93._o 238._o 488._o 493._o 493._o tom_n 3._o fol._n 555_o tom_n 5._o fol._n 290._o tom_n 6._o fol._n 79._o and_o other_o where_o often_o second_o it_o arise_v that_o true_a protestancie_n be_v call_v lutheran_n doctrine_n the_o lutheran_n cause_n the_o lutheran_n religion_n lutheran_n protestant_n term_v themselves_o lutheran_n the_o lutheran_n business_n and_o lutheranisme_n of_o luther_n himself_o tom_n 2._o fol._n 37._o and_o 497._o of_o frederick_n the_o electour_n tom_fw-mi 1_o lutheri_fw-la fol._n 237._o of_o his_o counsellor_n tom_n 2._o fol._n 116._o of_o the_o divine_v of_o mansfeld_n in_o schusselburg_n tom_n 8._o pag._n 270._o of_o schusselburg_n himself_o epist_n dedicat_fw-la tom_fw-mi 4._o of_o melancthon_n tom_n 2._o lutheri_fw-la fol._n 193._o 197._o of_o kemmice_n epist_n dedicat_fw-la lib._n de_fw-fr duabus_fw-la naturis_fw-la of_o hutter_n in_o analysi_fw-la confess_v august_n pag._n 595._o of_o brunsfelse_a respon_n ad_fw-la spongiam_fw-la erasmi_n or_o lobeenâ—us_o in_o epist_n dedicat_fw-la disput_fw-la oâ—_n george_n fabritius_n l_o b._n 1_n &_o 8._o orig._n saxon._n and_o of_o other_o lutheran_n and_o in_o like_a manner_n of_o sacramenttary_n also_o as_o of_o bucer_n in_o matth._n 26._o &_o lib._n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la animorum_fw-la pag._n 261._o of_o hospin_n prefat_n part_n 2_o histor_n of_o scultere_fw-la con._n saecular_a of_o d._n morton_n 1._o part_n apol._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 45._o and_o other_o three_o thereof_o proceed_v that_o the_o true_a and_o proper_a protestant_n be_v call_v lutheran_n both_o of_o themselves_o and_o of_o other_o for_o thus_o speak_v luther_n in_o psalm_n 118._o tom_n 7._o fol._n 551_o i_o grant_v myself_o to_o be_v a_o lutheran_n and_o in_o like_a manner_n speak_v he_o ibidem_fw-la fol._n 79._o 242._o 233._o 361._o &_o 400._o and_o tom_n 2._o fol._n 473._o and_o in_o hospin_n part_n 2._o fol._n 134._o so_o also_o speak_v melancthon_n in_o dominicam_fw-la 8._o trinit_fw-la tom_fw-mi 1._o and_o in_o hospin_n lib._n cit_fw-la fol._n 72._o and_o brentius_n also_o ibid._n fol._n 107._o so_o speak_v the_o confession_n of_o saxony_n in_o the_o preface_n and_o the_o saxon_a minister_n in_o the_o conference_n of_o aldburg_n pag._n 60._o vrban_n regius_n in_o judicio_fw-la de_fw-la conuentu_fw-la norimberg_n pag._n 9_o amsdorse_v in_o bucer_n in_o scriptis_fw-la anglicis_fw-la p._n 635._o matheus_n index_n in_o edicto_fw-la aeterni_fw-la dei_fw-la james_n andrew_n in_fw-la colloq_fw-la montisbel_n pag._n 179._o yea_o graver_n in_o the_o preface_n of_o his_o caluinisticall_a absurdity_n dedicate_v his_o book_n unto_o the_o proper_a lutheran_n and_o pag._n 61._o affirm_v that_o their_o man_n be_v call_v lutheran_n that_o they_o may_v be_v distinguish_v from_o papist_n and_o caluinist_n scusselburg_n tom_n 17._o catal._n pag._n 866._o say_v the_o divines_n of_o our_o part_n call_v themselves_o and_o the_o defender_n of_o their_o opinion_n lutheran_n which_o also_o affirm_v reineccius_n tom_n 1._o armat_fw-la cap._n ult._n hutten_n in_o expostulat_fw-la cum_fw-la erasm_n say_v i_o acknowledge_v the_o name_n of_o lutheran_n and_o hailbruner_n we_o be_v not_o ashamed_a of_o the_o name_n and_o andrew_n schafman_n in_o prodromo_fw-la bring_v many_o reason_n to_o prove_v that_o they_o do_v well_o in_o call_v themselves_o lutheran_n and_o those_o of_o berga_n as_o hospin_n report_v in_o concord_n discord_n c._n 20._o say_v that_o all_o the_o sincere_a doctor_n of_o the_o church_n call_v themselves_o lutheran_n of_o luther_n the_o same_o also_o testify_v the_o sacramentary_n for_o those_o of_o new_a stade_fw-la against_o the_o book_n of_o concord_n cap_n 6._o pag._n 213._o say_v they_o account_v none_o a_o sincere_a disciple_n of_o christ_n unless_o he_o will_v be_v call_v as_o well_o a_o lutheran_n as_o a_o christian_a the_o author_n of_o the_o orthodox_n consent_v in_o prefat_n apologet._n they_o take_v to_o themselves_o faction_n name_n upon_o a_o preposterous_a and_o too_o great_a eastern_a of_o their_o master_n parcus_n in_o cap_n 2._o galat._n sect_n 24_o they_o do_v not_o only_o call_v themselves_o lutheran_n of_o luther_n but_o also_o will_v be_v so_o call_v of_o all_o beza_n in_o conspicil_n pag._n 8_o you_o all_o will_v be_v name_v and_o call_v lutheran_n and_o pag._n 56_o not_o content_a with_o the_o name_n of_o christian_n they_o call_v themselves_o lutheran_n and_o rejoice_v to_o be_v so_o call_v danaeus_n apol._n cont_n jac._n andrâ—ae_n say_v that_o he_o glori_v in_o luther_n as_o in_o another_o christ_n of_o who_o every_o where_n be_v thunder_v &_o call_v himself_o a_o lutheran_n a_o lutheran_n etc._n etc._n and_o resp_n ad_fw-la selnecer_n he_o say_v that_o selnecer_n free_o confess_v that_o the_o ducth_z church_n term_v themselves_o lutheran_n vrsin_n in_o catechism_n pag_n 494._o say_v this_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o they_o who_o call_v themselves_o lutheran_n zauchius_n epist_n dedicat_fw-la miscellan_n many_o be_v not_o ashamed_a even_o in_o print_a book_n to_o all_o themselves_o lutheran_n and_o jezler_n de_fw-fr bello_fw-la euchar._n fol._n 115_o some_o have_v no_o shame_n even_o in_o pulpit_n to_o say_v we_o will_v be_v lutheran_n constant_o and_o at_o some_o time_n even_o the_o sacramentary_n seem_v to_o be_v desirous_a of_o the_o surname_n of_o lutheran_n for_o those_o of_o newstade_n in_o admonit_n de_fw-fr lib_n concordiae_fw-la pag._n 106._o compliane_n that_o some_o will_v seem_v to_o be_v the_o only_a disciple_n of_o luther_n musculus_fw-la in_o locis_fw-la tit_n de_fw-fr haeresi_fw-la pag_n 604._o say_v no_o man_n condemn_v true_a lutheran_n unless_o he_o be_v ignorant_a of_o the_o truth_n or_o very_o naughty_a and_o the_o protestant_a prince_n of_o germany_n in_o thuan._n lib._n 79._o histor_n pag._n 595._o relate_v that_o the_o king_n of_o navarre_n write_v to_o they_o that_o if_o the_o french_a protestant_n be_v to_o be_v term_v of_o any_o man_n they_o ouâ—ht_v most_o of_o all_o to_o be_v call_v lutheran_n because_o when_o this_o name_n be_v odious_a in_o france_n for_o almost_o