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mention_v 1_o cor._n 12_o 28_o 29._o &_o rom._n 12_o 6._o be_v not_o distinct_a officer_n but_o only_o different_a operation_n of_o the_o same_o spirit_n and_o against_o this_o also_o he_o plead_v p._n 393._o n._n 11._o &_o 394._o to_o all_o which_o i_o answer_v distinct_o and_o particular_o that_o they_o can_v plead_v nothing_o from_o eph._n 4._o unless_o their_o church_n have_v all_o the_o officer_n there_o mention_v which_o it_o have_v not_o yea_o and_o which_o themselves_o affirm_v be_v cease_v such_o as_o prophet_n apostle_n which_o be_v say_v to_o be_v give_v for_o the_o work_n of_o the_o ministry_n and_o perfect_a of_o the_o saint_n nothing_o less_o than_o the_o other_o and_o by_o what_o authority_n do_v they_o then_o turn_v these_o by_o and_o
for_o any_o argument_n in_o this_o cahpt_a that_o have_v the_o least_o show_n of_o solidity_n or_o weight_n i_o have_v look_v narrow_o but_o can_v find_v none_o only_o in_o stead_n thereof_o he_o have_v some_o little_a nibble_a quibble_n and_o question_n which_o albeit_o they_o be_v so_o inconsiderable_a as_o scarce_o deserve_v the_o pain_n to_o answer_v yet_o leave_v he_o may_v think_v something_o of_o they_o if_o omit_v i_o will_v now_o take_v notice_n of_o they_o and_o answer_v they_o as_o first_o pag._n 412._o he_o ask_v whether_o the_o appoint_v of_o set_a time_n and_o place_n be_v not_o a_o limit_v of_o the_o spirit_n answ._n if_o it_o be_v to_o exclude_v other_o time_n and_o place_n when_o god_n move_v thereunto_o it_o may_v be_v so_o judge_v but_o other_o way_n it_o be_v not_o for_o meet_v together_o be_v not_o a_o immediate_a act_n of_o worship_n but_o a_o matter_n of_o outward_a conveniency_n and_o therefore_o need_v not_o always_o a_o particular_a motion_n as_o for_o his_o desire_v i_o in_o this_o page_n to_o answer_v what_o he_o have_v say_v of_o the_o sabbath_n the_o deny_v of_o which_o in_o their_o sense_n he_o account_v a_o great_a error_n i_o must_v wait_v then_o till_o he_o come_v to_o his_o matter_n which_o he_o have_v not_o do_v in_o his_o first_o tome_n which_o i_o have_v only_o see_v as_o yet_o albeit_o it_o be_v a_o book_n about_o a_o hundred_o sheet_n of_o paper_n and_o when_o he_o have_v write_v all_o that_o he_o can_v say_v upon_o that_o subject_n i_o doubt_v whether_o it_o may_v not_o be_v sufficient_o refute_v by_o a_o few_o line_n which_o calvin_n have_v write_v thereon_o inst._n lib._n 2._o cap._n 8._o §_o 34._o from_o who_o as_o well_o as_o the_o generality_n of_o protestant_n i_o know_v not_o that_o i_o differ_v in_o this_o matter_n pag._n 413._o he_o propose_v as_o a_o exception_n against_o the_o manner_n of_o worship_n express_v by_o i_o that_o it_o want_v that_o preparation_n requisite_a which_o he_o account_v to_o be_v some_o impression_n of_o that_o divine_a majesty_n with_o who_o they_o have_v to_o do_v but_o i_o see_v no_o reason_n why_o he_o shall_v accuse_v we_o for_o want_v of_o this_o since_o none_o can_v be_v more_o fit_a than_o such_o as_o make_v silence_n and_o a_o inward_a turn_n of_o the_o mind_n necessary_a to_o their_o enter_v to_o worship_n but_o if_o he_o understand_v this_o by_o outward_a prayer_n mean_v