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A65714 Romish doctrines not from the beginning, or, A reply to what S.C. (or Serenus Cressy) a Roman Catholick hath returned to Dr. Pierces sermon preached before His Majesty at Whitehall, Feb. 1 1662 in vindication of our church against the novelties of Rome / by Daniel Whitbie ... Whitby, Daniel, 1638-1726. 1664 (1664) Wing W1736; ESTC R39058 335,424 421

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also_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d next_o for_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o millenaries_n he_o say_v sect._n 22_o it_o be_v great_a irreverence_n in_o the_o doctor_n to_o charge_v upon_o the_o primitive_a church_n the_o say_n of_o two_o father_n answ_n be_v there_o but_o two_o that_o assert_v it_o may_v you_o not_o have_v find_v in_o the_o renounce_v dally_n papias_n justine_n irenaeus_n tw●ss_n mr._n c_o s_o 18._o in_o his_o letter_n to_o mr._n e●●wich_n to_o dr._n tw●ss_n tertullian_n ambrose_n lactantius_n victorinus_n amphilochius_n to_o who_o mr._n mede_n will_v add_v st._n cyprian_a yea_o and_o to_o boot_n will_v show_v that_o it_o be_v favour_v even_o by_o the_o general_n council_n of_o nice_a and_o at_o last_o st._n jerome_n albeit_o a_o profess_a enemy_n of_o the_o opinion_n will_v add_v that_o multi_fw-la ecclefiasticorum_fw-la virorum_fw-la &_o martyrum_fw-la ista_fw-la dixerunt_fw-la and_o then_o may_v you_o not_o have_v multiply_v your_o two_o into_o two_o hundred_o 2._o 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