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A67270 Baptismōn didachē, the doctrine of baptisms, or, A discourse of dipping and sprinkling wherein is shewed the lawfulness of other ways of baptization, besides that of a total immersion, and objections against it answered / by William Walker ... Walker, William, 1623-1684. 1678 (1678) Wing W417; ESTC R39415 264,191 320

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infanti_fw-la imponitur_fw-la tum_fw-la in_fw-la cum_fw-la aquam_fw-la baptismi_fw-la minister_n effundit_fw-la inquiens_fw-la n._n baptizo_fw-la te_fw-la etc._n etc._n calvin_n tract_n theolog._n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la p._n 45._o which_o our_o reform_a divine_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o marian_n persecution_n have_v find_v to_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o other_o divine_n and_o see_v to_o be_v the_o practice_n of_o other_o church_n abroad_o and_o especial_o of_o mr._n calvin_n and_o his_o church_n at_o geneva_n for_o that_o great_a and_o lead_a man_n mr._n calvin_n who_o glory_n need_v not_o my_o taper_n to_o show_v it_o to_o the_o world_n as_o illustrious_o shine_v therein_o by_o its_o own_o native_a light_n who_o time_n be_v about_o an._n chr._n 1535._o though_o he_o grant_v the_o verb_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o signify_v to_o dip_v and_o say_v it_o for_o a_o certainty_n that_o the_o rite_n of_o dip_v be_v observe_v by_o the_o ancient_a church_n yet_o he_o say_v it_o be_v not_o material_a at_o all_o whether_o he_o that_o be_v baptize_v be_v total_o dip_v and_o that_o once_o or_o thrice_o or_o whether_o he_o be_v only_o sprinkle_v with_o water_n pour_v on_o he_o but_o that_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v free_a for_o the_o church_n to_o do_v as_o they_o think_v good_a in_o that_o according_a to_o the_o diversity_n of_o country_n wherein_o they_o be_v in_o this_o learned_a man_n judgement_n then_o sprinkle_v be_v lawful_a notwithstanding_o the_o signification_n of_o the_o word_n and_o use_v of_o the_o church_n to_o dip_v unless_o as_o i_o suppose_v he_o mean_v though_o he_o mention_v it_o not_o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n wherein_o it_o appear_v to_o have_v be_v the_o custom_n to_o sprinkle_v etc._n etc._n or_o else_o it_o can_v not_o be_v free_a for_o church_n to_o use_v it_o yea_o in_o the_o forth_o of_o administration_n of_o baptism_n write_v by_o this_o great_a man_n for_o the_o church_n of_o geneva_n the_o way_n of_o baptise_v as_o it_o be_v there_o by_o he_o set_v down_o be_v by_o pour_v out_o of_o water_n on_o the_o infant_n to_o be_v baptize_v §_o 108._o contemporary_a with_o calvin_n and_o somewhat_o before_o he_o be_v martin_n bucer_n flourish_v about_o an._n chr._n 1520._o and_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o god_n commend_v unto_o man_n such_o a_o rite_n as_o that_o by_o either_o the_o tinction_n ablution_n 1536._o porro_fw-la quòd_fw-la deus_fw-la ejusmodi_fw-la ritum_fw-la hominibus_fw-la commendavit_fw-la ut_fw-la aquae_fw-la vel_fw-la tinctione_n well_fw-mi ablutione_n aut_fw-la aspersione_n peccatorum_fw-la à_fw-la se_fw-la ablutionem_fw-la acciperent_fw-la &_o eam_fw-la per_fw-la publicos_fw-la religionum_fw-la administros_fw-la &_o hinc_fw-la denique_fw-la suum_fw-la cultum_fw-la semper_fw-la auspicarentur_fw-la causa_fw-la est_fw-la quòd_fw-la initium_fw-la &_o caput_fw-la salutis_fw-la nostrae_fw-la fidem_fw-la remissionis_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la gratuitae_fw-la justificationis_fw-la confirmare_fw-la hominibus_fw-la ●o_o pacto_fw-la &_o excitare_fw-la voluerit_fw-la m._n bucer_n enarrat_fw-la ep._n pauli_n ad_fw-la roman_n c._n 6._o p._n 289._o edit_fw-la 1536._o or_o aspersion_n of_o water_n they_o shall_v receive_v remission_n of_o sin_n and_o that_o by_o the_o public_a minister_n of_o the_o
