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these bookes to be canonicall Cōcerning e Apol. 2. adu Ruffinum in Prolog S. Hierome lie answereth and explaineth himself saying truly I did not set downe what I thought but what the Hebrewes are accustomed to say against vs heerein calling there further Ruffinus e Apol. 2. adu Ruffinum in Prolog a foolish Sycophant for mistaking and charging him with the Hebrewes opinion Also in another place he most expresly placeth the f in Machab in praefat in bookes of Machabees reiected by the Hebrewes amonge the stories of Deuyne Scripture And in another place he saieth of g Iudith Iudith the booke of Iudith among the Hebrewes is read among holy writinge whole authoritie is not iudged so sit to confirme things that are in contention c. but because the councell of Nice is said to haue reckoned this booke in the number of holy Scripture I rest content c. Secondly it is euident that in the primitiue Church the canonicall Scriptures were not generally receaued all at once but in so great varietie of pretended Scriptures sundry bookes were for the tyme misdoubted or by some Fathers and Councels omitted or not receaued which yet afterwardes vpon better search and consideration they were generally acknowledged To conclude this point heare M. Bilson Lord Bishop of W●nchester saying h in his Suruey of Ch●ists sufferings c. anno 1604. pag. 664. the Scriptures were not fully receaued in all places no not in Eusebius tyme. he saith that the epistles of Iames Iude the 2. Peter and 2. Iohn are contradicted as not writen by the Apostles the epistle to the Hebrewes was for a while contradicted c. the Churches of Syria did not receaue the 2 Peter nor 2. Iohn the epistle of Iude nor the Apocalypse c. the like might be said for the Churches of Arabia will you hence therefore conclude that these parts of scripture were not Apostolicall or that wee need not receaue them now because they were formerly doubted off c so fully doth M. Bilson answere our Aduersaries like vsuall obiections against the Machabees and the other bookes of the old testament now in question But the authoritie of the Church only as is by our Aduersaries confessed might satisfie vs at least in this poynt for M. Iewel saith defence 1. of his Apolog pag. 201. edition an 1571. pag. 241. the church of God had the spirit of wisdome wherby to discerne true scripture from false the protestant author of the scripture and the church whome Bullinger so greatly cōmendeth in his preface thereof to the reader doth affirme k Cap. 15. fol. 71 71. cap. 16 fol. 74. 75. that wee could not belieue the ghospell were it not that the church taught vs and witnessed that this doctrine was deliuered by the Apostles THE X ARTICLE The protestantes pretence of only Scripture is friuolous and idle a In his Suruey c pag 219. It hath euer bene the cōmon practice and deceipt of almost all Nouellistes to pretend only scripture vsinge it as theire laste and only refuge thereby to continue theire contentions and to exempt themselues from all other finall iudgmentes whatsoeuer In this sorte Beza himselfe is noted to euade witnes M. Bancroft Sayinge a How Beza discrediteth himselfe sayinge if any man shall oppose against my exposition the authoritie of certaine fathers I appeale to the word of God whereuppon M. Bancroft inferreth sayinge how cranke is Beza wth the auncient fathers The Brownists of Amsterdam saye to M. Balsons allegations from the fathers b Apologie print 1604. pag 103. Let M. Bilson wth these Doctors know that vnles they can proue by the word of God their Prelacie c. all the colour they bring oute of former times and writers is of no moment in this case M. Hooker saieth of the c Eccl policie in his preface page 38. Anabaptiste the booke of God they for the most part so admired that other disputation against their opinions then only by allegatiō of scripture they would not heare d ●b de Christe natura pag. 2. In this sort doth Socinus a protestant against volanus his protestant aduersarie giue the stipp in defence of his errour against the diuinitie of Christe saying To what purpose should I answere that wich thou borrowest from the Papistes c. especially where thou opposest to vs the perpetuall Consent of the Church very exellently doubtlese in this behalfe hath Hosius the Papist discoursed against you wounding you with your owne sword and therefore you are no lesse saf in vrging against me the Churches perpetuall consent then are the Papistes in their vrging thereof both against you and vs And alitle further he saith e Pag. 222. wee set before vs in this Questiō concerning the diuinitie of Christ none for Master or interpreter but only the holy Ghost c. for wee do not thinke that wee are to stande to the iudgment of any man though neuer so learned of any Coūcell though in shew neuer so holy lawfully assembled of any visible Church though neueuer so perfect and vniuersall Euen Volanus him selfe disputing against the Iesuites is forced to make vse of the examples sayinges and deedes of Athanasius Hierome Augustine Theodoret other fathers whose authoritie he now opposeth against vs as sacred Thus much haue I thought good to remember that Volanus may rereaue answere from him selfe whē he so often inferreth against vs the authoritie of learned mē Cōsent of the Churche Thus farr Socinus Insomuch that A certaine Englih protestāt author of the treatise entituled A briefe answere to certaine obiections against the descentiō of Christ into hell printed at Oxford by Ioseph Barnes where he saieth reproueth this other protestāt brother sayinge where you saywe must build our faith one the word of faith tyinge vs to the scripture only you giue iust occasiō to think that you neither haue the auntict fathers of Christes Churche not their sonnes succeding thē agreeing whith you in this point which implieth a defēce of some strange Paradox these likewise he This kind of tergiuersation vnder pretense of only scripture is and hath bene so infinitly tedious to protestantes them selues so euidently the only meanes wherby to vpholde all theire dissentions yet daylie renewinge and vprisinge that M. Hooker faieth M. f preface of his Ec. po icie lect 6. pag. 28. 29. ●era in his laste booke but one professeth him selfe to be now wearie of such Combates and encounters whether by word or writing in so much that he findeth that Controuersies are therby made but braules therefore wisheth that in some comō lawfull assēbly of Churches all these thyftes may be at once decreed Luther himselfe calleth the scripture g Hosias ●ib 3 cōtra R●cutud see it also 〈◊〉 A booke for heretikes And others of his cōfederates h A Ianus Cope Dialog b. c. 19 1. A Nose of wax a phrase
the wildernes being produced he saith● this same wee ought to doe wherby saluation is brought to our soules yea wee ought to be hold Christ crucified in such manner of Images and belieue in him CALVINS DOCTRINE p lib. 1. c. 11. ¶ 5 de Imaginibus I know saith he that it is vsuall and more then common that Images are idiotes booke This Gregory said but the holy Ghost speaketh far otherwyse so that if he had bine taught in his schoole he would neuer haue spoken so q ¶ 7 wher for if Papistes haue any shame let them neuer hereafter vse any more this refuge Images are idiotes bookes and by and by he saith but these pictures and statues which they dedicate to Saintes what are they but the examples of most filthy luxurie and obscuritie so that if any mā would fashion himself to these he were worthy of a bastinado yea stewes afford whores more shamfast and modest then temples or churches do those which they call the Images of virgines they fayne also a habit to martyres no lesse vndecent let them frame therfore ther idols at least with a little shame that they may ly with a little more modestie then to say that they are bookes of some sanctitie but wee will also answere this is not the way to teach the faithfull people in holy writ And a little beneath to what end therfore were there so many woodden stone siluer and gold crosses erected in churches euery where r Ibid. ¶ 9. let them looke hither therfore whoe seeke miserable pretences to defend this execrable Idolatrie wherewith true religion hath bine drowned and ouerwhelmed this many ages Images say they are not taken for Gods ſ ¶ 13. but this being omitted let vs consider heere by the way whether any Images at all be necessarie in Christinian churches first therfore if the authoritie of the primitiue Church moue vs let vs remember for the first 500. yeares wherin religion and more sincere doctrine did as yet florish and spread it self that Christian Churches commonly were free from images But how impudent a lye this is may appeare by that which hath bine said before An old condemned Heresie Nic. eph lib 16. ca. 27. The Second Counsell of Nice anno 789. pronounced against Image breakers and spoylers of monasteries But Xenaius a Persian first of all taught that the images of Christ and his Apostles and Saintes were not to be worshipped THE 26. ARTICLE Of Purgatory and Lymbus Patrum THE CATHOLICKE DOCTRINE Besides heauen and Hell there is Purgatory to witt a place or middle state after this life wherin the soules of many faith full for their veniall sines or negligence and intermission of due satisfaction for their mortall sins are purged more fully by suffering a temporall punishment before they passe from thence vnto Paradise and the possession of the ioyes of heauen SCRIPTVRE Lymbus Patrum a Osce 6.3 HE will reuiue vs after 2. dayes in the 3. daye he will rayse vs vp c. b Lath. 9.11 Thou also in the blood of thy testament hast let forth thy prisoners out of the lane where in is no water c Luke 16.22 And was carried