Selected quad for the lemma: book_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
book_n	call_v	church_n	holy_a	2,804	5	4.7314	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A44866	A vindication of the essence and unity of the church catholike visible, and the priority thereof in regard of particular churches in answer to the objections made against it, both by Mr. John Ellis, Junior, and by that reverend and worthy divine, Mr. Hooker, in his Survey of church discipline / by Samuel Hudson ...	Hudson, Samuel, 17th cent.	1650 (1650)	Wing H3266; ESTC R11558	216,698	296

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unam_fw-la quoque_fw-la esse_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la bezae_fw-la conf_n fid_fw-we cap._n 5._o art_n 2._o saepe_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la nomine_fw-la universam_fw-la hominum_fw-la multitudinem_fw-la in_o orbe_fw-la diffusam_fw-la designamus_fw-la quae_fw-la unum_fw-la se_fw-la deum_fw-la &_o christum_fw-la colere_fw-la profitetur_fw-la calv._n justit_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 1._o s_o 7._o est_fw-la congregatio_fw-la omnium_fw-la per_fw-la orbem_fw-la universum_fw-la qui_fw-la consentifide_v evangelica_n bull_v est_fw-la caetus_fw-la hominum_fw-la christum_fw-la suum_fw-la regem_fw-la sacerdotem_fw-la &_o prophetum_fw-la profitentium_fw-la keckerm_n in_o novo_fw-la testamento_fw-la vocamus_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la pro_fw-la omnibus_fw-la qui_fw-la christo_fw-la nomen_fw-la dederunt_fw-la zuingl_n vniversa_fw-la multitudo_fw-la christianorum_fw-la quae_fw-la se_fw-la fidelem_fw-la censet_fw-la simul_fw-la num_fw-la fidelis_fw-la populus_fw-la una_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la dicitur_fw-la idem_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la significat_fw-la totam_fw-la illam_fw-la omnium_fw-la multitudinem_fw-la qua_fw-la generatim_fw-la ex_fw-la vocatione_n &_o professione_n externa_fw-la astimatur_fw-la trelc_n ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la ex_fw-la hominibus_fw-la unius_fw-la temporis_fw-la est_fw-la caetus_fw-la eorum_fw-la omnium_fw-la qui_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la evangelij_fw-la de_fw-la jesus_n christo_fw-la in_o carne_fw-la jam_fw-la manifestato_fw-la per_fw-la universum_fw-la mundum_fw-la profitentur_fw-la dicitur_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d heb._n 2.5_o i_o e._n mundus_fw-la ille_fw-la

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