this_o shall_v be_v do_v first_o since_o it_o be_v a_o actual_a part_n of_o worship_n by_o which_o we_o draw_v near_o to_o that_o majesty_n there_o will_v be_v a_o preparation_n to_o that_o by_o the_o same_o rule_n and_o another_o to_o that_o and_o so_o a_o progressus_fw-la in_o infinitum_fw-la but_o a_o godly_a frame_n of_o spirit_n and_o a_o study_v to_o be_v find_v always_o in_o the_o sense_n of_o god_n holy_a fear_n in_o all_o thing_n be_v a_o good_a general_a preparation_n to_o all_o act_n of_o worship_n and_o for_o his_o cry_v out_o against_o silence_n as_o that_o which_o can_v not_o edify_v and_o think_v it_o so_o strange_a that_o life_n or_o virtue_n shall_v be_v transmit_v from_o one_o to_o another_o when_o they_o do_v not_o hear_v one_o another_o speak_v as_o pag._n 415._o 420._o 426._o what_o will_v he_o say_v to_o what_o be_v report_v by_o the_o foresay_a author_n of_o the_o fulfil_n of_o the_o scripture_n pag._n 432._o how_o robert_n bruce_n his_o pray_v cause_v unusual_a motion_n upon_o those_o who_o be_v not_o in_o the_o chamber_n with_o he_o nor_o know_v the_o cause_n how_o that_o come_v upon_o they_o and_o yet_o this_o be_v give_v as_o a_o instance_n of_o his_o knock_n down_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n upon_o they_o as_o they_o themselves_o phrase_n it_o pag._n 420._o he_o wonder_v &_o ask_v how_o one_o in_o who_o the_o life_n do_v flow_v so_o that_o he_o may_v speak_v yet_o may_v forbear_v since_o that_o be_v a_o sufficient_a call_n and_o how_o dare_v they_o follow_v their_o own_o choice_n but_o this_o be_v a_o silly_a quibble_n the_o flow_a of_o life_n may_v sometime_o give_v ability_n to_o speak_v justifiable_o and_o yet_o it_o may_v be_v no_o sin_n to_o forbear_v since_o albeit_o it_o give_v a_o sufficiency_n of_o authority_n yet_o not_o a_o peremptory_a command_n and_o this_o be_v no_o contradiction_n the_o apostle_n john_n can_v have_v write_v more_o and_o that_o no_o doubt_n from_o the_o spirit_n and_o yet_o do_v it_o not_o 2_o joh._n 12._o 3_o joh._n 13._o and_o i_o suppose_v i._n b_o will_v not_o dare_v to_o say_v he_o sin_v in_o this_o forbearance_n he_o go_v about_o pag._n 420._o n._n 12._o to_o examine_v the_o scripture_n proof_n i_o bring_v for_o wait_v and_o then_o he_o show_v in_o what_o respect_n wait_v be_v there_o understand_v which_o nothing_o hurt_v my_o use_v they_o what_o if_o wait_a be_v understand_v as_o he_o say_v in_o opposition_n to_o frete_v may_v not_o that_o be_v in_o silence_n but_o as_o to_o this_o since_o his_o brother_n r._n m._n in_o the_o postscript_n have_v promise_v we_o his_o answer_n to_o g._n k_n book_n call_v the_o way_n cast_v up_o we_o will_v wait_v to_o see_v what_o he_o answer_v to_o his_o 15_o sect_n and_o to_o the_o scripture_n bring_v by_o he_o there_o to_o this_o purpose_n and_o that_o he_o may_v more_o full_o consider_v that_o matter_n i_o recommend_v to_o he_o the_o serious_a perusal_n of_o g._n k_n book_n call_v the_o glory_n and_o advantage_n of_o silent_a meeting_n he_o allege_v false_o pag._n 423._o that_o i_o say_v man_n can_v not_o wait_v upon_o god_n in_o prayer_n i_o say_v only_o that_o wait_v in_o itself_o rather_o denote_v a_o passive_a dependence_n and_o