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10._o chap._n that_o she_o retain_v life_n and_o that_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n ought_v no_o more_o to_o be_v deny_v to_o she_o than_o the_o name_n of_o a_o man_n unto_o a_o live_a man_n bucan_n in_o his_o 41._o place_n of_o the_o church_n quest_n 5_o the_o assembly_n of_o papist_n be_v church_n as_o a_o man_n infect_v with_o leprosy_n or_o beside_o his_o wit_n do_v not_o leave_v to_o be_v a_o man_n polanus_fw-la in_o his_o first_o part_n and_o thesis_n of_o the_o church_n the_o roman_a church_n true_o be_v a_o church_n because_o antichrist_n sit_v in_o the_o church_n and_o in_o his_o syntagme_n of_o divinity_n lib._n 7._o c._n 8_o the_o present_a roman_a church_n be_v yet_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n seravia_n in_o his_o defence_n of_o the_o degree_n of_o minister_n pag._n 30_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v a_o church_n and_o mark_v what_o i_o say_v more_o she_o be_v our_o mother_n in_o who_o and_o by_o who_o god_n do_v regenerate_v us._n and_o pag._n 31_o the_o covenant_n of_o god_n remain_v this_o day_n in_o the_o latin_a church_n boysseul_n in_o his_o confutation_n of_o spondé_n pag._n 6_o i_o exclude_v not_o the_o roman_a church_n out_o of_o the_o universal_a church_n i_o acknowledge_v she_o to_o be_v yet_o in_o the_o covenant_n of_o god_n which_o he_o repeat_v oftentimes_o and_o pag._n 12_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v the_o church_n of_o god_n pag._n 19_o it_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n p._n 283_o it_o be_v yet_o the_o church_n spouse_n and_o temple_n of_o god_n god_n yet_o the_o church_n spouse_n &_o temple_n of_o god_n and_o pag._n 822_o we_o deny_v not_o that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v the_o church_n of_o jesus_n christ_n redeem_v by_o he_o vorstius_n in_o his_o anti-bellarmin_a p._n 188_o the_o vulgar_a roman_a church_n have_v not_o yet_o lose_v all_o spiritual_a life_n be_v not_o yet_o open_o divorce_v from_o christ_n and_o peter_n martyr_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o bullinger_n write_v alive_a yet_o alive_a that_o he_o 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c._n 37._o pag._n 355_o i_o never_o deny_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n of_o god_n wherein_o our_o ancestor_n profess_v the_o truth_n and_o be_v save_v and_o cap._n 41._o pag._n 408_o profess_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n itself_o in_o all_o age_n to_o have_v be_v the_o visible_a church_n of_o god_n last_o d._n hall_n in_o his_o rome_n irreconciliable_a sect_n 1._o say_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v a_o true_a visible_a church_n but_o not_o sound_v and_o that_o it_o differ_v from_o the_o protestant_a church_n at_o the_o sick_a from_o the_o whole_a hereto_o i_o add_v that_o oftentimes_o they_o call_v the_o roman_a church_n their_o mother_n which_o have_v bear_v they_o to_o christ_n as_o we_o shall_v rehearse_v hereafter_o
man_n sonis_fw-la respon_n ad_fw-la spondeum_fw-la c._n 10._o pag._n 365._o heretic_n be_v within_o the_o church_n lubbert_n lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 3_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o heretic_n be_v some_o as_o yet_o in_o the_o visible_a church_n some_o also_o in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o elect_a junius_n lib._n 3._o de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 4_o heretic_n absolute_o be_v of_o the_o church_n unless_o they_o be_v such_o as_o overthrow_v fundamental_a article_n of_o religion_n â—â—_o cap._n 3_o n._n â—â—_o bullinger_n teach_v the_o same_o decad._n 2._o serm_n 8._o and_o it_o be_v the_o common_a doctrine_n of_o the_o protestant_n who_o as_o be_v before_o prove_v exclude_v none_o from_o be_v member_n of_o their_o church_n that_o deny_v only_o such_o article_n as_o be_v not_o fundamental_a howbeit_o some_o of_o they_o upon_o heretical_a privilege_n as_o tertullian_n speak_v will_v not_o have_v such_o call_v heretic_n â—5_n lib._n de_fw-fr carne_fw-la coâ—isti_fw-la cap._n â—5_n be_v indeed_o more_o ashamed_a of_o the_o name_n then_o of_o the_o thing_n itself_o zanchius_n likewise_o lib._n 1._o epist_n ad_fw-la dudit_fw-la pag._n 150._o say_v that_o heretical_a and_o schismatical_a sect_n be_v within_o the_o church_n tilenus_n in_o syntag._n disput_fw-la 14_o heretic_n even_o those_o that_o subvert_v the_o foundation_n and_o schismatic_o in_o regard_n of_o outward_a communion_n be_v in_o the_o church_n till_o either_o of_o themselves_o they_o go_v to_o the_o enemy_n side_n or_o be_v cast_v out_o by_o the_o lawful_a judgement_n of_o the_o church_n and_o d._n feild_n in_o his_o first_o book_n of_o the_o church_n cap_n 14_o see_v god_n give_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n and_o the_o dispensation_n of_o his_o word_n and_o sacrament_n only_o to_o his_o church_n if_o heretic_n be_v not_o of_o the_o church_n they_o do_v not_o then_o baptize_v and_o cap._n 7_o they_o that_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o heavenly_a call_n and_o sanctify_v by_o the_o profession_n of_o divine_a truth_n and_o the_o use_n of_o the_o mean_n of_o salvation_n be_v of_o very_o diverse_a sort_n as_o heretic_n schismatik_n hypocrite_n and_o those_o that_o profess_v the_o whole_a save_a truth_n in_o unity_n and_o sincerity_n of_o a_o good_a and_o sanctify_a heart_n all_o these_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o heavenly_a call_n and_o sanctify_v by_o the_o profession_n of_o truth_n and_o consequent_o be_v all_o in_o some_o degree_n and_o sort_n of_o that_o society_n of_o man_n who_o god_n call_v out_o unto_o himself_o &_o separate_v from_o infidel_n which_o be_v right_o name_v the_o church_n d._n whitaker_n contr_n 4._o quest_n 5._o c._n 3._o pag_n 679_o all_o heretic_n be_v within_o the_o church_n hooker_n in_o his_o 3._o book_n of_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n pag._n 128_o we_o must_v acknowledge_v even_o heretic_n themselves_o to_o be_v though_o a_o maim_a part_n yet_o a_o part_n of_o a_o visible_a church_n again_o if_o a_o infidel_n shall_v pursue_v to_o death_n a_o heretic_n 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profession_n such_o be_v heretic_n schismatic_o etc._n etc._n touch_v their_o acceptation_n of_o schismatik_n beside_o what_o have_v be_v already_o allege_v d._n feild_n in_o his_o first_o book_n of_o the_o church_n cap._n 13._o write_v thus_o schismatik_n they_o challenge_v schismatik_n the_o departure_n of_o schismatic_o be_v not_o such_o but_o that_o notwithstanding_o their_o schism_n they_o be_v and_o remain_v part_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n junius_n in_o the_o place_n before_o quote_v lay_v claim_n to_o those_o schismatic_n who_o say_v he_o sever_v not_o themselves_o from_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o only_o from_o a_o part_n thereof_o but_o d._n mortoâ—_n in_o the_o 1._o part_n of_o his_o apology_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 2._o say_v absolute_o