therscore_a year_n many_o by_o fire_n by_o rack_n be_v death_n seal_v with_o their_o blood_n the_o testimony_n of_o that_o doctrine_n which_o they_o receive_v first_o of_o luther_n scultete_n also_o in_o concionâ—_n saeculari_fw-la compare_v luther_n with_o the_o apostolical_a man_n beside_o the_o sacramentary_n call_v luther_n true_a follwer_n lutheran_n as_o zuinglius_fw-la tom_n 1._o fol._n 420._o 436._o 470._o oecolampadius_n ibidem_fw-la fol._n 479._o and_o in_o hospin_n part_n 2._o fol._n 84._o 112._o 126._o tigurini_fw-la ibidem_fw-la fol_z 88_o bucer_n in_o cap_n rom._n &_o in_o scriptis_fw-la angl._n pag._n 669._o martyr_n tom_n 2._o loc_fw-la epist_n ad_fw-la caluin_n hospin_n lib._n cit_fw-la fol._n 91._o caluin_n in_o zancius_n lib._n 2._o epist_n pag._n 78._o daneus_fw-la ibidem_fw-la pag._n 401._o zanchius_n himself_o pag._n 394._o pareus_n lib._n 5._o the_o amiss_o great_a cap._n 1._o &_o 2._o lib_n 4._o cap._n 17_o lib._n 6_o cap._n 1._o vorstius_n in_o antibellarm_n pag._n 561._o d._n whitaker_n count_v 1._o quest_n 2._o cap._n 3._o and_o quest_n 5._o c._n 8._o and_o quest_n 6._o cap._n 9_o cont_n 4._o quest_n 5._o cap._n 3._o &_o lib._n 3._o de_fw-la concupisc_fw-la cap._n 9_o &_o lib._n 3._o de_fw-fr scrip._n cap._n 2_o sect_n 3._o d._n fulke_o de_fw-fr success_n pag._n 321._o m._n perkins_n in_o explicat_fw-la symboly_n col_fw-fr 781._o &_o 790._o yea_o jezler_n loc_fw-la cit_fw-la fol._n 39_o &_o vorstius_n in_o collatine_n cum_fw-la piscatore_fw-la write_v that_o proper_o and_o vulgar_o they_o be_v call_v lutheran_n whereupon_o d._n humphrey_n ad_fw-la rat._n 2._o campian_n pag._n 128._o say_v lutheran_n vulgar_o call_v 7._o hereby_o we_o see_v first_o that_o the_o lutheran_n glory_n of_o the_o name_n of_o luther_n as_o the_o donatist_n which_o s._n augustin_n report_v do_v of_o the_o name_n of_o donatus_n second_o that_o they_o glory_n of_o a_o schismatical_a name_n for_o such_o be_v the_o name_n of_o lutheran_n as_o luther_n himself_o confess_v in_o d._n morton_n part_n 1._o apol._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 8._o and_o hospin_n praefat._n part_n 2._o histor_n vorstius_n in_o antibellarm_n pag._n 149_o yea_o d._n whitaker_n count_v 2._o quest_n 5._o cap._n 2._o say_v that_o to_o take_v the_o name_n of_o any_o man_n at_o all_o be_v heretical_a and_o schismatical_a and_o that_o heretic_n carry_v the_o name_n of_o their_o master_n and_o willing_o acknowledge_v such_o name_n three_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o english_a apology_n untrue_o say_v that_o luther_n disciple_n be_v call_v lutheran_n in_o disgtace_n or_o derision_n for_o graver_n lib._n cit_fw-la say_v they_o be_v term_v so_o for_o distinction_n sake_n lavatherus_n and_o hospin_n praefat._n histor_n say_v they_o call_v they_o so_o for_o doctrine_n sake_n that_o it_o may_v be_v know_v who_o they_o mean_v and_o scul_n eye_n so_o term_v they_o for_o honour_n sake_n and_o sure_o since_o both_o sacramentary_n the_o common_a people_n and_o themselves_o also_o term_v they_o lutheran_n and_o glory_n
1_o we_o say_v that_o the_o church_n can_v err_v in_o thing_n simple_o necessary_a which_o he_o often_o repeat_v in_o the_o 2._o cap._n and_o quest_n 5._o cap._n 17_o if_o any_o fundamental_a doctrine_n be_v take_v away_o the_o church_n straight_o way_n fall_v and_o cap._n 18_o the_o fundamental_a article_n be_v those_o on_o which_o our_o faith_n rely_v as_o the_o house_n upon_o the_o foundation_n again_o if_o any_o fundamental_a and_o essential_a principle_n of_o faith_n be_v overturn_v or_o shake_v it_o can_v be_v true_o call_v a_o church_n and_o quest_n 6._o cap._n 3_o that_o be_v no_o true_a church_n which_o take_v away_o one_o only_a foundation_n the_o same_o he_o teach_v in_o his_o 1._o book_n of_o the_o scripture_n cap._n 7._o sect_n 8._o and_o cap._n 12._o sect_n 3._o m._n perkins_n in_o his_o explication_n of_o the_o creed_n if_o any_o man_n or_o church_n retain_v or_o defend_v obstinate_o or_o of_o wilful_a ignorance_n a_o fundamental_a error_n we_o must_v not_o account_v they_o anymore_o christian_n or_o church_n d._n sutlive_v in_o his_o first_o book_n of_o the_o church_n cap._n 1_o those_o blemish_n take_v away_o the_o name_n of_o the_o true_a church_n which_o be_v against_o the_o ground_n of_o faith_n d._n field_n in_o his_o 2._o book_n of_o the_o church_n cap._n 3_o purity_n free_a from_o fundamental_a and_o essential_a error_n be_v necessary_o require_v in_o the_o church_n d._n morton_n in_o the_o 1._o part_n oâ—_n his_o apology_n book_n 2._o cap_n 38_o purity_n of_o doctrine_n in_o fundamental_a principle_n of_o faith_n be_v require_v to_o the_o be_v and_o constitution_n of_o the_o church_n and_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o protestant_n apology_n l._n 4._o c._n 3._o sect._n 5_o the_o denial_n of_o fundamental_a doctrine_n do_v exclude_v man_n from_o salvation_n and_o disannul_v the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o gainsayer_n d._n white_a in_o his_o way_n to_o the_o church_n pag._n 110_o we_o do_v not_o think_v every_o company_n to_o be_v the_o true_a church_n that_o hold_v only_o some_o point_n of_o the_o true_a faith_n but_o it_o be_v requisite_a that_o the_o foundation_n be_v hold_v and_o in_o his_o defence_n of_o the_o way_n cap._n 17_o a_o fundamental_a point_n be_v that_o which_o belong_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o faith_n and_o be_v so_o necessary_a that_o there_o can_v be_v no_o salvation_n without_o the_o knowledge_n and_o explicit_a faith_n thereof_o and_o sure_o they_o all_o and_o at_o all_o time_n aught_o to_o affirm_v this_o see_v they_o deliver_v truth_n of_o doctrine_n as_o a_o essential_a mark_n of_o the_o church_n which_o they_o must_v needs_o understand_v and_o so_o vorstius_n in_o his_o anti-bellarmin_a pag._n 148._o express_v it_o of_o true_a doctrine_n in_o fundamental_a point_n and_o this_o their_o doctrine_n touch_v this_o matter_n i_o earnest_o commend_v to_o the_o memory_n of_o the_o reader_n because_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o find_v out_o what_o a_o protestant_n be_v and_o also_o be_v one_o