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A09097 A conference about the next succession to the crowne of Ingland diuided into tvvo partes. VVhere-of the first conteyneth the discourse of a ciuill lavvyer, hovv and in vvhat manner propinquity of blood is to be preferred. And the second the speech of a temporall lavvyer, about the particuler titles of all such as do or may pretende vvithin Ingland or vvithout, to the next succession. VVhere vnto is also added a new & perfect arbor or genealogie of the discents of all the kinges and princes of Ingland, from the conquest vnto this day, whereby each mans pretence is made more plaine. Directed to the right honorable the earle of Essex of her Maiesties priuy councell, & of the noble order of the Garter. Published by R. Doleman. Allen, William, 1532-1594.; Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610, attributed name. 1595 (1595) STC 19398; ESTC S114150 274,124 500

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he approueth also the same in other realmes vvhen iust occasions are offred either for his seruice the good of the people and realme or els for punishment of the sinnes and wickednes of some princes that the ordinary line of succession be altred Now then to passe on further and to begyn with the kingdomes of Spayne supposing euer this ground of Gods ordenance as hath bin declared first I say that Spayne hath had three or foure races or discents of kings as France also and Ingland haue had and the first race was from the Gothes which began their raigne in Spayne after the expulsion of the Romans about the yeare of Christ 416. to whō the Spaniard referreth al his old nobility as the french man doth to the German Franckes and the Inglish to the Saxons which entred France and Ingland in the very same age that the other did Spayne the race of Gothysh kynges indured by the space of 300. years vntil Spayne was lost vnto the Moores The second race is from Don Pelayo that was chosen first king of Asturias and of the mountayne countrey of Spaine after the distruction therof by the Mootes about the yeare of Christ 〈◊〉 as before hath bin touched which race contynewed increased added kingdome vnto kingdome for the space of other three hundred yeares to wit vntil the yeare of Christ 1034. when Don Sancho may or king of Nauarra at vnto his power the Earldome also of Aragon and Castilia and made them kingdomes and deuided them among his children and to his second sonne named Don Fernando surnamed afterward the great he gaue not only the said Earldome of Castilia with title of kingdome but by mariynge also of the sister of Don Dermudo king of Leon and Asturias he ioyned al those kingdomes together so began from that day forward the third race of the kings of Nauar to reigne in Castel and so indured for syuehundred yeares vntil the yeare of Christ 1540. whē the house of Austria entred to reigne ther by mariage of the daughter and heyre of Don Ferdinando surnamed the Catholique and this was the fourth race of Spanish kings after the Romans which endureth vntil this day And albeit in al thes foure races and ranckes of royal discents diuers exāples might be alleaged for manifest proofe of my purpose yet wil I not deale whith the first race for that it is euident by the councels of Toledo before alleaged which were holden in that very time that in those dayes expresse election was ioyned with succession as by the deposition of king Suintila and putting back of al his children as also by the election approbation of king Sisinando that was further of by succession hath bin insinuated before in the fyft councel of that age in Toledo it is decreed expresly in these wordes Si quis talia meditatus fuerit talking of pretending to be king quem nec electio omnium perficit nec Gothicae gentis nobilitas ad hunc honoris apicem trahit sit consortio Catholicorum priuatus diuino anathemate condemnatus If any man shal imagin said thes fathers or go about to aspire to the kingdome whom the election choise of al the 〈◊〉 doth not make perfect not the nobility of the Gotish nation doth draw to the height of this dignity let him be depriued of al Catholique society and damned by the curse of almighty God by which woords is insinuated that not only the nobility of Gotish blood or neernes by succession was required for the making of ther king but much more the choise or admission of al the realme wherin this councel putteth the perfection of his title The like determinatiō was made in an other councel at the same place before this that I haue alleaged the vvordes are these Nullus apud nos presumptione regnum arripiat sed defuncto in pace principe optimates gentis cum sacerdotibus successorem regni communi concilio constituant Which in Inglish is thus let no man with vs snatche the kingdome by presumption but the former Prince being dead in peace let the nobility of the nation together with the Priests and cleargie appoint the successor of the kingdome by common councel which is as much to say as if he had said let no man enter vppon the kingdome by presumption of succession alone but let the Lords temporal and spiritual by common voice see vvhat is best for the vveal publique Now then according to thes ancient decrees albeit in the second race of Don Pelayo the law of succession by