by the Angels into Abrahams bosome d Hebr. 11.40 Ecclesiast 24 45. That they with out vs should not be consummate I will penetrate all the inferiour partes of the earth and wil behold all that sleep and will illuminat Purgatorie e Matt. 5.27 Amen I say to thee thou shalt not goe out from thence til thou repay the last farthing This place S. Cyprian takes for Purgatorie And he that shall speake against the holy ghost Epist 52. ad Anton. num 6. cap. 12.2 it shall not be for giuen him neither in this world nor in the world to come out of this place S. f de ciuit Dei l. 21. c. 1 and S. Greg D●al l. 4. cap. 9. Austine proueth Purgatory also S. Gregory g Act. 2.24 Loosing the sorrowes of Hell out of this place S. h August lib. 12. c. 13. de Gent. ad lit Austine proueth purgatory for saith he Christ himself was not in paynes but to send other men of those doulours of Hel wherewith it was impossible himself should be touched i 1. Pet. 3.19 See Rhem test Annot. vpon this cap. and verse And he preached to them also that were in prison out of these words S. Cyprian Augustine and the fathers proue Christes descension into hell and Purgatorie k 1. Cor. 3.15 But himself shal be saued yet foe as by fier l Apoc. 5.13 And euery creature that is in heauen and vpon the earth and vnder the earth and that are in the sea and that are therein all did I here saying c. benediction and honor and glorie and power for euer and euer m Phil. 2.10 That in the name of Iesus euery knee bowe of the celestials terrestrials and infernals n 2. Tim. 1. v. 18. Our lord graunt him to find mercie of our lord in that day See also a very forceable place 1. Iohn 5.16 FATHERS S. Cyprian anno 240. saith o lib 4 epist 2. It is one thing to be purged a longe tyme for sins by torment and clarified by a longe fier and an other thinge to purge all sins by passion and sufferinge Origen anno 230. saith p hom 6. in Exod. he that is saued is saued by fier so that if a man haue some thing mixed with lead that the fier doth purge and resolue that all may become pure gold S. Gregorie Nyssen anno 380. saith m Orat pro mortuit either being purged in this present life by prayers and the studier of wisdome or hauing made satisfaction after his death by the furnace of the purging fier he would returne to his former felicitie Et infra hauing left his body he cannot be made partakers of gods diuinitie vnlesse the purging fier take away the spots mixed in his minde And againe others after this life purge their spots by the fier of purgatorie S. Gregory Nazianzen anno 380. saith n Orat. In ●lumina they shal be Baptized in their other fier wich is the last baptisme neither is it only more crueller but also longer which doth feed on hard matter lyke iron and doth cōsume the lightnes of vice S. Basil anno 380. saith o in cap 9. Esaiae if therefore wee haue made knowne our sinne by cōfession wee haue already made the growing grasse to wither which certainly the fier of Purgatorie would haue ōcsumed deuoured Et infra he doth not theaten vtter ruen and destructiō but sheweth the purgation according to the Apostle p 1. Cor. 3 1● But him self shal be saued yet so as by fier S. Eusebius anno 520. saith q Euseb Enis leatus hom de Epiphania This infernall payne doth exspect those whoe hauing omitted and not obserued their baptisme shall perish
350. saith e in Thesauro vt D. thocitat in opusculo de erroribus Grec wee ougth to stick to our head the Pope of Rome it perteineth vnto all to aske of him what to belieue what to hold S. Chrysostome anno 380. saith f homil vlt. in Ioannem S. Peter is a master placed over the whole world by our Sauiour Tertullian anno 200 saith g lib de praescript haeret That wee ought not to dispute with heretiques out of the Scripture because the true vnderstanding of Scripture is frō the Catholicke church therefore it ought first to be manifest what is the true doctrine of the Catholick Church but this can by no means be better knowne then in the Churches of the Apostles the chiefest where of is the Roman Church S. Cyprian anno 240. saith h lib. 1. epist 1. that heresies and schismes spring from nother cause then because the priest of God is not obeyed nor one priest for the tyme in the church iudge in the place of Christ is thought on S Ambrose anno 380. i Epist 10 writing to the Eemperour Valēt ne the younger who being corrupted by the Arriās would iudg of matters of faith saith But certenly if wee obserue either the order of devyne scripture or the course of auncient tymes who can deny but that Bishops in matters of faith I say in matters of faith were wont to iudge of Christian Emperours that is of their faith and not Emperours of Bishops that is of their faith thy Father a man of riper age said it be longeth not vnto me to iudge of Bishops now thy clemencie saith I ought to iudge Et infra if there be-any thing to be handled concerning faith that conference doth belong vnto priestes as it was done vnder Constātine a prince of famous memory heire of thy fathers dignitie but what hath bene well begunne is other wise cōsummated For Bisthops did first giue the true and syncere faith but when some would iudge of faith with in theire palaces they did effect by circumuensiō that the iudgmēt of Bishops might be chāged S. Hierome anno 380. saith k in epist ad Damasum I beseech your holynes the Pope by Christ crucified the saluation of the world by the holy trinitie that there be authoritie giuen me by your letters either that I councell or affirme three Hypostases And in an other place he saith l lib. 1. cōt Iouin out of Twelue one is chosen that a head being constituted occasion of Schisme might be taken away S. Augustine anno 400 saith m lib. 1. cont Crescouium cap. 23. whosoeuer doth feare to be deceaued through the obscuritie of this question let him aske councell of the Church which the holy scripture doth demonstrate with out any ambiguitie or doubting And againe n cont epist fundamenti cap. 5. But I saith he would not belieue the ghospell if the authority of the church did not compell me There be many moe of this kind which for breuities sake I omitt not doubting but these may suffice only receaue this testimonie from S. Austine that these fathers do not teach any new opinion or doctrine of their owne but what they haue receaued from the Apostles and primitiue Church it self o lib. 2. cont Iulianū Pelagianum The auncient Fathers saith he sought not frindship with vs or you nor yet were at enmity with either of vs with vs or you they were not offended neither did they pittie either of vs but what they found in the Church that they held what they had Learned that they taught what themselues had Learned of their forefathers the same they deliuered to their children For heretickes alleadging of authoritie or Scripture for the most parte the saying of S. Cyprian may suffice p de vnitate ecclesiae cap. 9. O corruptor of the Apostle and false interpreter the first wordes thou puttest downe but omittest that which followeth as thou thy self art cutt of from the church so thou cuttest away one sentence frō one little chapter THE 7. ARTICLE Scripture neuer called in Question amongst Catholickes a The fiue bookes of Moyses Iosue Ruth 4. bookes of kinges Paralapomenon 2. bookes of Esdras Nehemias sob the psalter of 150. psalmes prouerbes Ecclesiastes canticles 4. greater Prophets 12 lesser 4 Euangelistes the Actes of the Apostles 13. epistles of S. Paul besides that to the Hebrewes to other epistles one of S. Peter the other of S. Iohn THE 8. ARTICLE Scripture some tyme called in Question b Hester Baruch part of Daniel Toby Iudith wisdome Ecclesiasticus first secund of machabees certaine partes of S Marke Luke Iohn the epistle to the Hebrewes the epistle of S. Iames the last of S Peter the epistle of Iude part of the first of S. Iohn 2. 3. of S Iohn and the Apocalipse But now all proued to to cannonical THE 9. ARTICLE Scripture neuer admitted by the Catholicke church THe prayer of Manasses 3. 4. of Esdras 3. 4 of Machabees psalme 151 the appendix of the booke of Iob. the booke of Hermes called the pastor Now to omitt all out Aduersaries idle obiections without any proofe the Catholick thus proueth his scripture S. Austine saith a de Doctr●n● Christiana l. 2 c. 8. the whose cannon of Scripture is cōteyned in these bookes The fiue bookes of Moyses c. Iob Toby Hester ●●…h and the 2. bookes of Machabees twoe bookes of Es●●…as c and these 2. bookes wherof the one is called wisdom the other Ecclesiasticus for a certaine similitude called the bookes of Salomon for it is most certenly affirmed that ●e●us the son of Syrach did write them which not withstanding because they are thought worthy of Authoritie they are to be numbred amongst the Prophets the rest are c. these S. Austine Also the third councell of Charthage at which S. Austine was present saith b Cinou 47. See the lyke accompt by Innocēt in epist ad Ex ●p●rum and Selasius tom 1 concil in decret with 7● B●s●●● by Isch● l ● ●●●●olog c 1 by Rab●nus l. 2. instit clericorum by Cassiod●● l 2. d●●m l●ct●onē See it is thought good that nothing be read in the Church vnder the name of deuyne Scripture besides the Canonicall Scriptures the Canonicall scriptures are Genesis Exodus Leuiticus c the fiue bookes of Salomon c. Toby Iudith Hester 2. bookes of Esdras 2 bookes of Machabees c. Wheras out Aduersaties obiect that c Origē in eo ad Iuliū Articanū Origen d hom 1. in leuiticum Epiphamus c S. Hierome affirme the Machabees Ecclesiasticus Toby and other bookes of the old Testament to be Apocryphall it is answered ther vnto first that the Fathers in those places do not speake of there owne opinion but do only repeat what was the opinion of the Hebrewes and what bookes they thought Canonicall these three Fathers do defend
