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A01309 A defense of the sincere and true translations of the holie Scriptures into the English tong against the manifolde cauils, friuolous quarels, and impudent slaunders of Gregorie Martin, one of the readers of popish diuinitie in the trayterous Seminarie of Rhemes. By William Fvlke D. in Diuinitie, and M. of Pembroke haule in Cambridge. Wherevnto is added a briefe confutation of all such quarrels & cauils, as haue bene of late vttered by diuerse papistes in their English pamphlets, against the writings of the saide William Fvlke. Fulke, William, 1538-1589. 1583 (1583) STC 11430.5; ESTC S102715 542,090 704

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own_o salvation_n whereas_o the_o greek_a father_n expound_v it_o of_o the_o full_a and_o assure_a faith_n that_o every_o faithful_a man_n must_v have_v of_o all_o such_o thing_n in_o heaven_n as_o he_o see_v not_o namely_o that_o christ_n be_v ascend_v thither_o etc._n etc._n add_v further_o and_o prove_v out_o of_o the_o apostle_n 10._o word_n next_o follow_v that_o the_o protestants*_n only_a faith_n be_v not_o sufficient_a be_v it_o never_o so_o special_a or_o assure_v fulk_n 2._o have_v nothing_o to_o impugn_v this_o clear_a interpretation_n of_o the_o greek_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o the_o unperfect_a translation_n of_o your_o vulgar_a latin_a interpreter_n who_o be_v both_o a_o unperfect_a graecian_n &_o a_o very_a barbarous_a latinist_n you_o be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o say_v we_o force_v the_o greek_a to_o make_v it_o signify_v assurance_n which_o all_o man_n that_o be_v but_o mean_o learn_v in_o the_o greek_a tongue_n may_v know_v that_o it_o signify_v 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the_o assurance_n of_o faith_n and_o the_o assurance_n of_o faith_n upon_o the_o certain_a persuasion_n of_o knowledge_n and_o understanding_n yea_o your_o vulgar_a interpreter_n translate_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d rom._n 4._o v._n 21._o plenissimè_fw-la sciens_fw-la know_v most_o full_o may_v teach_v you_o that_o it_o signify_v more_o than_o fullness_n for_o else_o he_o shall_v have_v say_v be_v fulfil_v and_o better_a do_v beza_n express_v the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 2._o tim._n 4._o than_o some_o of_o our_o english_a interpreter_n which_o say_v fulfil_v thy_o ministry_n whereas_o the_o apostle_n meaning_n be_v that_o he_o shall_v approve_v the_o credit_n and_o dignity_n of_o his_o ministry_n unto_o other_o man_n but_o the_o greek_a father_n you_o say_v find_v none_o other_o interpretation_n of_o it_o and_o for_o proof_n you_o cite_v ignatius_n ep_v ad_fw-la smyr_n which_o although_o it_o be_v not_o authentical_a yet_o i_o see_v no_o cause_n why_o we_o may_v not_o interpret_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v certain_o persuade_v in_o faith_n &_o love_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o assurance_n of_o faith_n and_o so_o be_v it_o translate_v in_o bibliotheca_fw-la sacra_fw-la margarini_fw-la de_fw-fr la_fw-fr bigne_n plenè_fw-la instructae_fw-la in_o fide_fw-la &_o charitate_fw-la &_o cognovi_fw-la vos_fw-la absolutè_fw-la perfectos_fw-la in_o fool_n stabili_fw-la full_o instruct_v in_o faith_n and_o charity_n and_o i_o have_v know_v you_o absolute_o perfect_a in_o a_o stedfaste_a faith_n chrysostome_n and_o theodoret_n because_o you_o vouch_v at_o large_a i_o know_v not_o what_o you_o will_v show_v out_o of_o they_o in_o theophylact_n i_o find_v that_o he_o speak_v against_o all_o hesitation_n &_o doubtfulness_n of_o faith_n but_o against_o the_o certain_a persuasion_n thereof_o never_o a_o word_n ne_fw-fr aliquam_fw-la inducas_fw-la in_o animum_fw-la tuum_fw-la haesitationem_fw-la neque_fw-la pendeas_fw-la animi_fw-la dubij_fw-la quiddam_fw-la cogitans_fw-la bring_v not_o into_o thy_o mind_n any_o stagger_a neither_o be_v incertain_a of_o thy_o mind_n think_v any_o doubtful_a thing_n but_o for_o the_o signification_n of_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d s._n basil_n may_v be_v a_o sufficient_a witness_n who_o common_o use_v it_o for_o assure_a and_o certain_a persuasion_n ●●_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 26._o every_o word_n and_o deed_n must_v be_v prove_v by●●●_n testimony_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o full_a and_o certain_a persuasion_n of_o the_o go●●●_n &_o to_o the_o shame_n of_o the_o wicked_a again_o desin_n 80._o what_o be_v the_o property_n of_o a_o faithful_a man_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n by_o such_o assure_a persuasion_n to_o be_v dispose_v etc._n etc._n even_o so_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o certain_a persuasion_n of_o godliness_n etc._n etc._n and_o so_o in_o other_o place_n and_o you_o yourself_o confess_v as_o much_o where_o you_o say_v the_o greek_a father_n expound_v it_o