sacramentis_fw-la c._n 21._o he_o see_v there_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d render_v tingere_fw-la and_o tingere_fw-la contradistinguish_v from_o immergere_fw-la that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v frequent_o in_o scripture_n take_v for_o wash_v and_o cleanse_v and_o that_o if_o i_o may_v guess_v be_v the_o thing_n that_o scare_v he_o §_o 26._o but_o after_o all_o this_o mr._n d._n have_v a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o salvo_fw-la to_o save_v himself_o whole_a from_o any_o thing_n that_o can_v be_v say_v against_o he_o for_o his_o omission_n and_o to_o that_o i_o shall_v now_o attend_v he_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o i._n e._n mr._n leigh_n say_v withal_o that_o some_o will_v have_v it_o to_o signify_v wash_v he_o may_v have_v be_v so_o kind_a as_o to_o have_v tell_v we_o who_o and_o which_o sense_n erasmus_n he_o say_v oppose_v affirm_v that_o it_o be_v not_o otherwise_o so_o than_o by_o consequence_n for_o the_o proper_a signification_n be_v such_o a_o dip_v or_o plunge_v as_o dyer_n use_v for_o die_v of_o clothes_n §_o 27._o he_o shall_v have_v tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o mr._n leigh_n himself_o as_o well_o as_o of_o other_o but_o then_o mr._n leigh_n testimony_n have_v be_v against_o he_o as_o well_o as_o for_o he_o and_o so_o have_v signify_v nothing_o to_o his_o advantage_n for_o to_o grant_v it_o signify_v dip_v and_o yet_o to_o say_v as_o mr._n leigh_n do_v that_o it_o signify_v sprinkle_v too_o spoil_v all_o and_o will_v do_v the_o dipper_n no_o service_n §_o 28._o and_o whereas_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o mr._n leigh_n say_v erasmus_n oppose_v that_o sense_n affirm_v that_o it_o be_v not_o otherwise_o so_o than_o by_o consequence_n i_o answer_v first_o that_o if_o it_o be_v but_o any_o way_n so_o whether_o direct_o or_o by_o consequence_n it_o be_v all_o one_o to_o our_o purpose_n and_o will_v do_v our_o business_n as_o well_o let_v it_o but_o signify_v wash_v and_o that_o as_o distinct_a from_o dip_v and_o then_o whether_o it_o signify_v so_o direct_o or_o by_o consequence_n baptise_v will_v not_o necessary_o import_v dip_v second_o i_o answer_v that_o mr._n leigh_n do_v not_o say_v that_o erasmus_n oppose_v that_o sense_n but_o that_o which_o he_o say_v be_v this_o that_o whereas_o the_o vulg._n latin_n render_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o mark_n 7.4_o by_o baptizentur_fw-la he_o tell_v we_o in_o his_o margin_n from_o beza_n on_o mark_n 7._o that_o erasmus_n deserve_o change_v it_o inasmuch_o as_o in_o that_o place_n the_o discourse_n be_v not_o of_o that_o solemn_a wash_n whereunto_o say_v beza_n now_o by_o long_a usage_n of_o all_o church_n the_o term_n of_o baptism_n have_v be_v dedicate_v and_o consecrate_a nor_o indeed_o say_v beza_n not_o erasmus_n do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v lavare_fw-la but_o by_o consequence_n for_o proper_o it_o signify_v to_o dip_v in_o order_n unto_o die_v which_o he_o prove_v by_o instance_n from_o plutarch_n and_o nazianz._n as_o may_v be_v see_v in_o his_o note_n on_o mark_n 7._o v._o 4._o nor_o do_v any_o body_n deny_v its_o signify_v to_o dip_v the_o grant_n of_o it_o be_v no_o way_n prejudicial_a to_o our_o hypothesis_n which_o proceed_v not_o on_o what_o the_o word_n primary_o and_o strict_o note_v in_o its_o first_o imposition_n and_o use_n but_o on_o what_o it_o be_v use_v secondary_o and_o more_o general_o to_o import_v in_o the_o scripture_n and_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n and_o that_o as_o we_o have_v show_v in_o these_o paper_n be_v a_o wash_n in_o order_n unto_o the_o attain_n of_o those_o spiritual_a end_n ordain_v by_o the_o institutor_n of_o that_o sacrament_n however_o perform_v whether_o by_o dip_v or_o by_o sprinkle_v by_o put_v into_o water_n or_o by_o pour_v of_o water_n on_o the_o party_n baptize_v and_o the_o reader_n of_o this_o author_n write_n may_v do_v well_o from_o hence_o to_o take_v warning_n that_o he_o be_v not_o too_o hasty_a in_o give_v credit_n to_o such_o a_o writer_n quotation_n as_o in_o his_o report_n from_o author_n take_v a_o liberty_n to_o chap_v and_o change_v to_o put_v in_o or_o leave_v out_o as_o may_v best_o serve_v not_o the_o truth_n but_o his_o own_o advantage_n §_o 28._o i_o can_v before_o i_o pass_v hence_o but_o propose_v to_o the_o consideration_n of_o mr._n d._n or_o any_o else_o that_o insist_v on_o that_o notion_n of_o beza_n that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d proper_o signify_v to_o dip_v in_o order_n unto_o