of_o the_o ground_n whereby_o it_o may_v appear_v that_o there_o be_v no_o protestant_n church_n before_o luther_n because_o before_o he_o there_o be_v no_o company_n which_o hold_v all_o the_o same_o fundamental_a point_n of_o doctrine_n which_o protestant_n do_v hold_v 6._o final_o faith_n they_o exclude_v all_o that_o deny_v any_o article_n of_o faith_n they_o sometym_v shut_v out_o of_o their_o church_n all_o those_o who_o deny_v any_o one_o point_n of_o faith_n be_v it_o fundamental_a or_o other_o for_o thus_o write_v the_o apology_n of_o the_o confession_n of_o auspurge_n the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o among_o they_o who_o defend_v naughty_a opinion_n contrary_a to_o the_o gospel_n and_o luther_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o count_n albert_n it_o be_v not_o enough_o if_o in_o other_o thing_n he_o confess_v christ_n and_o his_o gospel_n for_o who_o deni_v christ_n in_o one_o article_n or_o word_n deni_v he_o who_o be_v deny_v in_o all_o because_o there_o be_v but_o 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either_o addition_n or_o detraction_n and_o when_o zuinglius_fw-la and_o his_o follower_n desire_v of_o the_o lutheran_n to_o be_v esteem_v as_o their_o brethren_n melancthon_n as_o hospinian_n report_v in_o his_o sacramentarian_a history_n fol._n 81._o rough_o say_v unto_o they_o we_o marvel_v with_o what_o conscience_n they_o can_v account_v we_o for_o brethren_n who_o they_o judge_v to_o err_v in_o doctrine_n and_o again_o fol._n 82._o luther_n grave_o speak_v unto_o they_o say_v he_o great_o merueil_v how_o they_o can_v hold_v he_o for_o a_o brother_n if_o they_o think_v his_o doctrine_n to_o be_v untrue_a and_o the_o same_o melancthon_n together_o with_o brentius_n write_v thus_o to_o the_o landgrave_n perhaps_o christian_n who_o be_v entangle_v in_o some_o error_n which_o they_o do_v not_o obstinate_o defend_v may_v be_v tolerate_v as_o brethren_n but_o they_o which_v not_o only_o bring_v false_a doctrine_n into_o the_o church_n but_o also_o maintain_v it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v acknowledge_v for_o brethren_n and_o again_o melancthon_n in_o his_o examen_fw-la of_o those_o who_o be_v to_o take_v order_n tom_n 3._o there_o be_v in_o that_o company_n of_o the_o church_n many_o who_o be_v not_o saint_n but_o yet_o agree_v in_o doctrine_n the_o divines_n of_o wittenberg_n in_o their_o refutation_n of_o the_o orthodoxal_a consent_n pag._n 73_o like_a as_o he_o who_o keep_v the_o whole_a law_n and_o offend_v in_o one_o as_o james_n the_o apostle_n witness_v be_v guilty_a of_o all_o so_o who_o believe_v not_o one_o word_n of_o christ_n albeit_o he_o seem_v to_o believe_v the_o other_o article_n of_o the_o creed_n yet_o believe_v nothing_o and_o be_v to_o be_v damn_v as_o incredulous_a for_o every_o heretic_n do_v not_o impugn_v every_o article_n of_o faith_n but_o common_o each_o of_o they_o of_o purpose_n impugn_a some_o one_o or_o other_o who_o nevertheless_o the_o church_n just_o condemn_v as_o heretic_n if_o they_o pertinacious_o stand_v in_o their_o error_n 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of_o god_n remain_v this_o day_n in_o the_o latin_a church_n boysseul_n in_o his_o confutation_n of_o spondé_n pag._n 6_o i_o exclude_v not_o the_o roman_a church_n out_o of_o the_o universal_a church_n i_o acknowledge_v she_o to_o be_v yet_o in_o the_o covenant_n of_o god_n which_o he_o repeat_v oftentimes_o and_o pag._n 12_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v the_o church_n of_o god_n pag._n 19_o it_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n p._n 283_o it_o be_v yet_o the_o church_n spouse_n and_o temple_n of_o god_n god_n yet_o the_o church_n spouse_n &_o temple_n of_o god_n and_o pag._n 822_o we_o deny_v not_o that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v the_o church_n of_o jesus_n christ_n redeem_v by_o he_o vorstius_n in_o his_o anti-bellarmin_a p._n 188_o the_o vulgar_a roman_a church_n have_v not_o yet_o lose_v all_o spiritual_a life_n be_v not_o yet_o open_o divorce_v from_o christ_n and_o peter_n martyr_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o bullinger_n write_v alive_a yet_o alive_a that_o he_o 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c._n 37._o pag._n 355_o i_o never_o deny_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n of_o god_n wherein_o our_o ancestor_n profess_v the_o truth_n and_o be_v save_v and_o cap._n 41._o pag._n 408_o profess_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n itself_o in_o all_o age_n to_o have_v be_v the_o visible_a church_n of_o god_n last_o d._n hall_n in_o his_o rome_n irreconciliable_a sect_n 1._o say_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v a_o true_a visible_a church_n but_o not_o sound_v and_o that_o it_o differ_v from_o the_o protestant_a church_n at_o the_o sick_a from_o the_o whole_a hereto_o i_o add_v that_o oftentimes_o they_o call_v the_o roman_a church_n their_o mother_n which_o have_v bear_v they_o to_o christ_n as_o we_o shall_v rehearse_v hereafter_o
man_n sonis_fw-la respon_n ad_fw-la spondeum_fw-la c._n 10._o pag._n 365._o heretic_n be_v within_o the_o church_n lubbert_n lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 3_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o heretic_n be_v some_o as_o yet_o in_o the_o visible_a church_n some_o also_o in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o elect_a junius_n lib._n 3._o de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 4_o heretic_n absolute_o be_v of_o the_o church_n unless_o they_o be_v such_o as_o overthrow_v fundamental_a article_n of_o religion_n â—â—_o cap._n 3_o n._n â—â—_o bullinger_n teach_v the_o same_o decad._n 2._o serm_n 8._o and_o it_o be_v the_o common_a doctrine_n of_o the_o protestant_n who_o as_o be_v before_o prove_v exclude_v none_o from_o be_v member_n of_o their_o church_n that_o deny_v only_o such_o article_n as_o be_v not_o fundamental_a howbeit_o some_o of_o they_o upon_o heretical_a privilege_n as_o tertullian_n speak_v will_v not_o have_v such_o call_v heretic_n â—5_n lib._n de_fw-fr