this Man hath taken a very Quick Course to Un-Christian himself and all the Presbyterians Independents and Anabaptists in the World as well as the Quakers For I would ask him if there was not a Time since the Primitive Age wherein Darkness had overspread the Earth the Beast did Reign and the Pure Religion was wholly Wildernest If So Consequently the Resurrection of Truth is no more a New Dispensation or not that of Christianity then a Man that is exiled his Country is not essentially the same Man when he returns that he was before And so far is my Argument for those Separatists that though I take them to be short of the True Evangelical Faith and Righteousness yet I acknowledg them to have a Reformation unknown in that thick Apostacy which has couer'd the World and Ecclipst the blessed Light of the Glorious Gospel that shin'd in the first Ages after Christ But since we are of another Religion by his Account then the Christian because we cannot say that we were alwayes successively from the Apostles Time I will argue that the Presbyterians Independents and Anabaptists are not Christians nor is what they profess to be esteem'd Christianity because they cannot prove a Regular Succession from the Apostles Times their Date also being of later years What will they say then The Church was fled into the Wilderness Truth exil'd God as a stranger in the Earth yet Truth still the same in it self Very well so say we God was pleas'd to Renew the Right Christian Dispensation to us and by us according to John's Vision that the Everlasting Gospel was preacht again intimating that their had been a Time wherein it was not preacht If this be not a New Gospel because anew or again preacht neither is that which J. Faldo calls Quakerism a New Dispensation because it is Preaching anew the Everlasting Gospel to the Sons of Men which is God's Power inwardly manifested for the Conviction Conversion Redemption and Salvation of the Souls of such as believe in it § 11. And though he particularly seems to Triumph over Isaac Pennington's Distinguishing between the Dispensation of Moses Christ and his Apostles and THIS of our Day as if they had been three several Dispensations and consequently if Christ's was not that of Moses because it swallow'd it up neither this the Dispensation of Christ which J. Pennington saith it swallows up yet to me it seems a pittiful Catch and shows he knows not how to take things with that Candor they are writ J. P. means not a Distinct Administration in Kind but Dispensation of one and the same Light Life and Power by Nature at several Times and sundry Manners to the World Christ was before the Law under the Law with the Prophets but never so revealed as in that Holy Manhood will it therefore follow he was not Antecedent to that Appearance or He that appeared then more gloriously had never shown himself before Or because of a Difference in Manifestation therefore not the same HE through all those several Manifestations in himself Certainly this Man is very Unjust to J. P. especially when the Words above quoted that speak of a Dispensation he experienced a little before God broke forth by us called Quakers could have informed him that he meant the Divers Breakin gs forth of God's Light and Truth in order to the full Discovery and Recovery of Lost Primitive Christianity So that this present Appearance swallowing up all going before it had so term'd it as he doth not and therefore wrong'd is no more then God's Retriving to us the Ancient Gospel with additional Blessings and Assistances giving us the same Life and Foundation they had and what else he pleased by way of Improvement which alters not the Nature no more then a Child in Christ is not that Numerical Creature but another Distinct Being when a Man And if this Account of Things will not satisfie him he may chuse I have thus far cleared the Truth and those who sincerely profess it and therein my own Conscience both to God and the World CHAP. III. J. Faldo's Charge That the Scriptures are not the Word of God Reasons for it The Scriptures by him urg'd against us clear'd and prov'd to be for us They are the Words of the Word a Declaration of the great Law Word or Commandment but not that Law Word or Commandment § 1. THis Chapter will concern the Scriptures more directly in which we hope to prove that not We but our Adversary is mistaken with respect to what he chargeth upon us § 2. He intitles his Chapter thus That the Quakers Deny the Scriptures I was almost astonisht at it because he pretended to prove all out of our own Books
and none such had ever yet come to my hand But upon my sober Perusal of the Matter I found this to be the Upshot That the Quakers Deny them to be the Word of God therefore they deny them altogether Whence I take good Heart to show his Ignorance or great Dishonesty § 3. I will allow to him without going any farther that the People called Quakers do deny the Scriptures to be the Word of God and therefore shall take for granted what he quotes out of J. N. F. Howgil J. Parnel and W. Smith But that we do consequently Deny the Scriptures we shall oppose we hope to the Death § 4. I do declare to the whole World that We believe the Scriptures to contain a Declaration of the Mind and Will of God in and to those Ages in which they were written being given forth by the Holy Ghost moving in the Hearts of holy Men of God That they ought also to be Believed Read and Fulfill'd in our Day being Useful for Reproof and Instruction