without_o any_o acception_n or_o restraint_n at_o all_o schismatik_n be_v of_o the_o church_n and_o lib._n 2._o cap._n 10._o pag._n 288_o variance_n say_v he_o and_o schism_n do_v not_o betoken_v the_o false_a church_n and_o d._n willet_n in_o his_o synopsis_n cont_n 2._o quest_n 3._o pag._n 104_o we_o say_v that_o schismatik_n though_o they_o hold_v some_o false_a point_n of_o doctrine_n yet_o if_o their_o error_n be_v not_o fundamental_a and_o if_o they_o retain_v the_o purity_n of_o doctrine_n in_o all_o point_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n and_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n may_v make_v a_o particular_a church_n by_o themselves_o these_o be_v their_o acknowledgement_n touch_v heretic_n and_o schismatic_n in_o general_n grecian_n they_o acknowledge_v the_o grecian_n let_v we_o now_o descend_v to_o particularity_n and_o see_v the_o courteous_a admission_n they_o give_v to_o some_o of_o they_o by_o name_n 8._o the_o grecian_n and_o other_o eastern_a schismatik_n yea_o heretic_n to_o for_o the_o most_o part_n find_v that_o favour_n at_o their_o hand_n as_o they_o vouchsafe_v to_o account_v they_o member_n of_o their_o church_n his_o majesty_n epist_n ad_fw-la card._n peron_n pa._n 13_o have_v thus_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n greece_n antioch_n egypt_n aethiopia_n muscovy_n and_o other_o more_o be_v member_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n d._n whiâ—e_v in_o defence_n of_o his_o way_n c._n 37._o pag._n 355_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o greece_n aethiope_n armenia_n and_o rome_n with_o the_o nation_n contain_v therein_o have_v in_o they_o the_o true_a church_n of_o god_n wherein_o man_n may_v be_v save_v d._n morton_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o protestant_n apology_n lib._n 4._o cap._n 2._o sect_n 7._o say_v that_o the_o assyrian_a church_n keep_v the_o true_a foundation_n of_o christian_a faith_n the_o same_o especial_o of_o the_o grecian_n teach_v luther_n tom_n 2._o lib._n de_fw-fr captiu_fw-la babylon_n fol._n 65._o &_o in_o assert_v art_n 37._o fol._n 114._o innius_n cont_n 4_o lib._n 4._o cap._n 6._o sedeel_n respon_n ad_fw-la thes_n posnan_n cap._n 12._o d._n whitaker_n lâ—b_n 7._o cont_n duraeum_n sect_n 3._o bucanus_n loco_fw-la 41._o quest_n 5_o d._n feild_n lib._n 3._o de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 5._o &_o 28._o d._n fulke_o de_fw-fr success_n pag._n 120._o burhill_n pro_fw-la tortura_fw-la torti_n c._n 15._o and_o other_o 9_o and_o sometime_o they_o be_v not_o less_o freeharted_n towards_o western_a heretic_n melancthon_n in_o locis_fw-la à _fw-it maulio_fw-it editiâ—tit_fw-la de_fw-fr eccles_n pag._n 491._o write_v that_o two_o girl_n who_o be_v burn_v as_o he_o say_v for_o anabaptisme_n anabaptist_n they_o challenge_v the_o anabaptist_n hold_v the_o foundation_n of_o say_v and_o die_v in_o a_o good_a confession_n and_o zuinglius_fw-la tom_n 2._o lib._n the_o author_n sedit_fw-la fol._n 134._o &_o seq_fw-la exhort_v his_o fellower_n not_o to_o revolt_v from_o his_o doctrine_n for_o the_o debate_n and_o quarrel_n between_o the_o protestant_n and_o the_o anabaptist_n call_v both_o part_n most_o learned_a and_o son_n of_o the_o same_o father_n neither_o must_v thou_o say_v he_o give_v any_o man_n way_n to_o shake_v and_o weakeâ—_n thy_o say_v although_o thou_o see_v that_o man_n of_o the_o great_a learning_n move_v dispute_n and_o fall_v by_o the_o care_n with_o much_o eagerness_n of_o contention_n touch_v external_a matter_n he_o mean_v baptism_n but_o let_v this_o be_v rather_o thy_o steadfast_a persuasion_n that_o by_o the_o son_n of_o god_n we_o be_v all_o make_v son_n of_o the_o same_o father_n again_o neither_o be_o i_o wont_a to_o speak_v these_o thing_n for_o that_o i_o be_o so_o great_o move_v with_o the_o baptism_n of_o child_n and_o ibidem_fw-la lib._n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la fol._n 96._o he_o say_v that_o baptism_n be_v a_o matter_n of_o ceremony_n which_o the_o church_n may_v omit_v or_o take_v quite_o away_o oecolampadius_n in_o his_o 2._o book_n of_o epistle_n p._n 363._o say_v baptism_n be_v a_o external_a thing_n which_o by_o the_o law_n of_o charity_n may_v be_v dispense_v withal_o and_o musculus_fw-la in_o locis_fw-la do_fw-mi de_fw-fr haeresi_fw-la pag._n 605._o reckon_v the_o anabaptist_n among_o those_o who_o
church_n we_o define_v to_o be_v a_o congregation_n of_o man_n among_o who_o the_o word_n be_v true_o preach_v and_o the_o sacrament_n administer_v such_o a_o church_n have_v not_o always_o be_v neither_o can_v we_o be_v assure_v that_o it_o shall_v always_o be_v sound_a upon_o the_o earth_n there_o be_v a_o time_n when_o as_o the_o visible_a church_n fail_v upon_o earth_n fail_v the_o visible_a church_n fail_v this_o invisibility_n of_o the_o protestant_a church_n which_o i_o have_v hitherto_o prove_v by_o their_o manifold_a confession_n i_o will_v also_o prove_v by_o sequels_fw-fr out_n of_o other_o their_o say_n first_o therefore_o d._n morton_n in_o his_o apology_n part_n 1._o book_n 1._o cap._n 31._o dislike_v not_o these_o word_n of_o bellarmine_n protestant_n when_o they_o say_v the_o church_n can_v fail_v or_o perish_v mean_v the_o invisibible_a church_n and_o many_o of_o they_o in_o express_a word_n deny_v that_o the_o promise_n of_o perpetuity_n church_n protestant_n say_v the_o promise_n belong_v not_o to_o the_o visible_a church_n which_o in_o the_o scripture_n be_v make_v unto_o the_o church_n math._n 16._o and_o other_o where_o be_v make_v to_o the_o visible_a church_n d._n whitaker_n cont._n 2._o quest_n 3._o cap._n 3._o pag._n 468_o it_o be_v most_o false_a that_o it_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n against_o which_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v and_o daneus_n cont._n 4._o lib._n 3._o cap._n 13._o pag._n 717_o there_o math._n 16._o be_v not_o mean_v the_o visible_a church_n to_o who_o assent_v d._n willet_n in_o his_o synopsis_n cont_n 2._o quest_n 2._o m._n powell_n of_o antichrist_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 10._o beurlin_n in_o his_o refutation_n of_o sotus_n cap._n 53._o moulins_n of_o the_o vocation_n of_o minister_n lib._n 1._o c._n 4._o &_o in_o his_o bucklet_n part_n 1._o pag._n 49._o and_o d._n morton_n lib._n cit_fw-la cap._n 13._o add_v that_o those_o three_o place_n math._n 16._o &_o ult._n and_o psal_n 47._o which_o promise_v the_o perpetuity_n of_o the_o church_n church_n protestant_n believe_v not_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v every_o one_o of_o they_o understand_v almost_o by_o every_o father_n of_o the_o only_a company_n of_o the_o elect_a which_o the_o protestant_n call_v the_o invisible_a church_n beside_o they_o all_o general_o teach_v that_o by_o the_o catholic_a church_n which_o they_o profess_v to_o believe_v in_o the_o creed_n they_o mean_v not_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o only_o the_o invisible_a luther_n in_o his_o book_n of_o abrogate_a mass_n tom_fw-mi 2._o fol._n 247_o who_o shall_v show_v we_o the_o holy_a church_n