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A16571	All the examinacions of the constante martir of God M. Iohn Bradforde before the Lorde Chauncellour, B. of Winchester the B. of London, [and] other co[m]missioners: whervnto ar annexed, his priuate talk [and] conflictes in prison after his condemnacion, with the Archbishop of york, the B. of Chichester, Alfonsus, and King Philips confessour, two Spanishe freers, and sundry others. With his modest learned and godly answeres. Anno. Domini 1561	Bradford, John, 1510?-1555.	1561 (1561)	STC 3477; ESTC S116578	60,488	240

yeres and called them by there right name hell houndes rather then heauen houndes On this sorte syr quoth I. will I proue my faith that you can neuer doo yours yea syr quoth he If we dyd knowe you had the holy goste then could we beleue you Here might haue ben aunswered that Stephens enemies would not beleue he had the holy gost and therefore they dyd as they did But in speakinge he rose vp and the keper called and others that stode bye to take his parte all againste me Howe be it gentlie without anye tawntynge or rayling onelye prayinge me to take hede to that maister Harpsfeld speake who still said I was oute of the churche and did contempne it spitt against it and I cannot tel what But I still affirmed that I was moste certeine I was in Christes churche could shewe a demonstracion of my religion from tyme to tyme continually And so we made an ende sainge that in the mornynge he would come again vnto me God our father for the name and blod of his Christ be merciful vnto vs and vnto all his people and kepe them frō al false teachers blind guides whereby alas I feare me muche hurte wil come to this realme of England God our father blesse vs and kepe vs in his truth pore church foreuer Amē Vppon the .16 of Februarye in the morning about .9 of y e clocke there came again the said maister Harpsfeld and the other two with him Nowe after a fewe wordes spoken we sate downe maister Harpsfeld beginning a very long oraciō almost ther quarters of an houre lōg First repeting what how far we haue gone astraye beginnynge to proue vpwardes succession of Byshoppes here in Englād for .8 c. yeres in Fraūce at Liōs for xii.c yeres in spaine at Hispalen for viii.c yeres in Italie at Millen for .xii. c. yeres goinge by that to proue his churche whereto he vsed also successiō of byshopes in the Est church for the more confirmacion of hys wordes and so concluded with an exhortation an interrogation The exhortacion that I woulde obey this church the interrogacion whether I could shewe anye such succession for the demonstraon of my church for so he called it whiche I followed Vnto this his long oracion I made a sherte aunswered howe that my memorie was euill for to aunswere particularlye his long oracion therfore I woulde generallye doo it thinckinge that bycause his oracion was rather to perswade then to proue that a general aunswere would serue So I told him that if Christe or his Apostles beinge here on yearth hath him demaūded of the Prelats of the churche then then to haue made a demonstracion of the churche by succession of highe priestes whiche had approued the doctrine he taught I thincke quoth I that Christe hert would haue done as I doo That is haue brought furth that which vpholdeth the church euē the veritie of the worde of God taught beleued not of the high priestes which of longe time had persecuted it but by y e Prophetes other good simple men whiche perchaunce were counted for heretickes with the churche that is with them that were ordeyned highe priestes in the churche to whome the true churche was not then tyed by any successiō but the word of god And thus to thincke quoth I Saint Peter gyueth an occasion when he saith That as it went in y e church before christes comminge so shall it goo in the Churche after his commynge but then the pillars of the Churche were persecutours of it Therefore the like we muste loke for nowe Why quoth be I can gether and proue you succession in Ierusalem of the high priestes From Aarons time I graunte quoth he but not suche succession as allowed y e trueth Why quoth he did they not all allow Moyses lawe yes quoth I. And kept it for the bokes therof as you do the Bible and holy scripture but the interpretacion and meaning of it ▪ they did corrupte as I take it you haue done And therfore the persecutions they stirred vp against the Prophetes Christe was not for the lawe but for the