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for_o it_o a_o plentiful_a and_o clear_a attestation_n of_o many_o learned_a godly_a and_o famous_a divine_n both_o new_a and_o old_a confirm_v our_o faith_n and_o strengthen_v our_o conscience_n therein_o which_o attestation_n i_o have_v think_v it_o needful_a at_o this_o time_n and_o in_o this_o place_n to_o gather_v and_o produce_v for_o many_o cause_n first_o my_o desire_n be_v that_o it_o may_v lie_v open_a to_o the_o sight_n of_o all_o man_n what_o a_o great_a &_o holy_a agreement_n of_o good_a man_n herein_o we_o have_v which_o be_v add_v to_o the_o forenote_v fundamental_a certainty_n thereof_o in_o god_n word_n give_v so_o full_a a_o satisfaction_n to_o every_o good_a christian_a that_o who_o can_v desire_v more_o second_o all_o christian_a civil_a magistrate_n may_v hereby_o take_v good_a content_n and_o be_v satisfy_v touch_v the_o innocence_n of_o this_o way_n in_o the_o church_n government_n which_o we_o hold_v for_o when_o they_o shall_v see_v with_o what_o a_o cloud_n of_o such_o witness_n we_o be_v compass_v in_o defence_n of_o this_o matter_n they_o can_v not_o imagine_v any_o inconvenience_n by_o it_o to_o their_o government_n notwithstanding_o all_o the_o clamour_n and_o invective_n of_o partial_a adversary_n against_o it_o last_o hereby_o also_o our_o adversary_n virulent_a tongue_n and_o pen_n if_o it_o be_v possible_a may_v be_v ashamed_a to_o abuse_v we_o as_o they_o do_v with_o all_o kind_n of_o unworthy_a reproach_n and_o slander_n when_o they_o shall_v see_v who_o they_o hate_v and_o persecute_v &_o revile_v together_o with_o us._n wherefore_o for_o the_o publish_n of_o this_o matter_n there_o appear_v every_o way_n very_o great_a and_o necessary_a reason_n chap._n ii_o the_o method_n and_o order_n of_o this_o treatise_n now_o herein_o i_o purpose_v to_o proceed_v thus_o first_o i_o will_v show_v who_o among_o the_o new_a writer_n be_v our_o master_n &_o teacher_n in_o this_o point_n of_o doctrine_n
in_o a_o synod_n but_o it_o be_v in_o the_o power_n and_o free_a like_n of_o every_o parish_n who_o only_o have_v power_n to_o exclude_v from_o the_o church_n communion_n the_o impudent_a sinner_n if_o we_o look_v thorough_o into_o the_o wordeâ—_n which_o be_v in_o math_n 18._o we_o may_v find_v he_o only_o to_o be_v excommunicate_a who_o the_o common_a consent_n of_o that_o church_n where_o the_o man_n dwell_v have_v shut_v out_o again_o missae_fw-la again_o epichirifis_n de_fw-fr ganone_o missae_fw-la est_fw-la particularis_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ea_fw-la cuâ—_n preceptum_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la morbidum_fw-la membrum_fw-la resecet_fw-la math._n 18._o quales_fw-la ea_fw-la corinthi_n ad_fw-la quam_fw-la seribit_fw-la paulus_n &_o aliae_fw-la quarum_fw-la se_fw-la curam_fw-la gereâ—â—dicat_fw-la &_o quibus_fw-la se_fw-la pari_fw-la modo_fw-la docere_fw-la asserit_fw-la â—nquiens_fw-la sollicitudo_fw-la omnium_fw-la ecclesiarun_n &_o sicut_fw-la 〈◊〉_d omnibus_fw-la ecclesijs_fw-la doceo_fw-la that_o be_v a_o parti_fw-la ulat_z church_n which_o be_v command_v to_o cut_v of_o the_o infect_a member_n math._n 18._o â—_o chap._n â—_o such_o as_o that_o of_o corinth_n be_v to_o which_o paul_n write_v and_o other_o which_o he_o say_v be_v have_v care_n of_o and_o in_o which_o he_o affirm_v that_o he_o teach_v altogether_o alike_o say_v the_o care_n of_o all_o church_n and_o as_o i_o teach_v in_o all_o church_n and_o concern_v call_v to_o the_o ministry_n he_o say_v ecclesiasteâ—_n say_v ecclesiasteâ—_n †_o it_o seem_v that_o there_o be_v nothing_o so_o agreeable_a to_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n and_o to_o the_o old_a institution_n as_o that_o all_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o the_o faithful_a among_o a_o people_n together_o with_o certain_a learned_a and_o godly_a bishop_n and_o other_o faithful_a man_n have_v skill_n in_o thing_n shall_v choose_v a_o pastor_n and_o after_o again_o let_v therefore_o these_o proud_a bishop_n and_o foolish_a abbot_n go_v shake_v their_o â—ares_n for_o it_o be_v convenient_a that_o the_o right_n of_o the_o election_n shall_v