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in_o communion_n with_o she_o be_v as_o much_o distinct_a from_o the_o particular_a church_n of_o rome_n as_o the_o suburb_n of_o london_n and_o city_n of_o westminster_n be_v from_o the_o city_n of_o london_n sect._n 2._o beside_o there_o be_v great_a difference_n between_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o the_o particular_a church_n of_o rome_n the_o roman_a church_n and_o the_o catholic_a be_v synonama_n signify_v one_o and_o the_o same_o thing_n and_o though_o in_o that_o demand_n of_o mr._n t._n b._n the_o church_n of_o rome_n may_v in_o sensu_fw-la diviso_fw-la be_v limit_v to_o the_o particular_a church_n or_o diocese_n of_o rome_n yet_o in_o sensu_fw-la composito_fw-la that_o be_v be_v join_v to_o the_o follow_a word_n be_v those_o in_o communion_n with_o her_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v of_o as_o full_a and_o ample_a laâ—itude_n and_o extension_n as_o the_o whole_a catholic_a church_n and_o thus_o may_v be_v answer_v that_o trivial_a and_o childish_a objection_n against_o 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be_v his_o vicar_n on_o earth_n
unanimiter_fw-la &_o nobiscum_fw-la conspirat_fw-la basil_n epist_n 293._o here_o you_o see_v the_o whole_a western_a church_n vindicate_v from_o that_o heresy_n which_o doubtless_o s._n hilary_n well_o know_v those_o then_o in_o france_n that_o retain_v their_o ancient_a faith_n keep_v themselves_o within_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o roman_a catholic_a church_n from_o who_o communion_n never_o yet_o any_o separate_v but_o schismatic_n and_o heretic_n 34._o the_o nâ—xâ—_n father_n of_o the_o church_n that_o i_o mâ—et_v with_o be_v archbishop_n lawd_n as_o you_o be_v please_v to_o call_v he_o who_o authority_n you_o have_v often_o cite_v which_o i_o can_v but_o wonder_v at_o since_o he_o be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v a_o father_n that_o he_o neither_o liuâ—d_v nor_o die_v a_o son_n of_o the_o church_n but_o the_o doctor_n out_o of_o that_o pretend_a arch-bishop_n book_n charge_v â—hâ—_n church_n of_o rome_n with_o four_o opinion_n â—â—pugnant_a to_o thâ—_n plâ—in_a word_n of_o scripture_n viz._n 1._o transubstantiation_n 2_o administration_n of_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n to_o the_o laity_n in_o one_o kind_n 3._o invocation_n of_o saint_n 4._o adoration_n of_o image_n answ_n though_o it_o be_v not_o much_o pertinent_a to_o our_o present_a purpose_n to_o examine_v these_o doctrine_n according_a to_o scripture_n since_o the_o doctor_n confâ—ssâ—s_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n notwithstanding_o her_o error_n be_v a_o trâ—â—_n church_n and_o a_o member_n of_o the_o one_o catholic_n sect._n 12._o yet_o because_o he_o believe_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v just_o charge_v with_o thâ—se_a â—nsound_a and_o un-catholike_a doctrine_n as_o â—â—_o be_v please_v to_o caâ—â—_n they_o i_o can_v not_o pass_v they_o by_o but_o shall_v endeavour_v as_o brief_o as_o may_v be_v to_o vindicate_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n from_o that_o foul_a and_o false_a calumny_n 35_o first_n then_o transubstantiation_n according_a to_o the_o roman_a catholic_a doctrine_n be_v a_o true_a and_o real_a change_n of_o the_o total_a substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n after_z and_o by_o virtue_n of_o the_o word_n of_o consecration_n pronounce_v by_o the_o priest_n into_o the_o true_a real_a and_o substantial_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n let_v we_o now_o examine_v how_o this_o doctrine_n be_v repugnant_a to_o the_o plain_a word_n of_o scripture_n our_o bless_a saviour_n say_v matth._n 26._o 26_o and_o maâ—_n 14._o 22._o this_o be_v my_o body_n and_o this_o be_v my_o blood_n the_o word_n be_v plain_a and_o be_v take_v literal_o must_v necessary_o import_v a_o change_n for_o that_o which_o be_v before_o bread_n and_o wine_n after_o our_o saviour_n consecration_n be_v according_a to_o the_o proper_a and_o literal_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n the_o very_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n where_o be_v then_o the_o repugnancy_n between_o this_o doctrine_n and_o the_o plain_a word_n of_o scripture_n christ_n say_v of_o that_o which_o be_v bread_n and_o wine_n this_o be_v my_o body_n and_o this_o be_v my_o