carne_fw-la coâ—isti_fw-la cap._n â—5_n 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profession_n such_o be_v heretic_n schismatic_o etc._n etc._n touch_v their_o acceptation_n of_o schismatik_n beside_o what_o have_v be_v already_o allege_v d._n feild_n in_o his_o first_o book_n of_o the_o church_n cap._n 13._o write_v thus_o schismatik_n they_o challenge_v schismatik_n the_o departure_n of_o schismatic_o be_v not_o such_o but_o that_o notwithstanding_o their_o schism_n they_o be_v and_o remain_v part_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n junius_n in_o the_o place_n before_o quote_v lay_v claim_n to_o those_o schismatic_n who_o say_v he_o sever_v not_o themselves_o from_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o only_o from_o a_o part_n thereof_o but_o d._n mortoâ—_n in_o the_o 1._o part_n of_o his_o apology_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 2._o say_v absolute_o without_o any_o acception_n or_o restraint_n at_o all_o schismatik_n be_v of_o the_o church_n and_o lib._n 2._o cap._n 10._o pag._n 288_o variance_n say_v he_o and_o schism_n do_v not_o betoken_v the_o false_a church_n and_o d._n willet_n in_o his_o synopsis_n cont_n 2._o quest_n 3._o pag._n 104_o we_o say_v that_o schismatik_n though_o they_o hold_v some_o false_a point_n of_o doctrine_n yet_o if_o their_o error_n be_v not_o fundamental_a and_o if_o they_o retain_v the_o purity_n of_o doctrine_n in_o all_o point_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n may_v make_v a_o particular_a church_n by_o themselves_o these_o be_v their_o acknowledgement_n touch_v heretic_n and_o schismatic_n in_o general_n grecian_n they_o acknowledge_v the_o grecian_n let_v we_o now_o descend_v to_o particularity_n and_o see_v the_o courteous_a admission_n they_o give_v to_o some_o of_o they_o by_o name_n 8._o the_o grecian_n and_o other_o eastern_a schismatik_n yea_o heretic_n to_o for_o the_o most_o part_n find_v that_o favour_n at_o their_o hand_n as_o they_o vouchsafe_v to_o account_v they_o member_n of_o their_o church_n his_o majesty_n epist_n ad_fw-la card._n peron_n pa._n 13_o have_v thus_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n greece_n antioch_n egypt_n aethiopia_n muscovy_n and_o other_o more_o be_v member_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n d._n whiâ—e_v in_o defence_n of_o his_o way_n c._n 37._o pag._n 355_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o greece_n aethiope_n armenia_n and_o rome_n with_o the_o nation_n contain_v therein_o have_v in_o they_o the_o true_a church_n of_o god_n wherein_o man_n may_v be_v save_v d._n morton_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o protestant_n apology_n lib._n 4._o cap._n 2._o sect_n 7._o say_v that_o the_o assyrian_a church_n keep_v the_o true_a foundation_n of_o christian_a faith_n the_o same_o especial_o of_o the_o grecian_n teach_v luther_n tom_n 2._o lib._n de_fw-fr captiu_fw-la babylon_n fol._n 65._o &_o in_o assert_v art_n 37._o fol._n 114._o innius_n cont_n 4_o lib._n 4._o cap._n 6._o sedeel_n respon_n ad_fw-la thes_n posnan_n cap._n 12._o d._n whitaker_n lâ—b_n 7._o cont_n duraeum_n sect_n 3._o bucanus_n loco_fw-la 41._o quest_n 5_o d._n feild_n lib._n 3._o de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 5._o &_o 28._o d._n fulke_o de_fw-fr success_n pag._n 120._o burhill_n pro_fw-la tortura_fw-la torti_n c._n 15._o and_o other_o 9_o and_o sometime_o they_o be_v not_o less_o freeharted_n towards_o western_a heretic_n melancthon_n in_o locis_fw-la à _fw-it maulio_fw-it editiâ—tit_fw-la de_fw-fr eccles_n pag._n 491._o write_v that_o two_o girl_n who_o be_v burn_v as_o he_o say_v for_o anabaptisme_n anabaptist_n they_o challenge_v the_o anabaptist_n hold_v the_o foundation_n of_o say_v and_o die_v in_o a_o good_a confession_n and_o zuinglius_fw-la tom_n 2._o lib._n the_o author_n sedit_fw-la fol._n 134._o &_o seq_fw-la exhort_v his_o fellower_n not_o to_o revolt_v from_o his_o doctrine_n for_o the_o debate_n and_o quarrel_n between_o the_o protestant_n and_o the_o anabaptist_n call_v both_o part_n most_o learned_a and_o son_n of_o the_o same_o father_n neither_o must_v thou_o say_v he_o give_v any_o man_n way_n to_o shake_v and_o weakeâ—_n thy_o say_v although_o thou_o see_v that_o man_n of_o the_o great_a learning_n move_v dispute_n and_o fall_v by_o the_o care_n with_o much_o eagerness_n of_o contention_n touch_v external_a matter_n he_o mean_v baptism_n but_o let_v this_o be_v rather_o thy_o steadfast_a persuasion_n that_o by_o the_o son_n of_o god_n we_o be_v all_o make_v son_n of_o the_o same_o father_n again_o neither_o be_o i_o wont_a to_o speak_v these_o thing_n for_o that_o i_o be_o so_o great_o move_v with_o the_o baptism_n of_o child_n and_o ibidem_fw-la lib._n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la fol._n 96._o he_o say_v that_o baptism_n be_v a_o matter_n of_o ceremony_n which_o the_o church_n may_v omit_v or_o take_v quite_o away_o oecolampadius_n in_o his_o 2._o book_n of_o epistle_n p._n 363._o say_v baptism_n be_v a_o external_a thing_n which_o by_o the_o law_n of_o charity_n may_v be_v dispense_v withal_o and_o musculus_fw-la in_o locis_fw-la do_fw-mi de_fw-fr haeresi_fw-la pag._n 605._o reckon_v the_o anabaptist_n among_o those_o who_o
