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A52586	An ansvver to a passage in Mr. Baxter's book, intituled, A key for Catholicks, beginning pag. 321, concerning the King's being put to death by John Nanfan, Esq.	Nanfan, John.	1660 (1660)	Wing N148; ESTC R3575	45,130	57

natural when a party acts in a joynt wickedness and cruelty and after grow into difference the less able party will ever dislike what the other go thorow with to act and pretend to a greater Justice and Moderation when it is acted by others and out of their Power but more of this in the following Object It is known that before they were put out and imprisoned by the Army the Commons voted the King's Concessions in the Treaty to be so far satisfactory as that they would have proceeded on them towards a full agreement See Mr. Prin's large Speech in the house to that end And if they had not suddenly been secluded and imprisoned they had agreed with the King Answ This was when they had no other Interest left them but that of the King 's which they had laid by and trampled upon perpetually till now they must lose all unless they held by that How endless and insatiate were they in exercising their own greatness upon the King's weakness the People perpetually defrauded of the Accommodation by them thirsted after Never any thing satisfactory though they had all and playing with this their own fortune and most delectable greatness too long at length as all new excessive things are incident to change the accidents by him mentioned fell in amongst themselves and they were voting conclusions with the King just the instant before they brake Some secluded some made Prisoners some to avoid worse fled out of the Land It is the mis-fortune and condition of Tyrants to be subject to their own Power and Slaves to it An Army especially that servs but to Subjects against their Soveraign will though humble and obedient at first as all such things are grow insolent as to equals treat conditions and have other Interests It is like a hand-Wolf that though he will be played with for a time yet his Keepers and Masters are Subject to be torn in pieces by him upon the change of his humour Such was this their Army a hand-Wolf too long played with till it grew to know its own strength and to consider that all Rights were alike against the King and amongst the People And then for the Nature of the Agreement with the King It was that for some time he should have been without his Power and all agreements with a King that vest him not in his Power are nothing at all in consideration to a King for a future restoring or for security against the present Power they are things that cannot be and any intervening time would have raised new accidents from so great an impending cause the greatest in the World beyond and above all conditions and not being can have no assurance of future being I call to mind a Passage in a Book called A Plea for Parliaments supposed to be written by Sir Walter Rawley that it was moved in Parliament in Queen Maryes time that if she should dy leaving Issue King Philip the Father and now Matrimonial King should hold the Kingdom till the Issue came of Age to govern and strong bonds should be given for the Surrender And a certain Lord none of the wisest saith the story who had sate silent during the whole Debate at last boulted out this Question Who should sue those bonds against the King They were all presently surprized and so it fell not a word more of it As much as to say An absolute Power in possession is above all Condition Object One thing I shall call him back to that is saying That Multitudes who are now firm and loyall to the present Power supposing it to be set over us by God and therefore would abhor the like practices against them do yet detest that Fact that intervened and made way to it Answ I would desire to be satisfied how Mr. Baxter can reconcile his Divinity This Power set over us by God therefore not to act against it The King's Power either not in his sense set over us by God or else why did he act against it If he say to reform it then why not this Are all things so satisfactory to him in this as needs no Reformation The other Power of the King 's peradventure in his sense was not set over us by God But how this is I would desire him to distinguish and when and where he would make a stop to man's acting I should be very glad that the World were satisfied with it that Supream Power should be unquestionable I would trust God and Man and humane casual events with my share out of it because I see pretended Reformations never countervail the mischief of Rebellions But in the mean time I desire him to distinguish betwixt these two Interests why he is indulgent to this now and so much an Actor and Engineer imploying his Divinity Learning and Passion against the old Let me still hold him to this his own ground Set over us by God Whether he means of God's general Providence as the great Governour of the World and so assigning Governours subordinate or else that he means it in special to this out of his fancy or favour to it I would have him distinguish and I am prepared for him with a further inquiry But in the mean time because I know not my future opportunities I shall further trouble him I suppose he will not otherwise call or account it Set over us by God then as all other wicked things come to pass as this did through the blood and death of the King which intervening cause he denotes detestable Now what obligation extraordinary and which the former Government did not this throws upon man is my Inquiry Where shall man's Wisdom act or rest This done by man and why may not man undo his own Work Is there a Fate upon him in one Action more than in another if Reason doth nor state a difference Is his Divinity otherwise intelligible to him than by his Reason Does he act freely in some things and not in all Are some things of God and not all things If he will say the being of Kings and Supream Governours should oblige an unquestionable Obedience let him answer then for destroying the former Is a less Attribute due to a rightful King than to his Destroyer His intended Reformation by a War intended no less than destroying his Power to resist Besides it will be very hard for him even in his own sense to determine betwixt a true King driven or kept out and a King in Fact and by Usurpation and King-killing which should draw to it the Right and Obligation of Conscience and likewise hard for him to resolve when the new is so settled the other in being though out of possessing as to make Obedience entire Therefore surely it were best God were left out who in these our miserable times hath been made a Stale and a Colour for all the cruelties men have committed Certainly Divinity in understanding the Will of God admits of some distinction betwixt things done