die_v whether_o any_o dip_v that_o be_v do_v not_o in_o order_n unto_o die_v be_v proper_o a_o baptism_n or_o no_o if_o not_o then_o unless_o they_o dip_v when_o they_o baptize_v in_o order_n unto_o die_v they_o be_v no_o baptism_n no_o more_o than_o we_o because_o though_o they_o be_v a_o dip_v yet_o it_o be_v not_o a_o dip_v in_o order_n unto_o die_v if_o it_o be_v as_o they_o must_v say_v it_o be_v because_o it_o be_v impossible_a otherwise_o to_o justify_v their_o own_o way_n to_o be_v a_o lawful_a baptise_v then_o i_o infer_v either_o that_o christian_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o stand_v always_o no_o not_o in_o sacramental_a rite_n to_o the_o proper_a and_o strict_a signification_n of_o word_n and_o so_o we_o be_v free_a from_o blame_n as_o to_o that_o in_o what_o we_o practise_v as_o well_o as_o they_o or_o else_o they_o be_v guilty_a in_o what_o they_o practise_v as_o well_o as_o we_o in_o that_o they_o deviate_v in_o their_o practice_n from_o the_o divine_a institution_n not_o act_v according_o to_o the_o proper_a import_n of_o the_o word_n in_o it_o for_o though_o they_o stick_v close_o to_o the_o act_n and_o dip_v yet_o they_o deviate_v from_o the_o end_n of_o the_o act_n and_o dip_v not_o for_o die_v and_o it_o be_v the_o end_n that_o specify_v the_o action_n §_o 29._o and_o again_o i_o propose_v whether_o the_o insist_v so_o strict_o on_o this_o notion_n of_o the_o word_n do_v not_o tend_v to_o the_o strengthen_n of_o the_o papist_n in_o their_o notion_n of_o a_o indelible_a character_n introduce_v by_o baptism_n on_o the_o soul_n for_o if_o baptise_v be_v according_a to_o the_o proper_a signification_n of_o the_o word_n a_o dip_v in_o order_n unto_o die_v and_o there_o be_v no_o dye_n bring_v by_o the_o baptismal_a water_n on_o the_o body_n it_o remain_v that_o by_o baptise_v there_o be_v a_o dye_n bring_v upon_o the_o soul_n and_o that_o be_v or_o may_v be_v the_o character_n they_o contend_v for_o if_o this_o be_v not_o to_o be_v grant_v then_o be_v not_o that_o notion_n fit_a to_o be_v receive_v or_o insist_v on_o but_o to_o be_v cashier_v the_o next_o author_n that_o call_v for_o our_o attendance_n be_v salmatius_n and_o he_o in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr prim._n papae_fw-la p._n 193._o say_v as_o mr._n d._n tell_v we_o that_o be_v not_o baptism_n they_o give_v to_o child_n but_o rhantism_n §_o 30._o i_o hope_v mr._n d._n report_v the_o author_n right_a not_o have_v he_o by_o i_o to_o examine_v and_o if_o it_o be_v true_a that_o he_o so_o say_v which_o the_o reader_n may_v do_v well_o to_o demur_v upon_o till_o he_o have_v the_o opportunity_n to_o see_v it_o in_o the_o author_n than_o i_o answer_v to_o he_o that_o the_o word_n baptism_n may_v be_v consider_v either_o more_o strict_o as_o signify_v in_o particular_a immersion_n or_o dip_v as_o it_o be_v most_o use_v in_o profane_a author_n or_o more_o large_o as_o signify_v in_o general_a any_o wash_n and_o as_o it_o be_v use_v in_o christian_a writer_n to_o denote_v that_o sacramental_a wash_n whereby_o we_o be_v initiate_v into_o the_o church_n however_o perform_v whether_o by_o put_v into_o water_n or_o by_o pour_v water_n upon_o if_o we_o take_v baptism_n in_o the_o first_o and_o strict_a sense_n than_o it_o be_v not_o baptism_n they_o give_v to_o child_n for_o sprinkle_v be_v not_o dip_v but_o if_o we_o take_v it_o in_o the_o second_o than_o it_o be_v for_o to_o sprinkle_v with_o the_o due_a form_n of_o word_n be_v to_o baptize_v and_o so_o this_o testimony_n be_v either_o impertinent_a or_o untrue_a let_v mr._n d._n choose_v which_o he_o will_v have_v it_o to_o be_v §_o 31._o after_o he_o follow_v casaubon_n and_o he_o in_o his_o annotation_n upon_o matth._n 3._o annex_v to_o the_o new_a testament_n set_v forth_o by_o stephens_n as_o mr._n d._n tell_v we_o say_v that_o immerge_v be_v the_o proper_a right_n in_o baptism_n which_o the_o word_n itself_o he_o say_v sufficient_o declare_v which_o as_o it_o signify_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o go_v down_o to_o the_o bottom_n without_o any_o ascend_n so_o not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o swim_n like_o a_o cork_n above_o the_o water_n but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d