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A96687	New-Englands salamander, discovered by an irreligious and scornefull pamphlet, called New-Englands Jonas cast up at London, &c. Owned by Major Iohn Childe, but not probable to be written by him. Or, A satisfactory answer to many aspersions cast upon New-England therein. Wherein our government there is shewed to bee legall and not arbitrary, being as neere the law of England as our condition will permit. Together with a briefe reply to what is written in answer to certaine passages in a late booke called Hypocrisie unmasked. / By Edw. Winslow.	Winslow, Edward, 1595-1655.	1647 (1647)	Wing W3038; Thomason E390_8; ESTC R201531	24,205	33

Indeed this I have said in answer to his cavils that if the Parliaments of England should impose Lawe● upon us having no Burgesses in their house of Commons not capable of a summons by reason of the vast distance of the Ocean being three thousand miles from London then wee should lose the libertie and freedome I conceived of English indeed where every Shire and Corporation by their Knights and Burgesses make and consent to their Laws and so oppose whatsoever they conceive may bee hurtfull to them But this liberty wee are not capable of by reason of distance and therefore c. And thus much for answer to that point which will satisfie any equall minded man but is nothing to him Thirdly he chargeth our Government to bee Arbitrary Answ I shewed before after what manner wee made our Lawes and for the choyce of our Officers once every yeere they are either chosen or renewed by election and this is done by the Freemen who are the Associates to the Governour to whom all the power is granted And these are to governe according to their Lawes made and established and not according to their wills And however there are many that are not free amongst us yet if understanding men and able to bee helpefull it 's more their owne faults then otherwise oft-times who will not take up their freedome lest they should bee sent on these service● as our Salamander and most of his Disciples who are too many I must confesse and yet it is the same with many thousands in this kingdome who have not libertie to choose nor yet may the Freeholders and Freemen choose any that are not Freeholders Freemen and Gentlemen of such a rank or quality that are chosen So that for my own part I see not but that as we go by the expresse of our Letters Patents so we goe according to the practise of England the Law made binding the Maker as wel as any other having o●●rule for all As for our trialls between man and man hee knowes wee goe by Jury there as well as here And in criminalls and capitalls wee goe by Grand Jury and Petty Jury And where the death of any is suddaine violent or uncertaine the ●rowner sits upon it by a Quest and returneth a verdict c. and all according to the commendable custome of England whom wee desire to follow But their maine objection is that wee have not p●nall Lawes exactly set downe in all cases 'T is true I confesse neither can they finde any Common we●●●● under heaven or ever was but some things were reserved to the discretion of the Judges and so it is with us and no otherwise our Generall Courts meeting together twice a yeere at least hitherto for that very end and so continuing so long as their occasions and the season will permit and in case any ●●sdemeaner befall where no penaltie is set down it is by solemne order left to the discretion of the B●nch who next to the word of God take the Law of England for their president before all other whatsoever And as I said before if I would enter into particulars I could here setdowne in a line parallel as I received it in answer to the Petition of Doctor Robert Childe c. mentioned in their booke the fundamentalls of the Massachusets concurring with the priviledges of Magn● C●●●●● and the common Law of England at large But as I said before it would bee too tedious for answer to this worthlesse and malicious charge And yet I dare affirme that Virgini● Barbadoes Christoph●rs Mevis and A●●i●g● have not all of them so many Lawes as New-England nor so many expresse penalties annexed As for the ●●●ting of the foure Colonies I briefly shewed the reason of it in my former Treatise being necessitated thereunto ●●y a secret Combination of the Indians to ●●● in all off as our Salamander well knowes and approved and if in America we should forbeare to unite for offence and defence against a ●…on enemy keeping our Governments still dist●●ct as wee d●● till wee have leave from England our throats might bee allout before the Messenger would bee halfe Seas thorough but hee that will c●rpe at this what will hee not doe And for not making of our Warrants in the Kings name which is another thing hee comp●●neth of Hee well knowes the practise of the Countrey is various in that respect some constantly observing it others omitting to expresse it but all deriving our