see_v it_o be_v hide_v in_o spirit_n and_o be_v only_o believe_v according_a as_o i_o believe_v the_o holy_a church_n zuinglius_fw-la in_o his_o explication_n of_o the_o 31._o article_n the_o church_n which_o consist_v of_o those_o which_o be_v know_v to_o god_n alone_o in_o that_o which_o we_o profess_v in_o the_o article_n of_o our_o creed_n danaeus_n lib._n cit_fw-la pag._n 713_o the_o question_n be_v of_o the_o true_a church_n of_o god_n whereof_o it_o be_v say_v in_o the_o creed_n i_o believe_v the_o holy_a church_n bellarmine_n will_v have_v it_o to_o be_v the_o visible_a we_o deny_v it_o the_o like_a he_o say_v pag._n 789._o 717._o 718._o and_o 725._o vorstius_n in_o his_o antibellarm_n pag._n 144_o we_o profess_v not_o in_o the_o creed_n to_o believe_v the_o visible_a church_n but_o the_o invisible_a d._n whitaker_n lib._n 3._o against_o duraeus_n sect_n ult_fw-ge you_o see_v what_o catholic_a church_n we_o believe_v not_o the_o visible_a multitude_n of_o christian_n but_o the_o holy_a company_n of_o the_o elect_a the_o same_o he_o say_v cont._n 2._o quest_n 2._o cap._n 2._o brentius_n in_o prolegominis_n pag._n 2._o and_o other_o common_o furthermore_o they_o say_v that_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v not_o the_o true_a church_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n for_o caluin_n in_o his_o 4._o book_n of_o institution_n cap._n 1._o §_o 7._o god_n they_o say_v the_o visible_a church_n be_v not_o the_o true_a church_n before_o god_n and_o the_o rest_n grant_v that_o both_o wicked_a and_o reprobate_a christian_n may_v be_v of_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o deny_v that_o they_o can_v be_v of_o the_o true_a church_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n now_o sure_o if_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v neither_o the_o true_a church_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n nor_o she_o to_o who_o he_o have_v promise_v perpetuity_n nor_o she_o which_o protestant_n do_v believe_v what_o reason_n can_v they_o have_v to_o believe_v that_o the_o visible_a church_n shall_v always_o remain_v or_o which_o be_v all_o one_o that_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v always_o visible_a again_o their_o common_a doctrine_n be_v that_o preach_v of_o true_a doctrine_n be_v the_o note_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n for_o so_o teach_v the_o confession_n of_o auspurg_n cap._n 7._o the_o english_a confession_n artic_a 19_o and_o all_o the_o rest_n to_o which_o his_o majesty_n in_o his_o epist_n to_o cardinal_n peron_n d._n whitaker_n contr._n 2._o q_o 5._o c._n 17._o d._n morton_n part_n 1._o apol._n l._n 1._o c._n 6._o m._n willet_n in_o his_o synopsis_n cont._n 2._o quest_n 3._o pag._n 102._o sadeel_n to_o turtians_n sophism_n loc_fw-la 5._o vorstius_n in_o antibellarm_n pag._n 145._o and_o other_o do_v add_v that_o it_o be_v a_o essential_a note_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o they_o must_v say_v so_o because_o they_o use_v to_o define_v the_o visible_a church_n to_o be_v a_o company_n wherein_o the_o pure_a word_n of_o god_n be_v preach_v &_o the_o sacrament_n right_o administer_v for_o so_o it_o be_v define_v of_o the_o english_a confession_n and_o of_o sadeel_n lib._n cit_fw-la of_o whitaker_n quest_n 5._o cit_fw-la cap._n 20._o of_o melancthon_n tom_n 1._o in_o cap._n 15._o matth._n and_o of_o other_o general_o but_o before_o luther_n there_o be_v no_o preach_n of_o protestantisme_n as_o we_o shall_v hear_v they_o confess_v cap._n 7._o therefore_o there_o be_v then_o no_o visible_a protestant_n church_n final_o sometime_o they_o say_v that_o not_o only_o preach_v of_o the_o word_n but_o that_o also_o a_o lawful_a ministry_n or_o that_o not_o only_o what_o true_a preach_n soever_o but_o also_o such_o as_o be_v make_v by_o a_o lawful_a minister_n of_o the_o word_n be_v of_o the_o essence_n and_o substance_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n for_o thus_o write_v d._n whitaker_n cont._n 2._o q._n 5._o cap._n 19_o pag._n 550_o stapleton_n say_v that_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n by_o lawful_a minister_n be_v the_o proper_a note_n of_o the_o church_n and_o we_o say_v no_o otherwise_o and_n pag._n 551._o that_o he_o confess_v true_a preach_n by_o a_o lawful_a ministry_n to_o be_v a_o note_n of_o the_o church_n be_v no_o other_o thing_n then_o that_o we_o say_v and_o defend_v the_o like_a have_v sadeel_n in_o the_o place_n now_o cite_v and_o the_o swisser_n confession_n cap._n 17._o put_v lawful_a preach_n for_o the_o chief_a note_n of_o the_o church_n caluin_n 4._o institut_fw-la cap._n 2._o §_o 1._o for_o a_o perpetual_a note_n &_o the_o conclusion_n defend_v at_o geneva_n pag._n 845._o for_o a_o essential_a note_n thereof_o but_o before_o luther_n there_o be_v no_o protestant_a minister_n at_o all_o as_o we_o shall_v hereafter_o hear_v the_o protestant_n confess_v therefore_o no_o visible_a protestant_n church_n 8._o by_o that_o which_o have_v be_v rehearse_v it_o be_v manifest_a confession_n sum_z of_o the_o foresay_a confession_n that_o very_o many_o and_o very_o famous_a protestant_n have_v often_o and_o plain_o confess_v that_o when_o luther_n come_v first_o as_o they_o speak_v to_o the_o gospel_n the_o protestant_a church_n and_o religion_n be_v not_o visible_a say_v hide_v lurk_v lie_v in_o the_o wilderness_n in_o lurk_a hole_n indarknesse_n in_o trophonius_n his_o den_n be_v bury_v be_v unknown_a unheard_a of_o appear_v to_o none_o can_v not_o be_v discern_v her_o image_n can_v not_o be_v see_v no_o show_n of_o beside_o a_o huge_a spoil_n do_v appear_v no_o face_n no_o fashion_n no_o trace_n of_o she_o be_v extant_a and_o she_o be_v so_o hide_v that_o he_o who_o will_v judge_v according_a to_o the_o outward_a show_n will_v think_v she_o to_o be_v no_o where_o and_o that_o this_o be_v so_o manifest_a as_o that_o the_o experience_n of_o many_o age_n bear_v witness_v thereof_o with_o what_o word_n i_o pray_v you_o can_v they_o say_v that_o their_o church_n be_v altogether_o invisible_a if_o they_o have_v not_o say_v it_o in_o these_o 9_o moreover_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o for_o to_o maintain_v their_o invisible_a church_n they_o do_v teach_v that_o the_o church_n may_v be_v unknown_a to_o the_o godly_a &_o to_o those_o who_o be_v of_o it_o that_o it_o may_v be_v not_o visible_a not_o appear_v not_o