interpretacion of it as you saie nowe that we must haue the interpretaciō of the scriptures at your hādes but to make an ende quoth I death I do loke daily for yea hourely I thīke my time be but very short Therfore I had neade to spend in praier as much tyme with god as I can whileste I haue it for his helpe and comforte And therfore I praye you beare with me that I do not more plainlye and in more woordes aunswere you longe talke If I sawe death not so nere me as it is I woulde then weye euery peice of your oracion if you would giue me the some of them I would aunswere them accordinglie I hope But bicause I dare not nor I wil not leaue of lokinge and prouidinge for that whiche is at hande I shall desire you to holde me excused because I doo as I do And I hartelye thancke you for youre gentle good will I shall hartelye praye GOD oure father to giue you the same lyght and lyfe as I wishe to my selfe And so I beganne as to rise vppe But then maister Harpsfeld beganne to tell me that I was in a verye perillous case and he was sorie to see me so setteled Telling further that in dede he could tell me nothinge whether death were fare of or nere But that forceth not quoth he so that you did dye well Well quoth I yes For I doubte not in this case but to dye wel For as I hope and am cercertain my deathe shall please the Lord so I trust I shall dye cherfullye to the comforte of his chyldren yea but what if you be deceaued quoth he what quoth I if you dyd saye the Sone did not shyne nowe Then it did shine thoroughe the wyndowe where wee satt wel quoth he I am sorrie to see you so secure and carelesse In dede quoth I I am more carelese secure carnallie then I shoulde be God make me more vigilant But in this case quoth I I can not be to secure for I am most assured I am in the truth That are ye not quoth he for you are not of the Catholike church No quoth I thoughe you haue excommunicate me yet am I in the Catholike church of Christe and wil be a child of it and an obediedt child for euer I hope Christe will haue no lesse care for me then he had for the blynd man excommunicate of the Sinagoge And quoth I further I am certain that the necessarie articles of y e faith I meane the .xii. articles of the Crede I confesse beleue with that which you call the holy church So that euē your church hath taken some thing to muche vpon her to excōmunicate me for that whiche by the testimonie of my Lord of Durisme in his boke of the sacramēt latelye put

out saint Augustin how Iudas receaued Panem domini and not Panem dominum how that he must be in corpori Christi that must receaue Corpus christi which he went about to put awaye with idem and not ad idem out of saint Ierome and howe that in cotpore Christi was too bee vnderstande of al that be in the visible church althoughe they be not in the inuisible churche with God whiche I denied to be Sainte Augustines meanynge and saide also that saint Ieromes allegations could not make for that purpose Again we had talke of transubstantiacion He bringeth furth Ciprian Panis quem dedit Dominus natura mutatus And I expounded Natura not for the substaunce As quod I the nature of an herbe is not the substaunce of it so the breade chaunged in nature is not to be taken for chaunged in substaunce for nowe it is ordeyned not for the food of the bodie simplye but rather for the food of the soule And here I broughte fourth Gelasius whome he saide was a Pope yea marye quod I. But his fayth is my faith quod I for the Sacrament if you wold receaue it From this talke we wente to talke wether Accidentia were Res or no. If they be properlie Res quod I then be they substaunce and if they be substaunce in that we muste haue Tetrestrem rem and eayrthlye substaunce in the Sacrament as Ireneus saithe then muste we not denye bread quod I. But he saide that colour was the earthelye thynge and called it an accidentall substaunce And so here aboutes wee hadde muche babling to none effecte I omitte the talke we had of my Lorde of Caunterbury of Peter Martirs boke of his letter laied to my charge When he was condempned of y e church whether Dic ecclesie et ce ▪ was of the vniuersall churche or of a particular churche which at the lenght he graunted of vayne glorye whiche he willed me to be ware of at his comming furth of the Countre and suche like talke A litle before his departinge I sayde this Maister doctor quod I as I saide to Maister weston the laste daye so saye I vnto you againe