authority from hence But if any wonder why I say so much in answer to it as I doe it is because I never purpose for reply to any thing he or any other shall write in this kinde to him for 't is to no end to write many bookes especially when wee have to deale with such an one as delights in contention and nothing else In the last place take notice good Reader how hee cavills and is vexed at rather then answers any thing I say tending to preserve peace and unitie betweene the Presbyterian and Independent Brethren And whereas hee saith there is fallacy in what I have written how can that bee when I shew the very particular instances and persons that did and still do hold communion with us and our Salamander knoweth most of these persons and I beleeve the very things also and hath nothing to say against any one of the instances brought onely hee asketh whether any of us the many thousands a great word that came from New-England doe communicate here with the Presbyterians To which I answer by way of question to any rationall and indifferent man whether a Church or Churches of ours allowing and admitting any of the Presbyterians or their members into full communion with them doth not more fully answer the question or his cavill and prove communion of Churches on our part then for a particular member of ours to joyne in communion with some of the Presbyterian Churches which it may bee that Independent Church whereof hee is may never heare of And sure enough if I should draw an Argument from his proposition to prove it hee would bee sure to say your Churches allow it not c. and therefore it proves no communion of Churches at all Secondly were I where I could not communicate with an Independent Congregation and might with a Presbyterian and they walked orderly I know nothing but I might comfortably partake in that Ordinance of the Lords Supper with them but I should not forsake that communion I more affected for that I lesse affected where I might enjoy either nor I beleeve will any understanding Presbyterian Brother on the other side And so much for answer to that cavill and the many branches of it In the second place hee cavills at this that I say in page 96. of my Book called Hypocrisie 〈…〉 That the French and D●tch Churches are a people distinct from the world and gathered into ●● holy communion And then hee addeth ●ee should ●●●● said C●●●n●●t

other of Gods people with any thing I shall doe and immediatly went to his Chest or Trunke and tooke out a paper and gave it her and referred it to the discretion of others to doe withall as they should see good which the woman not in a distracted passion as they reported shewed to Mr. Richard Sadler and others who although they knew it was not the right Petition but that they were deluded yet because they judged it also to bee very bad having often seene it in New-England but never liked the same cut it in peeces as they thought it deserved and gave the said peeces to a Seaman who cast them into the Sea The storme for the present continued that night say some others say some abatement of winde befell presently after but all conclude it abated the next day but that they had divers stormes afterward being then 200. leagues short of the lands end is most certaine And in one of these hideous stormes having no saile abroad the ship lying adrist with the helme bound up the master conceiving hee was to the Southward of Silley layed the ship to the Norward the night being very darke In the last watch of the night one of the Quarter masters going to the Pumpe discerned Rocks ahead within a Cables length and made such an outery as the whole ship was awakened and nothing but death presented them there was much hast made to let loose the Helme and to come to saile but before it could bee done the ship was engaged amongst the Rocks of Silley and nothing could bee discerned under water but by the breaking of the waves which was their best direction to cunne the ship In this laby●inth the Ship travelled for a quarter of an hower or more in which time it was generally observed the Ship readily obeyed her Helme or rather the great Pilate of the Seas upon the word given which at other times shee was slow in At length the Ship drove in and came a ground between two Ilands and could not bee got off being ●bbing water and it was the speciall providence of God to place her there in much mercy and compassion on his poore afflicted ones the vessell being full of passengers for on both sides and on head were desperate Rocks which were not discovered till the morning light the Ship all this while lying fast upon a bed of Sand or Owse when it was day the dangers which they had escaped in the night to our admiration presented themselves nor durst the Master worke the ship till hee had gotten a Pilate from the shore who undertooke to bring her to an Anchor ne●re Crowes Sound The deliverance was so strange as the Inhabitants of Silly were amased at it