93._o 238._o 488._o 493._o 493._o tom_n 3._o fol._n 555_o tom_n 5._o fol._n 290._o tom_n 6._o fol._n 79._o and_o other_o where_o often_o second_o it_o arise_v that_o true_a protestancie_n be_v call_v lutheran_n doctrine_n the_o lutheran_n cause_n the_o lutheran_n religion_n lutheran_n protestant_n term_v themselves_o lutheran_n the_o lutheran_n business_n and_o lutheranisme_n of_o luther_n himself_o tom_n 2._o fol._n 37._o and_o 497._o of_o frederick_n the_o electour_n tom_fw-mi 1_o lutheri_fw-la fol._n 237._o of_o his_o counsellor_n tom_n 2._o fol._n 116._o of_o the_o divine_v of_o mansfeld_n in_o schusselburg_n tom_n 8._o pag._n 270._o of_o schusselburg_n himself_o epist_n dedicat_fw-la tom_fw-mi 4._o of_o melancthon_n tom_n 2._o lutheri_fw-la fol._n 193._o 197._o of_o kemmice_n epist_n dedicat_fw-la lib._n de_fw-fr duabus_fw-la naturis_fw-la of_o hutter_n in_o analysi_fw-la confess_v august_n pag._n 595._o of_o brunsfelse_a respon_n ad_fw-la spongiam_fw-la erasmi_n or_o lobeenâ—us_o in_o epist_n dedicat_fw-la disput_fw-la oâ—_n george_n fabritius_n l_o b._n 1_n &_o 8._o orig._n saxon._n and_o of_o other_o lutheran_n and_o in_o like_a manner_n of_o sacramenttary_n also_o as_o of_o bucer_n in_o matth._n 26._o &_o lib._n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la animorum_fw-la pag._n 261._o of_o hospin_n prefat_n part_n 2_o histor_n of_o scultere_fw-la con._n saecular_a of_o d._n morton_n 1._o part_n apol._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 45._o and_o other_o three_o thereof_o proceed_v that_o the_o true_a and_o proper_a protestant_n be_v call_v lutheran_n both_o of_o themselves_o and_o of_o other_o for_o thus_o speak_v luther_n in_o psalm_n 118._o tom_n 7._o fol._n 551_o i_o grant_v myself_o to_o be_v a_o lutheran_n and_o in_o like_a manner_n speak_v he_o ibidem_fw-la fol._n 79._o 242._o 233._o 361._o &_o 400._o and_o tom_n 2._o fol._n 473._o and_o in_o hospin_n part_n 2._o fol._n 134._o so_o also_o speak_v melancthon_n in_o dominicam_fw-la 8._o trinit_fw-la tom_fw-mi 1._o and_o in_o hospin_n lib._n cit_fw-la fol._n 72._o and_o brentius_n also_o ibid._n fol._n 107._o so_o speak_v the_o confession_n of_o saxony_n in_o the_o preface_n and_o the_o saxon_a minister_n in_o the_o conference_n of_o aldburg_n pag._n 60._o vrban_n regius_n in_o judicio_fw-la de_fw-la conuentu_fw-la norimberg_n pag._n 9_o amsdorse_v in_o bucer_n in_o scriptis_fw-la anglicis_fw-la p._n 635._o matheus_n index_n in_o edicto_fw-la aeterni_fw-la dei_fw-la james_n andrew_n in_fw-la colloq_fw-la montisbel_n pag._n 179._o yea_o graver_n in_o the_o preface_n of_o his_o caluinisticall_a absurdity_n dedicate_v his_o book_n unto_o the_o proper_a lutheran_n and_o pag._n 61._o affirm_v that_o their_o man_n be_v call_v lutheran_n that_o they_o may_v be_v distinguish_v from_o papist_n and_o caluinist_n scusselburg_n tom_n 17._o catal._n pag._n 866._o say_v the_o divines_n of_o our_o part_n call_v themselves_o and_o the_o defender_n of_o their_o opinion_n lutheran_n which_o also_o affirm_v reineccius_n tom_n 1._o armat_fw-la cap._n ult._n hutten_n in_o expostulat_fw-la cum_fw-la erasm_n say_v i_o acknowledge_v the_o name_n of_o lutheran_n and_o hailbruner_n we_o be_v not_o ashamed_a of_o the_o name_n and_o andrew_n schafman_n in_o prodromo_fw-la bring_v many_o reason_n to_o prove_v that_o they_o do_v well_o in_o call_v themselves_o lutheran_n and_o those_o of_o berga_n as_o hospin_n report_v in_o concord_n discord_n c._n 20._o say_v that_o all_o the_o sincere_a doctor_n of_o the_o church_n call_v themselves_o lutheran_n of_o luther_n the_o same_o also_o testify_v the_o sacramentary_n for_o those_o of_o new_a stade_fw-la against_o the_o book_n of_o concord_n cap_n 6._o pag._n 213._o say_v they_o account_v none_o a_o sincere_a disciple_n of_o christ_n unless_o he_o will_v be_v call_v as_o well_o a_o lutheran_n as_o a_o christian_a the_o author_n of_o the_o orthodox_n consent_v in_o prefat_n apologet._n they_o take_v to_o themselves_o faction_n name_n upon_o a_o preposterous_a and_o too_o great_a eastern_a of_o their_o master_n parcus_n in_o cap_n 2._o galat._n sect_n 24_o they_o do_v not_o only_o call_v themselves_o lutheran_n of_o luther_n but_o also_o will_v be_v so_o call_v of_o all_o beza_n in_o conspicil_n pag._n 8_o you_o all_o will_v be_v name_v and_o call_v lutheran_n and_o pag._n 56_o not_o content_a with_o the_o name_n of_o christian_n they_o call_v themselves_o lutheran_n and_o rejoice_v to_o be_v so_o call_v danaeus_n apol._n cont_n jac._n andrâ—ae_n say_v that_o he_o glori_v in_o luther_n as_o in_o another_o christ_n of_o who_o every_o where_n be_v thunder_v &_o call_v himself_o a_o lutheran_n a_o lutheran_n etc._n etc._n and_o resp_n ad_fw-la selnecer_n he_o say_v that_o selnecer_n free_o confess_v that_o the_o ducth_z church_n term_v themselves_o lutheran_n vrsin_n in_o catechism_n pag_n 494._o say_v this_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o they_o who_o call_v themselves_o lutheran_n zauchius_n epist_n dedicat_fw-la miscellan_n many_o be_v not_o ashamed_a even_o in_o print_a book_n to_o all_o themselves_o lutheran_n and_o jezler_n de_fw-fr bello_fw-la euchar._n fol._n 115_o some_o have_v no_o shame_n even_o in_o pulpit_n to_o say_v we_o will_v be_v lutheran_n constant_o and_o at_o some_o time_n even_o the_o sacramentary_n seem_v to_o be_v desirous_a of_o the_o surname_n of_o lutheran_n for_o those_o of_o newstade_n in_o admonit_n de_fw-fr lib_n concordiae_fw-la pag._n 106._o compliane_n that_o some_o will_v seem_v to_o be_v the_o only_a disciple_n of_o luther_n musculus_fw-la in_o locis_fw-la tit_n de_fw-fr haeresi_fw-la pag_n 604._o say_v no_o man_n condemn_v true_a lutheran_n unless_o he_o be_v ignorant_a of_o the_o truth_n or_o very_o naughty_a and_o the_o protestant_a prince_n of_o germany_n in_o thuan._n lib._n 79._o histor_n pag._n 595._o relate_v that_o the_o king_n of_o navarre_n write_v to_o they_o that_o if_o the_o french_a protestant_n be_v to_o be_v term_v of_o any_o man_n they_o ouâ—ht_v most_o of_o all_o to_o be_v call_v lutheran_n because_o when_o this_o name_n be_v odious_a in_o france_n for_o almost_o therscore_a year_n many_o by_o fire_n by_o rack_n be_v death_n seal_v with_o their_o blood_n the_o testimony_n of_o that_o doctrine_n which_o they_o receive_v first_o of_o luther_n scultete_n also_o in_o concionâ—_n saeculari_fw-la compare_v luther_n with_o the_o apostolical_a man_n beside_o the_o sacramentary_n call_v luther_n true_a follwer_n lutheran_n as_o zuinglius_fw-la tom_n 1._o fol._n 420._o 436._o 470._o oecolampadius_n ibidem_fw-la fol._n 479._o and_o in_o hospin_n part_n 2._o fol._n 84._o 112._o 126._o tigurini_fw-la ibidem_fw-la fol_z 88_o bucer_n in_o cap_n rom._n &_o in_o scriptis_fw-la angl._n pag._n 669._o martyr_n tom_n 2._o loc_fw-la epist_n ad_fw-la caluin_n hospin_n lib._n cit_fw-la fol._n 91._o caluin_n in_o zancius_n lib._n 2._o epist_n pag._n 78._o daneus_fw-la ibidem_fw-la pag._n 401._o zanchius_n himself_o pag._n 394._o pareus_n lib._n 5._o the_o amiss_o great_a cap._n 1._o &_o 2._o lib_n 4._o cap._n 17_o lib._n 6_o cap._n 1._o vorstius_n in_o antibellarm_n pag._n 561._o d._n whitaker_n count_v 1._o quest_n 2._o cap._n 3._o and_o quest_n 5._o c._n 8._o and_o quest_n 6._o cap._n 9_o cont_n 4._o quest_n 5._o cap._n 3._o &_o lib._n 3._o de_fw-la concupisc_fw-la cap._n 9_o &_o lib._n 3._o de_fw-fr scrip._n cap._n 2_o sect_n 3._o d._n fulke_o de_fw-fr success_n pag._n 321._o m._n perkins_n in_o explicat_fw-la symboly_n col_fw-fr 781._o &_o 790._o yea_o jezler_n loc_fw-la cit_fw-la fol._n 39_o &_o vorstius_n in_o collatine_n cum_fw-la piscatore_fw-la write_v that_o proper_o and_o vulgar_o they_o be_v call_v lutheran_n whereupon_o d._n humphrey_n ad_fw-la rat._n 2._o campian_n pag._n 128._o say_v lutheran_n vulgar_o call_v 7._o hereby_o