that I am the same man in religion againste transubstantiacion still which I was when I came into prisō for quod I hitherto I haue seen nothynge in anye pointe to infirme me At whiche wordes he was som thing moued said that that was not Catholicke ▪ yes quod I and I truste so to proue it euen by the testimonie of the catholicke fathers vntill Concilium Lateranense and there abouts The keper maister Clayden desired hym to tarrie diner whiche thing he denyed bycause had els wheare promised And so wente his waye sayinge that he woulde came after to me god one father be with vs al and giue vs the spirite of his truth for euer Amen In the after nowne about .5 of the clocke cometh maister westō whiche sente worde to the keper that he would haue ben with me ▪ by .2 of the clocke Nowe when I was come down out of my prison chamber vnto him he very gentlye saluted me desired the companye euerie man to departe and so sat donne and I besides hym And after that he had thancked me for my writtinge vnto hym he pulled out of his bosome the same writing which I had sent hym The copie whereof in Englishe for I did writte it in Laten shal immediatly follow this communicacion And before he began to read it he showed me that he asked of my conuersacion at Cambridge sithen his being wyth me quod he maister Bradford bycause you ar a mā not giuē to the glorie of this world I wil speake it before your face your life I haue lerned was such there alwaies as al mē euen y ● greatest enemies you haue can not but praise you it And therfore I loue you quod he muche better then euer I did Nowe quod he I will reade ouer your argumēts so we wyll conferrthē Such they ar that a man may well perceaue you stande of conscience therfore I am glad and the more redye to pitie you So he began to rede the first and there beganne to tell howe that thoughe the worde transubstantiacion began but lately yet the thinge quod he was hath bene sithen Christes institucion And I told him that I did not contend or hange vppon the worde onlye but vpō the thing which quod I is as newe as the worde Then went he to the second and there broughte oute sainte Augustine howe that if an euil man goinge to the deuyll did make his will his sonne and heyre would not saye hys father dyd lye in it or speake tropically Much more Christe quod he goinge to god did neuer lye nor vse any figuratiue speach in his laste wil and testament Do you not remember this place of saint Augustin quod he yes syr quod I. But I remēber not that saint Augustine hath those wordes tropice or fyguratiue that is figuratiuelye spoken as you reherse For a man maye speake a thinge figuratiuely and lye not as Christe did in his last supper After this he wente to the third and broughte furtho Ciprian howe that the nature of the bread is turned into fleshe Here faith he that my Lord of Caunter burie expoundeth nature for qualitie by Gelasius the whiche interpretacion serueth for the aunswere of your third argumēt that Christe called breade his bodye that is the qualitie forme and apparaunce of bread And further quod he the scripture is wonte to call thinges as they auerr by the same names As Symon the Leper not whiche was so presentlye but bicause he had ben so Syr quod I Cipriā wrote before Gelasius therfore Ciprian must not expound Gelastus but Gelasius Ciprian and so they both teache that bread remaineth stil As for thinges hauinge still the names they had maketh nothinge to aunswere this except you could shew that this nowe were no bread● as easelye a mā might haue knowen and seen then Simon to haue ben healed and cleane from hys Leprosey After this he wente to the foerth of the Cuppe the which he din not fully red but digressed into a longe talke of Ciprians Epistles De aquarus Also of Saint Augustine expoundinge the breakinge of bread by Christe to his 2. Disciples goinge to Emause to be of the Sacramente with such other talke to no certein purpose and therfore I prayed him that in as muche as I had written to hym the reasons that stablishe my faith against transubstantiacion so he woulde doo the lyke to me that is aunswere myne by writinge and shew me moo reasons in writinge to confirme trāsubstantiaciō which he promised me to doo and said that he would sende or briynge it to me agayne with in three dayes And so when he hadde ouerlye reade my argumentes and heare and there speake litle to the purpose for auoidynge of them and therfore I eftsones prayed him to giue me in