be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o faithful_a instruct_v by_o the_o counsel_n of_o learned_a man_n moreover_o he_o write_v thus_o compar_fw-la thus_o ad_fw-la valent_n compar_fw-la he_o that_o with_o a_o council_n of_o bishop_n shall_v impose_v on_o christian_a people_n any_o law_n or_o observation_n at_o their_o own_o like_n he_o mean_v without_o the_o people_n consent_n hic_fw-la violento_fw-la imperio_fw-la ius_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la invadit_fw-la he_o invade_v the_o church_n right_a by_o a_o violent_a command_n and_o therefore_o such_o bishop_n as_o thus_o do_v absque_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la without_o the_o church_n consent_n statuentes_fw-la suâ_fw-la libidine_fw-la 64._o artic._n 64._o decree_a at_o their_o own_o pleasure_n he_o say_v be_v nomine_fw-la tenus_fw-la episcopi_fw-la reverà _fw-la tyranni_fw-la in_o name_n bishop_n but_o in_o deed_n tyrant_n and_o thus_o much_o out_o of_o this_o holy_a man_n of_o god_n and_o noble_a witness_n of_o christ_n master_n zuinglius_fw-la master_n luther_n another_o mighty_a and_o luther_n luther_n principal_a champion_n for_o god_n truth_n at_o the_o same_o time_n write_v a_o special_a treatise_n which_o have_v this_o title_n 374._o title_n tom._n 2._o pag._n 374._o quod_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la â—us_fw-la &_o potestatem_fw-la habeat_fw-la indicandi_fw-la de_fw-la quavis_fw-la doctrinâ_fw-la item_n vocandi_fw-la ministros_fw-la evangelij_fw-la aut_fw-la si_fw-la fideles_fw-la esse_fw-la desierint_fw-la deponendi_fw-la that_o the_o people_n the_o in_o this_o word_n he_o signify_v the_o congregation_n of_o the_o people_n church_n have_v the_o right_a &_o power_n to_o judge_v of_o any_o doctrine_n also_o of_o call_v the_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n or_o if_o they_o cease_v to_o be_v faithful_a to_o depose_v they_o what_o can_v be_v more_o for_o we_o then_o this_o be_v in_o another_o place_n he_o say_v a._n say_v pag._n 369._o b._n chemnic_n examp_n part_n 2.27_o a._n clave_n sunt_fw-la totius_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la the_o key_n belong_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o private_a mass_n he_o speak_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o his_o time_n thus_o spiritus_fw-la sanctus_n vui_fw-la civitats_n plures_fw-la constituit_fw-la episcopos_fw-la vos_fw-fr singuli_fw-la estis_fw-la pluribus_fw-la quâ_fw-la authoritate_fw-la nun_n ipsius_fw-la satanae_n &_o c_o the_o holy_a ghost_n appoint_v to_o one_o city_n many_o bishop_n but_o you_o be_v one_o bishop_n to_o many_o city_n by_o what_o authority_n be_v it_o not_o of_o satan_n himself_o by_o you_o oppose_v against_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n we_o conclude_v therefore_o bold_o that_o you_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n &_o the_o h_n ghost_n decree_n be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o to_o be_v call_v bishop_n but_o rather_o adversary_n and_o destroyer_n both_o of_o bishop_n and_o of_o the_o divine_a decree_n concern_v the_o appoint_v of_o bishop_n again_o in_o his_o book_n against_o the_o false_o name_v order_n of_o bishop_n he_o say_v 322._o say_v pag._n 322._o at_o citra_fw-la iocum_fw-la vides_fw-la palam_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o without_o jest_n thou_o see_v open_o that_o the_o apostle_n paul_n call_v only_o they_o bishop_n which_o do_v preach_v the_o gospel_n and_o minister_n sacrament_n to_o the_o people_n as_o in_o our_o time_n the_o parish_n minister_n and_o preacher_n do_v therefore_o i_o believe_v without_o doubt_n that_o they_o by_o fight_n possess_v the_o title_n and_o name_n of_o bishop_n and_o in_o another_o treatise_n b._n treatise_n de_fw-fr ministâ—_n eccles_n instituendâ—_n pag._n 365._o b._n donabo_fw-la hoc_fw-la ordmibus_fw-la papisticis_fw-la quod_fw-la solius_fw-la episcopi_fw-la autoritate_fw-la instituuntur_fw-la quos_fw-la vocant_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la consensu_fw-la aut_fw-la suffragio_fw-la populi_fw-la cvi_fw-la preficiendi_fw-la sunt_fw-la neque_fw-la requisito_fw-la 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