which_o be_v before_o you_o mat._n 5_o 11_o 12_o a_o table_n of_o some_o principal_a thing_n contain_v in_o these_o treatise_n the_o first_o trtatise_n touch_v the_o anabaptist_n chap._n i._n of_o the_o baptise_n of_o child_n pag._n 1_o objection_n 1._o that_o there_o be_v not_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n mention_v of_o any_o child_n so_o baptize_v pag._n 4_o object_n 2._o out_o of_o act._n 16.32.34_o that_o the_o jailor_n with_o his_o household_n believe_v in_o god_n pag._n 7_o object_n 3._o out_o of_o mat._n 28_o 18_o 19_o that_o christ_n command_v the_o apostle_n first_o to_o teach_v and_o then_o to_o baptise_v pag._n 8_o object_n 4._o of_o the_o reason_n from_o circumcision_n to_o baptism_n pag._n 11_o object_n 5._o of_o the_o difference_n between_o the_o jew_n estate_n &_o we_o their_o ministration_n of_o circumcision_n to_o the_o male_n only_o and_o on_o the_o eight_o day_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 13._o object_n 6._o of_o the_o jew_n and_o proselyte_n that_o be_v both_o circumcise_v and_o baptise_a pag._n 20._o object_n 7._o that_o christ_n be_v not_o baptize_v till_o he_o be_v about_o thirty_o year_n old_a pag._n 21_o object_n 8._o that_o child_n understand_v not_o the_o mystery_n of_o baptism_n pag._n 23_o chap._n ii_o touch_v original_a sin_n in_o child_n p._n 23_o chap._n iii_o that_o baptism_n receive_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n or_o other_o apostatical_a church_n be_v not_o to_o be_v repeat_v pag._n 27_o object_n 1._o that_o it_o be_v not_o true_a baptism_n but_o a_o idol_n and_o lie_a sign_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 30_o object_n 2._o of_o the_o corrupt_a ministration_n thereof_o and_o erroneous_a opinion_n hold_v thereabout_o pag._n 37_o object_n 3._o that_o there_o be_v divers_a sort_n of_o idol_n and_o both_o kind_n in_o the_o popish_a baptism_n pag._n 41_o object_n 4._o that_o israel_n in_o their_o apostasy_n be_v not_o the_o church_n and_o people_n of_o god_n but_o divorce_v from_o he_o &_o have_v the_o covenant_n also_o break_v on_o the_o lord_n part_n etc._n etc._n where_o also_o be_v handle_v the_o scripture_n allege_v hereabout_o 2_o chro._n 15.3_o jer._n 3_o 8._o hos_fw-la 2_o 2._o and_o 13_o 1._o numb_a 23_o 1._o etc._n etc._n p._n 57_o etc._n etc._n object_n 5._o that_o israel_n be_v call_v the_o people_n of_o god_n because_o they_o have_v be_v so_o before_o though_o now_o they_o be_v not_o so_o in_o their_o apostasy_n etc._n etc._n where_o also_o be_v treat_v of_o the_o scripture_n here_o allege_v hos_fw-la 1.9_o and_o 2.2.7.18.19.20.23_o 2_o chron._n 15.3_o mic._n 2.7.8_o joh._n 10.16_o etc._n etc._n p._n 97_o etc._n etc._n object_n 6._o that_o if_o israel_n be_v the_o church_n and_o people_n of_o god_n than_o none_o may_v leave_v they_o but_o they_o shall_v fall_v into_o schism_n pag._n 116_o object_n 7._o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o the_o church_n of_o god_n nor_o under_o his_o covenant_n neither_o have_v any_o of_o the_o lord_n post_n and_o ordinance_n leave_v in_o it_o but_o be_v divorce_v from_o the_o lord_n etc._n etc._n where_o also_o be_v treat_v of_o 2_o thes_n 2.3.4_o and_o rev._n 11.1.2_o and_o of_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n there_o speak_v off_o and_o of_o judah_n and_o antiochus_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 119._o etc._n etc._n chap._n four_o reply_v and_o answer_n concern_v church_n in_o apostasy_n and_o more_o particular_o touch_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 139_o where_o again_o 2_o thes_n 2.3.4_o &_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n be_v further_a treat_v off_o pag._n 142_o also_o of_o the_o beast_n the_o great_a city_n babylon_n etc._n etc._n speak_v of_o rev._n 11._o and_o 13._o &_o 17._o etc._n etc._n pag._n 152_o of_o god_n people_n in_o babylon_n speak_v of_o rev._n 18_o 4._o where_o also_o be_v treat_v of_o the_o baptism_n have_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 166_o of_o israel_n heretofore_o and_o christian_a church_n since_o be_v in_o defection_n pag._n 171_o of_o a_o double_a regard_n to_o be_v have_v of_o church_n in_o apostasy_n pag._n 176_o 183._o etc._n etc._n of_o m._n junius_n his_o judgement_n touch_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n pag._n 182_o testimony_n of_o old_a and_o late_a writer_n touch_v antichrist_n sit_v in_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n speak_v of_o 2_o thes_n 2_o 3_o 4._o pag._n 211_o touch_v the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o particular_a pag._n 215_o the_o second_o treatise_n touch_v the_o remonstrant_n call_v arminian_o of_o the_o decree_n of_o god_n election_n ch_n 1._o p._n 221_o of_o god_n decree_n of_o reprobation_n ch_n 2._o p._n 224_o touch_v general_a redemption_n ch_n 3._o p._n 229_o of_o free_a will_n or_o power_n in_o ourselves_o unto_o good_a since_o the_o fall_n ch_n 4._o pag._n 233_o of_o the_o saint_n perseverance_n ch_n 5._o pag._n 240_o the_o three_o treatise_n concern_v the_o protestant_n and_o reform_a church_n touch_v book_n prayer_n chap._n 1._o pag._n 245_o of_o the_o constitution_n of_o particular_a church_n chap._n 2._o pag._n 249_o of_o the_o right_n and_o power_n of_o particular_a church_n chap._n 3._o pag._n 252_o of_o the_o pastor_n &_o other_o officer_n administration_n chap._n 4._o pag._n 255_o of_o the_o distinction_n of_o the_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n office_n chap._n 5._o pag._n 259_o of_o the_o have_v of_o one_o or_o more_o pastor_n in_o particular_a church_n also_o of_o diocesan_n &_o provincial_a bishop_n etc._n etc._n chap._n 6._o pag._n 261_o of_o the_o teacher_n &_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n in_o general_n etc._n etc._n chap._n 7._o pag._n 278_o touch_v the_o exercise_n of_o prophecy_n pag._n 281_o of_o the_o ministration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n to_o all_o person_n general_o chap._n 9_o p._n 282_o touch_v the_o manner_n of_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n where_o also_o touch_v the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n and_o kneel_v at_o the_o lord_n supper_n etc._n etc._n chap_n 10._o pag._n 284_o of_o the_o dispose_n blessing_n break_v distribute_v of_o the_o bread_n &_o wine_n ch_n 11._o p._n 285_o of_o the_o minister_n communicate_v with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n chap._n 12._o pag._n 286_o of_o the_o rule_v elder_n deacon_n or_o common_a people_n minister_a the_o sacrament_n p._n 287_o touch_v the_o often_o celebrate_v the_o lord_n supper_n and_o of_o the_o time_n of_o the_o day_n whether_o morning_n or_o evening_n ch_n 14._o p._n 289_o touch_v have_v of_o a_o fast_a &_o the_o lord_n supper_n together_o on_o one_o day_n ch_n 15._o p_o 292_o of_o love_n feast_n chap._n 16._o pag._n 293._o of_o the_o observation_n of_o other_o holy_a day_n beside_o the_o lord_n day_n where_o also_o of_o christmas_n and_o easter_n etc._n etc._n ch_n 17._o pag._n 294_o of_o deal_n with_o sinner_n for_o their_o reclaim_v or_o censure_v where_o also_o be_v treat_v of_o suspension_n &_o excommunication_n etc._n etc._n p._n 300_o of_o the_o exposition_n of_o those_o word_n of_o christ_n tell_v the_o church_n mat._n 18_o ch_z 19_o p._n 306_o of_o the_o maintenance_n of_o the_o minister_n and_o other_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n ch_n 20._o p._n 316._o touch_v the_o remnant_n and_o monument_n of_o idolatry_n chap._n 21._o pag._n 318_o touch_v the_o solennization_n of_o marriage_n p._n 319_o of_o the_o general_a duty_n of_o all_o church_n and_o people_n touch_v religion_n ch_n 23_o pag._n 320_o the_o first_o treatise_n of_o some_o question_n concern_v the_o anabaptist_n chapter_n i._o whether_o baptism_n be_v to_o be_v administer_v to_o infant_n be_v the_o child_n of_o the_o faithful_a or_o not_o the_o anabaptist_n misunderstand_v some_o scripture_n and_o not_o find_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n mention_n of_o any_o child_n by_o name_n that_o be_v baptize_v hold_v therefore_o that_o infant_n be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v though_o they_o be_v the_o child_n of_o such_o as_o do_v believe_v the_o error_n of_o which_o opinion_n appear_v by_o these_o scripture_n and_o reason_n deduce_v from_o they_o &_o other_o the_o like_a gen._n 17.7.12.13.14.26.27_o exo._n 12.48.49_o zach._n 2.11_o eph._n 3.6_o with_o act._n 2_o 38_o 39_o &_o 3_o 25._o and_o 16_o 15_o 31_o 33._o 1_o cor._n 1_o 16._o and_o 7_o 14._o and_o 10_o 1_o 2._o rom._n 4_o 11_o 16_o 17._o &_o 15_o 4_o 8_o 9_o 10._o gal._n 3_o 8_o 29._o eph._n 4_o 4_o 5_o 6._o col._n 2_o 8_o 12._o &_o psal_n 22_o 30_o 31._o esa_n 54_o 10._o zach._n 13_o 1._o mar._n 10_o 13_o 16._o i._o because_o it_o be_v the_o ordinance_n &_o commandment_n of_o god_n to_o give_v the_o sign_n and_o seal_n of_o his_o covenant_n of_o grace_n to_o his_o people_n and_o their_o seed_n in_o their_o infancy_n throughout_o their_o generation_n gen._n 17_o 7_o 12_o 13_o 14._o exo._n 12_o 48_o 49._o with_o act._n 2_o 38_o 39_o &_o 3_o 25._o &_o 16_o 15._o col._n 2_o 10_o 11_o 12._o which_o ordinance_n of_o the_o lord_n