erred I proue manifestly by all that which followeth M. D. Couell saith p in his defence of the Hookers fiue bookes art 4 c. Pag. 31. It is not the word of God which doth or possibly can assure vs that wee do well to think it is the word of God the first outward motiō leading mē so to esteeme of the scripture is the authoritie of Gods Church which teacheth us to receaue Markes Ghospell who was not an Apostle to refell the ghospell of Thomas who was an Apostle and to retayne Lukes ghospell who saw not Christ reiect the glospell of Nicodemus that saw him M Fulk saith q in his answere to a Coūterfayt Catholike Pag 5. The same saith M. VV●●●● adu Stapl. l 1 c 5. p. 69 and M. Iuell in his def of Apolog. an 1571. p 242. That the church hath iudgment to discerne true wictinges from counterfayt the word of God from the writinges of men and that this iudgment she hath not of her self but of the holy Ghost Peter Martyr saith r Peter Martyr in his cōmon places in English part 1. c. 6. sect 8. pag. 42. Matt. 28.20 Iohn 9416. wee acknowledge it to be the function of the Church that seeing it is endued with the holy Ghost it should discerne the true and proper bookes wee gruāt in verie deed that the auncient Church had such a boundance of the spirit as thereby they easly knew which of those that were presented vnto them were the true and proper wordes of God Now certenly if the Church had this true spirit of the holy Ghost as Peter Martyr confesseth our Sauiour promiseth that it shall remayne which her vnto the worldes end percōsequence cānot nor hath not erred which yet further is made more euident by the sequell THE 13. ARTICLE The Church doth consist of good and badd a Matt. 3.12 HEe shall make cleane his flore and shall gather his wheat into his Barne but the chaffe he will burne with vnquenceable fier b Ibid. ● 13.30 Suffer both to growe vntill the haruest and in the tyme of haruest I will say to the mowers gather yee first the Cockell and bind them in bundles and burne them but the wheat gather yee into my barne c. c v. 39. The haruest is the end of the world c. d v. 49. soe shall it be in the consummation of the world the Angles shall goe forth and shall separat the good from the badd e Matth. 1. Reade but this whole Chapter and I doubt not but you wil be satisfied in this point THE 14. ARTICLE The Church is and ought to haue bene alwayes visible a Machabaeas cap. 4 IN the later dayes there shal be prepared the mountayne of the house of the Lord and placed on high vpon hils b Esaie 60. pag. 20. Thy sunne shall no more goe downe nor thy moone leese her light for our Lord shal be thy light which shall continue foreuer c Act. 20.28 Attend vnto your selues and vnto the whole flocke ouer which the holy Ghost hath placed you Bishops to gouerne the church d Matth. 5.15 lib. de vnit eccl c. 14. A Cittie placed vpon a hill cannot be hidd This place and diuerse others S. Austine expoundeth to be meant of the church e Matt. 18.17 Tell it vnto the church c. now if the church be not visible how can wee tell the church which is not to be found f Ibid. 16.18 See also Rom. 10.14 And Esaie cap. 61.9 And vpon this Rocke will I build my church and the gates of hell shall not preuail against her But certenly the Duiell hath preuailed and that in a large measure if at any tyme according to you the Church hath bine so obscure that shee could not be found wherby poore soules might be receaued into it FATHERS g in psal 30. con 2. S. Austine saith The Prophetes haue spoken more obscurely of Christ then of the church I thinke it was because they did see in spirit that men would make diuisions or inuentions against the church and would not haue so great strife about Christ as be ready to rayse vp great contentions concerning the church therfore that from whence greatest contention would a ryse was more plainly fore told and manifestly prophecied of h homil 30. in Matthaeum Origen saith The church is full of light euen from the East to the west c. i hom 5. in 6. Esaie S. Chrysostome saith It is easier for the sunne to be extinguished then the church to be darkned or made obscure k lib. 3. cōtra epist Permeniani c. 5. S. Austine saith There is no securitie of vnitie but out of the promises of God the church being made manifest and as is said placed vpon a mountaine cannot be hidd And againe l tract 1. in epist Ioānis my brethren doe wee shew the church with our finger is shee not manifest And againe m tract 2. what shall I say more how blinde are they that see not so great a mountaine that shutt their eies against the light put on a candlesticke Also againe n psal 47.9 vpon this place of the psalme God hath founded it foreuer he writeth thus But perhaps that cittie speaking of the church which hath held vp the world shal be some tyme ouer whelmed God for bid God hath foūded it foreuer if therfore God hath founded it foreuer why fearest thou least the skie should fall And disputing against the Donatistes whoe said that the whole visible church was perished and remained only in Africa as you now say in England amongst certen iust persons only saith thus o in psal 101. concious 2. But that church which was ouer all nations is now no wheare shee hath vtterly perished this they say whoe are not in her Oh impudent voice shee is not because thou arte in her but beware least thou therefore be not for shee shall be although thou be not And afterwarde he bringeth in the church speaking thus How longe shall I be in this world tell me for their sake that say shee was but is not now the church hath played the Apostata and is perished from amonge all nations and he told me behold I am with you euen to the end of the world And againe p tom 6. cont Faustum Maniih l. 13. cap. 13. for these motiues or sauegarde of little children which may be seduced by mē from the manifest clearnes of the truth our Lord also prouiding said a cittie placed vpon a mountayne cannot be hid And againe let it be saith he that from hence the true Church is hidden to None wher vpon that is grounded which he saith in the Ghospell a Cittie placed vpon a hill cannot be hid and therfore he adioyneth in the psalme I haue put my tabernacle in the sunne that is in the open view These S. Augustine From the Aduersarie
endeuour wholy to possesse this man c in respons ad Confess Lutheri Oecolampadius forewarneth Luther lest that being puffed vp with arrogancy and pryde he be seduced by the Diuell The deuynes of Tigur Zuinglians against Luther in Confess Germ impressa Tiguri anno 1544. in octaua fol. 3. In tyme past saith they Luther put forth a boke intituled breuis confessio de Sacramento in which he doth plead plainly for the hereticall Sacramentaries and most wicked men and condemneth Oecolampadius Zuinglius and all the Tigurius the booke say they is full of Diuells full of shamefull scoffinges and mockeries fol. 274. it a boundeth in anger and fury yea Luther forgeting God and his diuinity calleth vs a damnable and execrable Sect. But let him see whether by such manner of angers and wicked taunts he do not declare himselfe the Archhereticke seeing he will not nor cannot haue any Society with those that confesse Christ but how marueillously doth Luther heere bewray himself with his Diuells what filthy wordes say they doth he vse and such as are replenished with all the Diuells in Hell for he saith that the Diuell dwelleth both now and euer in the Zuinglians and that they haue a blasphemous breast insathanized and that they haue besides a most vayne mouth ouer which Sathan beareth rule being infused perfused and transfused into thesame did euer man say they heare such speeches palse from a superious Diuell himself These they Caluin against Luther The Lutherans saith he are a mad hare braind kind of people a prowde faction of Gyants Admonitione 3. ad Ioachinium westphal frantick beastes prodigiously blind desperatly impudent they are no other then falsifiers and wicked slaunderers froward more then blockish proud and also so ignorant that what is deliuered to Children in Catechisme their elder deuynes are altogegether ignorant of a brute kind of wen. who did neuer know or tast what valew the supper of the lord is of or to what end it doth tend who also haue not so much as a drope of shame in them who are as if all their whole life they had studied nothing but excommunications in all their writinges still threatning some thinge or other exceeding all the Pops scribes and Clarkes and thus rayling they hope to ouer throw the most iust cause of the ghospell Ioannes Campanus a Caluinist against Luther in Colloquijs Latinis Luth tom 2. cap. de aduersarijs fol. 154. As Certayn it is saith he there is a God so certayne is it that Luther is a Diuellish lyer The Deuynes of Heidelberg against Luther Theologi Palatini in ordinatione ecclesiastica in admonitione de lib. concordiae bergensis cap. 9. The Catechesmes say they of Luther and Brentius let them be cast out of the Church and their writinges let them haue no authority Againe Neither it is fit say they that Luther should be preferred or alledged against all auncient writers or later or according to his writing giue sentence vpon all thinges much lesse to condemne all those of heresie that doe not agree or consent with him for the whole vniuersall Church say they hath acknowledged as many of the auncient Doctours as haue liued in former ages neither doth the consent of the later giue authority to the elder but rather the elder to the later and therfore the auncient writers may be opposed against the aduersaries and not Luther or such lyke Ibid. Also for as much as Luther was not a Prophet or Elias or an Euangelist seing he hath erred in many thinges and