we_o see_v first_o that_o the_o lutheran_n glory_n of_o the_o name_n of_o luther_n as_o the_o donatist_n which_o s._n augustin_n report_v do_v of_o the_o name_n of_o donatus_n second_o that_o they_o glory_n of_o a_o schismatical_a name_n for_o such_o be_v the_o name_n of_o lutheran_n as_o luther_n himself_o confess_v in_o d._n morton_n part_n 1._o apol._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 8._o and_o hospin_n praefat._n part_n 2._o histor_n vorstius_n in_o antibellarm_n pag._n 149_o yea_o d._n whitaker_n count_v 2._o quest_n 5._o cap._n 2._o say_v that_o to_o take_v the_o name_n of_o any_o man_n at_o all_o be_v heretical_a and_o schismatical_a and_o that_o heretic_n carry_v the_o name_n of_o their_o master_n and_o willing_o acknowledge_v such_o name_n three_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o english_a apology_n untrue_o say_v that_o luther_n disciple_n be_v call_v lutheran_n in_o disgtace_n or_o derision_n for_o graver_n lib._n cit_fw-la say_v they_o be_v term_v so_o for_o distinction_n sake_n lavatherus_n and_o hospin_n praefat._n histor_n say_v they_o call_v they_o so_o for_o doctrine_n sake_n that_o it_o may_v be_v know_v who_o they_o mean_v and_o scul_n eye_n so_o term_v they_o for_o honour_n sake_n and_o sure_o since_o both_o sacramentary_n the_o common_a people_n and_o themselves_o also_o term_v they_o lutheran_n and_o glory_n
they_o shall_v be_v understand_v rather_o according_a to_o saint_n hieromes_n meaning_n then_o according_a to_o their_o own_o most_o proper_a most_o plain_a and_o most_o frequent_a word_n especial_o when_o as_o luther_n say_v tom_n 1._o fol._n 414_o many_o thing_n be_v bear_v withal_o in_o the_o father_n who_o be_v know_v to_o be_v orthodox_n which_o we_o may_v not_o imitate_v 8._o wherefore_o out_o of_o all_o which_o have_v be_v rehearse_v in_o this_o chapter_n i_o thus_o frame_v my_o second_o demonstration_n if_o so_o be_v that_o before_o luther_n arise_v there_o be_v not_o one_o only_a protestant_a in_o the_o whole_a world_n but_o that_o all_o &_o every_o man_n follow_v a_o different_a religion_n luther_n be_v the_o author_n and_o beginner_n of_o the_o protestant_a church_n and_o religion_n but_o that_o be_v true_a as_o manifest_o appear_v by_o the_o manifold_a and_o open_a confession_n of_o luther_n and_o many_o and_o most_o famous_a protestant_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n that_o protestant_n confess_v their_o church_n and_o religion_n to_o have_v be_v altogether_o invisible_a before_o luther_n appear_v chap._n iu._n 1._o the_o four_o demonstration_n wherewith_o we_o will_v prove_v luther_n to_o have_v be_v the_o author_n of_o the_o protestant_a church_n and_o religion_n we_o will_v draw_v out_o of_o that_o which_o they_o confess_v of_o the_o invisibility_n thereof_o before_o luther_n break_v out_o and_o by_o the_o way_n i_o must_v advertise_v the_o reader_n of_o two_o thing_n the_o one_o be_v that_o by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o to_o be_v understand_v only_o the_o man_n who_o be_v of_o the_o church_n but_o their_o society_n in_o religion_n whereby_o they_o make_v a_o church_n wherefore_o those_o protestant_n speak_v not_o to_o the_o purpose_n who_o to_o excuse_v the_o absurdity_n of_o their_o doctrine_n touch_v the_o invisibility_n of_o the_o church_n say_v they_o mean_v not_o that_o the_o man_n whereof_o it_o consist_v be_v invisible_a man_n for_o it_o suffice_v that_o they_o confess_v that_o they_o be_v invisible_a worshipper_n of_o god_n according_a to_o the_o protestant_a manner_n or_o that_o their_o society_n in_o this_o kind_n of_o worship_n of_o god_n be_v invisible_a note_n note_n the_o other_o point_n be_v that_o in_o these_o kind_n of_o question_n whether_o before_o luther_n the_o protestant_a church_n be_v whether_o it_o be_v visible_a 1._o colloq_fw-la batisban_n sesse_n 1.6_o 10.17_o jewel_n def._n apol._n par_fw-fr 5._o c._n 15._o d._n 1._o whither_o it_o have_v pastor_n and_o the_o like_a the_o catholics_n hold_v the_o negative_a part_n and_o protestant_n the_o affirmative_a and_o that_o it_o belong_v to_o the_o affirmer_n to_o prove_v what_o he_o affirm_v wherein_o if_o he_o fail_v he_o be_v overcome_v and_o it_o be_v not_o needful_a for_o the_o denier_n to_o prove_v his_o denial_n but_o be_v sufficient_a reasonable_o to_o answer_v the_o proof_n of_o the_o affirmer_n which_o if_o he_o perform_v he_o have_v win_v the_o cause_n as_o if_o one_o like_v anaxagoras_n will_v say_v that_o there_o be_v many_o world_n beside_o this_o or_o that_o such_o and_o such_o thing_n have_v be_v do_v in_o time_n past_a he_o be_v bind_v to_o prove_v what_o he_o say_v &_o he_o that_o shall_v deny_v such_o matter_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o prove_v his_o denial_n but_o only_o reasonable_o to_o answer_v his_o adversary_n argument_n and_o the_o reason_n be_v manifest_a because_o for_o to_o affirm_v or_o believe_v any_o thing_n we_o must_v have_v reason_n or_o proof_n thereof_o burr_n for_o the_o not_o believe_v of_o it_o we_o need_v no_o other_o reason_n then_o to_o show_v that_o there_o be_v no_o sufficient_a reason_n why_o it_o shall_v be_v believe_v hereupon_o luther_n in_o his_o book_n against_o henry_n 8._o king_n of_o england_n tom_n 2._o fol._n 340_o say_v he_o must_v be_v teach_v the_o principle_n of_o disputation_n who_o have_v to_o prove_v his_o affirmation_n urge_v his_o adversary_n to_o prove_v his_o denial_n and_o vorstins_n in_o his_o antibellarm_n pag._n 464_o it_o be_v enough_o for_o the_o denier_n probable_o to_o deny_v wherefore_o in_o these_o kind_n of_o question_n protestant_n ought_v to_o be_v urge_v to_o perform_v their_o part_n that_o be_v to_o prove_v what_o they_o affirm_v to_o wit_n that_o before_o luther_n time_n their_o church_n be_v have_v pastor_n and_o the_o like_a which_o if_o they_o can_v do_v they_o must_v needs_o confess_v that_o in_o this_o debate_n they_o have_v lose_v their_o cause_n and_o they_o ought_v not_o to_o press_v we_o to_o prove_v that_o before_o luther_n their_o church_n be_v not_o have_v not_o pastor_n etc._n etc._n because_o as_o i_o say_v herein_o we_o be_v only_o the_o defender_n and_o denier_n 473._o tom._n 1._o foe_n 389._o 473._o and_o therefore_o it_o suffice_v for_o we_o to_o show_v that_o no_o reason_n which_o the_o protestant_n allege_v convince_v a_o reasonable_a man_n to_o believe_v that_o there_o be_v any_o such_o church_n before_o luther_n appear_v which_o if_o we_o do_v we_o have_v win_v the_o cause_n stranger_n that_o the_o protestant_n church_n be_v invisible_a to_o stranger_n nevertheless_o that_o i_o may_v use_v luther_n word_n in_o the_o book_n before_o cite_v albeit_o it_o belong_v not_o to_o we_o to_o prove_v the_o negative_a let_v we_o do_v it_o 2._o first_o therefore_o touch_v the_o invisibility_n of_o the_o protestant_a church_n before_o luther_n time_n protestant_n confess_v that_o it_o be_v invisible_a to_o papist_n to_o enemy_n to_o the_o world_n and_o to_o all_o that_o be_v not_o of_o it_o for_o thus_o say_v sadcel_n in_o his_o refutation_n of_o the_o 61._o article_n pag._n 538_o we_o deny_v