that the Man of God may be perfect And that they have been and are Instrumental to great Good upon the Spirits of People by the secret Power of God which often strikes and presseth home to the very Conscience the weighty Truths declar'd therein yet We do Deny them to be the Word of God ascribing that alone to Christ himself and that not without Scripture and Reason § 5. First It is granted on all hands that Christ is expresly called in Scripture the Word of God but no where that the Scriptures are so styled Secondly That though I should allow it to be a Figurative Expression and therefore says our Adversary Improper yet because a Word among Men conveyes the Mind of one unto another and that Christ is the great Word of God that in all Ages hath convey'd or spoken the Mind of God unto Mankind and so the Author of all good Words he only may by way of Right and Excellency be so styl'd of Us. Thirdly I shall easily grant to him that one Word may stand representative of many and that the Ten Words were not Ten Numerical Words because each Word contained many yet this I will say that Word in Scripture is taken for Commandment and they have an equivalent Signification as in Deuteronomy may be seen And since that was the Import of the Ten Words to wit Ten Commandments each Word has its own Commandment Therefore it is no more against us to allow those Ten Words to be more then Ten Words then Ten Commandments to have more then Ten Words And whatever our Adversaries may say or think of us We therefore Decline to call the Scriptures the Word of God because we believe It to be a Title only due to that Living Quickning Word by which God vouchsafes to disclose his Mind and Will unto Man-kind Christ the Way to the Father § 6. But sayes our Adversary to this Argument The Word was God therefore the Scriptures cannot be the Word because they are not God Let me tell you that the Scripture may be the Word and Christ the Word also and yet though Christ be the Word of God the Scriptures the Word may be quite another thing Certain I am this is quite another thing then good Doctrine How can the Scriptures be the Word of God and Christ the Word of God too Are there two Distinct Words of God the one quite another thing from the other O shameful Arguing If he had said Christ is the Word of God and the Scriptures a Word of God he would have a little better hit the Mark But to assert Two General Comprehensive Words of God sounds Harsh and Inconsistent I would fain know in Case we should admit this absurd Assertion how he would distinguish between these Two General Comprehensive Words For my part I think it as good Sense to call a King's Letters King or an Ambassador's Credential's Ambassador O no says our Adversary you Mistake Christ is called a Light a Rock a Lyon will it thence follow that there are no other Lights Rocks or Lyons I Answer There is no other Light Rock or Lyon then Christ with respect to That for which He is so call'd Neither is there any other Word then Christ with respect to that for which he is so styl'd to wit God's Living Powerful Word And this decides the Controversie and plainly adjudges us the Matter against the utmost Force of our Adversary to the Contrary For if he is therefore a Light because he only can and doth Discover the Unfruitful Works of Darkness a Rock because whoever build on Him is Safe and a Lyon because the King of all whose Utterings are able to Terrifie all Destruction from his Walks but what he brings upon his Adversaries and therefore there is not another Light to inlighten Man's Soul or Rock for Christ's Church to be built on neither any other Lyon to secure them from the Devourer consequently because he is the Living Spiritual Powerful Word of God there is not another that 's The Word of God § 7. But he further says That the Word of God is so exprest in Scripture as it must needs be understood not of Christ but the Scriptures He that regardeth not the Word of the Lord. He that feared the Word of the Lord Stand thou still a while that I may shew thee the Word of God the Sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God And the Cares of the World choak the Word and it becometh Unfruitful Mark 4. 19. which saith he cannot be understood of Christ or God and that a little Skill in the Original would free us from these Mistakes and to that Purpose To which I answer that the Word of the Lord mention'd in Exodus and Samuel are properly to be understood of the Living Spiritual Word of God which spoke to the People through those Servants of the Lord For who Received or Rejected the Mind of that Word exprest in many Words received the Word and it had a place in their Hearts or else rejected it and it had no place in them This makes nothing against us in the least For that Passage in the Ephesians Beza whom he quotes I suppose as embracing his Judgment has determin'd the Matter for he has it the Spiritual Sword Then let us read the Words thus The Spiritual Sword is the Word of God or The Word of God is the Spiritual Sword For Christ is as truly a Sword an Ax a Fire which the Word of God is call'd as a Lyon a Rock a Door And for the last Passage out of Mark which seems to carry most of Weight in it for our Adversary it may rightly be understood of that Truth which Christ the Word livingly sows in the Hearts of Men Women the Word of Advice Reproof Instruction and the like But of the Scriptures it cannot be understood as neither can any of the other places For first those