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his_o denial_n and_o vorstins_n in_o his_o antibellarm_n pag._n 464_o it_o be_v enough_o for_o the_o denier_n probable_o to_o deny_v wherefore_o in_o these_o kind_n of_o question_n protestant_n ought_v to_o be_v urge_v to_o perform_v their_o part_n that_o be_v to_o prove_v what_o they_o affirm_v to_o wit_n that_o before_o luther_n time_n their_o church_n be_v have_v pastor_n and_o the_o like_a which_o if_o they_o can_v do_v they_o must_v needs_o confess_v that_o in_o this_o debate_n they_o have_v lose_v their_o cause_n and_o they_o ought_v not_o to_o press_v we_o to_o prove_v that_o before_o luther_n their_o church_n be_v not_o have_v not_o pastor_n etc._n etc._n because_o as_o i_o say_v herein_o we_o be_v only_o the_o defender_n and_o denier_n 473._o tom._n 1._o foe_n 389._o 473._o and_o therefore_o it_o suffice_v for_o we_o to_o show_v that_o no_o reason_n which_o the_o protestant_n allege_v convince_v a_o reasonable_a man_n to_o believe_v that_o there_o be_v any_o such_o church_n 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protestant_n which_o appear_v to_o all_o and_o quest_n 6._o cap._n 2._o pag_n 359_o we_o care_v not_o for_o their_o object_v solitude_n unto_o us._n for_o we_o be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o have_v recall_v our_o church_n out_o of_o this_o kind_n of_o solitude_n d._n fulke_o to_o the_o cavillation_n of_o stapleton_n the_o whole_a form_n of_o the_o church_n be_v for_o some_o age_n unknown_a to_o the_o ungrateful_a world_n and_o in_o his_o book_n of_o succession_n pag._n 118_o they_o confess_v christ_n but_o not_o always_o before_o heretic_n but_o before_o themselves_o and_o the_o church_n and_o in_o his_o note_n upon_o the_o 11._o cap._n of_o the_o act_n if_o by_o visible_a you_o understand_v that_o which_o be_v see_v and_o know_v to_o the_o whole_a world_n it_o be_v not_o true_a that_o the_o church_n be_v always_o visible_a d._n morton_n in_o the_o 1._o part_n of_o his_o apology_n book_n 1._o cap._n 16._o say_v they_o profess_v secret_o not_o public_o d._n white_a in_o his_o way_n to_o the_o church_n pag._n 95_o that_o they_o profess_v among_o themselves_o osiander_n in_o his_o manuel_n pag._n 59_o in_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o rome_n there_o be_v the_o invisible_a company_n of_o believer_n hide_v to_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o world_n caelius_n secundus_fw-la curio_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o lardgne_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n pag._n 212_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o for_o many_o year_n the_o church_n lie_v hide_v and_o that_o the_o citizen_n of_o this_o kingdom_n can_v scarce_o or_o not_o at_o all_o be_v discern_v from_o other_o and_o the_o scot_n in_o their_o general_a confession_n we_o say_v that_o this_o be_v the_o only_a true_a christian_a say_v which_o be_v now_o reveal_v to_o the_o world_n thus_o they_o acknowledge_v that_o before_o luther_n tym_fw-mi protestant_n be_v unknown_a to_o the_o pope_n and_o his_o officer_n to_o their_o
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the_o gradual_a psalm_n tom_n 3._o fol._n 5â—5_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o my_o quarrel_n i_o take_v all_o the_o matter_n upon_o myself_o and_o do_v think_v that_o by_o god_n help_n i_o alone_o shall_v sustain_v it_o and_o otherwhere_o as_o before_o be_v report_v he_o say_v that_o without_o he_o other_o shall_v not_o have_v know_v one_o jot_n of_o the_o gospel_n melancthon_n in_o the_o preface_n of_o the_o act_n of_o ratisbon_n tom_n 4._o pag._n 730_o say_v luther_n alone_o dare_v meddle_v with_o the_o error_n of_o the_o pope_n &_o school_n zuinglius_fw-la in_o his_o exegesis_n to_o 2._o term_v luther_n jonathas_n who_o alone_o dare_v set_v upon_o the_o camp_n of_o the_o philistian_o and_o caluin_n in_o his_o admonition_n to_o westphalus_n pag._n 787._o say_v luther_n alone_o doubt_v not_o to_o set_v upon_o all_o popery_n beside_o luther_n as_o before_o we_o have_v rehearse_v write_v that_o the_o only_a scripture_n be_v leave_v whereby_o man_n may_v recover_v the_o faith_n but_o if_o 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tom_fw-mi 3._o fol._n 568_o the_o church_n have_v no_o true_a ministry_n under_o antichrist_n ministry_n no_o true_a ministry_n upon_o the_o 25._o of_o genesis_n tom_n 6._o fol._n 319_o in_o our_o time_n after_o those_o popish_a monster_n the_o true_a knowledge_n of_o the_o word_n and_o of_o divine_a ordination_n be_v extinguish_v and_o upon_o the_o 49._o chap._n fol._n 655_o extinguish_v extinguish_v we_o be_v not_o the_o church_n for_o any_o ordinary_a succession_n caluin_n epist_n 290_o because_o the_o true_a rank_n of_o ordination_n be_v break_v of_o by_o the_o tyranny_n of_o the_o pope_n now_o we_o need_v have_v new_a help_n to_o raise_v again_o the_o church_n of_o break_a of_o and_o in_o answer_n to_o sadolet_n pag._n 132._o he_o write_v that_o when_o the_o supremacy_n of_o the_o pope_n be_v set_v up_o the_o true_a order_n of_o the_o church_n perish_v perish_v perish_v and_o of_o true_a reformation_n p._n 322_o not_o without_o cause_n do_v we_o avouch_v the_o church_n of_o god_n for_o some_o age_n to_o have_v be_v so_o ioâ—ne_a and_o scatter_v that_o be_v it_o be_v destitute_a of_o true_a pastor_n beza_n in_o his_o catechism_n pastor_n destitute_a of_o pastor_n title_n of_o the_o church_n cap._n 5_o sect_n 18_o in_o our_o time_n it_o come_v to_o pass_v thing_n be_v so_o fall_v down_o that_o there_o be_v leave_v no_o place_n for_o ordinary_a vocation_n and_o epist_n 5._o pag._n 39_o in_o our_o time_n ordinary_a vocation_n where_o ordinary_a vocation_n no_o where_o which_o no_o where_n be_v neither_o can_v nor_o aught_o to_o be_v expect_v and_o epist_n 24_o you_o know_v be_v teach_v by_o fresh_a example_n how_o the_o public_a ministry_n be_v as_o it_o be_v overwhelm_v for_o a_o time_n yet_o the_o church_n of_o god_n remain_v and_o epist_n 81_o the_o matter_n come_v to_o that_o pass_n ground_n overthrow_v to_o the_o ground_n that_o the_o ecclesiastical_a order_n be_v whole_o overthrow_v even_o to_o the_o foundation_n the_o vain_a name_n thereof_o only_o remain_v 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not_o where_o but_o in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n hyperius_n in_o his_o method_n of_o divinity_n lib._n 3._o pag._n 349_o be_v not_o the_o true_a church_n at_o that_o time_n of_o elias_n altogether_o invisible_a to_o man_n and_o know_v to_o god_n alone_o the_o swisser_n confession_n cap._n 17_o the_o church_n hide_v from_o our_o eye_n and_o know_v to_o god_n only_o alone_o know_a to_o god_n alone_o do_v often_o fly_v the_o judgement_n of_o man_n besnage_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o state_n of_o the_o visible_a and_o invisible_a church_n cap._n 4_o the_o church_n be_v eftsoon_o know_v to_o god_n alone_o son_n be_v in_o his_o answer_n to_o