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A59122 Remarks upon the Reflections of the author of Popery misrepresented, &c. on his answerer, particularly as to the deposing doctrine in a letter to the author of the Reflections, together with some few animadversions on the same author's Vindication of his Reflections. Seller, Abednego, 1646?-1705. 1686 (1686) Wing S2461; ESTC R10424 42,896 75

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c. or that which is directed by the Revelations made in Holy Scriptures and by the unanimous Interpretations made of those Scriptures by the ancient Fathers as the Church of England expresly doth 2. That you follow the methods of the French Church which is so far from being the Catholick Church even in your sence of the word that it is but a small part of it from them you take your Principles from the Bishop of Condom and Monsieur Veron and after their Example you make your complaints of being mis-represented for so the Gallican Bishops did in their late general Assemblies held July 11. An. 1685. complain of being mis-represented and of the Calumnies Injuries and Falsities which the Reformed Churches lay to their charge desiring that King in their Petition prefixt to the Acts of that Assembly to revoke all the Edicts made in behalf of the Hugonots because permitted onely in times of disturbance and for reasons which no longer subsist which though they afterwards modifie and limit onely to the passing an Edict to forbid the calumniating their Religion yet every considering man sees what they aim at And upon this Address the King past an Edict Aug. 23. forbidding all the Reformed to preach or write any thing against the Catholick Religion either directly or indirectly and to allow them the liberty of the Press onely for printing the Confession of their Faith their Prayers and the Rules of their Discipline but no other Books written by the Reformed Divines of that Kingdom and what the effects of that and other Edicts have been every wise Observer hath seen May our blessed and holy Saviour the true and undoubted Head of the Catholick Church heal all the Breaches thereof convert all Hereticks to the knowledge of the Truth shame and bring back all Schismaticks into the Unity of his Mystical Body that we may be one Sheepfold under one Shepherd the Bishop of our Souls Amen FINIS Advertisement of BOOKS Printed for Samuel Smith at the Princes Arms in St. Paul's Church-yard THE Vanity of all Pretences for Tolleration wherein the Late Pleas for Tolleration are fully answered and the Popular Arguments drawn from the Practice of the United Netherlands are stated at large and shewn to be weak fallacious and insufficient Quarto The Book of Bertram or Ratramnus Priest and Monk of Corbey concerning the Body and Bloud of the Lord in Latine With a New English Translation more exact than the former Also an Historical Dissertation concerning the Author and this Work wherein both are vindicated from the Exceptions of the Writers of the Church of Rome Protestancy proved Safer than Popery by a late Convert to the Church of England Miscellanea in quibus Continentur praemonitio ad Lectorem de infantum Communione apud Graecos Defensio Libri de Graecae Eccles statu contra Object Authoris Hist Criticae super fide Ritibus orientalium Brevis succincta Narratio de Vita studiis Gestis Martyrio D. Cyrilli Lucarii Patriarchae Constantinopolitani Commentatio de Hymnis matutino Vespertino Graecorum Exercitatio Theologica de Causis remediisque dissidiorum quae orbem Christianum hodie affligunt Authore Thoma Smith Becles Augl Presbyt 1686. Octavo History of the Original and Progress of Ecclesiastical Revenues By the Learned P. Simon Octavo Enquiry after Happiness by the Author of Practical Christianity Octavo The Duty of Servants containing 1. How Parents ought to breed up their Children that they may be fit to be employed and trusted 2. How Servants may wisely chuse a Service 3. How they are to behave themselves in it in discharging their Duty towards God their Master and themselves with Prayers suited to each Duty To which is added a Discourse of the Sacrament intended chiefly for Servants By the Author of Practical Christianity Octavo Miracles Works above and contrary to Nature or an Answer to a late Translation out of Spinosa's Tractatus Theolog. Politicus Mr. Hobbs's Leviathan c. Quarto A Sermon about Frequent Communion By Dr. Tho. Smith Quarto
Clergy which is equivalent to an act of our Convocation for the agreement will not hold because the dispute is not between the English and the French Church but between the Church of England and the Roman-Catholick Church in this point now we averr that the whole Church of England damns and disowns the Doctrine of Deposing but you tell us that only a part of your Catholick Church doth so too whereas a far greater part own and defend it we assert that it is Heresie to own the Doctrine but you dare not give it that name lest you offend his Holiness Nay it is plain from experience that so far are the Pope and the great men of your Church from condemning the Deposing Doctrine that those few men among you that have been so just and stout as to assert the rights of Princes have fallen under the Church Censures of which I need quote no more instances than Widdrington of old and F. Barnes if he be yet alive and F. Welsh at this present Excommunicate for affirming it to be the Duty of Subjects to Swear Allegiance