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B09776	The Anabaptists meribah: or, VVaters of strife. Being a reply to a late insulting pamphlet, written by Thomas Lamb, merchant, intitulled, Truth prevailing against the fiercest opposition; or, An answer to Mr. John Goodwins Water-dipping, no firm footing for church-communion. Wherein the impertinency of M. Lamb's answer, and the validity of M. Goodwin's Water-dipping, &c. are manifested by I. Price a member of the Church of Christ, whereof the said Mr. Goodwin is pastor.	Price, J., fl. 1656.	1656 (1656)	Wing P3332A; ESTC R182056	87,699	107

a standing Pool or River doth It was not simply the blood of Christ but the blood of Christ shed by which we have a Redemption and Remission of sins Now though water in a Pool or River might in a dull way represent the blood of Christ yet the sprinckling or pouring of it out doth more aptly set forth the shedding of this blood We may well presume that his precious blood did trickle down from his most sacred Temples Hands Feet and Sides when he was upon the Cross all which I say is more significantly represented by Sprinckling than by Dipping 2. A little Water sprinckled and poured out upon a person doth more lively and significantly set forth the value worth and excellency of Christs blood than a great standing Pool Pond or River instructing the beholders thereof that it is not the quantity but the quality the dignity of Christs blood Though it be but as the blood of a Lamb yet the Lamb being spotless and without blemish that hath purchased redemption and remission of sins the Scriptures take no notice how much the blood was but what the dignity of that blood was that was shed Act. 20.28 God hath purchased the church with his own blood Heb. 9.14 It is the blood of Christ who through the eternall Spirit offered himself without spot c. that purgeth the conscience 1 Pet. 1.19 You are redeemed not with silver and gold c. but with the precious blood of Christ as of a Lamb without blemish and without spot It is true a great Pool Pond or River might better represent the blood of Bulls and Goats Oxen and Heifers Rams and Lambs c. altogether making a great Pool or lake of blood which is corrupted and cannot justifie but a little water sprinckled doth more aptly set forth the value worth and dignity of Christs blood which is as it were freshly running out of his veins and besprinckled upon the subject in Baptism 3. The Sprinckling of the water in baptism doth hold a conformity unto and preserves the commemoration of the legall sprincklings in the Old-Testament Exod. 24. compared with Hebrews the 9th you will finde that Moses after he had preached and spoken the Law of God unto the people he took the blood of calves and of goats c. and besprinckled the book and all the people the tabernacle the vessels of the ministry c. all things were purged by the sprinckling of blood And the Author to the Hebrews refers all to the purging and purifying of the conscience from dead works to serve the living God Heb. 10.22 Heb. 12. ver 24. You are come c. to the blood of Sprinckling that speaketh better things than the blood of Abel the blood of sprinckling that is the blood wherewith you are sprinckled alluding to that blood of the Old-covenant mentioned Heb. 9.20 So we are sprinckled with the blood of Christ c. This is more lively represented in the sprinckling of water in baptism then in dipping or dowsing the subject of baptism so much insisted upon 4. This ceremony of sprinckling or pouring out water in baptism doth more lively represent the performance of severall promises of sanctification unto the Gentiles mentioned by the words sprinckling and pouring out of water then that of dipping doth Ezek. 36.25 I will sprinckle clean water upon you and you shall be clean from all yuor filthiness and from all your Idolls will I clense you and a new heart also will I give you c. So again in Isa 52 23 24 25. it is prophesied of Christ Behold my Servant shall deale prudently he shall be exalted and extolled and be very high c. he shall sprinckle many Nations c. So again Isa 44.3 I will poure out water upon him that is thirsty c. I will poure out my Spirit So again Joel 2.18 I will poure out my Spirit upon all Flesh c. upon all Flesh as well as upon the Jews Thus the ceremony of sprinckling or of pouring out of water in baptism doth help a mans faith in the believing and expecting the performance of these promises after a more effectuall manner than dipping doth SECT XLII 5. IN the fifth and last place Sprinckling and pouring out water upon the subject of baptism better answers the end of that Ordinance than dipping the subject of baptism or burying him under water let us compare your dipping with your notions and apprehensions thereof together with sprinckling and our apprehension thereof and then see which is most likely to be the truth and to answer the nature of a Sacrament We have usually considered three things in Sacraments the outward visible sign The thing signified thereby and the inward spirituall grace As to instance in the Supper of the Lord the Bread and Wine are the outward visible signs The Body and blood of Christ the things signified Our spirituall Union with Christ refreshment by Christ interest in Christ c. these are the spirituall graces c. So now consider in our Notions and apprehensions of baptism by sprinckling The outward visible sign is Water the thing signified by it is the Blood of Christ The inward and spirituall graces they are remission of sins sanctification spirituall washing clensing our selves from all pollutions c. the spirituall graces of any Sacrament being very many and vatious Now let us consider your Notion of Dipping intended by Christ as you say therein viz. to shew forth the death buriall and resurrection of Christ for sinners and the sinners death unto sin suffering with Christ Resurrection to all newness of life here and glory hereafter Let us then examine it First Here is water the outward visible sign What must this signifie Or what is the thing signified by it Is it to answer the Death and Buriall and Resurrection of Christ What answers Water Is it the death or blood of Christ So far we grant also that the Water signifieth Christs Blood So far I believe you are right and this doth more lively represent the Blood of Christ trickling or sprinckling down by drops and gushes viz. the sprinckling or pouring out of water than dipping into water But to make it represent the buriall of Christ how will you make the parallel Let us try how things will agree 1. Here is water whereinto the subject is dipped or dowsed this is the outward visible sign 2. What is thereby signified The Blood of Christ cannot be here the thing signified for Christ was not buryed in his own blood but in the earth Then the thing signified hereby is the earth and it can be nothing else what ever be the inward and spirituall graces Now I offer Where do we ever find water in Scripture to represent the earth It doth frequently sign fie the Spirit the blood of Christ the pure word of God whereby men are made clean when they are polluted refreshed when thirsty c. But never doth it signifie the Earth as it must here