propinquity of blood was renewed and much more established then before as the ancient bishop of Tuys and Molina and other spanish vvriters do testifie yet that the next in blood was oftentymes put back by the common wealth vppon iust causes thes examples following shal testifie as breefly recoūted as I can possibly Don Pelayo died in the yeare of our Lord 737. and left a sonne named Don Fauila who vvas king after his father and reigned two yeares only After whos death none of his children were admited for king thoughe he left diuers as al writers do testifie But as Don Lucas the Bishop of Tuy a very ancient author vvriteth Aldefonsus Catholicus ab vniuer so populo Gothorum eligitur that is as the chronicler Moralis doth translat in spanish Don Alonso surnamed the Catholique was chosen to be king by al voices of the Gotish nation This Don Alonso was sonne in law to the former king Fauila as Morales sayeth for that he had his daughter Erneenesenda in mariage he was preferred before the kings owne sonnes only for that they were yonge vn-able to gouerne as the said historiographer restifyeth And how wel this fel out for the cōmon wealth and how excellent a king this Don Alonso proued Morales sheweth at large from the tenth chapter of his thirteenth booke vntil the 17. and Sebastianus Bishop of Salamança that liued in the same tyme writeth that of his valiant acts he was surnamed the great To this famons Don Alonso succeded his sonne Don Fruela the first of that name who was a noble king for 10. yeares space and had diuers excellent victories against the Moores but afterward declining to tyrannie he became hate ful to his subiects and for that he put to death wrongfully his owne brother Don Vimerano a Prince of excellent partes and rarely beloued of the Spaniards he was him selfe put downe and put to death by them in the yeare of Christ 768. And albeit this kyng left two goodly children behinde him which were lawfully begotten vppō his Queene Dona Munia the one of them a sonne called Don Alonso the other a daughter called Dona Ximea yet for the hatred conceaued against ther father neyther of them was admitted by the realme to succede him but rather his cosen german named Don Aurelio
handle her tytle to the crowne of Ingland and the third dyd answer the booke of Ihon Knox the Scott intituled against the monstruous gouerment of women Of al vvhich three pointes for that the second that conserneth the tytle is that vvhich properly appertayneth to out purpose and for that the same is handled agayne and more largely in the second booke set out not longe after by Ihon lesley lord bishope of Rosse in Scotland vvho at that tyme was Embassador for the saide Queene of Scottes in Ingland and handled the same matter more abundantly vvhich M. Morgan had donne before hym I shal saye no more of this booke of M. Morgan but shal passe ouer to that of the bishope vvhich in this point of succession conteyneth also vvhat soeuer the other hath so as by declaring the contentes of the one vve shal come also to see vvhat is in the other The intent then of this book of the bishope of Rosse is to refute the other booke of Hales and Bacon and that especially in the two points before mentioned which they alleaged for their principles to witt about forrayne birth and king Henries testament And against the first of these two pointes the bishop alleageth many proofes that ther is no such maxima in the cōmon lawes of Ingland to disherit a prince borne out of the land from his or her right of succession that they haue by blood And this first for that the statute made for barring of alliens to inherit in Ingland vvhich was in the 25. yeare of the reigne of king Edward the third is only to be vnderstood of particuler mens inheritance and no wayes to be extended to the succession of the crowne as by comparison of many other like cases is declared and secondly for that ther is expresse exception in the same statute of the kings children and of spring and thirdly for that the practise hath alwayes bin contrary both before and after the conquest to vvit that diuers princes borne out of the realme haue succeded The other principle also concerning king Henryes testament the bishop impugneth first by diuers reasons incongruities vvherby it may be presumed that king Henry neuer made any such testament and if he did yet could it not hold in law And secondly also by vvitnes of the Lord Paget that was of the priuy councel in those dayes of Sir Edward Montague lord chiefe iustice and of one VVilliam Clark that set the kings stamp to the writing al which anowed before the councel and parlament in Queene Maryes tyme that the said testament vvas signed after the king vvas past sense and memory And finally the said bishop concludeth that the line of Scotland is the next euery way both in respect of the house of Lancaster and also of York for that they are next heyres to K. Henry the eight who by his father was heyre to the house of Lancaster and by his mother to the house of york But after these three bookes was vvritten a fourth by one Robart Highinton secretary in tyme past to the Earle of Northumberland a man wel read in storyes and especially of our coūtrey who is said to be dead some yeares past in Paris This man impugneth al three formet bookes in diuers principal points