sponde_v cap._n 2._o pag._n 32_o we_o say_v the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n be_v such_o as_o be_v sometime_o know_v to_o god_n alone_o and_o d._n whitaker_n cont._n 2._o quest_n 3._o cap._n 3._o pag._n 478_o we_o say_v that_o the_o external_a state_n of_o the_o church_n do_v cease_v and_o that_o the_o faithful_a and_o godly_a may_v be_v so_o 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of_o christ_n for_o thus_o he_o write_v popery_n as_o judaisme_n heretofore_o signify_v that_o company_n which_o at_o least_o in_o her_o time_n have_v the_o true_a church_n with_o it_o such_o be_v the_o jew_n before_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o papist_n before_o the_o come_n of_o luther_n his_o meaning_n as_o i_o suppose_v be_v that_o as_o the_o christian_a church_n be_v in_o state_n another_o church_n from_o the_o synagogue_n because_o it_o have_v other_o sacrament_n other_o sacrifice_n and_o more_o point_n of_o faith_n and_o christ_n another_o founder_n of_o the_o church_n distinct_a from_o moses_n so_o the_o protestant_a church_n be_v a_o distinct_a church_n from_o the_o ancient_a christian_a church_n and_o luther_n not_o only_o another_o elias_n as_o they_o call_v he_o but_o also_o another_o messiah_n a_o founder_n and_o beginner_n of_o another_o church_n distinct_a from_o that_o of_o christ_n at_o least_o as_o far_o as_o his_o church_n differ_v from_o the_o synagogue_n behold_v christian_n reader_n whereto_o all_o their_o wind_a turn_v and_o double_v about_o the_o be_v of_o their_o church_n in_o popery_n be_v come_v sure_o as_o s._n augustin_n say_v 12._o l_o 20._o cont_n faust_n c._n 12._o against_o the_o manichee_n their_o imagination_n have_v lose_v all_o way_n for_o they_o be_v nothing_o bâ—â—_n the_o vision_n of_o frantic_a man_n for_o their_o remain_v no_o probable_a way_n to_o defend_v that_o their_o church_n be_v heretofore_o in_o popery_n it_o be_v mere_a frenzy_n to_o think_v that_o it_o waâ—_n in_o popery_n virtual_o and_o implicit_o like_v as_o a_o plant_n iâ—_n in_o the_o seed_n or_o a_o man_n in_o a_o child_n at_o the_o christiaâ—_n church_n once_o be_v in_o the_o synagogue_n or_o that_o it_o waâ—_n open_o distinct_a in_o communion_n and_o profession_n froâ—_n papist_n or_o that_o it_o consist_v of_o such_o which_o either_o iâ—_n hart_n or_o at_o least_o in_o profession_n be_v papist_n or_o final_o that_o the_o church_n of_o god_n such_o as_o they_o will_v haâ—â—_n the_o protestant_n to_o be_v be_v for_o many_o age_n in_o a_o different_a yea_o a_o most_o opposite_a church_n where_o neither_o by_o divine_a nor_o humane_a testimony_n it_o can_v be_v prove_v to_o have_v be_v neither_o can_v there_o any_o way_n be_v imagine_v by_o which_o it_o may_v with_o any_o appearance_n or_o probability_n be_v say_v to_o have_v be_v there_o thus_o say_v s._n augustine_n do_v they_o dote_v ul_a lib._n 20._o count_n faust_n c._n ul_a who_o not_o abide_v true_a doctrine_n turn_v to_o fable_n 12_o and_o out_o of_o these_o wherewith_o we_o have_v show_v that_o the_o protestant_a church_n heretofore_o be_v not_o in_o popery_n be_v refute_v also_o zanchius_n praefat._n lib._n de_fw-fr natura_fw-la dei_fw-la where_o he_o say_v that_o their_o brethren_n in_o time_n past_o live_v in_o some_o obscure_a valley_n and_o mountain_n and_o meet_v at_o night_n and_o d._n fulke_o lib._n the_o success_n pag._n 324._o saying_n that_o in_o europe_n the_o church_n be_v by_o antichrist_n thrust_v into_o obscure_a place_n but_o lest_o they_o shall_v be_v trip_v in_o their_o lie_v they_o name_v neither_o those_o mountain_n nor_o valley_n nor_o place_n nor_o their_o night-owle-brethren_n nor_o final_o prove_v any_o thing_n 9_o l._n 14._o cont_n faust_n c._n 9_o but_o as_o s._n augustin_n say_v of_o faustus_n they_o say_v it_o &_o away_o they_o never_o seek_v to_o prove_v it_o or_o as_o christ_n say_v of_o the_o adversary_n man_n they_o sow_v cockle_n and_o depart_v it_o suffice_v for_o these_o new_a pythagorian_o to_o pour_v out_o lie_v like_o oracle_n for_o they_o assure_v themselves_o that_o with_o reckless_a man_n they_o will_v find_v credit_n of_o themselves_o &_o like_a weed_n grow_v without_o till_v hence_o also_o be_v refute_v the_o same_o fulke_n in_o cap._n 10._o apocal._n where_o he_o affirm_v his_o brethren_n heretofore_o have_v live_v in_o the_o alps_n in_o the_o apennine_a mountain_n and_o in_o the_o hereinian_a forest_n he_o may_v better_o have_v say_v they_o live_v in_o the_o wilderness_n of_o utopia_n for_o he_o prove_v nothing_o 26_o l._n 16._o cont_n faust_n c._n 26_o o_o man_n that_o i_o may_v cry_v out_o which_o s._n augustine_n thinck_v only_o of_o his_o own_o talk_n and_o not_o think_v of_o any_o gainesayer_n again_o do_v thou_o not_o know_v 54._o lib._n 4._o cont_n cres_n c._n 54._o or_o do_v thou_o not_o feel_v with_o the_o heart_n of_o what_o man_n soever_o that_o in_o dispute_v where_o truth_n be_v seek_v where_o proof_n follow_v not_o the_o talk_n be_v vain_a and_o foolish_a wherefore_o now_o let_v we_o hear_v their_o argument_n or_o rather_o sophism_n wherewith_o sometime_o they_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v that_o their_o church_n be_v in_o time_n pass_v in_o popery_n the_o sophism_n wherewith_o some_o protestant_a make_v show_v to_o prove_v that_o their_o church_n be_v heretofore_o in_o popery_n refute_v chap._n x._o 1._o the_o first_o argument_n wherewith_o protestant_n will_v seem_v to_o prove_v that_o their_o church_n in_o former_a time_n be_v in_o popery_n be_v ground_v upon_o that_o saying_n apocal._n 18_o go_v out_o of_o she_o babylon_n my_o people_n therefore_o god_n people_n be_v in_o babylon_n that_o be_v say_v theâ—_n in_o popery_n thus_o argue_v luther_n in_o cap._n 12._o genes_n tom_fw-mi 6._o fol._n 144._o and_o in_o cap._n 19_o fol._n 234._o the_o magdeburgian_o in_o praefat._n centur._n 8._o plessy_a lib._n de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 10._o and_o other_o common_o yea_o m._n perkins_n in_o his_o reform_a catholic_a tract_n 22._o write_v that_o by_o this_o commandment_n it_o may_v be_v gather_v that_o the_o true_a church_n be_v and_o be_v