way_n far_o more_o cold_a &_o corrupt_a in_o religion_n they_o former_o have_v be_v where_o furthermore_o and_o in_o the_o verse_n follow_a among_o other_o thing_n come_v these_o particular_n to_o be_v observe_v 1._o that_o the_o faithful_a christian_n shall_v be_v much_o fewer_n than_o the_o outward_a profess_v christian_n who_o grow_v now_o into_o apostasy_n deep_o and_o deep_o and_o so_o the_o inner_a church_n to_o be_v much_o lesser_a than_o the_o outward_a visible_a church_n of_o christian_n like_v as_o the_o holy_a place_n with_o the_o altar_n be_v far_o lesser_a than_o the_o court_n and_o city_n and_o the_o priest_n that_o worship_v within_o far_o few_o than_o the_o people_n that_o resort_v to_o the_o court_n and_o city_n without_o to_o which_o purpose_n also_o may_v be_v observe_v in_o the_o prophet_n esay_n how_o the_o jew_n profess_v religion_n flock_v by_o heap_n to_o the_o house_n of_o god_n bring_v a_o multitude_n of_o sacrifice_n to_o the_o lord_n frequent_v his_o court_n and_o city_n continual_o when_o as_o now_o the_o daughter_n of_o zion_n the_o faithful_a church_n of_o the_o seal_a and_o elect_a be_v leave_v as_o a_o cottage_n in_o a_o vineyard_n as_o a_o lodge_n in_o a_o cucumber_n garden_n as_o a_o besiege_a city_n so_o as_o if_o the_o lord_n of_o host_n have_v not_o leave_v they_o a_o feed_n a_o very_a small_a remnant_n they_o shall_v have_v be_v as_o sodom_n and_o gomorrah_n utter_o cut_v off_o and_o destroy_v esa_n 1_o 2_o 8_o 12._o etc._n etc._n ii_o that_o the_o foresay_a sincere_a christian_n be_v as_o it_o be_v hide_v though_o know_v approve_v &_o keep_v by_o the_o lord_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o outward_a profess_v christian_n that_o be_v open_a and_o know_v abroad_o unto_o man_n as_o the_o inward_a part_n of_o the_o temple_n be_v more_o hide_v and_o secret_a in_o respect_n of_o the_o outward_a court_n and_o city_n that_o be_v patent_n to_o the_o view_n and_o access_n of_o al._n iii_o that_o some_o have_v entrance_n &_o access_n into_o 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christian_n such_o also_o as_o be_v treacherous_a apostate_n persecute_v mighty_a and_o outward_o prevayl_v be_v likewise_o here_o call_v heathen_n or_o gentile_n v._n that_o god_n in_o this_o estate_n stir_v up_o among_o and_o against_o they_o his_o witness_n few_o yet_o sufficient_a see_v they_o be_v two_o and_o be_v also_o strengthen_v sanctify_a direct_v preserve_v hear_v and_o bless_v of_o the_o lord_n as_o be_v ch_z be_v rev._n 11_o 4_o with_o zac._n 3_o &_o 4_o ch_z joshua_n and_o zerubbabel_n two_o olive_n tree_n and_o two_o candlestick_n in_o one_o respect_n etc._n respect_n rev._n 11.5_o 6._o with_o ex._n 7_o 19_o etc._n etc._n numb_a 16_o 15_o etc._n etc._n moses_n and_o aaron_n 18._o aaron_n 1_o kin._n 17_o 1._o &_o 18_o &_o 19_o 9_o 17._o &_o 21.17_o 18_o 24._o 1_o king_n 1_o 10_o 12_o 17._o and_o 2_o 9_o 23_o 24._o &_o 3_o &_o 5_o &_o 6_o &_o 7_o &_o 8_o &_o 9_o &_o 13_o 14_o 21_o luk._n 4_o 24_o 25_o 26_o 27._o rom._n 11_o 1_o 5._o jam._n 5_o 17_o 18._o eliah_n and_o 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the_o apostle_n vii_o where_o note_n that_o by_o heaven_n in_o this_o book_n of_o the_o revelat._n be_v often_o mean_v the_o more_o sincere_a entire_a and_o heavenly_a estate_n of_o the_o church_n for_o the_o faith_n worship_n and_o order_n thereof_o and_o by_o the_o earth_n the_o degenerate_a corrupt_a and_o earthly_a estate_n thereof_o in_o apostasy_n also_o that_o as_o by_o degree_n the_o church_n do_v degenerate_a and_o not_o all_o at_o once_o so_o also_o the_o restauration_n thereof_o be_v not_o all_o perform_v at_o once_o but_o proceed_v on_o by_o degree_n as_o we_o may_v observe_v a_o different_a condition_n of_o these_o witness_n themselves_o in_o their_o first_o testimony_n and_o in_o their_o revive_a estate_n and_o afterward_o again_o in_o the_o 14_o chap._n which_o may_v be_v a_o further_a explication_n of_o this_o the_o angel_n there_o speak_v off_o &_o off_o rev._n 14_o 6_o 8_o 9_o &_o proceed_v still_o one_o of_o they_o further_o than_o another_o and_o etc._n and_o v._o 9_o etc._n etc._n the_o three_o call_v more_o direct_o and_o earnest_o for_o separation_n and_o utter_v leave_v of_o the_o beast_n his_o worship_n and_o mark_n than_o do_v the_o first_o and_o second_o and_o then_o afterward_o the_o other_o angel_n there_o speak_v of_o be_v say_v to_o come_v one_o of_o they_o 15._o they_o ver_fw-la 15._o out_o of_o the_o temple_n and_o another_o 17._o another_o ver_fw-la 17._o out_o of_o the_o temple_n which_o be_v in_o heaven_n the_o scripture_n thus_o show_v how_o the_o truth_n be_v manifest_v and_o proceed_v on_o by_o degree_n and_o how_o the_o faithful_a be_v bring_v by_o the_o gospel_n from_o yield_a homage_n unto_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o antichrist_n and_o grow_v up_o more_o and_o more_o to_o have_v the_o temple_n in_o heaven_n the_o church_n in_o her_o heavenly_a open_a and_o sincere_a estate_n as_o it_o be_v before_o the_o earthly_a corruption_n &_o apostasy_n grow_v upon_o it_o viii_o that_o the_o event_n of_o thing_n perform_v according_o may_v the_o more_o confirm_v we_o that_o live_v in_o this_o age_n hereabout_o inasmuch_o as_o now_o we_o know_v that_o etc._n that_o guiliel_n de_fw-fr sancto_fw-it amo_fw-la re_fw-la marcilius_n patuvius_n dante_n be_v fracisc_n petrarcha_n eckharduâ—_n john_n wicleff_n etc._n etc._n the_o former_a angel_n and_o witness_n of_o old_a though_o godly_a man_n and_o martyr_n yet_o continue_v themselves_o many_o of_o they_o in_o the_o apostate_n church_n of_o rome_n and_o other_o church_n that_o be_v corrupt_v with_o the_o like_a apostasy_n preach_v the_o gospel_n unto_o &_o among_o they_o call_v they_o from_o idolatry_n denounce_v the_o fall_n of_o babylon_n etc._n etc._n whereas_o the_o etc._n the_o luther_n viret_n calvin_n