blood_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n say_v so_o â—oo_o instead_o then_o of_o a_o repugnancy_n here_o be_v a_o fulâ—_n consent_n and_o agreement_n between_o the_o plain_a wordâ—_n of_o our_o saviour_n and_o thâ—_n doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n well_o but_o the_o word_n be_v not_o to_o be_v take_v literal_o but_o figurative_o be_v it_o so_o then_o be_v this_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n repugnant_a at_o the_o most_o but_o to_o the_o figurative_a sense_n not_o to_o the_o plain_a word_n or_o literal_a sense_n of_o scripture_n but_o to_o come_v close_o if_o the_o doctor_n can_v produce_v any_o one_o text_n of_o scripture_n that_o shall_v be_v but_o half_a as_o plain_a for_o the_o metaphorical_a or_o figurative_a sense_n or_o that_o the_o creature_n of_o '_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v not_o real_o and_o substantial_o change_v into_o the_o very_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n after_o consecration_n but_o retain_v their_o former_a nature_n and_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n as_o these_o word_n of_o christ_n be_v for_o such_o a_o change_n i_o will_v then_o for_o my_o part_n give_v the_o cause_n and_o turn_v protesiant_a too_o or_o any_o thing_n else_o that_o doctor_n boughen_n shall_v command_v i_o to_o be_v but_o if_o he_o can_v produce_v any_o such_o text_n as_o most_o certain_o he_o can_v then_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o protestant_n and_o not_o that_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n repugnant_a to_o the_o plain_a word_n of_o scripture_n 36_o but_o to_o justify_v yourselves_o and_o to_o avoid_v the_o catholic_a doctrine_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n and_o transubstatiation_n you_o thus_o interpret_v those_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n etc._n etc._n viz._n this_o be_v a_o sign_n or_o figure_n of_o my_o body_n but_o what_o scripture_n have_v you_o for_o it_o what_o authority_n what_o catholic_a father_n what_o council_n do_v ever_o give_v that_o interpetation_n of_o those_o word_n i_o confess_v if_o there_o be_v no_o true_a and_o real_a change_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n into_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n then_o will_v i_o also_o admit_v of_o that_o interpretation_n for_o if_o there_o be_v no_o such_o change_n then_o of_o necessity_n those_o creature_n of_o brâ—ad_n and_o wine_n can_v be_v but_o bare_a sign_n and_o figure_n only_o of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n but_o behold_v god_n providence_n over_o his_o church_n the_o holy_a ghost_n before_o see_v the_o evasion_n and_o shift_n that_o some_o man_n will_v use_v to_o delude_v the_o world_n and_o to_o poison_v the_o church_n with_o their_o heretical_a doctrine_n in_o opposition_n to_o god_n sacred_a truth_n have_v in_o st._n luke_n gospel_n 22._o 19_o 20_o utter_o cut_v you_o off_o even_o from_o that_o very_a gloss_n and_o interpretation_n the_o word_n of_o the_o evangelist_n be_v these_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d this_o be_v the_o cup_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n in_o my_o blood_n which_o cup_n be_v shed_v for_o you_o these_o be_v the_o word_n in_o the_o original_a language_n of_o st._n luke_n gospel_n and_o though_o both_o in_o the_o latin_a and_o english_a translation_n the_o relative_n which_v may_v seem_v to_o refer_v to_o blood_n as_o well_o as_o to_o cup_n yet_o in_o the_o greek_a it_o be_v very_o plain_a that_o it_o must_v refer_v to_o cup._n if_o then_o that_o which_o be_v câ—â—â—ained_v in_o the_o cup_n be_v that_o which_o be_v shâ—d_v for_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n how_o can_v it_o be_v wine_n oâ—_n a_o sign_n or_o figure_n â—â—ly_o of_o christ_n blood_n or_o any_o thing_n else_o but_o the_o true_a and_o real_a blood_n of_o christ_n for_o no_o sign_n oâ—_n sigure_n of_o blood_n but_o christ_n true_a and_o real_a precious_a blood_n be_v shed_v for_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n i_o will_v endeavour_v to_o make_v this_o doctrine_n appear_v more_o plain_a by_o this_o syllogism_n that_o which_o be_v shed_v for_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n be_v the_o true_a and_o real_a precious_a blood_n of_o christ_n but_o that_o which_o be_v in_o the_o cup_n be_v that_o which_o be_v shed_v for_o the_o fin_n of_o