of_o the_o full_a assure_a faith_n etc._n etc._n which_o be_v enough_o to_o justify_v our_o translation_n now_o if_o the_o father_n understand_v this_o full_a assure_a faith_n only_o of_o a_o historical_a faith_n as_o you_o say_v &_o not_o of_o trust_n and_o confidence_n in_o god_n it_o be_v a_o other_o controversy_n our_o translation_n be_v not_o false_a although_o we_o have_v a_o false_a meaning_n if_o it_o be_v answerable_a to_o the_o word_n neither_o do_v chrysostome_n speak_v of_o a_o historical_a faith_n only_o by_o certainty_n whereof_o we_o have_v access_n unto_o god_n but_o also_o of_o confidence_n which_o remission_n of_o our_o sin_n do_v cause_n and_o that_o we_o be_v make_v coheire_n with_o christ_n &_o that_o we_o enjoy_v so_o great_a love_n neither_o do_v he_o prove_v that_o the_o protestant_n only_a faith_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o justify_v but_o the_o apostle_n show_v say_v he_o that_o not_o faith_n alone_o but_o also_o a_o virtuous_a life_n be_v require_v &_o that_o a_o man_n be_v not_o guilty_a to_o himself_o of_o maliciousness_n for_o these_o holy_a place_n do_v not_o receive_v those_o man_n with_o certain_a assurance_n which_o be_v not_o make_v such_o this_o judgement_n of_o chrysostome_n the_o protestant_n do_v allow_v of_o better_a than_o the_o papist_n for_o we_o know_v that_o a_o godly_a life_n be_v necessary_a in_o they_o that_o believe_v to_o justification_n without_o which_o they_o can_v have_v no_o assurance_n of_o faith_n no_o nor_o faith_n in_o deed_n but_o that_o which_o be_v by_o aequivocation_n call_v faith_n such_o say_v as_o the_o devil_n and_o the_o reprobate_n may_v have_v mart._n 3._o yet_o do_v these_o term_n please_v they_o exceed_o in_o so_o much_o that_o for_o the_o choose_a gift_n of_o faith_n sap._n 3._o 14._o they_o 9_o translate_v the_o special_a gift_n of_o faith_n and_o rom._n 8._o 38._o ●●ni_fw-fr sure_a that_o nothing_o can_v separate_v we_o from_o the_o love_n of_o god_n 〈◊〉_d though_o the_o apostle_n be_v certain_a and_o assure_v not_o only_o of_o h_z 〈…〉_o wne_z salvation_n but_o of_o other_o man_n for_o to_o this_o sense_n they_o do_v 〈◊〉_d translate_v here_o whereas_o in_o other_o place_n out_o of_o controversy_n they_o translate_v the_o same_o word_n as_o they_o shall_v do_v i_o be_o persuade_v they_o be_v persuade_v etc._n etc._n for_o who_o know_v not_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d import_v only_o a_o probable_a persuasion_n they_o will_v say_v that_o i_o be_o sure_a and_o i_o be_o persuade_v be_v all_o one_o be_v well_o mean_v they_o may_v indeed_o signify_v alike_o as_o the_o vulgar_a latin_a interpreter_n do_v common_o translate_v it_o but_o in_o this_o place_n of_o controversy_n whether_o the_o apostle_n be_v sure_a of_o his_o salvation_n or_o no_o which_o you_o say_v he_o be_v yea_o without_o revelation_n we_o say_v he_o be_v not_o here_o why_o will_v you_o translate_v i_o be_o sure_a and_o not_o as_o in_o other_o place_n i_o be_o persuade_v but_o in_o favour_n of_o your_o error_n by_o insinuate_v the_o term_n of_o sure_a and_o assurance_n and_o such_o like_a as_o elsewhere_o you_o neglect_v the_o term_n of_o just_a and_o justification_n 4._o in_o which_o your_o secret_a thing_n of_o dishonesty_n &_o craftiness_n as_o the_o apostle_n call_v it_o we_o can_v always_o use_v demonstration_n to_o convince_v you_o but_o yet_o even_o in_o these_o thing_n we_o talk_v with_o your_o conscience_n and_o leave_v the_o consideration_n thereof_o to_o the_o wise_a reader_n fulk_n 3._o see_v they_o account_v the_o book_n of_o wisdom_n to_o be_v of_o no_o authority_n to_o establish_v the_o certainty_n of_o doctrine_n it_o be_v not_o like_a they_o can_v have_v any_o such_o respect_n as_o you_o malicious_o surmise_n and_o yet_o the_o translation_n good_a and_o true_a for_o what_o be_v the_o choice_a gift_n of_o faith_n but_o a_o special_a
evident_a absurdity_n thereof_o fulk_n 13._o master_n whitaker_n be_v not_o so_o inconsiderate_a to_o play_v fast_o and_o loose_a as_o you_o be_v intemperate_a and_o untrue_a in_o accuse_v he_o howbeit_o there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o he_o will_v meet_v you_o and_o handle_v you_o according_a to_o your_o virtue_n but_o see_v you_o give_v such_o high_a commendation_n to_o campions_n pamphlet_n as_o that_o you_o call_v it_o a_o learned_a book_n wherein_o beside_o a_o little_a rank_n rhetoric_n more_o meet_a for_o a_o boy_n that_o learn_v to_o practice_v his_o figure_n than_o for_o a_o grave_a divine_a to_o use_v in_o so_o serious_a a_o cause_n there_o be_v nothing_o that_o any_o learned_a man_n may_v think_v worthy_a of_o any_o answer_n we_o may_v well_o perceive_v what_o you_o count_v learning_n &_o what_o be_v the_o pillar_n of_o your_o popish_a religion_n the_o book_n be_v both_o in_o print_n let_v the_o world_n judge_v of_o both_o indifferent_o mart._n 14_o but_o to_o leave_v m._n 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