have_v also_o show_v that_o even_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o church_n and_o temple_n of_o god_n as_o judah_n likewise_o and_o israel_n of_o old_a be_v in_o the_o time_n of_o their_o apostasy_n how_o much_o more_o than_o shall_v we_o so_o esteem_v of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n yea_o and_o of_o the_o lutheran_n who_o have_v in_o so_o many_o thing_n now_o leave_v the_o apostasy_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o have_v receive_v the_o doctrine_n of_o justification_n by_o faith_n in_o christ_n alone_o with_o many_o other_o precious_a doctrine_n of_o truth_n that_o be_v yet_o still_o miserable_o deprave_v and_o corrupt_v among_o the_o papist_n but_o hereupon_o some_o object_n and_o say_v if_o they_o be_v the_o church_n of_o god_n none_o may_v leave_v they_o it_o be_v schism_n for_o any_o to_o leave_v those_o that_o be_v the_o church_n and_o people_n of_o god_n and_o why_o then_o do_v you_o not_o continue_v minister_n and_o member_n there_o still_o etc._n etc._n first_o to_o this_o objection_n i_o have_v answer_v before_o pag._n 116_o etc._n etc._n to_o which_o i_o refer_v the_o reader_n as_o also_o to_o that_o which_o m._n junius_n have_v write_v concern_v this_o matter_n as_o may_v be_v see_v here_o before_o pag._n 184_o 186._o second_o if_o this_o objection_n be_v sound_a then_o may_v none_o leave_v the_o present_a estate_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n see_v they_o be_v the_o church_n and_o temple_n of_o god_n as_o before_o have_v be_v declare_v yet_o the_o man_n that_o do_v thus_o object_v have_v many_o of_o they_o leave_v it_o themselves_o and_o m._n junius_n show_v that_o both_o these_o may_v stand_v well_o together_o to_o esteem_v it_o to_o be_v the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o yet_o to_o leave_v &_o forsake_v it_o in_o their_o estate_n yea_o that_o it_o be_v our_o duty_n so_o to_o do_v but_o in_o deed_n to_o note_v this_o by_o the_o way_n well_o may_v it_o be_v that_o some_o protestant_a writer_n otherwise_o of_o great_a &_o good_a judgement_n have_v heretofore_o the_o more_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v the_o church_n of_o god_n because_o they_o think_v if_o that_o be_v grant_v it_o will_v then_o follow_v to_o be_v schism_n for_o any_o to_o leave_v it_o as_o the_o papist_n themselves_o be_v wont_v usual_o to_o object_n but_o the_o consequence_n be_v not_o good_a as_o be_v show_v before_o by_o the_o scripture_n and_o example_n both_o in_o judah_n and_o israel_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 116._o three_o in_o a_o church_n there_o be_v two_o thing_n special_o that_o be_v still_o to_o be_v respect_v the_o faith_n and_o the_o order_n thereof_o col._n 2_o 5._o for_o touch_v the_o worship_n of_o god_n therein_o it_o may_v in_o divers_a respect_n be_v refer_v to_o the_o one_o or_o to_o the_o other_o or_o to_o both_o of_o they_o now_o for_o the_o faith_n which_o be_v in_o christ_n alone_o to_o salvation_n we_o acknowledge_v that_o they_o profess_v it_o sound_o and_o in_o the_o unity_n thereof_o we_o also_o hope_v ourselves_o to_o be_v save_v with_o they_o and_o therefore_o albeit_o they_o entreat_v &_o deal_v ill_a with_o we_o sundry_a way_n yet_o we_o hold_v they_o to_o be_v our_o brethren_n in_o the_o lord_n and_o in_o the_o faith_n of_o his_o gospel_n but_o as_o for_o the_o church_n order_n worship_n and_o government_n ecclesiastical_a we_o hold_v and_o profess_v that_o they_o stand_v yet_o still_o great_o corrupt_v and_o transgress_v the_o second_o commandment_n many_o way_n as_o namely_o church_n namely_o of_o these_o more_o particular_o see_v in_o the_o apology_n and_o other_o treatise_n of_o we_o also_o in_o the_o treatise_n here_o follow_v touch_v the_o reform_a church_n in_o their_o prelacy_n and_o inferior_a ministry_n in_o their_o canon_n constitution_n and_o worship_n devise_v and_o impose_v by_o man_n especial_o in_o the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n according_a to_o which_o all_o the_o minister_n and_o people_n of_o that_o church_n be_v enjoin_v to_o minister_v and_o partake_v of_o the_o holy_a thing_n of_o god_n have_v among_o they_o wherein_o be_v corruption_n not_o a_o few_o that_o be_v also_o observe_v and_o write_v against_o &c_n against_o the_o abridgement_n of_o the_o minister_n book_n of_o lincoln_n diocese_n the_o survey_n of_o the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n &c_n &c_n by_o divers_a of_o themselves_o beside_o the_o refusal_n opposition_n &_o persecution_n of_o the_o truth_n which_o have_v now_o a_o long_a time_n very_o often_o &_o many_o way_n benshew_v unto_o they_o etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o more_o special_o that_o the_o particular_a church_n &_o minister_n thereof_o stand_v not_o as_o the_o primitue_a church_n and_o pastor_n do_v immediate_o under_o jesus_n christ_n the_o archpastor_n as_o touch_v their_o ecclesiastical_a constitution_n but_o under_o another_o spiritual_a authority_n and_o prelacy_n devise_v by_o man_n neither_o have_v power_n in_o themselves_o as_o now_o they_o stand_v to_o receive_v and_o practice_v all_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n &_o to_o redress_v all_o error_n and_o corruption_n that_o be_v manifest_v unto_o they_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n as_o the_o pastor_n and_o church_n aforesaid_a have_v which_o thing_n stand_v thus_o hereby_o may_v appear_v that_o none_o can_v stand_v minister_n or_o member_n of_o the_o church_n aforesaid_a in_o their_o estate_n and_o perform_v the_o duty_n thereof_o according_a to_o the_o law_n and_o constitution_n thereof_o but_o they_o shall_v sin_n and_o transgress_v the_o second_o commandment_n which_o the_o lord_n that_o be_v a_o jealous_a god_n account_v to_o be_v hatred_n of_o he_o and_o have_v threaten_v severe_o to_o punish_v as_o on_o the_o contrary_n he_o have_v promise_v to_o show_v mercy_n gracious_o to_o they_o that_o love_v he_o and_o keep_v his_o commandment_n exod._n 20_o 4_o 5_o 6._o compare_v with_o lev._n 10_o 1_o 2._o deut._n 4_o 1_o 2._o 2_o king_n 10_o 18_o 31._o 2_o chron._n 19_o 2_o 3._o luke_n 19_o 27._o psal_n 119_o 126_o 127_o 128._o esa_n 29_o 13._o and_o 65_o 2._o mal._n 1_o 6_o 14._o mar._n 7_o 4_o 6_o 7._o etc._n etc._n col._n 2_o 20_o 23._o rev._n 14_o 9_o 12._o and_o 22_o 18_o 19_o four_o which_o come_v to_o a_o like_a end_n with_o the_o former_a reason_n but_o yet_o will_v make_v it_o more_o plain_a there_o be_v two_o thing_n concern_v the_o worship_n and_o service_n of_o god_n which_o we_o ought_v always_o careful_o to_o remember_v and_o observe_v one_o that_o we_o ought_v to_o leave_v and_o forsake_v all_o the_o invention_n of_o man_n and_o more_o special_o all_o the_o mixture_n and_o corruption_n of_o antichrist_n the_o man_n of_o sin_n in_o the_o service_n and_o worship_n of_o god_n and_o this_o not_o only_o in_o thing_n concern_v the_o faith_n but_o in_o such_o also_o as_o concern_v the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n exod._n 20_o 4_o 5._o with_o deut._n 12_o 32._o judg._n 8_o 27._o 1_o chro._n 13._o &_o 15_o 2._o etc._n etc._n 2_o chron._n 33_o 17._o psal_n 119_o 101_o 113_o 128._o esa_n 30_o 21_o 22._o ezech._n 43_o 8._o mal._n 1_o 6_o 14._o matt._n 15_o 9_o 13_o 14._o rom._n 16_o 17._o rev._n 14_o 9_o 12._o and_o 22_o 18_o 19_o the_o other_o be_v that_o we_o observe_v and_o practice_v all_o the_o commandment_n and_o ordinance_n of_o the_o lord_n which_o he_o have_v once_o for_o all_o give_v unto_o his_o church_n whether_o concern_v the_o faith_n or_o the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n and_o so_o consequent_o the_o church_n government_n worship_n ministry_n &_o ministration_n of_o all_o &_o every_o of_o the_o holy_a thing_n of_o god_n according_a to_o his_o word_n exod._n 20_o 6._o compare_v with_o deut._n 12_o 32._o matth._n 28_o 20._o gal._n 3_o 15._o judas_n v._n 3._o 1_o tim._n 6_o 13_o 14._o 2_o chron._n 13_o 8_o 12._o and_o 19_o 8_o 11._o psal_n 119_o 101_o 128._o esa_n 30_o 21._o and_o 33_o 22._o rev._n 14_o 12._o which_o two_o thing_n see_v that_o in_o the_o present_a estate_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n neither_o minister_n nor_o member_n can_v observe_v they_o nor_o be_v suffer_v peaceable_o so_o to_o walk_v how_o can_v it_o be_v but_o we_o must_v needs_o leave_v that_o estate_n unless_o we_o shall_v still_o continue_v in_o sin_n against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o how_o can_v that_o just_o be_v count_v schism_n which_o be_v our_o bind_a duty_n to_o the_o lord_n wherein_o we_o ought_v to_o obey_v god_n rather_o than_o man_n five_o to_o make_v the_o matter_n yet_o more_o plain_a let_v we_o put_v the_o case_n that_o some_o king_n and_o state_n will_v permit_v the_o church_n in_o their_o dominion_n peaceable_o to_o enjoy_v the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n and_o the_o baptism_n of_o elder_a people_n among_o they_o but_o not_o of_o child_n urge_v those_o word_n according_a to_o the_o letter_n make_v disciple_n