in the Controuersie of the supper he had not the word of the lord for a rule but an old opynion of the Papacy and inuention of school men when as there are found many crafty sentences in his booke Eristicis spread abroad to inconsideratly slaunders reproches also many thinges idlely and very arrogantly spoken with out all piety and modesly scoffinge iestes in weighty matters players frumptes and vnpleasant iestes and also many thinges bitterly and iniuriously written not only against the Churches of Christ against learned holy and Innocent men but also contumelious against great princes and altogether vnworthy the person of a Christian deuyne for the causes say they Luthers bookes and sentences ought not ought not I say to be the rule of the Augustan Confession or of the Doctrine of the lords supper These they THE 51. ARTICLE The Deathes of Luther Zuinglius and Caluin Luther saith first of is owne writinges BEfore althinges saith he I do beseech the reader that these thinges he read with iudgment In praefat operum lat tom 1. In Genes cap. 19. fol. 243. yea with great commiseration and let him know that once I was a Monke yea I my self saith he doe hate my owne bookes and often tymes doe wish them to perish This he spake the yeare before his Death Again how often saith he hath my hart panted tom 2 Germ lentae fol 9. praefat lib. de abrog Missae and reprehended me and obiected against me what art thou only wyse can it be credible that all others do erre and haue erred so long a tyme haue all generations so often bene deceaued what if thou doest erre and bring so many into errour that shal be damned foreuer In Colloq mensal fol. 10. praefat supra Moreouer he saith of himself Art thou only he that hath the pure worde of God hath no man in the world thesame but thou that which the Church of God hath hither to defined and so many yeares obserued as good doest thou ouer throwe it as though it were euill ond so dissipate by thy doctrine all ecclesiasticall and Ciuil common weals I neuer put saith he these thoughtes and cogitations forth of my mynd that is that this work and businesse he meaneth his Apostacie had neuer beene begunne by me for what a great multitude of men haue I deceaued by my Doctrine I neuer had a greater and a more grieuous temptation therefor my preaching Because saith he I thought with my self thou hast stirred vp all this tumult in which temptation I haue beene drowed euen to hell it self agayn because I haue entred into this cause saith he now I must look vnto it and of necessity say it is iust if you ask a reason Doctour Luther will haue it so Sic volo sic tubeo sit pro ratione voluntas so I will so I commaund it let my will stand for a reason for wee will not be schollers but maisters and iudges of Papists yea wee will once proteruire insultare be malapert and insult ouer them I Doctour Martyn Luther saith he an vnworthy Euangelist of our Lord Iesus Christ doe say and affirme this article saith a lone vvith out vvarkes doth iustify before God the Roman Emperour shall suffer it to stand and remayne the Emperour of the Turkes the Emperour of the Tartares the Emperour of the Persians the Pope of Rome Cardinales Bishops
sentence Deut. 12.31 for my case being like to that of Moyses I dare say with Moyses and our very enemies are iudges It is agreed vpon betwixt vs both how necessarie a poynt our saluation is being for all eternity and therefore I will saue labour to cite scripture in proofe of that which is by neither part denied but in vaine is the scope and end of a thing granted if wee differre in the meanes to attayne it the meanes I assure my selfe you will say is the word of God which I deny not but let vs not thinke the Ghospell to be in the wordes of the scripture but in the sense not in the out side but in the inside or marrow not in the leaues of the wordes but in the sapp pith or root of reason other wyse euen the Deuill himselfe speaketh Scripture cap 1● 1● and all heresies according to that of Ezechiel make vnto them selues pillowes which they may lae vnder the elbow of euerie age and to gu●y you a tast hereof for this matter concerning my soule nerely I haue bestowed some diligent search herein consider with me I pray you how of auncient tyme the old hereticke Marcion found meanes to reiect both Moyses and all the Prophets and what did he pretend cap. 10.7 Surelie Scripture to witt that of Sainct Iohn hovv many soeuer haue come before me are theeues and robbers the Armenians also taught that the whole femal sex of women should be wholy extinct and that vvee should all ryse in the last iudgment in the state of man and what vvas their ground cap. ● 13 Scripture also to witt that to the Ephesians vntill vvee all meet in the vnitie of faith and knovvledge of the sonn of God into a perfect man The Mainchers also proued our Sauiour to be this materiall sunne vvhich vvee dayly see with our eyes and what colour had they scripture also Iohn 8.12 to vvitt where our Sauiour saith I am the light of the vvorld how did the Waldenses proue that euen a lavvfull iudge or Magistrate could not put to death the greatest Malefactour that vvas Exod. 20.13 by scripture Thou shalt not Kill by Scripture also the Circumcellians held that euery Christian might not only murther his fellovv but lay violent hands vpon himselfe for say they it is vvritten Iohn 12.25 he that hateth his life in this vvorld doth keepe it to lyfe euer lasting Thus out of these few to omitt many moe wee see how all heretiques like serpentes in imitation of that old serpent the Deuill who came with scripture euen to our Sauiour himselfe do lurks vnder the tree of knowledge I mean the scripture that so they may more cunningly conueigh their deadly poyson and surely though these examples of auncient tymes were sufficient to teach euery man humility seeing as a prudent man doth well obserue he that will need be his ovvne Scholler hath commonly a fooll to his master yet wantes there not neither sufficient occasion euen in our tymes to be carefull in this so waighty a businesse for how shall I thinke the protestantes in these dayes to agree vpon the true sense of scripture when they cannot a gree about the translation it selfe which must be the grownd where vpon they worke by which dissention also they shew themselues to haue descended in doctrine from these old heretiques in the primitiue church For doth the protestant beleeue the scriptures not to be receaued so fully and wholy as the Catholicke or as it pleaseth him papist doth but rather certayne chapters and bookes which seeme to him or rather indeed to this braine sicke phansie not so a greable to the purity of the ghospell to be cutt of and excluded the number of holy writt the same did the Carpocratians Seuerians and Manichees who condemned all the old testament as a thing fayned from an euill beginning a●d yet certainlie not without scripture as you may set in the example of Marcion first produced In lyke manner Cerdon denyed all the Euangelistes except S. Luke Cerinthus all except S. Mathevv the Seuerians also tooke away the Actes of the Apostles and with the Ebionites all the epistles of S. Paul the Alogians likewise esteemed the Apocalypse of S. Iohn for an inuention of Cerinthas Now that you are one with these at least in this point of mayming scripture is manifest for do not the most excellent of your whole clergy and first publishers of your ghospell Zuinglius Oecolampadius Illiricus and the Magdeburgenses exclude many of the Apostles epistles from all communione of holy scripture vnder pretence of examining it by the rule of the deuyne worde Certainly they can by no meanes dissemble it in the epistles of S. Iohn Iude Iames and S. Paul to the Hebrevves which in this my compendium were to longe to proue at large but to come yet more nere you Do not also your later Doctoures in this especially imitate these their predecessours yes most exactly as heere is sufficiently confirmed In the fourth disputation had with F. Campian the Iesuit in the tower of London your Doctoures did expresly censure these bookes by the authority only of fower or siue to be Apocriphall to witt the booke of vvisdome Syrach Iudith Toby the 4. bookes of Esdras Baruch Ecclesiasticus Hester and the Machabees in the new testament the ghospell of S. Luke S. Paul to the Hebrevves the second epistle of S. Peter the tvvoe last epistles of S. Iohn S. Iames and the Apocalypse Luther also calls the epistle of S. Iames a strawen epistle and of no truth and not worthy the spirit of an Apostle All which compared together your Doctours in this opinion of paring scripture cannot but drinke of the same cuppe with those old condemned heretiques But after seeing their folly and that they could by no means defend what thus rashly they had enterprized by often mutation and change they came to that text which you now haue but yet euen to this day with what dubitation this is done and correction or rather to speake truth corruption their often impressions doe manifestly testifie and I thinke you are not ignorant how many seuerall translations there haue beene within these few yeeres I can remember thee since my first acquaintance with London which mutabilitie plainly argueth they are those fond builders of whome our Sauiour maketh mention are shaken with euery blast because they build not vpon the rocke which is the church The piller and firmament of truth 1. Tim. 3.15 But vpon the shallow sandes of their owne vnsetled braines and this I speake not of my selfe but by the testimony of themselues which you may see more conuenient and at large hereafter yet it shall not be discomodious if in the meane tyme wee examine one of their chiefest linguists in England M. Broughton therfore in his epistle to the Lordes of the councell desireth them to procure speedily a new translation because that saith he vvhich is