AN ANSVVER TO A PASSAGE IN Mr. Baxters Book INTITULED A Key for Catholicks Beginning pag. 321. concerning the KING'S being put to Death By John Nanfan Esq LONDON Printed for John Jones Book-Seller in Worcester To the Reader I Know not why I should endeavour to please or satisfy concerning this that I throw it abroad which was solitary and private to me in the worst of times or any such Apologies or endeavours or essayes to take off censure It were too much submitting and subjecting to others let the matter and subject it self speak for it and let others condescend their Judgments to it and that is all that is desired It has no end out of it self Particular Reasons I have as that there is as good warrant in me to take off Mr. Baxter's presumptive violent injurious Arguments against Kings and Governments as he to assert them the cause is his he the assailant I am but the Defendant The sally out into the World and into so great an Interest as Kings Governments and terms of submission to them and when in some cases the people to kill and slay and destroy all these great exorbitant monstrous considerations come from Mr. Baxter he hath stated cases fixed them to Posterity that they may be fruitfull to generate in the World mine but an Arrest upon him both to redeem truth and likewise to let the World know that great Writers may contain much iniquity in them and how the World is to beware of them But why do I entertain the Reader at the Porch or without the Door and seem to intreat him to like the structure within which he is to behold Therefore I give it off only this that it speaks that time that disconsolate condition then it was made to and making it now another thing is not my end but to shew and represent the same for every thing has its rectitude in respect of the point it tends to And this good in it that though the subject sad yet it raises more considerations out of it and from it for we have our enjoyment from good times but our information more from bad And besides these considerations are general so as no time o●●● them truths that are not particular in their nature have an eternity in them And for ought we know there is as great a Wisdome required to retain our Government as to attain to it that lay but in one design and easily done because not discerned in the doing this is of a perpetual providence and perpetual danger and enmity against it and we are to betake our selves to all considerations wherein our good and evill is contained and publick good is the great end the wheel and sway and compass to all motions all particulars but considered in it AN ANSVVER TO A PASSAGE IN Mr. BAXTERS Book INTITULED A Key for Catholicks Beginning pag. 321. concerning the Kings being put to Death HE begins thus Concerning the Death of the King I shall not meddle at this time with the cause nor meddle with the Reasons brought for it or against it Answ It will appear by so much as concerns me to answer to whether Mr. Baxter meddle with the Cause or not This pretended abstemiousness is but to make it pierce the deeper and to ●ake his strength more considerable He is as great an Assertor of it as possibly he can find matter to make it speculatively true though in fact he keeps out of it Whilst he vies Interests with the Papists he takes upon him to hold the Ballance this of murdering the King in manner and form of it in one end of the Scale and that of the Popes cursing Kings and consequently murdering of them in the other and he finds his leighter by much which is the triumph of his cause and to this he does abet all his strength to make it good which is by making the evil of it less so as this is the very state of his Cause and you shall see him appearing in it by degrees like a winding stairs till he comes up to the top I shall take all his by way of Objections and answer to it Object The Providence of God hath so contrived it that nothing but ignorance or blind malice can lay it upon the Protestants Episcopal or Presbyterian that strove so much against it and suffered so much for it as they have done Answ In this he doth confound Interests to joyn the Episcopal with the Presbyterian I am very confident the Episcopal would not mix with any other Interest in such a defence and to peece them to the Presbyterian is an abuse It is a kind of Policy to defend a corrupt cause by taking into it that which cannot be denyed to be just and clear in it self and under colour of that to cry up the whole Not that I mean to condemn the Presbyterians directly for the Kings Death I leave that to particular Arguments as they fall out and to be understood in a just medium in it relating to Presbyterians and Protestants both that acted But his further Object When many on the other side charged the Scots and the Imprisoned Ministers of London with those that were put to death for going too far on the other side in manifesting their distasts of which I take not on me to be Judg but mention it onely as Evidence that clears them from the Deed. Answ How cautious Mr. Baxter is that he will not take upon him to be Judg who were in the right of those two parties one the Presbyterians that disliked the putting the King to Death and the other that acted it and were angry with them for disliking and expressing their dislikes He is very wary in this here with his reserves and savings that he does declare it only as matter of fact so tender is he not to engage too far to judg or conclude any thing in it This makes me doubt that in some passages hereafter where he calls it odious and detestable that he has a latitude in those expressions for an Act may have those epithite● and yet possibly be lawful Now whether there may not be some thing of this in it though he declares against the fact I may doubt because of his denying here to condemn it Certainly he that in his Soul has not a full abhorrency to it is of the infection of it and no other construction can be made He goes on Object To vindicate the Protestants openly before all the World and to all posterity from that fact it is most publickly known that both Houses of Parliament in their protestations engaged themselves and the Nation to be true to the King Answ This was but in order to the War which they were forming against the King It was made the very means of raising the People by whom the War must be acted Upon a plain down-right way of fighting against the King could have had no colour with the People who are always in such popular confusions to be