and draweth the crowne from both their pretendors I meane as wel from the house of Scotland as from that of Suffolk and first against the booke of Hales and Sir Nicholas Bacon writen as hath bin said in fauour of the house of Suffolk Heghington holdeth with the Bishop and Morgan that thes two principles layd by the other of forayne birth and of king Henries restament against the Scotish line are of no Validity as nether ther reasons for legitrimating of the Earle of Hartfords children vvhich afterward shal be handled And secondly he is against bothe Morgan the Bishop of Rosse also in diuers important points and in the very principal of al for that this man I meane Highington maketh the king of Spayne to be the next and most righful pretender by the house of Lancaster for proofe vvherof he holdeth first that king Henry the 7. had no title in deede to the crowne by Lācaster but only by the house of York that is to saye by his marriage of Queene Elizabeth elder daughter to king Edward the fourth for that albeit himselfe were discended by his mother from Iohn of Gaunt duke of Lancaster yet this vvas but by his third vvife Catherin Swynford and that the true heyres of Blanch his first vvife duches and heyre of Lācaster to whom sayth he apperteyned only the successiō after the death of king Henry the sixth and his sonne with whom ended the line male of that house remayned only in Portugal by the mariage of Lady Phillip daughter of the foresaid Blanch to kinge Ihon the first of Portugal that for as much as king Phillip of Spaine saith this man hath now succeded to al the righte of the kings of Portugal to him appertayneth also the only right succession of the house of Lancaster and that al the other discendents of king Henry the 7. are to pretend only by the title of Yorke I meane aswel the line of Scotland as also of Suffolk and Huntington for that in the house of Lancaster king Phillip is euidently before them al. Thus holdeth Heghington alleaginge diuers stories arguments and probabilities for the same then adioyneth two other propositions which do importe most of al to vvit that the title of the house of Lancaster was far better then that of York not for that Edmond Crokback first founder of the house of Lancaster vvho was sonne to king Henry the third and brother to king Edward the first was eldest to the said Edward and iniurioufly put back for his deformity in body as both the said bishop of Rosse and George Lylly do falsly hold and this man refuteth by many good arguments but for that lohn of Gaunt Duke of Lancaster being the eldest sonne that King Edward the third had a liue when he dyed should in right haue succeded in the crowne as this man holdeth and should haue bin preferred before Richard the second that was the black princes sonne vvho vvas a degree further of from king Edward the third his grandfather then vvas lohn of Gaunt to whom king Edward vvas father and by this occasion this man cometh to discusse at large the opinions of the lawyers vvhether the vncle or the nephew should be preferred in the succession of a crowne to vvit vvhether the yonger brother or the elder brothers sonne if his father be dead vvithout being seased of the same which is a point that in the ciuil law hath great disputation and many great authors on each side as this man sheweth and the matter also wanteth not examples on both pattes in the succession of diuets Inglish kings as our frend the ciuil lawyer did signifie also in his discourse
for that I do not thinke it to be improbable which this author and others do note to wit that most nations round about haue taken their particuler formes of anoynting and crowning their kings from this anciēt custome of France though the substance therof I meane of ther sacring and anoynting be deduced from examples of far more antiquity to wit from the very first kings among the people of Israel whō God caused to be anoynted by his priestes and prophets in token of his election and as a singuler priuiledge of honor and preheminence vnto them wherof king Dauid made so great accōpt when he said to the souldiar that had killed Saul his enimye in the warr quare non timuisti mittere manum tuam in Christum Domini VVhy diddest thow not feare to lay thy hands vppon the anoynted of God and he put him to death for it notwithstanding that Saul had bin long before deposed and reiected by God and that himselfe had lawfully borne armes against him for many daies so much was that ceremony of anoynting estemed in thos dayes so hath it bin euer since among christian people also for that kings hereby are made sacred and do not only perticipate vvith priests but also vvith Christ himselfe vvho hath his name of this circumstance of anoynting as al the vvorld knoweth Probable then I say it is that albeit the substance of this ceremony of anoynting kings be much elder then the christian kingdome of France yer is this partic uler and maiestical manner of doing the same by waye of coronation the most ancient in France aboue al other kingdomes round about especialy if it began vvith ther first christian king Clodouaeus not ful 500. yeares after Christ as french authors do hold At what tyme also they recount a great miracle of holy oyle sent from heauen by an angel for anoynting Clodouaeus vvherof they say they haue stil