of_o god_n whole_o and_o only_o on_o the_o good_a pleasure_n of_o his_o will_n but_o upon_o the_o faith_n &_o holiness_n unbelief_n or_o wickedness_n of_o man_n foresee_v in_o the_o three_o by_o extend_v the_o redemption_n of_o christ_n further_a than_o the_o intendment_n of_o god_n yea_o even_o to_o the_o reprobate_n themselves_o in_o the_o four_o by_o ascribe_v our_o conversion_n and_o salvation_n in_o part_n to_o ourselves_o &_o our_o own_o free_a will_n &_o not_o whole_o and_o only_o to_o the_o free_a gift_n of_o god_n and_o powerful_a work_n of_o his_o grace_n in_o we_o in_o the_o first_o and_o last_o by_o debase_v in_o deed_n the_o unchangeable_a decree_n and_o firm_a promise_n of_o god_n the_o mighty_a power_n and_o faithful_a custody_n of_o christ_n our_o lord_n the_o comfortable_a presence_n assure_a pledge_n and_o gracious_a work_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o his_o saint_n and_o faithful_a people_n therefore_o such_o doctrine_n and_o opinion_n of_o they_o be_v erroneous_a and_o great_o disagree_v from_o the_o truth_n which_o be_v according_a to_o godliness_n let_v he_o that_o read_v consider_v and_o the_o lord_n give_v we_o aright_o to_o understand_v his_o word_n humble_o to_o obey_v his_o will_n and_o faithful_o to_o hold_v his_o truth_n unto_o the_o end_n amen_n now_o unto_o he_o that_o be_v able_a to_o keep_v we_o from_o fall_v and_o to_o present_v we_o faultless_a before_o the_o presence_n of_o his_o glory_n with_o exceed_a joy_n to_o the_o only_a wise_a god_n our_o saviour_n be_v glory_n and_o majesty_n dominion_n and_o power_n now_o and_o ever_o amen_n judas_n v._n 24.25_o the_o three_o treatise_n of_o some_o thing_n which_o concern_v the_o worship_n of_o god_n and_o order_n of_o the_o church_n especial_o concern_v the_o reform_a church_n have_v now_o brief_o treat_v of_o these_o point_n of_o religion_n which_o be_v call_v in_o question_n between_v the_o remonstrant_n and_o other_o of_o the_o reform_a church_n i_o will_v here_o also_o annexe_v some_o other_o thing_n concern_v the_o reform_a churches_n themselves_o which_o i_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o with_o who_o i_o agree_v both_o in_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n and_o in_o many_o thing_n concern_v the_o order_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o because_o there_o be_v some_o particular_n of_o weight_n touch_v the_o worship_n of_o god_n and_o policy_n of_o the_o church_n wherein_o i_o think_v they_o be_v not_o as_o yet_o come_v to_o the_o sincerity_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n constitution_n and_o be_o persuade_v that_o the_o lord_n be_v now_o bring_v his_o church_n and_o people_n thereunto_o from_o the_o apostasy_n and_o corruption_n of_o antichrist_n the_o man_n of_o sin_n and_o that_o he_o will_v in_o time_n accomplish_v this_o his_o work_n already_o begin_v whether_o before_o or_o together_o with_o the_o conversion_n of_o the_o jew_n to_o the_o christian_a faith_n the_o lord_n know_v and_o time_n will_v manifest_v therefore_o have_v i_o think_v it_o good_a herewithal_o to_o note_v some_o few_o thing_n thereabouts_o the_o particular_n be_v not_o all_o of_o they_o of_o like_a weight_n or_o evidence_n in_o my_o own_o persuasion_n but_o some_o of_o they_o such_o as_o far_o more_o may_v be_v say_v and_o bear_v with_o about_o they_o then_o about_o other_o of_o they_o neither_o do_v all_o of_o they_o concern_v all_o the_o reform_a church_n alike_o but_o some_o of_o they_o more_o and_o some_o less_o inasmuch_o as_o their_o estate_n in_o divers_a church_n and_o place_n do_v diverse_o differ_v hereabout_o yet_o notwithstanding_o i_o think_v it_o not_o amiss_o thus_o to_o propound_v they_o here_o together_o desire_v of_o all_o that_o they_o will_v serious_o consider_v these_o thing_n in_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n and_o according_a to_o his_o word_n &_o hope_v that_o the_o due_a consideration_n thereof_o will_v through_o the_o blessing_n of_o god_n become_v profitable_a for_o the_o furtherance_n of_o the_o truth_n and_o further_o build_v up_o of_o the_o church_n to_o the_o praise_n of_o his_o name_n in_o jesus_n christ_n chapter_n i._o touch_v book_n prayer_n whether_o it_o be_v the_o lord_n ordinance_n that_o his_o church_n &_o servant_n shall_v when_o they_o pray_v read_v their_o prayer_n out_o of_o a_o book_n even_o certain_a set_v word_n impose_v by_o man_n and_o so_o use_v a_o form_n and_o manner_n of_o prayer_n and_o leitourgie_n devise_v and_o prescribe_v by_o man_n for_o their_o spiritual_a sacrifice_n of_o prayer_n and_o worship_n of_o god_n and_o consequent_o whether_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o we_o in_o such_o manner_n to_o worship_v the_o lord_n exod._n 20_o 4_o 5_o 6._o and_o 30_o 9_o compare_v with_o psal_n 141_o 2._o esa_n 29_o 13._o with_o mat._n 15_o 9_o lev._n 10_o 1_o mal._n 1.8_o 14._o rom._n 8_o 26._o ephes_n 4_o 8_o 12._o 1_o pet._n 2_o 5._o rev._n 8_o 3_o etc._n etc._n i._o see_v that_o the_o book-prayer_n aforesaid_a be_v not_o appoint_v by_o the_o lord_n or_o approve_v in_o his_o word_n be_v a_o invention_n of_o man_n in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n and_o man_n invention_n in_o god_n worship_n be_v transgression_n of_o the_o second_o commandment_n exod._n 20_o 4_o 5._o with_o lev._n 10_o 1._o judg._n 8_o 27._o psa_fw-la 119_o 113_o 128._o esa_n 29_o 13._o and_o 30_o 21_o 22_o ii_o thus_o also_o it_o be_v as_o a_o image_n &_o similitude_n of_o spiritual_a prayer_n which_o yet_o it_o be_v not_o and_o so_o these_o book_n and_o stint_a prayer_n prescribe_v by_o man_n in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n come_v in_o deed_n to_o be_v idol_n supply_v the_o place_n of_o the_o word_n and_o spirit_n of_o god_n which_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v in_o which_o respect_n such_o manner_n of_o worship_n become_v idolatrous_a &_o superstitious_a forbid_v of_o the_o lord_n and_o not_o to_o be_v communicate_v withal_o for_o what_o agreement_n have_v the_o temple_n of_o god_n with_o idol_n 2_o cor._n 6.16_o exod._n 20_o 4_o 5_o 6._o compare_v with_o rom._n 8_o 26._o ephes_n 6_o 18._o 1_o pet._n 2_o 5._o and_o with_o the_o other_o scripture_n aforesaid_a and_o the_o like_a iii_o the_o incense_n offer_v by_o the_o priest_n upon_o the_o golden_a altar_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o law_n be_v a_o type_n of_o prayer_n offer_v up_o unto_o god_n by_o the_o mediation_n of_o christ_n psal_n 141_o 2._o rev._n 8_o 3_o 4._o and_o therefore_o as_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o use_v any_o strange_a incense_n but_o that_o only_a which_o god_n appoint_v so_o neither_o be_v it_o lawful_a to_o use_v any_o strange_a manner_n of_o prayer_n but_o such_o only_a as_o the_o lord_n require_v exod._n 30_o 9_o with_o psal_n 141_o 2._o now_o that_o the_o lord_n do_v ever_o ordain_v in_o his_o worship_n the_o book-prayer_n aforesaid_a who_o can_v show_v yea_o or_o that_o any_o of_o the_o godly_a either_o the_o patriarch_n prophet_n apostle_n or_o other_o man_n or_o woman_n record_v in_o the_o scripture_n when_o they_o will_v pray_v unto_o god_n do_v ever_o take_v a_o book_n 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2._o aquin._n in_o rom._n 10_o lect_n 1._o same_o person_n testify_v because_o it_o be_v not_o order_v by_o a_o right_a knowledge_n rain_n de_fw-fr rom._n eccles_n idolat_a contra_fw-la bellarminum_fw-la lib._n 1_o cap._n 5._o sect_n 9_o x._o if_o such_o book_n of_o prayer_n so_o use_v be_v the_o leitourgie_n and_o worship_n which_o the_o lord_n have_v appoint_v then_o ought_v all_o church_n and_o people_n on_o earth_n to_o use_v that_o service_n and_o manner_n of_o worship_n mat._n 28.20_o 1_o tim._n 6.13.14_o rev._n 22.18.19_o and_o who_o then_o shall_v make_v such_o book_n for_o all_o church_n and_o people_n in_o the_o world_n or_o who_o can_v show_v that_o the_o primitive_a church_n plant_v by_o the_o