imagined that he did see his own shape and picture stil going before him So it seems in those pathes of the Scripture where you walk you suppose you see the shadow of your opinion about baptism yea the truth in that shining with the majesty of God You argue with the Scriptures as the Papists your great pattern in the mount in more things than in this do to prove their fanatick notions and practises The text saith give not holy things to dogs Mat. 7.6 that is say they the Scriptures to the ignorant again Mat. 6.11 Give us this day our dayly bread Ergo we must communicate in one kind What 's your second reason why godly persons scrupling baptism after your manner are reckoned with God in respect of right to churchmembership among fornicators covetous c. It is this 2. Because he praised the Church of Corinth for keeping the Ordinances as he declared them unto them Just thus your foresaid pattern There are seven Sacraments for Christ brake and divided to the people five Loaves and two Fishes Mat. 14.19 Well your third reason 3. Because Order he looked upon as a beautifull thing Coll. 2.5 Ergo What do you tell us of the steadfastness of your faith without you be dipt away with you among your companions fornicators covetous idolaters drunkards railers and the rest of that cursed crew Well proceed 4. Because he cautioneth the Church to take heed of Philosophers that through vain deceit would bring them into disorder 2 Coll. 8. Coll. 2.8 what need we any further witness he that will be blinde let him be blinde can you not see baptism by dipping and believers unbaptized reckoned among the rabble of wretches in this reason also yet a little more to cure our dull eyes say you 5 Because when any disorder grew he took such care to have them corrected Tit. 1.5 If this be not light sufficient to convince the world that holy men not baptized according to our way and opinion are to be reckoned in respect of right to Church-membership among dogs without there is no hopes of conviction Yet again you proceed 6. Because he saith his word was not yea and nay as fallible mens are now 2 Cor. 1.18 I hope now it appears clearer than the Sun if clearer may be that in Pauls judgement godly and holy persons though one with Christ Jesus by faith that scruple baptism and are not baptized after our way and manner have no more right to Church-membership than those that are one in communion and fellowship even with the Devill himself or else Paul would pull down with his one hand what he built up with another Having kill'd Mr. Goodwins Argument dead six times over so that it lies at his feet like murthered Abel at his brother Cains hark how the Drums beat the Trumpets sound the Coolurs are displayed no noise but Victory Victory to be heard in the Camp see how he glories in the Triumph Good Reader Doest not thou think in thy conscience Mr. Goodwin hath the wrong end of the staff in this controversie and whether the putting this question doth not discover it and who it is that buildeth upon light conjectures loose suppositions presumptuous self-imaginations M. Goodwin or his poor brethren of the dip as he calleth them SECT LVII MR. Goodwins 13th Consideration touching the offensiveness burthensomness and grievousness of water-dipping to the natural flesh together with what others have written hereabouts and what you have answered I shall leave to men of sense that have felt it and of reason to judge upon the whole whether this be according to that Gospel freedome from such yoaks mentioned in the Law which the New-Testament speaks of The Law indeed chastised the Jews with whips but you make the Gospel like Rehoboam to chastise the Gentiles with scorpions 1 King 12.11 which as you manage your conceits of the power and vertue of baptism as if men without it and that at such time and in such manner and upon such tearms as you plead for it is as acceptable unto God as the whips of the Papists upon Good-Fryday lashing their backs until they bleed again Mr. Goodwins 14th consideration viz. that for persons to mistake about baptism is as venial and pardonable mistake all things considered as likely can be and therefore if punishable it should be with the lightest punishment that may be therefore to inflict the heaviest curse such as the unchurching men is the rendring men abhominable in the sight of God this is indeed more than summumjus yea summainjuria SECT LXVIII TO this you speak several words as if you knew not what the consideration said nor whereof it affirmed your answer seems to be to another thing I think your self cannot tell to what as if like Babels builders you understood not the language of the consideration but that it spake in an unknown tongue for say you 1. The Apostles did foresee there would be an apostacie from the primitive practise c. 2. This apostacie did fall out accordingly c. 3. Why did not the judgement of the learned stop your Mr. Gooodwins mouth and tearing your self from the national Church c. 4. You Mr. Goodwin plead stiffly for some things which rendreth you more alone than we c. What is the meaning of all this you might as wel have told us that Lots Wife was turned to a Pillar of Salt which had been as savoury an answer as that you gave unto the consideration propounded SECT LXIX YOU say the 15th Consideration saith nothing but what hath been said before and therefore you have no more to say to it I have therefore no more to say to you concerning it but I believe the judicious Reader of that consideration and your answer will find it like Moses Rod devouring all that you have said in your whole Book to invalid the same SECT LXX MR. Goodwins 16th Consideration you have summ'd up thus Infant-baptism though per sprinckling is as efficacious as the baptism you plead for 1. For declaring persons the professed Disciples of Christ 2. For obliging persons to be the loyal Disciples of Christ 3. For mutter of edification and comfort to the inner man To this you answer by denying all that hath been said touching those three ends of baptism and my reply shall onely be That it is too evident to be denyed and too easie an answer to satisfie men in their wits unto matter of such palpable argumentations and to what Mr. Goodwin hath said hereabout the Reader may please to peruse Page 94 95 96. besides many other places in this reply Mr. Goodwins 17th Consideration is indeed as you have said to this purpose SECT LXXI It doth not ap pear from Scriptures that any Church of Christ was commanded to be dipt reproved for not being dipt therefore high presumption for any to lay their own commands herein upon such penalties as you do c. You have answered it is very true