vnto vs to flatter the simple but woūderfull is the profunditie ô God woūderfull is the profounditie it is a horror to looke into it a horror of honour a feare of Loue. To conclude last of all he saith h Epi. 119 cap. 21. in the holy Scriptures are farre more thinges which ● know not then which I know hitherto for Learning sanctity and Fidelity euen according to our Aduersaries peerelesse Saint Augustine S i Ruffinus lib. 2. hist. cap. 9. Basil and S Gregory Nazianzen both noble men both broughtt vp at Athens both companions for thirteen yeeres together in one monasterie did bestow their whole endeauours in reading the holy Scriptures and gathering the vnderstanding of them not out of their owne presumption but out of the writinges and authorities of their elderes whoe as is manifest had the rule of their vnderstanding from Apostolical tradition S. Ambrose saith the devine Scripture is a k Epist 44 ad constātinum sea hauing in it deepe sentēces and obscuritie of Prophetical riddles S. Hierome that miracle of vnderstanding in the greeke and Hebrew tongue saith of himself l Epist ad I neuer ceased Saith hee euen from my tender ago either to read or to aske learned men such thinges as I did not know neither did I euer take my self to be my master Finally not long since for this only cause I went to Alexandria to see Di●●ymus and to be resolued by him of all such doubtes m epist ad A●g●s●●●n quaest 8. as I had in the holy Scriptures Againe The whole epistle vnto the Romanes saith he is ouerwhelmed with to many obscurities But now I know you are not with outsome euasions and amōgst many this is a Chief one that although Scripture be obscure in many places yet you w ll haue all required vnto saluation plain to euery man But I proue the Contrarie for Baptisme is necessarie vnto saluation and not with standing that place in S. Iohn n cap. 3. v 5. vnlesse a man be borne againe c is so obscure and doth breed such cauil cōtentiō betwen Caluin and Breni●●s that o lib. 4. instit cap. 16. v. 15. Caluin doth confound the spirit with the water but p in cap. 3. Matt. Br●●●ius cōfoūdeth both with penaūce Moreover the Blessed Sacrament of the Eucharist which you call the Lords q Iohn c. 6 v. 51. supper is necessarie to saluation and not with standing it is a woūder to see how many and diuers expositions their are vpon these sower wordes r Matt. 26 v. 26. This is my body S Claudius Sainctes saith that there are fowescore fower interpretatiōs inuented by heretiques vpō them sower wordes only ſ Repet 1. cap. 10. Also iustification is necessarie and yet Luke Osiander a chief protestant in Germanie saith that there are twētie seuerall opinions of it where of euery one doth challeng Scripture for that which it holdeth Finally at least the belief of the Trinitie and incarnatiō of our Sauiour is necessarie vnto Saluation and yet notwithstāding who doth not see how the ●bionites Arians Nestoriās Eutychias valentinians do fight and cōtend abo●nt it and ●ast of all the new Arians and Eutychians of this our age which certenly they would neuer doe if places of scripture which they haue hādled necessarie to ●●●ation had bene plaine and easie to be vnderstood To co●clude the ōly disobediēs in not bilieuing the Catholi● Church were sufficiēt to condēne vs if wee did credit our Sauiours wordes who saith t Matt. 18. v. 17. yf he will not heare the Church let him be to thee as the heathē and publicā And that wee might not doubt of the doctrine of this Church he saith u ibid. ca. 16 v 18. c. 28. vers 20. The gates of hell shall not preuaile against her and that he will remaine wi●h thē the Doctors of the Church vnto the end of the world But if you will yet obiect and say that you cā alleage as firme and forceable places of scripture in your behalfe as I haue done in myne or shall doe heate after not with stāding you may not presently cōclud against vs but rather let vs assure our selues that the scripture cannot nor must not be cōtrarie to it self which to affirme and maintayne is blasphemie against the holy ghost certēly our sauiour saith x Matth. 12. v. 32 he that shall speake against the holy ghost it shall not be forgiuē him neither in this world nor in the world to come whereby the way wee may obserue that there is a place after this life where sins are forgiuen for hell I think you expect no absolution there Purgatory you abhor●e the name of it so foolist you thinke that opinion but into heauē S. Iohn saith There S●●ll enter no polluted thing not that doth abomination and maketh ●ye To close vp this matter therfore with these few sentences the first is Luthers who seeing that these wordes This is my body doe stand vmnoueable for the Catholicke vnder no colour may be wrested to any other sēse he calleth the deuine scripture the booke of heretiques y lib. 3. cont Brētium Alanus Copu● dialogo 6. cap. 19. as Hosius writeth And in an other place he saith z lib cent Zuingliū Ooec olampaducem ●f this world Saith he should lōg ēdure it must needs be for the diuers interpretations of scripture that now are extant that for the conseruation of the vnitie of faith that wee doe receaue againe the decrees of councells and fly vnto them for refuge The other sentence is of Vincentius Lirinensis who saith a lib cont prefanas haere●●m nouitate● cap. 37. as oftē as heretiques doe alleadge the sentēces of diuine Law by which being euill interpreted they labour to cōfirme their errours there is no doubt but they follow the craftie inuentions of theire author the diuell Again when wee see heretiques vse the Catholicke faith Let vs not doubt but it is the diuell that speaketh in them Now seing the Scripture must haue one true sense let vs be resolued by the most probable authoritie whether by the warrant of the primitiue Church with her doctors or of Luther Caluin vpon their priuate spirit and some few sectaries THE 6. ARTICLE Scripture is not for euery one to read and interpret a Mal. 2.7 THe lipps of the priest shall keepe knowledge the Law they sc Lattie shall require at his mouth b Deut. 24. v. 8. Thou shalt doe what soeuer the priest of the Leuiticall Law shall teach thee c Luke 10 3. Goe behold I send you d Make. 16. v. 15. Preach the ghospell to all creatures e Luke 10 16. He that heareth you heareth me f Iohn 14. v. 26. The holy ghost whome the father wil send in my name hee shall teach you all things g Matt. 28 v. 20. And behold
ill beseeminge the scripture and word of the holy Ghost howsoeuer wrested and abused by wicked men Likewise Beza himselfe saith i Beza praeface to his booke intituled ad octi colioqu●j mōtis vel ga●bi●esis respons p●rt 1. pag 2. Let all those thinges be submitted to the Iudgmēt of all learned and orthodoxall deuines especially of a free holy and lawfull Synod yf God shall at any tyme graunt any M Hocker saith againe k Hooker vbi supra pag. 26. what successe God may giue to any such kinde of conference or disputation wee cānot tell but wee are right sure of this that Nature scripture and experiēce haue all taught the world to seeke for the endinge of cōtentions by submitting it selfe to some iudiciall and definitiue sentēce where vnto neither parte that contendeth may vnder any pretence refuse to stand And a little further l pag. 28. see also the title in M D. Concil examē c. pag. 2. 3 4. 5 the also M. B. lo● in his perpetuall gouer●ment c pag. 370. 372. 374. The will of God is to haue thē doe whatsoeuer the sentence of a iudiciall and finall decision shall determin yea though it seeme in theire priuate opinion to swarue vtterly from that which is right c and that without this it is impossible wee should auoide confusion or euer hope to attaine peace And certainly our aduersaries hearein doe but accordinge to the wholsome admonition of S. Austine sayinge The veritie of scripture is holden of vs when we doe that which pleaseth the vniuersall Church which the authoritie of the same scripture cōmendeth and a little after he saieth m Austine tom 7. lib. 1. cap 33. whosoeuer feareth to be deceaued in the obscuritie of this question lett him aske councell concerninge it of the Church which the holy scripture pointeth vnto whout any ambiguitie M. Whitaker acknowledgeth that the question concerning canonicall scripture is to vs determined n Adu stap l. 2. c. 6 p. 270. 57. lib 2. c. 4. pag 300. 298 14. 15 against M. VVilli● Reignolds pag 44 See the same in M. Hooker ca. 3. ● 8. pag. 247. not by testimony of the spirit which saith he being priuate secret is vnsit to teach resell others But as he confesseth by ecclesiasticall tradition An argument saieth he whereby may be argued and cōuinced what bookes are canonicall and what are not The Protestāt author of the treatise of the authoritie of the scripture and the Church whome Bullinger in his preface before the same booke so highly cōmendeth doubteth not to saie with S. Austine and Tertullian we o the protestant c. c. 15. pag 74 75. could not beleeue the Gospel were it not that the Church taught vs and witnessed that this doctrine was deliuered by ●he Apostles This treatise was translated out of latine into English by Iohn Tomkins and printed 1●79 M Hooker saieth p In his first booke of Eccles polic c 5. 14 pag. 86. Ib d l 2. 