apostle_n &_o record_v in_o the_o scripture_n have_v any_o such_o book_n of_o prayer_n prescribe_v unto_o they_o or_o that_o the_o christian_n in_o that_o age_n do_v read_v their_o prayer_n out_o of_o such_o book_n and_o so_o worship_n god_n find_v we_o not_o mention_v of_o their_o 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also_o to_o the_o writing_n of_o other_o heretofore_o concern_v the_o same_o argument_n for_o which_o see_v m._n greenwood_n treatise_n of_o read_v prayer_n etc._n etc._n beside_o the_o handle_n of_o this_o question_n in_o two_o epistle_n between_v m._n carp_n &_o myself_o p._n 11_o 12_o etc._n etc._n chapter_n ii_o touch_v the_o constitution_n of_o particular_a church_n whither_o by_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n there_o shall_v be_v any_o set_v ordinary_a church_n now_o but_o only_o particular_a church_n and_o whether_o the_o constitution_n of_o all_o the_o particular_a church_n shall_v not_o be_v such_o as_o each_o of_o they_o may_v ordinary_o come_v together_o in_o one_o place_n for_o the_o performance_n of_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n and_o all_o other_o duty_n appertain_a unto_o they_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n i._o because_o the_o primitive_a church_n be_v thus_o plant_v and_o constitute_v by_o the_o apostle_n and_o this_o also_o approve_a and_o establish_v by_o christ_n our_o lord_n as_o may_v be_v see_v in_o the_o seven_o church_n of_o asia_n speak_v of_o in_o the_o revelation_n rev._n 1_o 4_o 12_o 13_o 20._o with_o ch_n 2_o 1_o 8_o 12_o 18._o &_o 3_o 1_o 7_o 14._o and_o in_o the_o other_o like_o church_n at_o jerusalem_n act._n 1_o 13_o 14_o 15._o and_o 6_o 2_o 5._o and_o 15_o 22_o 23._o and_o 21_o 18_o 22._o at_o lystra_n iconium_n and_o antioch_n act._n 14_o 21_o 23_o 27._o and_o 15_o 30._o at_o troas_n act._n 20_o 7_o 8._o at_o ephesus_n act._n 20_o 17_o 28._o rev._n 2_o 1._o with_o 1_o tim._n 1_o 3._o and_o 3_o 15._o and_o 5_o 20._o at_o rome_n rom._n 12_o 3_o 8._o at_o cenchrea_n rom._n 16_o 1._o at_o corinth_n 1_o cor._n 1_o 2._o and_o 4_o 17._o with_o chap._n 5_o 4._o and_o 10_o 16_o 17._o and_o 11_o 20_o 22_o 23._o and_o 12_o 18_o 19_o 27._o and_o 14_o 23_o 33_o 40._o in_o galatia_n gal._n 1_o 2._o at_o philippi_n phil._n 1_o 1._o at_o colosse_n and_o laodicea_n col._n 4_o 16_o 17._o at_o thessalonica_n 1_o thes_n 1_o 1._o with_o ch_z 5.12.13.14.27_o etc._n etc._n ii_o thus_o also_o the_o particular_a church_n of_o christian_n be_v still_o answerable_a in_o this_o behalf_n to_o the_o particular_a synagogue_n of_o the_o jew_n luke_n 4_o 16_o 20_o 31_o 33._o &_o 7_o 5._o act._n 13.14.15_o and_o 17.1_o and_o 18_o 4_o 7_o 8_o 27._o and_o as_o the_o house_n where_o the_o jew_n meet_v be_v call_v a_o synagogue_n luke_n 7_o 5._o so_o the_o apostle_n now_o also_o call_v the_o meeting_n of_o christian_n together_o a_o synagogue_n jam._n 2_o 2._o neither_o this_o only_a but_o see_v now_o every_o particular_a constitute_v church_n have_v right_a and_o power_n within_o itself_o to_o celebrate_v the_o lord_n supper_n which_o be_v answerable_a to_o the_o passeover_n that_o be_v keep_v at_o jerusalem_n this_o show_v moreover_o that_o now_o every_o particular_a church_n be_v to_o be_v esteem_v as_o jerusalem_n and_o so_o to_o stand_v immediate_o under_o jesus_n christ_n the_o archpastor_n of_o his_o sheep_n and_o the_o high_a priest_n of_o our_o profession_n 1_o cor._n 10_o 16_o 17_o 18._o and_o 11_o 23._o etc._n etc._n act._n 2_o 42._o and_o 20_o 7_o 17_o 28._o compare_v with_o deut._n 12_o 5_o 6_o 7_o 13_o 14._o and_o 16_o â—_o 5_o 6._o 2_o chron._n 29._o and_o 30._o and_o 35_o ch_z ezra_n 6_o 18_o 19_o esa_n 66_o 19_o 23._o jer._n 3_o 15_o 16_o 17._o rev._n 21_o 1_o 2._o etc._n etc._n iii_o neither_o else_n can_v the_o pastor_n of_o each_o particular_a church_n stand_v immediate_o under_o christ_n the_o archpastor_n nor_o can_v the_o minister_n and_o elder_n joint_o &_o together_o with_o their_o flock_n sanctify_v the_o lord_n day_n nor_o feed_v the_o church_n over_o which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v make_v they_o overseer_n nor_o perform_v any_o other_o public_a action_n with_o they_o unto_o they_o &_o before_o they_o due_o and_o orderly_o whether_o it_o be_v the_o ministration_n of_o the_o word_n or_o of_o the_o sacrament_n or_o censure_n or_o any_o action_n that_o be_v public_o &_o joint_o together_o to_o be_v perform_v according_a as_o be_v do_v in_o the_o synagogue_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n for_o which_o see_v the_o scripture_n here_o before_o allege_v and_o other_o the_o like_a as_o mark_v 13_o 34_o 37._o luke_n 4.16_o 20._o &_o 12_o 42._o act._n 20._o â—_o 28._o rom._n 12.4_o 8._o 1_o cor._n 4.1_o and_o 14.23.33_o 40._o col._n 4.17_o 1_o pet._n 5.1_o 4._o 1_o tim._n 5.17.20_o heb._n 13.7.8.17_o four_o nor_o can_v they_o well_o otherwise_o know_v of_o certainty_n whether_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n be_v present_a or_o absent_a at_o their_o public_a meeting_n for_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n or_o other_o duty_n there_o to_o be_v perform_v
ransom_n for_o all_o our_o sin_n rhem._n annot._n â—_o tim._n 2_o 5._o and_o 1_o joh._n 2_o 2._o etc._n etc._n they_o profess_v also_o the_o article_n of_o the_o chriâ—â—â—â—â—_n faith_n contain_v in_o the_o apostle_n creed_n as_o it_o be_v common_o call_v &_o 〈◊〉_d the_o nicene_n and_o athanasius_n creed_n as_o appear_v also_o in_o the_o rheims_n testament_n 〈◊〉_d their_o note_n at_o the_o end_n of_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o in_o their_o service_n book_n etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d profess_v this_o faith_n they_o baptize_v with_o water_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n the_o son_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o christ_n command_v his_o disciple_n to_o do_v matth._n 28_o 16_o 19_o with_o act_n 8_o 36_o 37._o therefore_o the_o baptism_n receive_v among_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v renounce_v etc._n etc._n vii_o and_o who_o can_v deny_v with_o any_o warrant_n from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n the_o jew_n and_o pagan_n who_o they_o bring_v to_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n aforesaid_a and_o baptize_v into_o his_o name_n who_o can_v i_o say_v with_o any_o good_a reason_n deny_v these_o now_o to_o be_v christian_n or_o not_o to_o have_v the_o lord_n ordinance_n of_o baptism_n which_o be_v still_o to_o be_v retain_v and_o not_o a_o new_a to_o be_v get_v or_o repeat_v again_o like_a as_o the_o stranger_n and_o proselyte_n of_o the_o gentile_n that_o come_v to_o the_o faith_n of_o israel_n in_o the_o time_n of_o their_o apostasy_n and_o so_o be_v circumcise_v retain_v still_o their_o circumcision_n &_o be_v receive_v in_o judah_n to_o eat_v of_o the_o passeover_n together_o with_o the_o israelite_n themselves_o whereof_o none_o may_v eat_v that_o be_v uncircumcised_a 2_o chron._n 30_o 1_o 11_o 25._o with_o exod._n 12_o 48_o 49._o viii_o the_o scripture_n also_o teach_v that_o god_n have_v chap._n have_v rev._n 18_o 4._o 〈◊〉_d 2_o 2._o and_o 3_o 1._o and_o 4_o 1_o 2_o 12_o 15_o 16_o 17._o mich._n 1_o 1_o 5_o 13._o etc._n etc._n jer._n 2_o 2_o etc._n etc._n eâ—â—â—â—_n 16_o 2_o 60._o and_o 20_o 4_o 44._o and_o 22_o and_o 23_o chap._n his_o people_n in_o the_o romish_a babylon_n under_o his_o covenant_n of_o grace_n and_o when_o he_o call_v they_o out_o from_o thence_o require_v of_o they_o not_o to_o be_v partaker_n of_o their_o sin_n but_o require_v not_o to_o leave_v whatsoever_o be_v have_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n but_o as_o the_o †_o prophet_n teach_v &_o deal_v with_o israel_n of_o old_a the_o child_n of_o that_o church_n shall_v plead_v with_o their_o mother_n that_o she_o take_v away_o her_o fornication_n out_o of_o her_o sight_n and_o her_o adultery_n from_o between_o her_o breast_n now_o 19_o now_o matt._n 28_o 19_o baptism_n be_v not_o of_o her_o adultery_n