remaining for the anoynting of their kings at Rhemes vvhich point I vvil not stand to treat or discoursein this place but rather wil refer my reader to the foresaid chapter of Francis Belforest chonicler of Frāce vvho alleageth diuers vvriters of almost 500. yeares antiquitie that write of the same but howsoeuer that be very probable it semeth that al the ceremoneys of coronation in Germany Polonia before recited which had ther beginning long after the reigne of Clodouaeus might be taken frō thence and so the affinity and likenes of the one to the other doth seeme to agree and Garribay also the chronicler of Spayne and of Nauarra in his 22. booke talking of this custome of anoynting and crowning the kings of Nauarra saith that this excellent custome began ther I meane in Nauarra aboue 800. yeares past and vvas brought in by certaine Earles of Champayn of France named Theobaldes who comming to attayne that crowne brought with them that reuerent ceremony of anoyntig crowning ther kings according to the vse of the French which custome endureth vntil this day in that part of Nauarra that is vnder the house of Vandome albeit in the other that is vnder the Spaniardes which is far the greater it vvasleft of in the yeare 1513. When Ferdinande surnamed the Catholique king of spayne entred ther-vppon for that the Spanish kings are neuer anoynted nor crowned but otherwise admitted by the common vvealth as before I haue declared But among al other kingdomes it semeth that Ingland hath most particularly taken this custome and ceremony from France not only for the reason before alleaged that diuers of our Inglish kings haue come out of France as William Conqueror borne in Normandy king Stephen sonne to the Earle of Blois and Bollen a French man and king Henry the second borne likwise in France and sonne to the Earle of Aniou but also for that in very deede the thing it selfe is al one in both nations and albeit I haue not sene any particuler booke of this action in Ingland as in French ther is yet it is easy to gather by storyes what is vsed in Ingland about this affaire For first of al that the Archbishop of Canterbury doth ordinarily do thes ceremony in Inland as the Archbishop of Rhemes doth it in France ther is no doubte with the same solemnity and honor according to the condition and state of our countrey and Polidor Virgil in his story noteth that pope Alexander did interdict and suspend the Archbishop of Yorke with his two assistants the bishops of Londō Salisbury for that in the absence of Thomas Becket Archbishop of Canterbury and without his licence they did crowne king Henry the seconds sonne named also Henry at his fathers perswation and diuers do attribute the vnfortunate successe of the said king Henry the yonger that rebelled against his father to this disorderly and violent coronation by his fathers appointment secondly that the first thing which the said Archbishop requireth at the new kings hands at his coronatiō is about religion church matters and the cleargie as in France vve haue seene it appereth euidently by thes vvords which the same Archbishop Thomas surnamed commonly the martyr remayninge in banishment vvrote to the same king Henry the second which are thes Memores sitis confessionis quam fecistis posuistis super altare apud westmonsterium de seruanda Ecclesiae libertate quando consecrati fuistis vncti in regem à praedecessore nostro Thebaldo Which is do you cal to your remembrance the confession which you made and laid vppon the aulter at vvestminster for keping defending the libertie of the church when you vvere consecrated and annoynted king by Thebaldus our predecessor By which wordes appereth that as the king of Ingland vvas consecrated and annoynted in thos dayes by the Archbishop of Canterbury so did he sweare and giue vp his oth also in vvriting and for more solemnity and obligation layd it downe or rather offered it vp vvith his owne handes vppon the aulter so much as vvas repuired of him by the said Archbishop cleargie for the special safety of religion and theis ecclesiastical liberties which is the selfe same pointe that vve haue sene before as vvel in the oth of the kings of France as also of Polonia and Spayne and of the Emperors both Grecian and German The very like admonition in effect I finde made by an other Thomas Archbishop of Canterbury to an other king Henry to wit by Thomas Arundel to king Henry the fourth vvhen in a parlament holden at Couentry in the yeare 1404. the king vvas tempted by certayne temporal men to take away the temporalityes from the cleargie Wherunto vvhen the said Archbishop Thomas had answered by diuers reasons at last turning to the king he besought him saith Stow to remember the oth which he voluntarily made that he would honor defend the church and ministers therof VVherfore he desired him to permit and