some saying it was a miracle another that God was a good man that should thus deliver us indeed all the Iland wondred and the passengers themselves most of all when they saw the Breaches at low water so farre off at Sea neere which they passed before they knew the danger and the Rocks they sailed by after they found themselves involved as it were between S●pll● and C●rybdis Much more might bee added to account the mercy but this may suffice to let the world see 't is no such trifle as is pretended in their prophane relation who had then other thoughts being passengers also in the Ship and seemed willing to joyn● with the godly party in the Ship in testimony of their thankfulnesse to celebrate a speciall day of thanksgiving unto the Lord for so great salvation where Mr. Golding preached being a passenger with them and Teacher to a Church of Christ in Berm●d● And now good Reader what wilt thou judge of such as can turne such deliverances into a scoffe witnesse their prophane Title New-Englands Jonas cast up at London the naked truth whereof thou hast heard related in all which Jonas was but once accidentally named and that by way of direct opposition to any such counsell The Master of the ship never spoke to no speech between the woman and Mr. Vassall that I can learne but betweene Mr. Fowle and her shee under no distemper of passion but modest discreet and sober in her carriage thorow out the whole In briefe all that I can meet with that were in the Ship especially the most eminent persons affirme this relation of theirs to bee false yea Mr. Fowle himselfe acknowledged it before Captaine Sailes late Governour of Bermudas Captaine Leveret and Captaine Harding all passengers in the ship who all concu●●ed in the falshood of the same and the three Captaines not a little offended thereat and Mr. Richard Sadler and divers others are ready to testifie the same But put the case they had deluded a poore weake passionate woman by a shadow instead of a substance Mee thinkes if any feare of God had been before their eyes they might have trembled at so many and so great threatnings of the Almightie who followed them from one land to another over the vast Ocean with his terrours and have shewed greater thankfulnesse for such a deliverance as before recited then to carry themselves as they doe labouring to delude the Reader as well as themselves and to ascribe all to the Winter season as if all our passages were ordinarily such as appeareth by their note in the Ma●gent page 12. when as that is false also witnesse some that came with them who affirme they have bin in Winter passages but never in the like the Master his company all concurring therein being confident also they fared the worse for their company And thus much ●●●n affirme and at least an hundred more that came with me who came away about the middest of December five weeks deeper in Winter then they and yet through Gods undeserved favour had a comfortable passage and landfall which I thought good to adde to the rest that persons may not bee discouraged from the passage though I must confesse the Spring and Fall are the best seasons But let them go on if nothing will reclaime them and I will waite and attend the word of the Lord in the mouth of his servant and observe the dispensation of his providence towards his Churches and the enemies of the same And thus much for answer to the fourth head of their book published by Major Child● An answer to the Postscript IN this postscript which containeth more matter then the whole ● booke I can trace our Salamander line by line and phrase after phrase in his accustomed manner to del●de many simple ones and weaken their respect to the government of New-England where hee did a great deale more hurt by his personall presence than hee can doe here by such slanderous invectives as he either pin●●th upon others witnesse this silly peece called New-England● J●n●● o● any hee shall publish hereafter To answer every particular at length would bee too tedious But because hee pretendeth an answer to some passages in a booke written lately by my selfe

which is his sense and that the sixth person is not of the Church meaning amongst them And this saith hee wee have but his word for and makes is a falshood in me but I returne it upon himselfe whose bold spirit dare affirme any thing against the apparent light of the Sunne for however the Dutch baptize the children of all Nations that are presented to them as well as their owne as I shewed in my former Treatise yet this their practise stands not upon the Presbyterian bottome nor doe I know I confesse what they take for their warrant in it yet I affirme and that of my owne knowledge having lived divers yeares amongst them that their Church is a select people gathered together into an holy communion which holinesse hee scoffes at and which they call the ●●ement and that many thousands of those whose children they baptize never are admitted to