but_o of_o christ_n ordinance_n it_o be_v not_o a_o threshold_n or_o post_n which_o antichrist_n have_v bring_v into_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n but_o be_v set_v therein_o chap._n therein_o rom._n 6_o 3_o â—â—â—h_v 2_o thes_n 2_o 3_o 4._o and_o rev._n 11_o chap._n of_o old_a by_o the_o lord_n himself_o neither_o may_v we_o plead_v with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o take_v it_o away_o but_o that_o she_o put_v away_o the_o fornication_n &_o corruption_n that_o be_v of_o she_o own_o addition_n which_o be_v the_o very_a thing_n etc._n thing_n ezech._n 43_o 7_o 8_o 9_o and_o 16_o chap._n judg._n 2_o 〈◊〉_d psal_n 106_o 35_o 39_o esa_n 8_o 11_o etc._n etc._n amos_n 5_o 4_o 5_o 6_o 14_o 15._o with_o rev._n 8_o &_o 9_o 〈◊〉_d &_o 13_o 6_o 17_o &_o 14_o chap._n etc._n etc._n that_o cause_v the_o abomination_n of_o her_o estate_n and_o which_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o leave_v &_o put_v away_o and_o not_o all_o whatsoever_o be_v have_v in_o such_o apostatical_a church_n ix_o else_o by_o such_o like_a reason_n as_o the_o baptism_n be_v renounce_v which_o be_v the_o receive_v man_n may_v also_o urge_v as_o some_o have_v do_v not_o to_o retain_v useâ—_n regard_n as_o we_o shall_v the_o article_n of_o faith_n the_o learning_n of_o the_o scriptureâ—_n the_o translation_n thereof_o have_v and_o acknowledge_v in_o those_o church_n â—â—ld_v 〈◊〉_d likewise_o may_v persuade_v to_o the_o dissolution_n of_o such_o marriage_n as_o have_v bâ—â—_n have_v by_o their_o ministry_n with_o other_o as_o strange_a consequence_n that_o by_o 〈◊〉_d manner_n of_o reason_v will_v be_v infer_v thereupon_o which_o to_o admit_v 〈◊〉_d be_v contrary_a to_o deut._n 5_o 32_o 33._o and_o 31_o 9_o 13._o prov._n 4_o 25_o 26_o 27._o and_o 23_o 2_o chro._n 29_o and_o 30_o chap._n esa_n 8_o 19_o 20._o and_o 34_o 16._o luk._n 16_o 29._o joh._n 5_o 39_o act._n 15._o and_o 15_o 21._o and_o 17_o 2_o 3_o 11._o rom._n 15_o 4._o &_o 16_o 17._o 1_o cor._n 4_o 6._o 1_o thess_n 5_o 21._o 2_o tâ—â—_n 3_o 14_o 17._o heb._n 13_o 4_o 9_o rev._n 1_o 3._o 2_o pet._n 3_o 17_o 18._o objection_n i._n but_o 75._o but_o the_o anabaptist_n m._n a._n &c_n &c_n animad_fw-la p._n 68_o 72_o 71_o 75._o the_o baptism_n have_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o true_a baptism_n 〈◊〉_d a_o idol_n and_o lie_a sign_n a_o detestable_a and_o curse_a sacrament_n a_o fiction_n &_o 〈◊〉_d true_a christian_a baptism_n cl._n baptism_n m._n cl._n no_o better_o then_o when_o we_o wash_v our_o own_o face_n wiâ—â—_n water_n daily_o of_o which_o sort_n also_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n 〈◊〉_d and_o circumcision_n that_o be_v keep_v in_o the_o apostasy_n of_o israel_n heretofore_o answer_n assertion_n notable_o erroneous_a if_o not_o indeed_o heretical_a and_o blasphemous_a and_o such_o as_o be_v not_o peculiar_a to_o the_o anabaptist_n alone_o but_o be_v soâ—â—_n of_o they_o affirm_v and_o some_o of_o they_o also_o publish_v by_o other_o some_o saâ—ing_v one_o thing_n some_o another_o some_o speak_n of_o one_o church_n some_o of_o anâ—ther_n some_o to_o one_o purpose_n some_o to_o another_o sometime_o more_o plain_o direct_o sometime_o with_o shift_n &_o pretence_n more_o deceive_v the_o simplâ—_n and_o betray_v their_o own_o iniquity_n which_o be_v the_o more_o lamentable_a 〈◊〉_d as_o much_o as_o these_o be_v main_a ground_n of_o anabaptistry_n they_o shouâ—â—_n therefore_o be_v convince_v and_o resist_v not_o colour_v or_o plead_v for_o by_o as_o mean_n for_o if_o the_o former_a assertion_n be_v true_a then_o will_v it_o necessary_a follow_v that_o the_o baptism_n receive_v in_o the_o church_n aforesaid_a be_v not_o 〈◊〉_d ordinance_n of_o god_n not_o to_o be_v retain_v but_o utter_o to_o be_v reject_v &_o 〈◊〉_d baptism_n to_o be_v receive_v both_o for_o obedience_n of_o the_o commandment_n 〈◊〉_d god_n and_o for_o our_o own_o comfort_n reason_n show_v that_o if_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n &_o england_n be_v a_o idol_n and_o lie_a sign_n etc._n etc._n then_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v renounce_v and_o another_o to_o be_v receyve_v i._o because_o idol_n and_o lie_a sign_n and_o fiction_n be_v not_o of_o god_n but_o the_o devil_n who_o be_v a_o liar_n and_o a_o father_n thereof_o joh._n 8_o 44._o rom._n 3_o 4._o ii_o neither_o can_n a_o idol_n and_o lie_a sign_n or_o such_o a_o baptism_n as_o be_v more_o than_o a_o daily_a wash_n of_o our_o own_o face_n be_v the_o sign_n and_o sealeâ—_n god_n true_a and_o everlasting_a covenant_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n and_o â—â—ashing_v away_o of_o our_o sin_n in_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n 2_o cor._n 6_o 14_o 15_o 16._o â—â—_o 2_o 18._o 1_o cor._n 8_o 4._o with_o rom._n 4_o 11._o and_o 6_o 3_o 4._o iii_o the_o sign_n in_o a_o sacrament_n also_o be_v that_o which_o be_v outward_a &_o visible_a 〈◊〉_d â—h_a in_o baptism_n be_v the_o wash_n with_o water_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n 〈◊〉_d if_o this_o be_v a_o fiction_n and_o lie_a sign_n in_o the_o church_n aforesaid_a then_o be_v not_o the_o lord_n and_o they_o which_o be_v there_o baptize_v have_v not_o then_o the_o outward_a visible_a sign_n which_o the_o lord_n have_v ordain_v to_o be_v have_v of_o his_o people_n and_o therefore_o be_v bind_v to_o get_v it_o unto_o they_o where_o it_o may_v be_v â—ad_v rom._n 4_o 11._o and_o 6_o 3_o 4._o act._n 10_o 47_o 48._o matt._n 3_o 11._o and_o 28_o 18_o 19_o with_o gen._n 1â—_n 11_o 12_o 13._o and_o 21_o 4._o iu._n and_o that_o also_o be_v to_o be_v do_v without_o delay_n and_o before_o they_o may_v come_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n see_v the_o neglect_n of_o baptism_n be_v sin_n as_o be_v the_o neglect_n of_o circumcision_n and_o no_o unbaptised_a person_n may_v eat_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n as_o no_o uncircumcised_a person_n may_v eat_v of_o the_o passover_n ephes_n 4_o 4_o 5._o and_o luke_n 7_o 29_o 30._o with_o 1_o cor._n 10_o 16_o 17_o 18._o exo._n 4_o 24_o
and_o in_o israel_n neh._n 13_o 15_o 22._o jer._n 17_o 21_o 27._o amo._n 8_o 5._o 11._o and_o whereas_o they_o say_v that_o circumcision_n be_v also_o a_o lie_a sign_n and_o false_a sacrament_n to_o israel_n in_o their_o defection_n how_o do_v they_o prove_v it_o where_o do_v the_o scripture_n teach_v it_o will_v they_o have_v we_o take_v it_o on_o their_o bare_a word_n and_o believe_v that_o their_o say_n be_v oracle_n or_o will_v they_o be_v wise_a and_o more_o righteous_a than_o god_n himself_o 25._o himself_o 2_o kin._n 9_o 6._o &_o 13_o 22_o 23._o hos_fw-la 4_o 6_o 12._o &_o 14_o 1._o amos_n 7_o 2_o 5_o 15._o mic._n 6_o 2_o 3_o etc._n etc._n with_o lev._n 26_o 25._o who_o account_v they_o still_o to_o be_v his_o people_n and_o under_o his_o covenant_n and_o himself_o to_o be_v their_o god_n and_o upon_o this_o ground_n call_v they_o to_o repentance_n and_o show_v they_o many_o favour_n and_o bare_a with_o they_o a_o long_a time_n and_o afterward_o avenge_v the_o quarrel_n of_o his_o covenant_n upon_o they_o as_o he_o have_v speak_v long_o before_o the_o history_n of_o the_o scripture_n &_o book_n of_o the_o prophet_n make_v this_o matter_n so_o plain_a as_o there_o be_v scant_o any_o chapter_n at_o all_o that_o do_v not_o manifest_v these_o thing_n and_o convince_v their_o error_n some_o particular_n i_o have_v show_v heretofore_o 63._o heretofore_o advert_v p._n 59_o 63._o otherwhere_o and_o shall_v now_o treat_v of_o it_o further_o hereafter_o in_o answer_n of_o another_o objection_n here_o follow_a thereabouts_o 12._o in_o the_o mean_a time_n what_o will_v they_o say_v to_o the_o circumcision_n of_o judah_n in_o their_o estate_n of_o apostasy_n when_o they_o fall_v into_o most_o wicked_a idolatry_n and_o that_o not_o only_o of_o israel_n but_o even_o of_o the_o heathen_n beside_o all_o that_o they_o have_v of_o their_o own_o most_o sinful_o withal_o be_v circumcision_n now_o also_o among_o they_o none_o