long_a time_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n wherein_o he_o speak_v more_o true_o than_o he_o mean_v for_o the_o true_a church_n be_v and_o be_v always_o in_o the_o roman_a but_o the_o protestant_n neither_o be_v nor_o be_v there_o to_o the_o argument_n i_o answer_v that_o this_o place_n can_v be_v no_o sufficient_a ground_n of_o faith_n among_o the_o protestans_fw-la because_o their_o angel_n their_o apostle_n and_o evangelist_n martin_n luther_n deny_v the_o apocalypse_n to_o be_v canonical_a scripture_n again_o though_o indeed_o it_o be_v canonical_a scripture_n yet_o for_o the_o most_o part_n it_o be_v so_o obscure_a as_o but_o very_o few_o place_n thereof_o be_v fit_a to_o ground_v any_o point_n of_o faith_n as_o be_v evident_a both_o by_o the_o book_n itself_o which_o be_v well_o nigh_o all_o mystical_a and_o allegorical_a and_o by_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o father_n and_o confession_n of_o protestant_n 20._o euseb_n l._n 7._o cap._n 20._o for_o thus_o say_v s._n denis_n patriarch_n of_o alexandria_n of_o the_o apocalypse_n i_o very_o think_v that_o almost_o in_o every_o sentence_n there_o lie_v some_o mystical_a and_o marvellous_a sense_n likewise_o s._n hierome_n paulin._n epist_n ad_fw-la paulin._n the_o apocalypse_n have_v as_o many_o mystery_n as_o word_n and_o s._n augustin_n in_o the_o book_n of_o the_o apocalypse_n many_o obscure_a thing_n be_v tell_v and_o there_o be_v few_o thing_n therein_o 17._o lib_n 20._o de_fw-mi civit._n c._n 17._o by_o light_n whereof_o the_o rest_n may_v be_v seek_v aught_o with_o labour_n and_o with_o protestant_n d._n andrew_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o bellarmine_n apology_n cap._n 9_o be_v he_o ignorant_a that_o concern_v the_o apocalypse_n nothing_o certain_a or_o of_o faith_n be_v yet_o prescribe_v by_o the_o church_n that_o it_o may_v be_v lawful_a to_o use_v one_o only_a kind_n of_o interpretation_n and_o no_o other_o as_o if_o it_o be_v so_o clear_a and_o evident_a that_o it_o be_v a_o heinous_a offence_n to_o leave_v it_o or_o to_o dissent_v any_o way_n from_o it_o yea_o as_o any_o may_v with_o great_a probability_n show_v the_o prophecy_n there_o to_o be_v fulfil_v so_o be_v it_o free_a for_o any_o to_o use_v his_o judgement_n &_o to_o follow_v his_o own_o opinion_n in_o explicate_v they_o and_o d._n whitaker_n cont._n 4._o quest_n 5._o cap._n 3_o pag._n 677_o it_o be_v well_o enough_o know_v that_o john_n in_o the_o apocalypse_n speak_v not_o of_o clear_a and_o open_a matter_n but_o of_o obscurt_n and_o hide_a m._n brightman_n in_o his_o preface_n of_o the_o apocalypse_n in_o so_o great_a abundance_n of_o ancient_a and_o new_a exposition_n the_o apocalypse_n yet_o as_o all_o agree_v need_v a_o apocalypse_n and_o m._n sheldon_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o miracle_n of_o antichrist_n cap._n 4._o pag._n 54_o call_v it_o a_o dark_a &_o mystical_a prophecy_n in_o which_o say_v he_o quot_fw-la verba_fw-la tot_fw-la latent_fw-la mysteria_fw-la and_o pag._n 226_o the_o apocalypse_n be_v a_o book_n whole_o mystical_a which_o do_v except_v some_o few_o doctrinal_a rule_n and_o exhortation_n to_o virtue_n in_o type_n figure_n form_n and_o resemblance_n describe_v and_o foretell_v the_o future_a event_n of_o the_o
also_o in_o that_o name_n it_o can_v be_v say_v that_o they_o be_v call_v so_o in_o disgrace_n or_o contempt_n four_o it_o appear_v to_o be_v false_a that_o d._n morton_n lib._n cit_fw-la and_o d._n sutlive_v lib._n de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 2._o say_v it_o be_v rather_o to_o be_v attribute_v to_o a_o lie_n then_o to_o luther_n desert_n that_o protestant_n call_v themselves_o lutheran_n for_o as_o we_o see_v luther_n himself_o call_v they_o so_o and_o therein_o they_o follow_v his_o example_n neither_o skill_v it_o that_o luther_n do_v once_o dislike_v this_o name_n because_o he_o do_v oftentimes_o use_v it_o &_o it_o be_v usual_a to_o luther_n to_o allow_v and_o disallow_v the_o same_o thing_n five_o we_o see_v it_o to_o be_v false_a which_o d._n whitaker_n write_v count_v 2_o quest_n 5._o cap._n 2_o pag._n 494_o none_o of_o we_o ever_o call_v himself_o a_o lutheran_n we_o acknowledge_v not_o these_o name_n nor_o be_v we_o delight_v with_o they_o this_o name_n our_o adversary_n have_v fasten_v upon_o we_o only_o upon_o malice_n and_o envy_n neither_o be_v we_o call_v lutheran_n but_o of_o the_o papist_n false_a also_o be_v that_o which_o d._n fulke_n say_v the_o success_n pag._n 188._o that_o they_o acknowledge_v no_o other_o name_n proper_a to_o their_o religion_n but_o the_o name_n of_o christian_n and_o catholic_n these_o i_o say_v be_v false_a for_o luther_n who_o d._n whitaker_n account_v his_o father_n and_o the_o lutheran_n who_o he_o term_v his_o brethren_n in_o christ_n do_v call_v themselves_o so_o and_o be_v well_o please_v with_o that_o name_n beside_o they_o be_v so_o term_v of_o the_o sacramentary_n and_o common_a people_n and_o therefore_o not_o of_o papist_n only_o nor_o upon_o malice_n and_o envy_n but_o as_o graver_n say_v true_o for_o distinction_n sake_n and_o that_o most_o just_o for_o as_o s._n athanase_n say_v who_o derive_v the_o origin_n of_o their_o say_v from_o other_o then_o christ_n just_o carry_v the_o surname_n of_o their_o author_n but_o protestant_n as_o we_o have_v show_v confess_v that_o they_o derive_v the_o origin_n of_o their_o faith_n from_o luther_n therefore_o just_o they_o bear_v his_o name_n 8._o out_o of_o all_o which_o have_v be_v rehearse_v in_o this_o chapter_n i_o thus_o frame_v my_o nine_o demonstration_n of_o this_o matter_n if_o luther_n and_o many_o other_o famous_a protestant_n sometime_o indeed_o some_o time_n in_o plain_a word_n do_v confess_v that_o luther_n be_v the_o author_n of_o their_o church_n and_o religion_n he_o ought_v to_o be_v so_o take_v and_o esteem_v but_o they_o do_v so_o confess_v ergo._n the_o minor_n be_v evident_a by_o all_o that_o be_v say_v in_o this_o chapter_n and_o the_o mayor_n by_o what_o we_o say_v in_o the_o preface_n for_o so_o many_o and_o such_o principal_a protestant_n know_v