5 4 pag. 102. of thinges necessarie the verie ch●●fest is to know what book●s we are bounde to esteeme holie which point saieth he is confessed impossib●e for the scripture it selfe to teach Againe it is not the word of God saieth he which doth or possible can ass●re vs that we doe well to thinke it is h s word for if any one booke of the scripture d●d giue testimony of all yet still that scripture which giueth credit to the rest would requier an other scripture to giue credit vnto it neither could wee come vnto any pause where on to rest vnles besides scripture there were some thinge that might assure vs c. lib. 3. S. 8. pag. 146. lib 2 li 7. pag 1●6 which also he acknowledgeth to be the authoritie of Gods Church THE 11. ARTICLE Protestantes disagreeing translations M. Bruges saith a Apologie sect 6 That the approued Protestant trāslation hath many omissions many additions which some tyme obscure some tyme peruert the sense M. Carle●● in his booke that Christ went not downe to hell hauing discouered many faultes in the English Bibles inferreth b pag 116. 241. That the English Protestantes in many places detorte the Scriptures frō their right sense and shew themselues to loue darknes more them light falshood more then truth they haue corrupted and depraued the sense obscured the trueth deceaued the ignorant and supplanted the simple M. Broughten also one of the chiefest linguistes in England in his epistle to the Lordes of the priuie Councell desireth them to procure speedily a new translation o because that saith he which is now in England is full of errours And in his Aduertisement of corruptions to the Protestant Bishops he saith That theire Publike translation of Scriptures into English is such as it peruerteth the text of the old testament in fouer hundred and forty eight places and that it causeth Millions of Millions to reiect the new testament and to runne to eternall flames c in his translation of the new testament parte 11. folio 110. Charles Molineus saith That Caluin in his harmonie maketh the text of the ghospell to leape vp and donne as the truth it selfe declareth he vseth violence to the letter of the ghospell in many places clean trāsposeth it and besides this he addeth to the text These hee d tom 2. ad Luther lib. de Sacramento fol. 412. l. 413. Zuinglius after detection of many corruptions in Luther concludeth thus See how thy case standeth Luther that in the eies of all men thou arte seenne to be a manifest and common corrupter of holy Scripture which thing thou canst neuer deny before any creature how much are wee ashamed of thee who hitherto haue esteemed thee beyond all measure and now trie thee to be such a false fellow these hee Castalio saith That to note all the errours of Beza in trāslating the new testament the worke would require to great a volume e In the fume of the conferēce before his maiestie pag. 46. The king thinketh the Geneua translation to be the worst of all other M. Parkes in his Apologie of three testimonies of Scripture cōcerning Christes descēding into hell in his defence of the first testamonie saith to M. D. W●llet As for the Geneua Bibles it is to be wished that either they may be purged from those manifold errours which are both in the text and in the margent or else vtterly pr●hibited In A Treatise intituled A petition Directed to her most excellent maiestie c the Puritans say Pag. 76. Our translation of the psalmes comprysed in our booke of common prayer doth in Addition Subtraction and Alteration differre from the truth of the Hebrew in Twoe hundred places Pag. 75. In so much as they doe therfore profess the rest to be doubtfull whether a man with a safe cōscience may subscribe therto The Ministers of Lincolne Diocesse tearme the
hath placed this man over the vvhole vvorld And agane he doth often repeat that the care of the brethren that is the Apostles and the vvhole vvolrd is committed to Peter q in cap. vlt Ioannis 7 Euthymius Ano 1150. doth tvvice mention that Peter hath receaued authoritie ouer the Apostles And saith Of thou say saith he how did Iames receaue the seat of Hierusalem r in cap. 22. Luc I ansvvere this man Peter is ordayned master of the vvhole vvorld vvhere he shovveth that as Iames vvas bishop of Hierusalem so vvas Peter of the vvhole vvorld Theophylactus Ano. 480. vpon that confirme thy brethren saith The manifest vnderstanding of this is beause I esteeme thee as prince or chiefe of my Disciples after that hauing dinied me thou hast wept and done pennance confirme the rest for this becometh thee whoe after me art the rocke foundation of the church And a little beneath Thou Peter being conuerted shalt be a good example of pennance vnto all who notwithstanding thou hast bene an Apostle and denied me shalt receaue againe the primacy of all and gouerment of the whole world Oecumenus saith ſ in cap. 11 Act. Peter ariseth not Iames and is more feruent and as it were he to whome the superiotie of the Disciples was committed anno 1070. Hugo Etherianus siue Heretrianus anno 1540. in the tyme of Emanuel the Emperour writt certaine bookes of the proceeding of the holy Ghost against his Greekes wherin the saith t lib. 3. cap. 17. It is manifest euen by the thing it self that Christ did ordayne Peter and his successour prince and head not only of the latines and Greekes the west and north part of the world but also of the Armenians Arabians Iewes Medianites and all the East and middle climate for euer Of the Latine Fathers S. v lib. de●nitate Ecclesiae in epist ad Iubaianū Cyprian maketh Peter the head fountaine and roote of the whole church And in another place he saith of him wee hold him the head and roote of the church anno 240. Maximus saith x in 3. ser de Apostolis what great merit then had Peter with his Lord that after the rule of one little boate the gouerment of the whole church should be deliuered vnto him anno 420. Optatus anno 370. saith y lib. 2. cōtra Parmenianū The chaire is one and thou canst not denie but that thou knowest the chaire was graunted first vnto Peter in the Cittie of Rome where he did sitt head of all the Apostles being from thence called Cephas or rocke in whome only the vnitie of the chaire was maintained by all neither did the rest of the Apostles defend euery one his owne so that now he should be a Schismaticke and sinner that should place another a gainst this particuler chaire therefor the chaire is one which is the first of the dowries Peter did sitt the first in it Linus succeeded him and Clemens Linus c. Heere you may see the name of head and chaire of Peter and his successours to be named the only chaire of the whole church which were altogether vnheard of with Caluin S. Ambrose anno 280. z in ca. vlt. Lucae calleth Peter the vicar of the Loue of Christ to wardes vs and saith that he is placed ouer all And againe a in ca. 12. epist 2 ad Corinth not Andrew saith he but Peter receaued the Prama●y Behold againe a name vnheard of to Caluin And againe he saith b in cap 1. ad Vilat the care of the churches was commaunded to Peter by our Lord Finally he saith c Serm. 11. our Lord did ascend this only ship of the church in which Peter was constituted master our Lord saying vpon this rocke will I build my church which shipp doth slote so in the depth of that age that although the world perish yet it preserueth all whome it hath receaued whose figure wee haue seene already in the old testament for euen as Note Arcke when the world suffered ship wracke preserued all in safty whome it receaued so likewise the church of Peter whē the world shall burne shall presēt all whome it cōprehendeth safe and without harme as then the deluge falling away a doue brought the signe of peace to the arcke of Noe so also the last iudgment passing away Christ will bring the ioy of peace to the church of Peter S. Hierome saith d lib 1. in Io●●●●nā Anno 380. Amongst twelue one is chosen that a head being constituted occasion of Schisme might be taken away but why was not Iohn a virgin chosen it was bestowed vpon age for Peter was elder to th end that a young man and as yet almost a boy might not be ouer men of riper yeares S. Augustine saith e lib. 2. c● 1. de Baptismo Ano 400. I think saith he that Cyprian a Bishop may be compared to Peter an Apostle without any dishonour in as much as perteineth to the glorie of martyrdome but I thought rather to fear least I be thought contumelius against Peter for who doth not know that the primary of his Apostleship is to be preferred before any Bishopricke but although grace touching the chaires doe differ yet the glory of martyres is one And againe speaking of Peters prymacy saith f Serm. 124. de temp he healeth the disease of the whole body in the head of the church it self he worketh the health of all members in the very toppe c. The Author of the questions of the old and new testament saith g in tom 4 operum Augustini q 75. as in our Sauiour there were all causes of master shipp so after our Sauiour all are conteined in Peter for he constituted him their head that he might be the Pastour of our Lords flocke And a little beneath it is manifest saith he that all are conteined in Peter for asking for Peter he did vouchsafe to aske for all for the people are alwayes praysed or corrected in him that is put ouer them S. Leo saith h Serm. 3. de assumptione sua ad Pontificatum an 450. Peter is only chosen out of the whole world to be placed ouer the vocation of all gentles all Apostles and all fathers of the church that although therbe many Priestes and many Pastours yet Peter doth properly gouerne all whome Christ also doth principally rule And againe S Prosper saith i l. de ingratis anno 450. Rome the seat of Peter being made head of pastorall honour to the world whatsoeuer it doth not possesse by armes it holdeth by religion c. Arator saith of Peter k in capit 1. Actor to whome the lambe deliuered whatsoeuer sheeppe he had saued by this pastour through the whole world by which office he is become the chiefest c S. Gregorie saith l lib 4. epist ●2 ad Mauritiū anno 600. it is plaine to all that know the Ghospell that the care of