of_o god_n ordinance_n but_o a_o idol_n be_v it_o not_o the_o true_a sacrament_n of_o circumcision_n but_o a_o false_a and_o lie_a sign_n a_o detestable_a &_o curse_a sacrament_n unto_o they_o in_o that_o estate_n be_v not_o they_o now_o still_o the_o people_n of_o god_n or_o have_v god_n break_v his_o covenant_n with_o they_o on_o his_o part_n &_o turn_v his_o ordinance_n into_o idol_n unto_o they_o because_o of_o their_o idolatry_n and_o transgression_n of_o his_o covenant_n be_v not_o god_n still_o true_a and_o his_o sign_n and_o sacrament_n true_a sign_n and_o sacrament_n still_o unto_o they_o on_o the_o lord_n behalf_n though_o they_o be_v become_v liar_n and_o idolater_n themselves_o do_v god_n cease_v to_o be_v true_a if_o man_n become_v a_o liar_n god_n forbid_v rom._n 3_o 3_o 4._o 13._o or_o have_v the_o gate_n of_o hell_n more_o prevayl_v against_o the_o christian_a church_n since_o christ_n come_n than_o they_o do_v or_o can_v against_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n before_o his_o come_n in_o the_o flesh_n mat._n 16_o 18._o do_v not_o god_n when_o once_o he_o have_v give_v his_o sign_n of_o circumcision_n so_o continue_v it_o still_o through_o all_o generation_n until_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n notwithstanding_o all_o the_o apostasy_n both_o of_o judah_n and_o israel_n that_o then_o fall_v out_o sundry_a time_n and_o have_v not_o the_o lord_n do_v likewise_o hitherto_o and_o will_v so_o do_v unto_o the_o end_n concern_v the_o sign_n of_o baptism_n in_o the_o christian_a church_n notwithstanding_o the_o apostasy_n and_o iniquity_n fall_v out_o therein_o if_o not_o how_o then_o also_o and_o where_o have_v the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n ben_fw-mi continue_v and_o derive_v unto_o these_o man_n themselves_o from_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n unto_o this_o day_n as_o i_o note_v here_o before_o also_o to_o be_v observe_v or_o be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o baptism_n in_o one_o and_o the_o same_o church_n a_o idol_n and_o lie_a sign_n unto_o some_o and_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n &_o a_o true_a sign_n unto_o other_o that_o do_v there_o receive_v it_o and_o this_o also_o in_o their_o infancy_n or_o when_o they_o come_v to_o year_n can_v they_o make_v that_o which_o be_v a_o idol_n and_o a_o lie_a sign_n which_o be_v mere_a vanity_n and_o of_o the_o devil_n now_o to_o be_v unto_o they_o the_o holy_a ordinance_n &_o true_a sign_n of_o the_o lord_n which_o he_o have_v give_v and_o institute_v in_o his_o church_n either_o therefore_o it_o must_v be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v god_n ordinance_n and_o his_o true_a sign_n though_o corrupt_o minister_v and_o abuse_v or_o if_o it_o be_v a_o idol_n &_o lie_a sign_n it_o be_v to_o be_v reject_v &_o another_o baptism_n to_o be_v obtain_v that_o be_v appoint_v and_o approve_v of_o the_o lord_n halt_a between_n two_o opinion_n please_v not_o god_n if_o it_o be_v a_o idol_n and_o lie_a sign_n it_o be_v not_o the_o lord_n and_o if_o it_o be_v the_o lord_n as_o we_o have_v show_v it_o to_o be_v than_o it_o be_v no_o idol_n or_o lie_a sign_n but_o god_n ordinance_n and_o true_a sign_n still_o continue_v in_o their_o corrupt_a estate_n and_o ministration_n 14._o neither_o do_v this_o hinder_a but_o that_o in_o any_o church_n whether_o sincere_a or_o apostate_n yea_o in_o the_o best_a that_o be_v or_o ever_o be_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n may_v become_v unprofitable_a unto_o man_n by_o their_o own_o sin_n circumcision_n may_v be_v make_v uncircumcision_n to_o such_o as_o break_v the_o law_n that_o be_v it_o may_v become_v unprofitable_a and_o be_v account_v for_o uncircumcision_n unto_o they_o rom._n 2_o 25_o 26._o and_o baptism_n therefore_o in_o like_a sort_n be_v now_o come_v in_o the_o place_n thereof_o but_o shall_v we_o therefore_o say_v that_o circumcision_n or_o baptism_n or_o any_o other_o constitution_n of_o god_n in_o such_o church_n unto_o such_o person_n be_v not_o the_o lord_n ordinance_n nor_o his_o true_a sign_n and_o sacrament_n but_o idol_n and_o lie_a sign_n detestable_a and_o accurse_a sacrament_n and_o constitution_n take_v a_o other_o instance_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v the_o lord_n table_n in_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n a_o table_n of_o devil_n or_o the_o lord_n supper_n a_o idol_n and_o a_o lie_a sign_n and_o detestable_a sacrament_n to_o such_o as_o eat_v it_o unworthy_o or_o be_v it_o not_o in_o deed_n the_o lord_n ordinance_n &_o his_o holy_a sacrament_n unto_o they_o though_o sinful_o abuse_v by_o they_o as_o be_v manifest_a both_o by_o the_o apostle_n word_n when_o he_o call_v it_o the_o not_o discern_v of_o the_o lord_n body_n but_o become_v guilty_a of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o the_o lord_n &_o by_o the_o lord_n severe_a chastise_v of_o they_o for_o this_o cause_n 1_o cor._n 11_o 27_o 30._o which_o how_o shall_v it_o be_v if_o it_o be_v not_o the_o lord_n ordinance_n unto_o they_o which_o he_o have_v give_v to_o his_o church_n &_o people_n do_v the_o scripture_n so_o speak_v of_o idol_n and_o lie_a sign_n any_o where_o or_o do_v the_o lord_n so_o punish_v the_o neglect_n or_o contempt_n of_o they_o nay_o on_o the_o contrary_a the_o lord_n severe_o punish_v the_o regard_n and_o retain_v of_o idol_n &_o the_o scripture_n speak_v of_o they_o term_v and_o esteem_v they_o to_o be_v 14._o be_v see_v m._n aâ—nsw_n arrow_n against_o idolatry_n pag._n 13_o &_o 14._o thing_n of_o naught_o as_o it_o be_v filth_n dung_n or_o excrement_n loathsome_a thing_n or_o detestable_a and_o abomination_n vanity_n lie_n unprofitable_a false-vanity_n leasing_n and_o vaine-iniquitie_n etc._n etc._n so_o far_o be_v the_o scripture_n from_o speak_v or_o esteem_v so_o honourable_o of_o they_o as_o it_o do_v of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o ordinance_n of_o the_o lord_n though_o sinful_o corrupt_v and_o abuse_v objection_n iii_o but_o etc._n but_o animad_fw-la p._n 72_o etc._n etc._n idol_n be_v of_o two_o sort_n some_o mere_o devise_v by_o man_n as_o jeroboams_n 28._o jeroboams_n 1_o king_n 12_o 28._o calf_n some_o pervert_v by_o man_n from_o holy_a sign_n to_o idol_n as_o 4._o as_o 2_o king_n 18_o 4._o the_o brazen_a serpent_n both_o these_o kind_n be_v in_o popish_a baptism_n for_o their_o cross_n exorcism_n greasing_n etc._n etc._n be_v idol_n of_o the_o first_o sort_n worse_o than_o jeroboams_n bullock_n their_o wash_n with_o water_n in_o nomine_fw-la patris_fw-la etc._n etc._n be_v of_o the_o second_o sort_n that_o be_v god_n ordinance_n turn_v into_o a_o idol_n as_o be_v the_o brazen_a serpent_n thus_o be_v there_o a_o mixture_n in_o antichrist_n christening_n of_o both_o sort_n of_o abomination_n therefore_o have_v we_o renounce_v that_o romish_a baptism_n as_o a_o impure_a idol_n in_o their_o abuse_n stand_v up_o in_o the_o place_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o precious_a blood_n which_o it_o be_v not_o pretend_v