not_o that_o the_o godly_a man_n lurck_v under_o popish_a darkness_n and_o we_o give_v god_n thanks_o that_o such_o person_n family_n papist_n invisible_a to_o papist_n and_o company_n be_v for_o a_o time_n invisible_a and_o unknown_a to_o the_o pope_n and_o all_o his_o catchpole_n see_v they_o be_v for_o a_o long_a time_n like_o sparkle_n cover_v with_o much_o ash_n the_o same_o he_o say_v in_o his_o answer_n to_o arthur_n cap._n 8._o and_o to_o the_o sophism_n of_o turrian_n loco_fw-la 10._o and_o to_o the_o repetition_n of_o they_o pag._n 706._o danaeus_n in_o his_o book_n of_o antichrist_n cap._n 38._o write_v that_o there_o be_v very_o few_o protestant_n and_o those_o dwell_n in_o wilderness_n and_o also_o unknown_a to_o other_o other_o unknown_a to_o other_o junius_n in_o his_o 4._o book_n of_o the_o church_n cap._n 5._o speak_v thus_o of_o protestant_n before_o luther_n they_o profess_v their_o say_v among_o themselves_o but_o not_o before_o dog_n &_o wild_a beast_n who_o will_v run_v upon_o they_o d._n whitaker_n cont._n 2._o quaest_n 2._o cap._n 2._o pag._n 458._o be_v it_o the_o protestant_n church_n manifest_a to_o all_o no_o but_o to_o those_o only_o who_o have_v eye_n and_o pag._n 468_o there_o be_v no_o true_a church_n on_o earth_n protestant_n know_a only_o to_o protestant_n which_o appear_v to_o all_o and_o quest_n 6._o cap._n 2._o pag_n 359_o we_o care_v not_o for_o their_o object_v solitude_n unto_o us._n for_o we_o be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o have_v recall_v our_o church_n out_o of_o this_o kind_n of_o solitude_n d._n fulke_o to_o the_o cavillation_n of_o stapleton_n the_o whole_a form_n of_o the_o church_n be_v for_o some_o age_n unknown_a to_o the_o ungrateful_a world_n and_o in_o his_o book_n of_o succession_n pag._n 118_o they_o confess_v christ_n but_o not_o always_o before_o heretic_n but_o before_o themselves_o and_o the_o church_n and_o in_o his_o note_n upon_o the_o 11._o cap._n of_o the_o act_n if_o by_o visible_a you_o understand_v that_o which_o be_v see_v and_o know_v to_o the_o whole_a world_n it_o be_v not_o true_a that_o the_o church_n be_v always_o visible_a d._n morton_n in_o the_o 1._o part_n of_o his_o apology_n book_n 1._o cap._n 16._o say_v they_o profess_v secret_o not_o public_o d._n white_a in_o his_o way_n to_o the_o church_n pag._n 95_o that_o they_o profess_v among_o themselves_o osiander_n in_o his_o manuel_n pag._n 59_o in_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o rome_n there_o be_v the_o invisible_a company_n of_o believer_n hide_v to_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o world_n caelius_n secundus_fw-la curio_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o lardgne_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n pag._n 212_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o for_o many_o year_n the_o church_n lie_v hide_v and_o that_o the_o citizen_n of_o this_o kingdom_n can_v scarce_o or_o not_o at_o all_o be_v discern_v from_o other_o and_o the_o scot_n in_o their_o general_a confession_n we_o say_v that_o this_o be_v the_o only_a true_a christian_a say_v which_o be_v now_o reveal_v to_o the_o world_n thus_o they_o acknowledge_v that_o before_o luther_n tym_fw-mi protestant_n be_v unknown_a to_o the_o pope_n and_o his_o officer_n to_o their_o
22_o i_o deny_v say_v be_v this_o succession_n of_o pastor_n to_o be_v always_o notorious_a to_o the_o world_n and_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o stapletons_n cavillat_n who_o will_v acknowledge_v that_o she_o alone_o it_o the_o true_a church_n who_o can_v show_v her_o pastor_n in_o a_o continual_a succession_n d._n humphrey_n to_o 3._o reason_n of_o f._n campian_n p._n 288._o confess_v that_o not_o so_o much_o as_o the_o name_n of_o the_o pastor_n who_o teach_v their_o church_n be_v extant_a d._n whitaker_n cont._n 2_o quest_n 5._o cap._n 6._o page_n 508._o thus_o write_v what_o then_o be_v the_o succession_n of_o our_o pastor_n always_o visible_a no._n for_o this_o be_v not_o needful_a though_o therefore_o our_o pastor_n be_v not_o in_o time_n past_o manifest_a neither_o can_v we_o name_v then_o yet_o etc._n etc._n d._n morton_n in_o the_o first_o part_n of_o his_o apology_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 21._o say_v that_o the_o catholic_a church_n can_v always_o show_v the_o ordination_n of_o pastor_n d._n white_a in_o his_o way_n to_o the_o church_n pag._n 410_o i_o have_v show_v the_o teacher_n of_o our_o faith_n do_v lawful_o succeed_v and_o so_o always_o have_v do_v though_o not_o outward_o and_o visible_o to_o the_o world_n the_o like_a he_o have_v pag._n 411._o and_o 436._o sadel_n write_v his_o book_n the_o vocatione_n ministrorun_v against_o such_o protestant_n as_o think_v that_o their_o minister_n want_v all_o lawful_a call_n because_o say_v they_o they_o have_v no_o perpetual_a visible_a succession_n from_o the_o apostle_n unto_o these_o time_n and_o himself_o there_o pag._n 560._o confess_v that_o visible_a succession_n have_v be_v break_v of_o for_o many_o year_n in_o the_o church_n thou_o see_v good_a reader_n how_o they_o plain_o confess_v that_o before_o luther_n start_v up_o their_o pastor_n be_v unknown_a to_o the_o world_n not_o manifest_a their_o succession_n not_o always_o visible_a their_o name_n not_o extant_a nor_o they_o can_v be_v name_v of_o protestant_n and_o indeed_o and_o effect_v they_o all_o confess_v the_o same_o when_o as_o none_o of_o they_o can_v produce_v any_o one_o man_n worthy_a of_o credit_n who_o hear_v any_o protestant_a preacher_n who_o before_o luther_n arise_v preach_v justification_n by_o only_a faith_n and_o the_o other_o fundamental_a point_n of_o protestancy_n 2._o second_o luther_n either_o complain_v or_o boast_v for_o sometime_o he_o alone_o preach_v protestancy_n in_o his_o preface_n upon_o his_o 1._o tome_fw-mi at_o first_o i_o be_v alone_o alone_o luther_n alone_o and_o in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o captivity_n of_o babylon_n tom_n 2._o fol._n 63_o at_o that_o time_n i_o alone_o do_v role_n this_o stone_n and_o against_o the_o king_n of_o england_n fol._n 497_o i_o alone_o stand_v in_o the_o battle_n i_o alone_o be_v compel_v to_o cast_v myself_o upon_o the_o weapon_n of_o the_o emperor_n and_o the_o pope_n i_o stand_v alone_o in_o danger_n forsake_v of_o all_o help_v of_o none_o and_o upon_o the_o gradual_a psalm_n tom_n 3._o fol._n 5â—5_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o my_o quarrel_n i_o take_v all_o the_o matter_n upon_o myself_o and_o do_v think_v that_o by_o god_n help_n i_o alone_o shall_v sustain_v it_o and_o otherwhere_o as_o before_o be_v report_v he_o say_v that_o without_o he_o other_o shall_v not_o have_v know_v one_o jot_n of_o the_o gospel_n melancthon_n in_o the_o preface_n of_o the_o act_n of_o ratisbon_n tom_n 4._o pag._n 730_o say_v luther_n alone_o dare_v meddle_v with_o the_o error_n of_o the_o pope_n &_o school_n zuinglius_fw-la in_o his_o exegesis_n to_o 2._o term_v luther_n jonathas_n who_o alone_o dare_v set_v upon_o the_o camp_n of_o the_o philistian_o and_o caluin_n in_o