the_o world_n ergo._n that_o which_o be_v in_o the_o cup_n be_v the_o true_a and_o real_a precious_a blood_n of_o christ_n the_o major_a proposition_n can_v be_v deny_v without_o blasphemy_n the_o minor_a be_v most_o plain_a by_o the_o word_n of_o the_o text_n and_o therefore_o the_o conclusion_n must_v necessary_o follow_v here_o be_v no_o fallacy_n doctor_n in_o this_o syllogism_n no_o more_o term_n than_o ought_v to_o be_v in_o a_o syllogism_n but_o to_o utter_o debar_v you_o of_o your_o sign_n or_o figure_n i_o argue_v thus_o that_o which_o be_v shed_v for_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n be_v not_o a_o sign_n or_o figure_n only_o of_o christ_n blood_n but_o that_o which_o be_v in_o the_o cup_n be_v shed_v for_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n ergo._n that_o which_o be_v in_o the_o cup_n be_v not_o a_o sign_n or_o figure_n only_o of_o christ_n blood_n those_o word_n then_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d this_o be_v the_o cup_n the_o new_a testament_n in_o my_o blood_n can_v admit_v of_o this_o interpretation_n this_o cup_n be_v a_o sign_n of_o my_o blood_n unless_o you_o will_v grant_v that_o a_o bare_a sign_n of_o christ_n blood_n be_v shed_v for_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n which_o be_v high_a blasphemy_n for_o it_o be_v very_o plain_a by_o the_o express_a word_n of_o the_o text_n that_o the_o very_a cup_n which_o be_v the_o new_a testament_n in_o christ_n blood_n be_v shed_v for_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o world_n wherefore_o that_o cup_n can_v not_o be_v a_o sign_n only_o but_o the_o true_a precious_a blood_n of_o our_o saviour_n whâ—t_v say_v you_o doctor_n who_o now_o
answer_v sect._n 28._o yet_o i_o have_v think_v fit_a to_o make_v this_o further_a examination_n of_o it_o to_o the_o question_n then_o where_o be_v your_o church_n before_o luther_n d._n lawd_n answer_v where_o we_o be_v now_o answ_n if_o by_o we_o he_o mean_v the_o particular_a church_n of_o rome_n i_o must_v confess_v his_o answer_n to_o be_v true_a for_o the_o particular_a church_n of_o rome_n be_v a_o part_n or_o member_n of_o the_o roman_a catholic_a church_n and_o so_o be_v you_o before_o luther_n but_o with_o he_o you_o have_v apostatise_v and_o be_v fall_v into_o schism_n and_o he_o resie_n and_o instead_o of_o a_o church_n you_o be_v become_v a_o heretical_a and_o schismatical_a congregation_n luther_n forsake_v the_o whole_a church_n and_o those_o that_o soon_o after_o his_o apostasy_n adhere_v to_o his_o heresy_n follow_v he_o also_o in_o his_o apostasy_n they_o have_v be_v all_o member_n of_o that_o church_n which_o luther_n have_v forsake_v but_o this_o you_o will_v say_v be_v no_o separation_n but_o a_o reformation_n for_o that_o d._n lawd_n drive_v at_o one_o and_o the_o same_o church_n still_o say_v he_o one_o in_o substance_n but_o not_o one_o in_o condition_n of_o state_n and_o purity_n your_o part_n of_o the_o same_o church_n by_o your_o part_n he_o mean_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n remain_v in_o corruption_n and_o our_o part_n of_o the_o same_o church_n under_o reformation_n good_a god_n how_o can_v any_o society_n of_o man_n profess_v themselves_o christian_n be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o church_n and_o that_o in_o substante_fw-la with_o that_o from_o which_o they_o separate_v both_o in_o faith_n and_o communion_n or_o what_o can_v be_v a_o separation_n if_o this_o be_v not_o if_o you_o have_v not_o separate_v yourselves_o from_o the_o catholic_a church_n than_o be_v the_o arrian_n nestorian_n macedontans_n pelagian_o etc._n etc._n no_o heretic_n neither_o be_v they_o separate_v from_o the_o catholic_a church_n but_o be_v only_o under_o reformation_n do_v not_o you_o oppose_v and_o deny_v doctrine_n of_o faith_n as_o ancient_o and_o as_o universal_o receive_v by_o the_o church_n as_o those_o that_o the_o arrian_n nestorian_n macedonian_n pelagian_o etc._n etc._n oppose_v and_o deny_v what_o difference_n can_v you_o make_v between_o arrius_n and_o luther_n in_o respect_n of_o their_o apostasy_n do_v not_o luther_n set_v himself_o against_o the_o whole_a world_n as_o well_o as_o arrius_n do_v not_o the_o whole_a christian_a world_n beside_o yourselves_o upon_o your_o first_o reformation_n as_o you_o call_v it_o detest_v your_o new_a doctrine_n and_o abhor_v your_o communion_n do_v not_o the_o pretend_a greek_a