to their Prince and to defend him even against the Pope himself and all his Censures whereas we daily see the assertors of the Deposing Doctrine not only live and dye in your Communion without Censure but to be the most thriving men and the soonest preferr'd to dignities So very true is that saying of * Ostens err Suares c. 3. n. 1. p. 918. ad cali to 2. de rep Eccl. Marcus Aut. de Dominis Archbishop of Spalato that the Pope and his followers are not pleased with any thing so much as with the rendring the power of Kings vile weak and contemptible to which I will add and the exposing all who defend it And to convince you that you your self have not that venerable Opinion of the Majesty of Princes and the Duty which their Subjects owe them as you ought I cannot but observe that you not only tell us * Pap. repres p. 50. that it is a disputed point among your Doctors as if it were one of those School-points which you mention p. 72. which may be maintain'd this way or that way without any breach of Faith or injury to Religion but withal that whereas upon every other head of Doctrine or Discipline that you represent you are frequent in quotations out of holy Scripture to prove your assertions how pertinently applyed your Adversary hath consider'd upon this head of the deposing power as also when you treat of it more largely than of any other thing in your * Sect. 2. § 4. p. 3. Roman Catholick principles if that Book be yours you quote not one text against Rebellion you confess that Rebellion against a Prince is contrary to the Fundamental Laws of the Nation injurious to Soveraign power destructive to peace and Government and by consequence in his Majesties Subjects impious and damnable where I shall not take notice of your limitation of the proposition to his Majesties Subjects which hath no relation at all to the question whether the Subjects of an Heretical Prince as you account him may not take up Arms against him but why do not you speak out and say it is directly impious and damnable if you will not say it is Heretical being against an express Law of God that binds you to obey even a Nero or a Dioclesian * Rom. 13.5 not only for wrath but for conscience sake that tells you that † 1 Sam. 26.9 no man upon any pretence whatsoever can lift up his hand against the Lords anointed and be guiltless For by your way of arguing if the Fundamental Laws of a Nation may be secured by such a Rebellion and you know the pretence of all Rebels is Liberty and Property and the Government duly setled peace promoted and the Soveraign power i. e. the Monarchy not injured though a particular Monarch may be and yet your Deposing Divines say that it is no injury to an Heretical Prince to depose him but a just Execution of the Laws then a Rebellion may be lawful But upon the principles of the Church of England if all these things could be secured yet no man can be a Rebel but he must be damn'd because the Laws of God forbid Rebellion taking up Arms against a Prince or endeavouring to depose him for as long as the word of God stands firm and the above-cited texts with many others are not blotted out of our Bibles we think it directly damnable and not only by consequence as you do to take Arms against our Soveraign let his Religion be what it will So that upon the whole I cannot but ask you while you have endeavoured to prove Purgatory Invocation of Saints c. from both Scripture and Fathers how happens it that in the defence of the Rights of Princes you quote neither especially when you cannot but remember that the Assertors of the Pope's Temporal Monarchy and his power over Princes are frequent in their doughty arguments from holy Scripture such as God made two great Lights behold here are two Swords Feed my sheep rise Peter kill and eat c. and is there no place to be found in all the sacred Oracles that forbids Rebellion and requires Obedience does not that inspired Book injoyn all Christians * Mat. 22.21 to render to Caesar the things that are Caesar 's and † 1 Pet. 2.13 to submit to every ordinance of Man for the Lord's sake and if you are a Priest are you not requir'd to teach others so to do * Titus 3.1 to put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers to obey Magistrates and to be ready to every good work Is there also nothing in the Fathers that looks this way doth not Tertullian say that a Prince is inferiour only to God doth not Irenaeus aver that by the same power that men are made are Princes constituted Doth not Origen tell Celsus that among the Christians he should not find any act of sedition or tumult notwithstanding all their pressures and persecutions and doth not St. Ambrose say to the Emperor we intreat thee O Prince we do not fight not to multiply quotations And before I leave this head I cannot but remark that whereas the * Part. 3. praecep 4. § 11. Trent Catechism allows that Emperors and Magistrates are called Fathers and so are included in the Commandment Honour thy Father c. which is more than you acknowledge yet they quote no place of Scripture to make this good but the History of Naaman sic Naaman à famulis pater vocabatur where his Servants call him Father which does not look like fair dealing for the Example does not reach the Doctrine unless the Fathers of that Council praevaricate Naaman being a Subject to the King of Syria whereas they might have found without much seeking that * 1 Sam. 24.11 David calls Saul my Father who was his King and in