well_o the_o origin_n of_o their_o religion_n and_o willing_o will_v not_o lie_v to_o the_o disgrace_n and_o overthrow_v thereof_o that_o protestant_n can_v prove_v their_o church_n to_o have_v be_v before_o luther_n time_n by_o any_o probable_a argument_n or_o sufficient_a testimony_n chap._n xv._o the_o ten_o and_o last_o demonstration_n for_o to_o prove_v that_o luther_n be_v the_o first_o author_n of_o the_o protestant_n church_n and_o religion_n i_o will_v take_v from_o hence_o that_o albeit_o protestant_n do_v sometime_o bold_o affirm_v their_o church_n and_o religion_n to_o have_v be_v before_o luther_n time_n yet_o they_o can_v never_o prove_v it_o by_o any_o reasonable_a argument_n or_o sufficient_a testimony_n which_o thing_n alone_o will_v suffice_v to_o show_v that_o as_o i_o say_v before_o it_o be_v a_o fable_n vain_o feign_v false_o affirm_v and_o fond_o believe_v it_o have_v be_v always_o the_o fashion_n of_o heretic_n bold_o to_o avouch_v any_o thing_n but_o few_o thing_n to_o prove_v even_o in_o show_n this_o s._n augustin_n do_v often_o observe_v in_o the_o manichee_n and_o donatist_n and_o some_o of_o his_o say_n we_o have_v allege_v before_o of_o eunomius_n s._n eunom_fw-la s._n lib._n 2._o cont_n eunom_fw-la basil_n note_v the_o same_o and_o s._n 118._o s._n serm._n 6._o in_o psal_n 118._o ambrose_n of_o all_o heretic_n say_v heretic_n be_v wolf_n they_o can_v howl_v but_o prove_v nothing_o and_o this_o do_v protestant_n confess_v for_o thus_o d._n whitaker_n count_v 2_o quest_n 5._o cap_n 18_o heretic_n be_v wont_a to_o boast_v and_o promise_v truth_n diatrib_n in_o diatrib_n but_o not_o to_o prove_v it_o of_o luther_n thus_o write_v zuinglius_fw-la tom_n 2._o fol._n 473._o and_o 509_o one_o argument_n he_o have_v in_o all_o these_o matter_n he_o say_v it_o and_o fol._n 447_o luther_n rely_v only_o upon_o his_o â—oyes_n and_o devise_n fol._n 395_o thou_o put_v forth_o whatsoever_o the_o motion_n of_o thy_o affection_n do_v appoint_v and_o when_o a_o reason_n of_o thy_o say_n be_v exact_v of_o thou_o thou_o stand_v naked_a unarm_v and_o of_o the_o lutheran_n thus_o write_v erasmus_n they_o say_v it_o and_o for_o that_o alone_o they_o will_v be_v believe_v of_o the_o sacramentarye_n in_o like_a manner_n luther_n write_v in_o defence_n verb._n coenae_fw-la tom_n 7._o fol._n 384._o one_o word_n not_o easy_o overturn_v all_o these_o thing_n for_o if_o you_o deny_v they_o then_o as_o butter_n melt_v in_o the_o sun_n so_o they_o quail_v and_o the_o same_o be_v evident_a to_o all_o that_o read_v the_o book_n either_o of_o lutheran_n or_o sacramentarye_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n they_o cry_v to_o we_o that_o that_o pythagorical_a word_n he_o say_v it_o have_v no_o other_o place_n but_o in_o 3._o in_o whit_n lib._n 2._o the_o script_n cap._n 10._o sect_n 5._o bullenger_n in_o comp_n l._n 1._o c._n 3._o christ_n and_o the_o scripture_n that_o in_o other_o it_o be_v the_o proper_a argument_n of_o 468._o of_o vorstius_n antibel_n p._n 468._o fool_n that_o to_o affirm_v any_o thing_n beside_o scripture_n be_v to_o 19_o to_o powel_n l._n 1._o de_fw-fr antic_a c._n 19_o trifle_v that_o till_o we_o prove_v our_o affirmative_a they_o will_v stand_v in_o their_o 437._o their_o luth._o tom_n 2._o fol._n 437._o negative_a and_o exact_a 74._o exact_a vorstius_n l._n cit_fw-la fulke_o the_o success_n p._n 74._o demonstration_n that_o be_v either_o express_a testimony_n of_o scripture_n or_o forcible_a reason_n deduce_v from_o thence_o now_o we_o say_v the_o same_o to_o they_o they_o affirm_v their_o church_n to_o have_v be_v before_o luther_n time_n we_o deny_v it_o until_o they_o prove_v it_o neither_o let_v they_o affirm_v it_o only_o which_o be_v the_o proof_n of_o fool_n &_o wilful_a man_n but_o if_o they_o can_v bring_v demonstration_n thereof_o at_o least_o let_v they_o produce_v some_o credible_a testimony_n or_o some_o effectual_a reason_n and_o argument_n otherwise_o their_o belief_n in_o this_o matter_n 11._o scorp_n c._n 11._o be_v as_o say_v tertullian_n a_o perverse_a belief_n which_o will_v not_o believe_v thing_n prove_v and_o believe_v thing_n which_o can_v be_v prove_v 2._o that_o in_o this_o matter_n they_o be_v destitute_a of_o all_o credible_a testimony_n appear_v sufficent_o by_o what_o have_v heretofore_o be_v rehearse_v of_o their_o own_o confession_n and_o now_o we_o will_v show_v that_o they_o want_v also_o all_o probable_a reason_n or_o argument_n for_o all_o their_o argument_n herein_o be_v reduce_v to_o this_o one_o our_o doctrine_n be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n therefore_o our_o church_n be_v always_o since_o christ_n for_o thus_o agree_v d._n whitaker_n count_v 2._o q._n 5._o c._n 3._o p._n 498_o i_o use_v this_o argument_n what_o church_n soever_o keep_v the_o doctrine_n &_o preach_v of_o the_o apostl_n she_o be_v the_o apostolical_a church_n but_o our_o church_n do_v so_o therefore_o etc._n etc._n of_o the_o mayor_n say_v he_o no_o controversy_n can_v be_v make_v and_o cap._n 5._o p._n 505_o it_o be_v our_o church_n which_o be_v in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o afterward_o unto_o the_o apostasy_n but_o how_o do_v we_o prove_v this_o by_o this_o reason_n that_o our_o church_n keep_v the_o same_o faith_n and_o doctrine_n which_o the_o church_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o afterward_o keep_v and_o count_v dureum_fw-la sect_n 1_o if_o thou_o hold_v christ_n doctrine_n thou_o be_v a_o catholic_a and_o sect_n 2_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n which_o keep_v &_o conserve_v christ_n doctrine_n deliver_v in_o his_o word_n dancus_fw-la cont_n 3._o pag._n 388._o with_o we_o be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o god_n because_o we_o restore_v the_o true_a doctrine_n of_o christ_n lubbertus_n lib._n 5_o de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 1_o if_o the_o doctrine_n which_o our_o church_n profess_v be_v the_o same_o which_o christ_n deliver_v than_o our_o church_n be_v that_o which_o christ_n institute_v d._n fulke_o lib._n the_o success_n pag._n 27_o see_v we_o be_v