30._o and_o 34._o and_o 36_o ch_z 2_o king_n 23_o ch_n and_o consider_v herewithal_o the_o la_o touch_v the_o proselyte_n exo._n 12_o â—8_o etc._n etc._n but_o on_o the_o other_o hand_n also_o for_o the_o better_a find_v out_o of_o the_o truth_n let_v we_o observe_v whether_o the_o child_n of_o those_o that_o be_v unclean_a in_o israel_n leper_n or_o other_o be_v not_o to_o be_v circumcise_v the_o eight_o day_n notwithstanding_o the_o parent_n uncleanness_n aswell_o as_o other_o child_n among_o they_o gen._n 17_o 12_o 14._o lev._n 12_o 2_o 3._o joh._n 7_o 22_o 23._o with_o 2_o king_n 5_o 27._o 2_o chron._n 26_o 21._o lev._n 13_o 3._o and_o 15_o 2._o numb_a 5_o 2_o 3_o 4._o and_o 19_o 11._o deut._n 24_o 8_o 9_o and_o whether_o the_o fact_n of_o christ_n receive_v and_o bless_v the_o little_a child_n which_o be_v bring_v unto_o he_o that_o he_o may_v put_v his_o hand_n upon_o they_o and_o pray_v will_v not_o also_o warrant_v we_o to_o receive_v and_o baptise_v the_o little_a child_n of_o christian_n that_o be_v bring_v unto_o we_o to_o be_v baptize_v and_o to_o be_v pray_v for_o or_o bless_v special_o consider_v that_o christ_n be_v displease_v at_o his_o disciple_n who_o will_v have_v hinder_v it_o and_o say_v unto_o they_o suffer_v little_a child_n to_o come_v unto_o i_o and_o forbid_v they_o not_o for_o of_o such_o be_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n where_o that_o special_a reason_n allege_v by_o christ_n and_o ground_n whereupon_o he_o do_v it_o be_v in_o like_a sort_n well_o to_o be_v observe_v mat._n 19_o 13_o 14_o 15._o mar._n 10_o 13_o 16._o luke_n 18_o 15_o 16._o of_o which_o also_o upon_o other_o occasion_n i_o have_v speak_v here_o before_o in_o the_o first_o treatise_n chap._n 1._o pag._n 22_o 23._o chapter_n x._o touch_v the_o manner_n of_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n also_o touch_v the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n and_o kneel_v at_o the_o lord_n supper_n etc._n etc._n whether_o the_o sacrament_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v administer_v and_o receive_v according_a to_o the_o simplicity_n of_o the_o gospel_n without_o any_o vain_a invention_n of_o man_n or_o corrupt_a abuse_n thereabouts_o exod._n 20_o 4_o 5_o 6._o with_o mat._n 28_o 18_o 19_o 20._o and_o 1_o cor._n 11_o 23_o 26._o 2_o cor._n 11_o 3._o lev._n 10_o 1._o esa_n 1_o 12._o heb._n 12_o 25_o 26_o 29._o gal._n 3_o 15._o col._n 2_o 23._o 2_o tim._n 3_o 16_o 17._o rev._n 22_o 18_o 19_o 1._o because_o else_o there_o be_v transgression_n of_o the_o commandment_n and_o ordinance_n of_o god_n exod._n 20_o 4_o 5_o 6._o with_o mat._n 28_o 19_o 20._o and_o 1_o cor._n 11_o 23_o 24_o 25._o 2._o and_o the_o lord_n be_v thereby_o provoke_v to_o wrath_n and_o stir_v up_o to_o punish_v such_o transgression_n exod._n 20_o 5._o with_o 1_o cor._n 11_o 20_o 30._o lev._n 10_o 1_o 2_o 3._o 1_o chr._n 13_o 9_o 10._o psal_n 119_o 21_o 101_o 113.128_o ezech._n 23_o 41_o 49._o and_o 43_o 7_o 8._o mal._n 2_o 1_o 9_o 3._o the_o people_n of_o god_n be_v bind_v in_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n aswell_o as_o in_o other_o duty_n of_o the_o service_n of_o god_n to_o worship_v 〈◊〉_d only_o according_a as_o himself_o have_v prescribe_v in_o his_o word_n 98._o lincol._n minister_n abrid_n excep_v 2._o arg_n 2._o survey_v of_o the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n qu._n 99_o p._n 97._o 98._o and_o therefore_o to_o renounce_v and_o forsake_v all_o superstition_n and_o idolatrous_a invention_n of_o man_n in_o god_n worship_n all_o humane_a ceremony_n of_o mystical_a signification_n all_o part_n and_o parcel_n of_o the_o beast_n mark_v whatsoever_o and_o careful_o to_o keep_v the_o commandment_n of_o god_n and_o faith_n of_o jesus_n christ_n exo._n 20_o 4_o 5_o 6._o with_o rev._n 14_o 9_o 12._o and_o 18_o 4._o and_o 22_o 18_o 19_o 2_o cor._n 6_o 17._o ephes_n 5_o 11._o esa_n 30_o 22._o psal_n 119_o 101_o 113_o 128._o mat._n 15_o 7_o 8_o 9_o 4._o thus_o shall_v we_o also_o follow_v the_o example_n of_o the_o godly_a and_o faithful_a servant_n of_o god_n that_o have_v be_v before_o we_o 1_o cor._n 4_o 1_o 2._o and_o 11_o 1_o 2_o 23._o gal._n 1._o 10_o 11_o 12._o num._n 9_o 1_o 5._o exod._n 39_o 43._o with_o heb._n 3.1.2_o joh._n 12.49.50_o luke_n 1.5.6_o 8.9_o 1_o tim._n 6.13.14_o 2_o pet._n 1.16_o etc._n etc._n 5._o else_o it_o shall_v argue_v the_o scripture_n to_o be_v insufficient_a for_o direct_v the_o church_n in_o the_o use_n and_o ministration_n of_o the_o holy_a thing_n of_o god_n contrary_a to_o 2_o tim._n 3.16.17_o 1_o cor._n 4.1.2_o 1_o tim._n 3.15_o and_o 6.3.13.14_o with_o exod._n 20.4.5.6_o 6._o final_o what_o end_n else_o will_v there_o be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o man_n precept_n new_a administration_n strange_a worship_n voluntary_a religion_n antichristian_a apostasy_n etc._n etc._n esa_n 29.13_o mat._n 15.9_o col._n 2.8.18.22.23_o 2_o thes_n 2.3.4_o with_o num._n 15_o 38_o 39_o 40._o deut._n 4_o 2._o and_o 12.32_o hereby_o then_o may_v appear_v how_o corrupt_a the_o use_n be_v of_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n of_o kneel_v and_o uncover_v the_o head_n at_o the_o lord_n supper_n in_o the_o act_n of_o receive_v of_o read_v prayer_n out_o of_o a_o book_n at_o the_o ministration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o the_o like_a thing_n which_o the_o scripture_n prescribe_v not_o but_o man_n have_v take_v up_o of_o themselves_o thus_o break_v the_o second_o commandment_n and_o join_v their_o post_n and_o threshold_n with_o the_o lord_n exod._n 20_o 4_o 5_o 6._o with_o lev._n 10.1_o deu._n 12_o 32._o psal_n 119.128_o 2_o king_n 16.10.11_o 16._o ezech._n 43_o 7_o 8._o mar._n 7_o 3_o 9_o col._n 2.18.22.23_o beside_o that_o thus_o man_n be_v draw_v from_o the_o simplicity_n and_o sincerity_n of_o the_o practice_n use_v by_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n who_o sit_v when_o they_o eat_v and_o drink_v and_o do_v not_o then_o uncover_v their_o head_n any_o more_o than_o before_o neither_o make_v a_o cross_n when_o they_o baptize_v nor_o read_v their_o prayer_n out_o of_o book_n etc._n etc._n mat._n 26_o 20._o etc._n etc._n and_o 28_o 18.19.20_o with_o 1_o cor._n 10_o 16_o 17_o 18._o and_o 11_o 23._o etc._n etc._n and_o final_o that_o these_o be_v part_n of_o the_o relic_n &_o monument_n yet_o remain_v of_o the_o apostasy_n of_o antichrist_n the_o man_n of_o sin_n which_o therefore_o ought_v to_o be_v refuse_v and_o witness_v against_o by_o word_n and_o deed_n 2_o thes_n 2_o 3_o 4._o whereof_o i_o need_v not_o write_v more_o particular_o but_o only_o leave_v the_o reader_n to_o apply_v the_o former_a reason_n and_o the_o like_a to_o these_o and_o other_o such_o corruption_n yet_o retain_v among_o they_o concern_v which_o they_o that_o will_v see_v more_o may_v read_v the_o treatise_n that_o have_v be_v heretofore_o purposely_o write_v hereabout_o namely_o m._n parker_n scholastical_a discourse_n against_o symbolise_v with_o antichrist_n in_o ceremony_n especial_o in_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n where_o in_o ten_o several_a chapter_n he_o treat_v of_o the_o breach_n of_o all_o the_o ten_o commandment_n thereby_o also_o a_o little_a treatise_n touch_v kneel_v at_o the_o lord_n supper_n in_o the_o act_n of_o receive_v moreover_o the_o trial_n of_o subscription_n and_o the_o lincoln_n minister_n abridgement_n of_o the_o reason_n why_o they_o refuse_v subscription_n and_o conformity_n the_o survey_n of_o the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n and_o m._n greenwood_n and_o other_o treatise_n of_o book-prayer_n about_o which_o also_o see_v here_o before_o chap._n 1._o pag._n 245._o etc._n etc._n chapter_n xi_o of_o the_o dispose_n blessing_n break_v distribute_v of_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n whether_o we_o shall_v not_o at_o the_o celebration_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n set_v the_o bread_n and_o cup_n upon_o a_o table_n &_o so_o with_o thanksgiving_n first_o bless_v the_o bread_n and_o then_o break_v it_o in_o the_o sight_n of_o the_o church_n and_o so_o distribute_v it_o be_v break_v and_o then_o after_o the_o distribution_n thereof_o to_o all_o the_o communicant_n to_o take_v the_o cup_n also_o and_o to_o bless_v and_o distribute_v it_o in_o like_a sort_n 1_o cor._n 10.16.21_o and_o 11.20_o 34._o mat._n 26_o 26_o 27._o with_o lev._n 24.5_o 9_o ezech._n 44.15.16_o 1._o because_o at_o the_o first_o celebration_n and_o institution_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n this_o order_n be_v observe_v as_o we_o may_v see_v mat._n 26.26.27_o mark_n 14_o 22_o 23._o luke_n 22.19_o 20._o with_o mat._n 28_o 20._o and_o the_o same_o manner_n also_o keep_v by_o the_o apostle_n afterward_o as_o may_v be_v gather_v by_o that_o which_o be_v write_v 1_o cor._n 10_o 16_o 21._o and_o 11.23_o 26._o 2._o the_o break_n of_o the_o bread_n do_v not_o only_o serve_v for_o the_o