Areopagita to be the disciple of S. Paul and author of the heauenly or ecclesiasticall Hierarchie Luther saith c tom 2. wittemberg 1562. de captiu Babyl fol. 84. But thou wilt say saith Luther what say you to Dionysius who numbreth six Sacramentes c. I answere saith he I know this man only of the auncient Fathers to stand for the number of seuen Sacramentes although omitting matrimonie he graunt six only the same affirmeth M. D. Humfrey vbi supra c. pag. 519. M. Whitaker saith d de Sacra Scriptura pag. 655. I doe acknowledg that Dionysius is in many places a great patrone of traditions Concerning Hermes of whom mention is made by e Rom. 16 4. S. Pau● Hamelmanus saith f de trad Apost col 254. line 5● and col 7●0 l. 25. That impure booke of the pastour or of Hermes g●ue a good beginning to Popery which saith he the Fathers did esteeme for ecclesiasticall for in tymes past that booke of Hermes called the Pastour i Origenes li. 1. de principijs c. was numbred in the number of ecclesiasticall bookes the same confesseth g in Hooker l. 5. pag ●4 M. Hooker our countrey man in soe much as Hamelmanus saith h Hamel col 273. line 18 col 255. li 42 that book of the pastour saith he seemeth to be receaued by Irenaeus Clemeni and Origen and other Fathers but especially by Irenaeus Finally this booke saith k Hamel col 252. sine and 253. init and 254 line 8. see from col 250. Ha● layeth the ground worke of Purgatory prayer for the dead merit and iustification of workes of professed Chastity in ministers of fasting from certayne meates c. Abraham l Abr. Scult in medulla Theolog c. pag. 467. post med Scultetus saith it mainteneth free will monasticall life and solitude and Purgatory see this more at large and most perspicuous in the Protestants Apology for the Roman Church fol. 125. 126. THE 41. ARTICLE To shevv no beginning of a Doctrine is an infallible token that it is and proceedeth from the Apostles a in his defence against M. Cartwryght pag. 51. M. Whitgift lord Archbishop of Canterbury doth most learnedly and truly vrge this generall rule or proofe of Apostolicke Doctrine saying for as much as the originall and beginning of these names Metropolitan Archbishop c. such is their antiquity cannot be found so far as I haue read it is to be supposed they haue their originall from the Apostles them selues for as I remember b S. Austine epist 118. S. Austine hath the same rule in proofe of this rule he saith yet further c vbi supra pag. 352. It is of credit saith he with the wryters of our tyme namely with Zuinglius Caluin and Gualter and surely I thinke no learned man doth dissent from them M. Cartvvryght answereth to this rule d Ibid. that therby a window is openned to bringe in all popery agayne for I appeall saith he to the iudgment of all men if this be not to bring in Popery againe to allow of S. Austins sayng c. So euidently doe our learned aduersaries and the apparant probability of this rule approued also and allowed by e M. D. Field confirme and proue our fore said Catholicke religion wherto wee were soe many ages since conuerted to be not new or secondary since the Apostles tymes but truly primitiue and vndoubtedly Apostolyke that f in whit in resp ad Camp rat 7. pag 101. M. Whitaker confesseth that the tymes of the Roman Churches chaunge cannot easily be told g M Powell in his consideration of Papistes supplication pag. 43. M. Gabriell Povvell beinge prouoked that if our Catholicke Doctrine be an errour then to tell vs when this errour came in and who was the Author of it c. answereth Wee cannot tell by whome or at what tyme the enimy did sow it c. Neither indeed do wee know who was the first author of euery one of your blasphemous opinions c. In libro Apologetico c. pag 192. 193. Ioannes Regius being likwyse vrged to shew wherin the Roman Church hath chaunged her faith and not able to giue any one particuler example therof he be taketh him self to this extreame boldnes answering But last of all saith he if it were true that the Roman Church had neuer chaunged any thing in her religiō shall it therefor presently follow it is the true Church Out of all which is necessarily deduced that according to M. Whitgiftes foresaid rule and assertion whatsoeuer opynion is not knowne to haue begun since the Apostles tyme the same is not new or secondary but receaued it 's originall from the Apostles them selues as ours The Roman religion hath beene proued to haue done THE 42. ARTICLE True Miracles make a strong argument for the true faith and that the fore said faith vvherevnto the English vvere conuerted vvas confirmed by such miracles AS in the nonage or infancie of the Church our Sauiour did make manifest the truth of his Apostles Doctrine by vndoubted miracles to serue as signes of their Apostleship 2. Cor. 12.12 Marc. c. 16. v. 20. and to that end confirmed the word with signes following it so likewyse this virtue or power of Miracles did not cease but as our Aduersaries confesse alwayes shyne in the Church the necessity therof being one and the same in all succeeding ages to the conuersion of the heathen contemning the Scriptures are nothing moued with the miracles therin mentioned Wheras our Sauiour saith Iohn 14. v. 12. Hee that belieueth in me the workes that I do shall hee do and greater In the marginall notes of the English bible printed anno 1576. it is there vpon said This is referred to the whole body of the Church in whome this virtue doth shine for euer therfore they are not now to cease as some Protestantes affirme S. Irenaeus and S. Austine say S. Irenaeus lib 2. c. 18. S. Austine de ciuitate Do● lib. 22. cap. 1. Why say they are not those miracles which you preach to haue bene done now done certenly I might say they were necessarie before the world did belieue for this end that the world might belieue And a little after now also they are done in his name Miracles are through out the whole course of Scriptures both acknowledged and vrged Acknowledged in Exod. 8 19 and 3 of kinges 17 24 and cap. 18 19 and 4 of kinges 5 15 Matth. 14 25 33 and cap. 27 54 Iohn 2 23 and 3 2 and 4 53 and 9 30 and 11 45 Act. 4 14 16 and 9 35 Vrged Exodus 7 17 and 16 12 Num. 16 28 Iosue 10 16 and 3 of kinges 13 3 5 and 18 24 38 and 20 23 28 and 4 of kinges 20 8 9 10 Matth. 9 6 Marcke 2 10 Iohn 14 11 and 15 14 and 20 30 31. Yea Miracles were to our a Sauiour himself a greater
ouer bouldly referre them to the worke of the Diuell Wheras yet to the contrary M. Richard Hackluite preacher in his booke of principall Nauigations c. printed anno 1599. In the 2. part of the 2. vol. pag 88. i●iti● doubteth not to afford commendable mention of that holy man Xauerius his particuler vertues and wonderfull workes in that religion These few may suffice in this place see more at large and with full answere to all obiections in the Eleuenth note of the Church translated out of Card. Bellarm. into English THE 43. ARTICLE Our Aduersaries opposing Fathers against Fathers ansvveared NOw to answere our Aduersaries last shift and which they often vse in alledging Fathers against Fathers yea and the same father against himself where vpon occasion offered they speake somthing more obscure especially if there be not had due consideration of all circumstances inducing them there vnto I answere it is no marueil if they so handle the Fathers so much against them when they spare not theire owne and chiefe Doctours in making them say what they list for their purpose Witnes Luther who saith What shall I say In praefat in Smalcaldico● articulos extant in Luke Osiander epitome cent 16. pag. 253. and 254. how shall I complaine as yet I liue I wryte preach and teach publickly and dayly and yet there are enuious men not only of our aduersaries but also false brethren which say they agree with vs and yet dare bringe and bouldly alledge my owne writinges and Doctrine againe my self I yet liue seeing and hearing it although they know that I teach other wise and doe not stick to adorne their poyson with my labour c. what then will they doe after my death c. certenly I must answere to althinges whilst I yet liue c. de veritate Corporis Christian Cana pag. 76 77. Gerhardus G●eschenius s saith they endeuour to make the Augustan confession which teacheth the reall presence to be Zuinglian that is against the reall presence wherfore exclayming he saith further if this had bene done in Arabia Armenia Sardinia or such like remote countryes and of former tymes this vsurpation of fraud and Historicall falshood were more tolerable But seeing say they the question is of such thinges as are done in our owne tymes and in the sight of all men whoe with a quiet mynd can indure such lyes This may suffice to shew our Aduersaries corruption in detorting vnto a wrong sense the obscure places of the Fathers But let vs as well in reading them as the holy Scriptures or such like writinges follow the aduise of S. Chrysostome who exhorting the more learned sort to the reading of holy Scriptures which other wyse were very much giuen to idle playes and gameing saith Take the book into thy hand Homil. 3. de Lazaro read the whole history and those thinges which are easie keepe in memory and which are obscure and not manifest read often And if thou canst not by diligence in reading vnderstand what is said approch vnto the wyser goe vnto the Doctour Homil. 