his_o admonition_n to_o westphalus_n pag._n 787._o say_v luther_n alone_o doubt_v not_o to_o set_v upon_o all_o popery_n beside_o luther_n as_o before_o we_o have_v rehearse_v write_v that_o the_o only_a scripture_n be_v leave_v whereby_o man_n may_v recover_v the_o faith_n but_o if_o at_o that_o time_n there_o have_v be_v other_o protestant_a pastor_n the_o scripture_n have_v not_o be_v alone_o and_o without_o luther_n man_n may_v have_v learn_v the_o gospel_n neither_o have_v luther_n be_v leave_v alone_o and_o forsake_v of_o all_o perish_v the_o protestant_a ministry_n whole_o perish_v but_o some_o of_o they_o will_v have_v step_v out_o and_o second_v he_o especial_o after_o they_o see_v that_o the_o preach_v without_o all_o danger_n 3._o three_o protestant_n do_v sometime_o plain_o say_v that_o their_o ministry_n be_v whole_o perish_v before_o luther_n arise_v away_o take_v away_o luther_n in_o his_o book_n of_o private_a mass_n tom_n 2._o fol._n 249_o papist_n have_v take_v out_o of_o the_o church_n the_o true_a ministry_n of_o the_o word_n and_o of_o the_o institution_n of_o minister_n fol._n 372._o aboloshed_a aboloshed_a he_o write_v that_o protestant_a ordination_n be_v by_o papist_n abolish_v and_o extinguish_v and_o upon_o the_o gradual_a psalm_n tom_fw-mi 3._o fol._n 568_o the_o church_n have_v no_o true_a ministry_n under_o antichrist_n ministry_n no_o true_a ministry_n upon_o the_o 25._o of_o genesis_n tom_n 6._o fol._n 319_o in_o our_o time_n after_o those_o popish_a monster_n the_o true_a knowledge_n of_o the_o word_n and_o of_o divine_a ordination_n be_v extinguish_v and_o upon_o the_o 49._o chap._n fol._n 655_o extinguish_v extinguish_v we_o be_v not_o the_o church_n for_o any_o ordinary_a succession_n caluin_n epist_n 290_o because_o the_o true_a rank_n of_o ordination_n be_v break_v of_o by_o the_o tyranny_n of_o the_o pope_n now_o we_o need_v have_v new_a help_n to_o raise_v again_o the_o church_n of_o break_a of_o and_o in_o answer_n to_o sadolet_n pag._n 132._o he_o write_v that_o when_o the_o supremacy_n of_o the_o pope_n be_v set_v up_o the_o true_a order_n of_o the_o church_n perish_v perish_v perish_v and_o of_o true_a reformation_n p._n 322_o not_o without_o cause_n do_v we_o avouch_v the_o church_n of_o god_n for_o some_o age_n to_o have_v be_v so_o ioâ—ne_a and_o scatter_v that_o be_v it_o be_v destitute_a of_o true_a pastor_n beza_n in_o his_o catechism_n pastor_n destitute_a of_o pastor_n title_n of_o the_o church_n cap._n 5_o sect_n 18_o in_o our_o time_n it_o come_v to_o pass_v thing_n be_v so_o fall_v down_o that_o there_o be_v leave_v no_o place_n for_o ordinary_a vocation_n and_o epist_n 5._o pag._n 39_o in_o our_o time_n ordinary_a vocation_n where_o ordinary_a vocation_n no_o where_o which_o no_o where_n be_v neither_o can_v nor_o aught_o to_o be_v expect_v and_o epist_n 24_o you_o know_v be_v teach_v by_o fresh_a example_n how_o the_o public_a ministry_n be_v as_o it_o be_v overwhelm_v for_o a_o time_n yet_o the_o church_n of_o god_n remain_v and_o epist_n 81_o the_o matter_n come_v to_o that_o pass_n ground_n overthrow_v to_o the_o ground_n that_o the_o ecclesiastical_a order_n be_v whole_o overthrow_v even_o to_o the_o foundation_n the_o vain_a name_n thereof_o only_o remain_v and_o lib._n de_fw-fr notis_n eccles_n pag._n 82_o they_o who_o in_o our_o memory_n have_v free_v the_o church_n from_o the_o tyranny_n of_o antichrist_n have_v none_o of_o who_o they_o may_v lawful_o ask_v or_o receive_v imposition_n of_o hand_n and_o epist_n 86_o it_o be_v manife_a that_o for_o some_o age_n lawful_a order_n be_v quite_o abolish_v in_o the_o church_n abolish_v quite_o abolish_v none_o not_o so_o much_o as_o the_o slender_a shadow_n of_o the_o chief_a part_n of_o ecclesiastical_a call_n remain_v the_o french_a confession_n art_n 31_o sometime_o as_o in_o our_o age_n the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n be_v interrupt_v it_o be_v needful_a that_o some_o pastor_n shall_v be_v extraordinary_o raise_v of_o god_n sadeel_n also_o de_fw-la vocat_fw-la ministrorum_fw-la p._n 556._o say_v that_o true_a order_n of_o pastor_n be_v interrupt_v d._n whitaker_n cont._n 2._o quest_n 5._o cap._n 6._o pag._n 510_o we_o say_v that_o our_o man_n calling_n be_v not_o ordinary_a but_o extraordinary_a corrupt_v whole_o corrupt_v because_o ordinary_a call_n be_v whole_o corrupt_v again_o the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n be_v fall_v and_o whole_o overturn_v and_o pag._n 612_o when_o ordinary_a succession_n be_v corrupt_v god_n find_v a_o extraordinary_a way_n by_o which_o the_o church_n may_v be_v restore_v for_o god_n will_v that_o this_o restauration_n shall_v be_v make_v not_o in_o the_o old_a foundation_n that_o be_v in_o succession_n of_o bishop_n but_o after_o a_o certain_a new_a extraordinary_a manner_n and_o d._n white_a in_o defence_n of_o his_o way_n cap_n 49._o pag._n 421_o find_v no_o other_o kind_n of_o pastor_n say_v that_o the_o protestant_a pastor_n be_v even_o those_o who_o live_v in_o communion_n of_o the_o roman_a greek_a armenian_a and_o such_o like_a church_n and_o add_v that_o his_o adversary_n do_v deceive_v the_o reader_n when_o he_o intimate_v that_o protestant_n go_v
of_o christ_n for_o thus_o he_o write_v popery_n as_o judaisme_n heretofore_o signify_v that_o company_n which_o at_o least_o in_o her_o time_n have_v the_o true_a church_n with_o it_o such_o be_v the_o jew_n before_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o papist_n before_o the_o come_n of_o luther_n his_o meaning_n as_o i_o suppose_v be_v that_o as_o the_o christian_a church_n be_v in_o state_n another_o church_n from_o the_o synagogue_n because_o it_o have_v other_o sacrament_n other_o sacrifice_n and_o more_o point_n of_o faith_n and_o christ_n another_o founder_n of_o the_o church_n distinct_a from_o moses_n so_o the_o protestant_a church_n be_v a_o distinct_a church_n from_o the_o ancient_a christian_a church_n and_o luther_n not_o only_o another_o elias_n as_o they_o call_v he_o but_o also_o another_o messiah_n a_o founder_n and_o beginner_n of_o another_o church_n distinct_a from_o that_o of_o christ_n at_o least_o as_o far_o as_o his_o church_n differ_v from_o the_o synagogue_n behold_v christian_n reader_n whereto_o all_o their_o wind_a turn_v and_o double_v about_o the_o be_v of_o their_o church_n in_o popery_n be_v come_v sure_o as_o s._n augustin_n say_v 12._o l_o 20._o cont_n faust_n c._n 12._o against_o the_o manichee_n their_o imagination_n have_v lose_v all_o way_n for_o they_o be_v nothing_o bâ—â—_n the_o vision_n of_o frantic_a man_n for_o their_o remain_v no_o probable_a way_n to_o defend_v that_o their_o church_n be_v heretofore_o in_o popery_n it_o be_v mere_a frenzy_n to_o think_v that_o it_o waâ—_n in_o popery_n virtual_o and_o implicit_o like_v as_o a_o plant_n iâ—_n in_o the_o seed_n or_o a_o man_n in_o a_o child_n at_o the_o christiaâ—_n church_n once_o be_v in_o the_o synagogue_n or_o that_o it_o waâ—_n open_o distinct_a in_o communion_n and_o profession_n froâ—_n papist_n or_o that_o it_o consist_v of_o such_o which_o either_o iâ—_n