that_o true_a prayer_n presuppose_v wait_v and_o that_o therefore_o their_o objection_n be_v frivolous_a that_o ascribe_v wait_v of_o itself_o or_o simple_o consider_v to_o such_o act_n but_o i_o never_o deny_v that_o a_o man_n in_o prayer_n may_v be_v say_v also_o to_o wait_v another_o of_o his_o silly_a quibble_n be_v pag._n 424._o n._n 17._o where_o because_o i_o say_v that_o the_o devil_n can_v only_o work_v in_o and_o by_o the_o natural_a man_n for_o so_o he_o may_v be_v please_v to_o translate_v my_o word_n or_o at_o lest_o he_o must_v suffer_v i_o so_o to_o do_v he_o say_v he_o think_v he_o can_v also_o work_v in_o a_o spiritual_a man_n as_o in_o peter_n etc._n etc._n but_o not_o in_o and_o by_o the_o spiritual_a man_n it_o be_v in_o and_o by_o the_o natural_a part_n both_o in_o peter_n and_o paul_n that_o he_o wrought_v if_o he_o think_v not_o so_o let_v he_o say_v the_o contrary_n pag._n 425._o in_o answer_n to_o what_o i_o say_v of_o the_o excellency_n of_o this_o worship_n as_o that_o which_o can_v not_o be_v interrupt_v to_o prove_v that_o christ_n kingdom_n need_v outward_a power_n to_o protect_v it_o he_o tell_v of_o the_o promise_n that_o king_n shall_v be_v nurse_v father_n what_o then_o that_o may_v be_v a_o advantage_n yet_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v there_o be_v a_o absolute_a need_n for_o it_o else_o christ_n kingdom_n can_v not_o be_v without_o it_o but_o indeed_o such_o a_o sure_a outward_a kingdom_n the_o priest_n always_o covet_v where_o they_o may_v be_v uphold_v by_o the_o magistrate_n and_o supply_v with_o daily_a augmentation_n and_o have_v all_o other_o that_o differ_v from_o they_o severe_o persecute_v for_o where_o this_o be_v want_v they_o cry_v out_o alas_o like_o babylon_n merchant_n and_o think_v it_o go_v not_o well_o with_o their_o zion_n the_o rest_n of_o this_o page_n he_o conclude_v with_o rail_v but_o for_o answer_v to_o it_o he_o may_v know_v that_o the_o quaker_n meeting_n in_o scotland_n albeit_o few_o in_o number_n have_v meet_v with_o more_o injury_n from_o wicked_a man_n than_o the_o presbyterian_o and_o that_o they_o never_o defendedh_fw-mi emselus_fw-la with_o force_n of_o arm_n against_o any_o far_o less_o against_o the_o magistrate_n as_o his_o brethren_n have_v do_v or_o with_o shed_v of_o blood_n as_o for_o his_o other_o quibble_n pag._n 427._o that_o cease_v to_o do_v evil_a be_v not_o without_o all_o action_n of_o the_o mind_n not_o to_o contend_v with_o he_o about_o it_o i_o shall_v not_o plead_v for_o a_o further_a cessation_n than_o such_o a_o simple_a forbearance_n import_v and_o let_v he_o call_v it_o a_o action_n if_o he_o will_n his_o chief_a reply_n to_o what_o i_o say_v in_o answer_n to_o what_o they_o object_n of_o silence_n beside_o some_o scoff_n be_v that_o what_o i_o allege_v be_v not_o speak_v of_o a_o introvert_v silence_n for_o he_o will_v needs_o use_v this_o latin_a word_n and_o not_o translate_v it_o but_o can_v there_o be_v any_o true_a silence_n in_o order_n or_o with_o respect_n to_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n where_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o mind_n
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