church_n itself_o into_o who_o communion_n you_o be_v petitioner_n to_o be_v admit_v condemn_v your_o new_a doctrine_n as_o heretical_a and_o refuse_v to_o receive_v you_o into_o their_o communion_n read_v the_o book_n entitle_v censura_fw-la orientalis_n ecclesiae_fw-la and_o you_o shall_v there_o find_v the_o greek_a church_n maintain_v and_o that_o against_o the_o protestant_n the_o doctrine_n of_o seven_o sacrament_n cap._n 7._o of_o transubstantiation_n and_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o bless_a sacrarmenâ—_n c._n 10._o of_o auricular_a confession_n c._n 11._o of_o the_o unbloudy_a propitiatory_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n c._n 13._o of_o free_a will_n c._n 18._o of_o tradition_n c._n 20._o of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o veneration_n of_o image_n c._n 21._o be_v there_o any_o one_o man_n in_o the_o whole_a world_n that_o profess_v your_o foctrine_n before_o luther_n and_o yet_o forsooth_o you_o be_v no_o separation_n from_o the_o catholic_a church_n but_o a_o reformation_n a_o bless_a reformation_n that_o must_v necessary_o justify_v all_o former_a heresy_n that_o ever_o be_v condemn_v and_o all_o heretic_n and_o schismatic_n that_o ever_o separate_v themselves_o from_o god_n church_n to_o say_v no_o more_o where_o be_v your_o succession_n of_o bishop_n and_o pastor_n which_o be_v essential_a to_o god_n church_n if_o the_o consecration_n of_o your_o pretend_a bishop_n be_v never_o valid_a then_o must_v also_o the_o ordination_n of_o your_o pretend_a priest_n be_v invalid_a and_o it_o never_o yet_o can_v nor_o ever_o can_v appear_v that_o you_o have_v either_o bishop_n consecrate_v or_o priest_n ordain_v either_o lawful_o or_o valid_o since_o queen_n marye'_v day_n but_o i_o be_o sure_a there_o be_v most_o strong_a and_o pregnant_a argument_n for_o the_o contrary_n i_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o perchance_o there_o may_v be_v some_o priest_n ordain_v valid_o though_o sacrilegious_o by_o that_o apostate_n bishop_n of_o spalleto_n in_o the_o time_n of_o his_o stay_n in_o england_n but_o what_o be_v that_o to_o a_o succession_n of_o priest_n and_o bishop_n i_o have_v now_o do_v with_o the_o first_o answer_n and_o pass_v to_o the_o second_o which_o because_o i_o find_v to_o consist_v principal_o of_o scurrilitye_n personal_a and_o malicious_a invective_n and_o repetition_n of_o former_a fallacy_n my_o reply_n will_v be_v the_o short_a since_o i_o shall_v in_o many_o thing_n refer_v the_o reader_n to_o my_o former_a answer_n and_o take_v notice_n here_o only_o of_o that_o which_o i_o shall_v find_v to_o be_v new_a matter_n 50._o and_o here_o at_o the_o very_a first_o entrance_n i_o meet_v with_o a_o old_a fallacy_n a_o ridiculous_a argument_n already_o answer_v sect._n 5._o to_o which_o i_o must_v refer_v the_o reader_n i_o will_v here_o add_v this_o only_a that_o before_o s._n peter_n translate_v his_o chair_n from_o antioch_n to_o rome_n the_o catholic_a church_n may_v be_v proper_o call_v the_o church_n of_o antioch_n which_o ever_o since_o have_v be_v call_v the_o roman_a church_n and_o ever_o will_v be_v until_o s._n peter_n successor_n shall_v translate_v his_o chair_n to_o some_o other_o place_n 51._o after_o this_o follow_v a_o most_o notorious_a falsehood_n viz._n that_o in_o the_o time_n of_o s._n hilary_n of_o poicteurs_n there_o be_v at_o rome_n no_o church_n no_o communion_n of_o saint_n she_o and_o those_o in_o communion_n with_o she_o be_v heretical_a and_o comply_v with_o arrius_n this_o be_v most_o apparent_o false_a by_o the_o record_n of_o all_o history_n for_o at_o that_o time_n the_o western_a church_n be_v nothing_o so_o much_o infect_v with_o arrianism_n as_o the_o eastern_a beside_o s._n hilary_n in_o that_o place_n by_o you_o cite_v sect._n â—3_n have_v not_o so_o much_o as_o name_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o therefore_o have_v not_o in_o particular_a exclude_v it_o from_o the_o catholic_a church_n but_o from_o those_o word_n of_o the_o father_n caeteris_fw-la extra_fw-la gallias_n you_o will_v prove_v that_o all_o the_o world_n beside_o france_n be_v out_o of_o the_o catholic_a church_n for_o say_v you_o there_o be_v then_o no_o communion_n with_o rome_n unless_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o rome_n be_v in_o france_n sect._n 23._o but_o pray_v tell_v i_o 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