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A40712 Humble advice to the conforming and non-conforming ministers and people how to behave themselves under the present liberty / by the author of Toleration not to be abused. Fullwood, Francis, d. 1693. 1673 (1673) Wing F2508; ESTC R19538 34,515 144

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we have an opportunity to do better it is unlawful to joyn with them that do worse For though it be not lawful to neglect your own duty and opportunity it is lawful for you by deed as well as word to shew your Christian Concord and Communion Therefore in Parishes where all may well hear the Parish Minister I would not have you without necessity Preach at the same hour as he doth but at some middle time that you may not seem to vie with him for Auditors nor to draw the People from him But let them go with you to hear him and after come and hear you or before And that he likes not this gathering of Churches very well whatever he had said in the defense by the Petition he would have us make for them That if possible upon the terms he had laid down they might be taken into the established Ministry if not yet tolerated as Lecturers under us in such Churches where the Ministers desire them And he hath my consent that either of these were rather to be admitted though it be with the loss of part of our profits then to hazard all as I fear you do by the present separation One thing I humbly renew for your most serious consideration whether it be not adviseable to instruct your Hearers in the lawfulness and convenience of their communicating with us at least sometimes and perswading them there unto both by your teachi●g and example lest by the constant opposite practice their hearts be so alienated from the Temple worship that when you would reduce them to it you shall find it beyond your power To the Non-Conforming People FOr you that are our People who are neither gone away already or are under temptation to leave us I have very little encouragement to trouble you with my advice though I shall not say of you as the Author lately quoted doth of the P. 118. Conformists in his humble Petition to them that Satan hath got so great advantage that the wisest man living is uncapable of speaking rightly to them without offence However suffer though it be a kind of penance to you yet suffer a word or two of Exhortatation which I shall commend with better Authority to you then mine own 1. Suffer the Arguments both Conform as far as you can from duty and Peace and unity and charity to prevail with you to conform as far as you can And in what you cannot labour for satisfaction and if that cannot be had use any allowed means for the gratifying your selves in such things wherein you cannot conform but do not separate more then you must needs Is not this reasonable and proper advice ask Mr. Baxier ask the Author of the Answer to my Book ask the old Non-Conformists yea I appeal to your own Breasts if you would but suffer your selves seriously and impartially to consider it For surely Division is not to be chosen for it self and there can be no reason for the use of the dangerous Physick of Separation and rending and tearing the body of the Church beyond necessity There are three Questions or Cases of Conscience that would be throughly canvas'd and resolv'd before yo● Separate 1. Whether we may ordinarily leave our own Parish Ministers to hear others 2. Whether such as could and did communicate with the Parish Churches before the liberty can have any tolerable reason to separate now 3. Whether such as say they cannot in Conscience joine with us in all things have any ground to leave us in those Parts of worship they can The first is answered by the Old Non-Conformists particularly by the grave Mr. Hildersham in these words If thy Pastor saith he be approved of by the Church Conscionable in his place unblameable in his life though of inferiour Parts take heed thou leave him not 1. He may be a true Minister though inferiour to many others Mat. 25. 15. Which Argument the Apostle useth to perswade all members to unity Eph. 4. 7. You are bound to love and reverence him and thank God for him 1 Cor. 6. 10. 1 Thes 5. 13. Rom. 10. 15. Luke 10. 16. 3. Doubtless thou maist profit by him if the fault be not in thy self 1 Cor. 12. 7. 14. 31. 4. Our profit depends not on Ministers gifts but on Gods blessing 1 Cor. 3. 5 6 7 8. 5. None may usually and ordinarily leave his own Pastour so qualified as before for 1. As it is Gods own Ordinance that every own Pastour should have his own Flock to attend and take heed unto Act. 14. 23. So it is Gods Ordinance that every one of Gods People should have a Pastor of his own to attend upon 1 Pet. 5. 3. Now he cannot be said to depend upon his Pastour's Ministry that doth ordinarily and usually leave it and go to another He onely maketh a right use of the benefit of hearing such as have more excellent gifts then his own Pastour as leaneth thereby to his own Pastour the better and to profit more by him 6. If thou leavest thine own Pastour onely with a desire to edifie thy self 1. Do it with his consent and leave 2. Acknowledge thou owest a duty to him as to thy Superiour in the things that belong to thy Soul 1. Thes 5. 11. 3. Thou art bound to seek his comfort and to give him all good encouragement that he may do his work with joy and cheerfulness Heb. 13. 17. Hildersham upon the 4 th of John 2. The Second Case is touching such of you as could and did ●ommunicate with us in our Parish worship before the liberty granted ●y the late Declaration And is whether they can have any tolera●le Reason except their Judgements be since changed to sepa●ate now That they cannot I ●ope I have made to appear suf●ciently in other parts but if ●y Reasons may not be thought worthy your Consideration yet m● thinks 't is not in considerable that there are but two Persons that have set themselves to answer me and they have both of them yielded in this point Though they seem to be a little too exceptious in lesser matters The Author of the Book called Sacrilegious desertion of the holy Ministry rebuked c. delivereth himself in the Case fully to our purpose in these words As far as I can promise P. 76. saith he we will judge of you no worse then we have done no● deny any Communion with you which we have used and can use without neglecting ou● own work As I constantl● Joyn in my Parish Church in Liturgy and Sac●aments so I hop● to do while I live if I live under as honest a Minister at du● times The Author of the short Reflections upon Toleration not to be P. 37. abused is my other publick Adversary let us hear him also Who are they saith he who separate from them where they can have Communion with them I do not know I wish we could say so too Presbyterians I believe will not