the Lords Supper which they account Church communion nor are ever brought before their Classis and there examined admitted occasionally admonished yea excommunicated if they submit not to the Rule and that all those that are admitted are such as tender themselves and thereupon are examined c. in the Classis as before And for an instance of the truth of it a godly English Minister that had sometimes lived in Rotterdam told me upon this very occasion that the Deacons of the Dutch Church at Rotterdam told him that although there were almost 7000. houses in their City and in many of them divers families yet they had but 2000 persons in Church-fellowship And for the French Churches who know● not that the Nation I meane the body of them are still Papists and yet as blinde as Bayard our malicious Salamander whose tongue is known to be no slander from whence he came doth charge me with falshood herein 'T is true through Gods mercy there are many thousand Protestants amongst them and I wonder that any man should bee so audacious as to affirm these are not a distinct people from the rest that have undergone so many massacres and persecuti●●● for the testimony of their Faith and witnesse they have borne against the abo●inations of Rom● and the Papacy still so much admired in that Nation by the body of it And as I ●●●d of Holland the sixth person is hardly of the Church so in France the tenth man for ought I heare is not a Protestant And how then they should be a Nationall Protestant Church I know not As for his jeere about the Covenant let him goe on in his way of scorn and contempt of the Covenant between God and his people and yet hee shall finde the Church in the Old Testament established by a Covenant and after their greatest desertions and declinings upon solemne dayes of humiliation their Covenants againe renewed throughout the same And the Churches under the New Testament are still the same though the Ceremonies and Ordinances bee altered by the Lord thereof yea the Scottish Churches which hee saith are Nationall and so would make a breach in that respect between them and us are solemne and serious in their Covenant and the English in the late Reformation no lesse serious to Gods glory bee it spoken when as there are many hundred thousands in both Nations that will not take these their Covenants but remain in Popish superstition and wilfull ignorance And for our tenders to the Scots to live amongst us and enjoy their liberty in the exercise of the Presbyterian government formerly and the late tender of the Court of the Massachusets to their Petitioners for the enjoyment of it at present themselves providing for it 't is not so strange as true But whereas they say they hear not of the latter being since they came away 'T is false I have told them and they may heare it by many others but they have not the spirit of peace in them nor will they take notice of any thing that tends thereunto but seeke as appeareth by this Postscript to blow up the coal●s of contention and division so much as possible may bee hindering peace and good agreement between Brethren by all the meanes and courses they can use And for what h●saith concerning Mr. H●bbards censure daring mee to say Whether Mr. Hubbard were not punished directly or indirectly for baptizing some children whose parents were not members of the Churches in New-England For answer I doe and dare affirme in my conscience that I am firmly perswaded hee was not And however I doe not desire to meddle in the case nor to engage in other mens controversies but rather seeke to heale them by all due meanes yet I thought good to answer his challenge in this particular that so that cloud of jealousie might also be dispelled so far as concerneth my own thoughts in the case and had hee but so much charitie in himselfe as becomes a Christian man I am confident hee would bee of the same mind with mee And so much for answer to that particular and the whole Book wherein the Reader may see more malice in our accusers then policy in us whose simplicity is branded with subtilty fallacy and what not but blessed bee God it is by such whose tongues are their owne and will not bee controuled by any and from whom I expect all that malice can invent but am come to a resolution that whatever our Salamander shal vent either in his own name or by others as at this time I wil leave him to God and referre our Vindication to the Lord Jesus Christ who hath all power in heaven and earth committed to him in whose eyes I trust we are precious who undoubtedly will clear up our innocency when these our proud enemies shall bee scattered before him And to whom with the Father and the Spirit God over all blessed for ever be glory and praise to all eternity Amen FINIS ERRATA Page 3. l. 38. for another r. any other p. 4. l. 2. for the r. their p. 11. l. 35. for about r. to put p. 19. l. 24. for our r. their ibid. l. 30. for us r. them p. 21. l. 28. for are r. is