hart_n or_o at_o least_o in_o profession_n be_v papist_n or_o final_o that_o the_o church_n of_o god_n such_o as_o they_o will_v haâ—â—_n the_o protestant_n to_o be_v be_v for_o many_o age_n in_o a_o different_a yea_o a_o most_o opposite_a church_n where_o neither_o by_o divine_a nor_o humane_a testimony_n it_o can_v be_v prove_v to_o have_v be_v neither_o can_v there_o any_o way_n be_v imagine_v by_o which_o it_o may_v with_o any_o appearance_n or_o probability_n be_v say_v to_o have_v be_v there_o thus_o say_v s._n augustine_n do_v they_o dote_v ul_a lib._n 20._o count_n faust_n c._n ul_a who_o not_o abide_v true_a doctrine_n turn_v to_o fable_n 12_o and_o out_o of_o these_o wherewith_o we_o have_v show_v that_o the_o protestant_a church_n heretofore_o be_v not_o in_o popery_n be_v refute_v also_o zanchius_n praefat._n lib._n de_fw-fr natura_fw-la dei_fw-la where_o he_o say_v that_o their_o brethren_n in_o time_n past_o live_v in_o some_o obscure_a valley_n and_o mountain_n and_o meet_v at_o night_n and_o d._n fulke_o lib._n the_o success_n pag._n 324._o saying_n that_o in_o europe_n the_o church_n be_v by_o antichrist_n thrust_v into_o obscure_a place_n but_o lest_o they_o shall_v be_v trip_v in_o their_o lie_v they_o name_v neither_o those_o mountain_n nor_o valley_n nor_o place_n nor_o their_o night-owle-brethren_n nor_o final_o prove_v any_o thing_n 9_o l._n 14._o cont_n faust_n c._n 9_o but_o as_o s._n augustin_n say_v of_o faustus_n they_o say_v it_o &_o away_o they_o never_o seek_v to_o prove_v it_o or_o as_o christ_n say_v of_o the_o adversary_n man_n they_o sow_v cockle_n and_o depart_v it_o suffice_v for_o these_o new_a pythagorian_o to_o pour_v out_o lie_v like_o oracle_n for_o they_o assure_v themselves_o that_o with_o reckless_a man_n they_o will_v find_v credit_n of_o themselves_o &_o like_a weed_n grow_v without_o till_v hence_o also_o be_v refute_v the_o same_o fulke_n in_o cap._n 10._o apocal._n where_o he_o affirm_v his_o brethren_n heretofore_o have_v live_v in_o the_o alps_n in_o the_o apennine_a mountain_n and_o in_o the_o hereinian_a forest_n he_o may_v better_o have_v say_v they_o live_v in_o the_o wilderness_n of_o utopia_n for_o he_o prove_v nothing_o 26_o l._n 16._o cont_n faust_n c._n 26_o o_o man_n that_o i_o may_v cry_v out_o which_o s._n augustine_n thinck_v only_o of_o his_o own_o talk_n and_o not_o think_v of_o any_o gainesayer_n again_o do_v thou_o not_o know_v 54._o lib._n 4._o cont_n cres_n c._n 54._o or_o do_v thou_o not_o feel_v with_o the_o heart_n of_o what_o man_n soever_o that_o in_o dispute_v where_o truth_n be_v seek_v where_o proof_n follow_v not_o the_o talk_n be_v vain_a and_o foolish_a wherefore_o now_o let_v we_o hear_v their_o argument_n or_o rather_o sophism_n wherewith_o sometime_o they_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v that_o their_o church_n be_v in_o time_n pass_v in_o popery_n the_o sophism_n wherewith_o some_o protestant_a make_v show_v to_o prove_v that_o their_o church_n be_v heretofore_o in_o popery_n refute_v chap._n x._o 1._o the_o first_o argument_n wherewith_o protestant_n will_v seem_v to_o prove_v that_o their_o church_n in_o former_a time_n be_v in_o popery_n be_v ground_v upon_o that_o saying_n apocal._n 18_o go_v out_o of_o she_o babylon_n my_o people_n therefore_o god_n people_n be_v in_o babylon_n that_o be_v say_v theâ—_n in_o popery_n thus_o argue_v luther_n in_o cap._n 12._o genes_n tom_fw-mi 6._o fol._n 144._o and_o in_o cap._n 19_o fol._n 234._o the_o magdeburgian_o in_o praefat._n centur._n 8._o plessy_a lib._n de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 10._o and_o other_o common_o yea_o m._n perkins_n in_o his_o reform_a catholic_a tract_n 22._o write_v that_o by_o this_o commandment_n it_o may_v be_v gather_v that_o the_o true_a church_n be_v and_o be_v long_a time_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n wherein_o he_o speak_v more_o true_o than_o he_o mean_v for_o the_o true_a church_n be_v and_o be_v always_o in_o the_o roman_a but_o the_o protestant_n neither_o be_v nor_o be_v there_o to_o the_o argument_n i_o answer_v that_o this_o place_n can_v be_v no_o sufficient_a ground_n of_o faith_n among_o the_o protestans_fw-la because_o their_o angel_n their_o apostle_n and_o evangelist_n martin_n luther_n deny_v the_o apocalypse_n to_o be_v canonical_a scripture_n again_o though_o indeed_o it_o be_v canonical_a scripture_n yet_o for_o the_o most_o part_n it_o be_v so_o obscure_a as_o but_o very_o few_o place_n thereof_o be_v fit_a to_o ground_v any_o point_n of_o faith_n as_o be_v evident_a both_o by_o the_o book_n itself_o which_o be_v well_o nigh_o all_o mystical_a and_o allegorical_a and_o by_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o father_n and_o confession_n of_o protestant_n 20._o euseb_n l._n 7._o cap._n 20._o for_o thus_o say_v s._n denis_n patriarch_n of_o alexandria_n of_o the_o apocalypse_n i_o very_o think_v that_o almost_o in_o every_o sentence_n there_o lie_v some_o mystical_a and_o marvellous_a sense_n likewise_o s._n hierome_n paulin._n epist_n ad_fw-la paulin._n the_o apocalypse_n have_v as_o many_o mystery_n as_o word_n and_o s._n augustin_n in_o the_o book_n of_o the_o apocalypse_n many_o obscure_a thing_n be_v tell_v and_o there_o be_v few_o thing_n therein_o 17._o lib_n 20._o de_fw-mi civit._n c._n 17._o by_o light_n whereof_o the_o rest_n may_v be_v seek_v aught_o with_o labour_n and_o with_o protestant_n d._n andrew_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o bellarmine_n apology_n cap._n 9_o be_v he_o ignorant_a that_o concern_v the_o apocalypse_n nothing_o certain_a or_o of_o faith_n be_v yet_o prescribe_v by_o the_o church_n that_o it_o may_v be_v lawful_a to_o use_v one_o only_a kind_n of_o interpretation_n and_o no_o other_o as_o if_o it_o be_v so_o clear_a and_o evident_a that_o it_o be_v a_o heinous_a offence_n to_o leave_v it_o or_o to_o dissent_v any_o way_n from_o it_o yea_o as_o any_o may_v with_o great_a probability_n show_v the_o prophecy_n there_o to_o be_v fulfil_v so_o be_v it_o free_a for_o any_o to_o use_v his_o judgement_n &_o to_o follow_v his_o own_o opinion_n in_o explicate_v they_o and_o d._n whitaker_n cont._n 4._o quest_n 5._o cap._n 3_o pag._n 677_o it_o be_v well_o enough_o know_v that_o john_n in_o the_o apocalypse_n speak_v not_o of_o clear_a and_o open_a matter_n but_o of_o obscurt_n and_o hide_a m._n brightman_n in_o his_o preface_n of_o the_o apocalypse_n in_o so_o great_a abundance_n of_o ancient_a and_o new_a exposition_n the_o apocalypse_n yet_o as_o all_o agree_v need_v a_o apocalypse_n and_o m._n sheldon_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o miracle_n of_o antichrist_n cap._n 4._o pag._n 54_o call_v it_o a_o dark_a &_o mystical_a prophecy_n in_o which_o say_v he_o quot_fw-la verba_fw-la tot_fw-la latent_fw-la mysteria_fw-la and_o pag._n 226_o the_o apocalypse_n be_v a_o book_n whole_o mystical_a which_o do_v except_v some_o few_o doctrinal_a rule_n and_o exhortation_n to_o virtue_n in_o type_n figure_n form_n and_o resemblance_n describe_v and_o foretell_v the_o future_a event_n of_o the_o