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A86599 An antidote against Hen. Haggar's poysonous pamphlet, entitled, The foundation of the font discovered: or, A reply wherein his audaciousness in perverting holy scriptures and humane writings is discovered, his sophistry in arguing against infant-baptism, discipleship, church membership &c. is detected, his contradictions demonstrated; his cavils agains M. Cook, M. Baxter, and M. Hall answered, his raylings rebuked, and his folly manifested. By Aylmar Houghton minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ, and teacher to the congregation of Prees, in the county of Salop. Houghton, Aylmer. 1658 (1658) Wing H2917; Thomason E961_1; ESTC R207689 240,876 351

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predecessor_n at_o munster_n show_v of_o what_o spirit_n you_o be_v 2._o gild_n of_o conscience_n make_v you_o fearful_a of_o punishment_n and_o uncharitable_o censorious_a of_o your_o better_n who_o without_o vanity_n may_v say_v 23.9_o say_v mat._n 23.9_o one_o be_v our_o father_n which_o be_v in_o heaven_n sect_n 41._o h._n h._n where_o as_o you_o say_v we_o disclaim_v reason_n i_o answer_v it_o be_v but_o one_o of_o your_o false_a accusation_n we_o own_o all_o thing_n write_v in_o the_o scripture_n etc._n etc._n reply_v 1_o you_o disclaim_v the_o plain_a and_o clear_a reason_n deduce_v out_o of_o scripture_n and_o so_o it_o be_v no_o false_a accusation_n 2._o if_o you_o do_v own_o all_o thing_n write_v in_o the_o scripture_n the_o controversy_n be_v at_o a_o end_n as_o you_o say_v p._n 45._o 3._o what_o perverseness_n and_o partiality_n be_v this_o that_o you_o can_v own_o woman_n discipleship_n and_o their_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n etc._n etc._n a●_n p._n 14._o as_o 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