3. in 2 ad Thessalon Againe What obscuritie is that saith he speak I pray are they not histories thou knowest that which is cleare and euident what hast thou to doe with obscurities yea in places that be dubious or obscure In Epist Theolog. epist 82. pag. 382. the aduise of Beza is not to be misliked who in his answere to na obiectiō out of Caluin saith places of one and the same writer ought often tymes to be compared together that it may plainly beseeme what was his meaning and opynion because all thinges cannot nor ought not to be spoken in all places although it be of one and thesame thinge THE 44. ARTICLE Our Aduersaries generall abiuring the Fathers and condemning their Doctrine M. Whitakers saith contra Duraeum l. 6. pag. 423. lib. de vitae Iuell● printedat londo● pag. 212. M. Fulk in his retentiue against Bristow pag. 55. The Popish religion is a patched couerled of the Fathers errours sowed to gether M. D Humf●e did earnestly reprehend M. Iuell for his so bould appealing to the Fathers affirming therfore of Ievvell that herin he gaue the Papistes to large a scope was iniurious to himself and after a manner spoyled himself and the Church thesame also saith M. Fulk a in Sciatagematum Satanae l. 6. pag. 296. Iacobus ●scontius a learned Protestant saith of Protestantes alledging the Fathers that some haue gon so farre as they haue euen filled all thinges againe with the Fathers and their authorities which I would to God saith he they had done with as good successe as they began it with good hope c. certenly I thinke this custome most pernitious and by al means to be avoyded c. Luther saith tom ● wittember anno 1551. lib. de seruo arbitrio pag. 434. in Ionam The Fathers of so many ages haue bene plainly blind most ignorāt in the Scriptures haue erred saith he all their life tyme so that vnlesse they were amended before their death they were neither Saintes saith he nor perteyning to the Church Pomeran a learned Protestant saith Our Forefathers whether holy or not holy I care not were all blinded with a Montanicall spirit by humane traditions and Doctrine of Diuells c. Beza in his praef vpon the new test dedicat to the prince of Condy anno 1587. they do not saith he teach purely iustification c. neither were they indeed carefull to teach Iesus Christ truly in their ghospell Beza affirmeth that euen in the best tymes the ambition ignorance and leudnes of Bishops was such that the very blind may easily preceaue how that Sathan was present and did sit ouer their assembles and Councells M. Whitaker saith b l. de Antichristo pag. 21. M. Cartwright in his 2. reply part 2. pag. 508. Peter Mar●●n his comm place in English part 4. pag 255. Caluin in omnes Pauli epistolas ad Hebr. c. 7. v. 9 pag. 924. and de vera eccles reforma pag. ●89 Danaeus disput part 1 pag 116. W. whit contra Duraeum l. 8. pag 567. and 773. cent 2. c. 4. col 58. l. ●0 and cēt 3. c. 4 col 77. 78. and col 48 line 15. Schult in medulla Theol. Patrum p 39. 304 466. 151. 105 98. 48. 66. 73. and 40 that as in this so in many other thinges they erred M. Cartvvright saith That diuerse of the most auncient and chiefest of them fondly imagined of Antichrist as of one singuler person Peter Martyr reproueth the Fathers in generall saying The Fathers should not with so much libertie haue seemed heere and there so to abuse the name Aulter Caluin with The auncient writers cannot be excused for as much as it is manifest that they haue declined from the pure and true institution of Christ Bellarmine alledging the Greeke and Latine Fathers in proofe of Lymbus Patrum Danaeus answering him saith
saith of vs they indeed set forth their Churches very gloriously c. they report out of Irenaeus sect 3. Tertullian Origen Augustine and others how highly they esteemed this succession Considering saith he it was a matter out of all doubt that from the beginnig euen vntill that tyme nothing was changed in doctrine the foresaid holy Doctors tooke in argument that which was sufficient for the ouer throwing of all new errours to witt In his institutions in frēch printed at Geneua by Conradus ●adius anno 2562. that they viz. heretickes oppugned the doctrine which euen from the very Apostles thēselues had bine inuiolable and with one cōsent retayned Againe It was a thing notorious saith he with out doubt that after the Apostles age vntill those forsaid tymes no chaung was made ●n Doctrine neither in Rome nor many other citties So plainly do our learned aduersaries cōfesse that no chāg of faith was made by the Roman church from the Apostles age vnto the tymes after S. Austine c. being as I said 400. yeeres after Christ To proue that to charge heretickes with the succession of Roman Bishops meintayning alwayes one and the same faith was the practise and custome of those auncient Fathers is a labour saued being already so liberally confessed but for better satisfaction receaue this one saying of S. Hierome in Apolog. 2 Adu Ruffinum demaunding of Ruffinus saying how doth he call his faith that which the Roman church teacheth if he answere the Roman then wee are Catholickes The church being thus acknowledged to haue continued the first 400. yeares after Christ in all purity it shal be easie to proue that from thence vnto the six hundreth yeere the tyme when the Roman church should fall the same doctrine was lykewise continued and so receaued by Gregory the first then Pope of Rome and by him brought and receaued by vs and vnto this day still retayned This I say is made euident by our learned aduersaries hauing already confessed that sundry euen of the chiefest articles of our faith as the Reale presence sacrifice freewill c. as is already in particuler handled so to conclude where as they say the church of Rome fell but they cannot tell when is very absurd when as yet ther was neuer any other heresie or memorable acte whatsoeuer either ecclesiasticall or temporall but they cā decypher all circumstances as the dissent of the Greeke church from the Roman but not the Roman from the primitiue Vincentius Lyrinensis saith l. Aduer haer cap. 34. certenly there was neuer yet any heresie but it was knowne to be gine vnder some certeyn name in a certeyn place and at a certeyn tyme in his consider of Papistes supplications pag 43. But for the Roman Catholicke religion now professed M. Powell saith he cannot tell by whome or at what tyme the enemy did sow it THE 46. ARTICLE The Catholicke or Roman faith novv taught is acknovvledged by protestantes for sufficient vnto saluation 〈◊〉 2. 〈◊〉 ●●7 〈…〉 in his epist printed ouer 〈…〉 5● M. Baro in his 4. sermōs and 2. questions d●puted ad clorū c. Ser 3 p. 44. M. Hooker l. 5 de eccles Pol. pag. 111. 130. M. Bunny in his treatise of pacification 〈◊〉 18. pag. 109. and 113. M D Some as he is cyted pag. 164 182. 17● A Protestant preacher preaching at Peterborrovv at the funerall of one who dyed a professed Papist viz the Queene of Scotts he prayed that his soule and the soules of all there present might be with the soule of the Dead Papist M. D. Baro. saith I dare not deny the name of Christians to the Romanists sith the more learned w●yter do acknowledge the church of Rome to be the church of God M. Hooker saith The church of Rome is to be reputed a part of the h●wse of God a lymne of the visible church of Christ Yea wee gladly acknowledge them to be of the family of Iesus Christ M Bunny lykewise saith of Catholickes and protestantes neither of vs saith he may iustly accompt the other to be none of the church of God yea wee are no seuerall church from them nor they from vs. M D. Some in his defence against M. Pen●y the Puritan and ref●tation of many absurdities c. in M P●n● treatise saith The Papists are not altogether aliens from Gods couenant as I haue shewed before for in the iudgment of all learned men and all ●e●ormed churches there is in Popery a church a ministery a true Christ c. if you thinke saith he that all the Popish sort which died in the Popish church are damned you thinke absurdly and dissent from the iudgment of the learned protestantes M. D. Field saith wee doubt not but the church M. D Field de Eccles lib 3. cap. 46. line pag. 182. wherin the Bishop of Rome with more then Lucifer lyke pryde exalted himself was notwithstanding the true church of Christ that it held a sauing profession of the truth in Christ and by force or vertue thereof did conuert many from errour c. M. D. M. Morton in his treatise of the kingdome of Israel and of the church pag● 94. Peter Mar. in his epist annexed to his cōm places in English pag. 153. M. D. Couell as he is cy●●d pag 77 Thomas Morton affirmeth in expresse wordes that Papistes are to be accounted of the church of God because saith he they hold the foundation of ths ghospell which is faith in Christ Iesus the sonne of God and Sauiour of the world Peter Martyr desired at the conference had at Poysy betvvene the Catholickes and the protestantes that they should not for diuersity of opinion breake brotherly charity or call one the other heretickes Lastly M. D. Couell in his defence of M. Hookers fiue bookes of Ecclesiasticall Policy published by authority dedicated to the Lord Archbishop of Canterbury defendeth this opinion at large and concludeth saying wee affirme that they of the church of Rome are a part of the church of Christ and that such as liue and dye in that church may not withstāding be saued pag. 61. In so much as he doubteth not to charge the Puritans with ignorance for their contrary opinion THE 47. ARTICLE A testimonie from the enemie is of greatest accompt FOr as much as our learned aduersaries do affirme that it is a great peece of worke to conuince the aduersary from himself for a more full satisfaction wee thinke it not a misse to make vse of this argument also de Eccles l. 3 c 47. initio pag. 182. M. D. Field therfore saith The next note wherby Bellarmine endeauoreth to proue the Romish sinagogue to be the true church of God is our owne confession Surely if he can proue that wee confesse it to be the church he needeth not vse any other argumentes de Eccles controu 2. quaest 5. cap 24. pag. 366. M. D. Whitaker saith the argument must