person vvho by succession of blood is next may be vnable or vnfit or pernicious to gouerne in vvhich cases the remedy is as before hath bin declared ether to helpe and assist him by lawes directions and vvise councells if he be capable therunto or els to remoue him and take in another of the same blood royal though further of in degree or propinquity in his place And this is and hath bin the custome and practice of al kingdomes and common vvealthes from the beginning since succession hath bin established among them as afterwards I shal demōstrate vnto you by great store of euident examples and presidentes by this meanes vve come to remedy the difficulties and inconueniences of both kindes of making our kings and princes vvhich are election and succession as hath bin said for by succession vve do remedy the inconueniences and dangers before mentioned of bare election to vvit of strife banding ambition and the like and by this other meane of adding also election consent and approbation of the realme to succession vve remedy the inconueniences of bare succession alone vvhich inconueniences are principaly that some vn-apt impotent or euel prince may be offered some times to enter by priority of blood vvherof the realme may deliuer it selfe by this other meanes of not admitting him so as election by succession and succession agayne by election is salued the one made a preseruatiue and treacle to the other this is the vvisdome and high policie left by God and nature to euery common vvealth for ther owne conseruation and maintenance and euery man that is of reason and iudgment and void of passion wil not only allow but also highly commend the same Now then to answere in particuler to the two questions made at the beginning of this speech to vvit vvhat is to be attributed to succession alone and secondly vvhat interest a prince hath ther-by to any crowne before he be crowned or admitted by theō cmon vveath To the first I say that to succession alone or priority of blood only great honor reuerence and respect ought to be borne as before hath bin declared for that it is the principal circumstance and condition vvhich leadeth vs to the next succession of the crowne infalibly and vvithout al strife if his propinquity be cleare and euident and that other necessary circumstances and conditions do concurr also in the same person vvhich condicions vvere appointed and set downe at the same time and by the same authority that this law of succession vvas established for that both the one the other of thes two points vvere ordeyned by the common vvealth to vvit that the elder and first in blood should succeede and that he should be such a person as can and vvil gouerne to the publique vveale of al as often and largely before hath bin auouched and proued To the second question I answere that an heyre apparent to a crowne before his coronation and admission by the realme if he haue the conditions before required hath the same interest to the kingdome vvhich the king of Romans or Caesar hath to the Germane empyre after his election and before he be crowned or to vse a more familier example to Inglish men as the Mayor of London hath to the mairalrie after he is chosen and before he be admitted or haue taken his oth For as this man in 〈◊〉 is not truly mayor nor hath not his iurisdiction before his oth and admission nor the other is properly Emperor before he be crowned so is not an heyte apparent truly king though his predecessor be dead and he next in succession vntil he be crowned or admitted by the common vvealth An other example is ther in mariage also vvherby our matter is made more playne for in this contract go both the betrothing and actual ioyning together of the parties in wedlock the first is dōne by wordes de futuro or for the time to come and is not properly mariage but espousal only the other is by vvords de presenti that is by mutual present consent giuen of both parties and this seconde is only and properly true mariage which two points are expresly represented in the state of an heyre apparent and of a crowned king for that the heyre apparent by propinquity of blood is only espoused or betrothed to the common wealth for the time to come and is marryed afterwards by present mutual consent of both parties in the contract and knitting vp of the matter at his coronation by the othes vvhich ether part maketh the one to take the other by puting on the ring and other wedding garments before mentioned in ther coronations by al vvhich the heyre apparent vvhich before vvas but espouse is made now the true king and husband of the common vvealth vvhich before he was not by only succession but only a betrothed spouse or designed king as hath bin declared Wherfore it followeth also that the commō vvealth oweth no allegeance or subiection vnto the heyre apparent in rigour of iustice vntil he be crowned or admitted though his predecessor be dead for that in very deede vntil that time he is not ther true king soueraine though for better keping of order auoyding of tumults al common wealthes lightly that haue ther princes by succession haue ordeyned in thes later ages that from the death of the former princes al matters of gouerment shal passe in the name of his next successor if his succession be cleere and this as I say for auoyding of garboyles and vnder supposal of confirmation and approbation afterward of the cōmon wealth at his coronatiō for which cause also and for better accompt of yeares it was ordeyned that the beginning of the successors reigne should be reconed from the day of the death of his predecessor and not from the day of his coronation as otherwise in rigor it ought to be and as in old time it was accustomed to be as Girard secretary and chronicler of France doth wisely note in his third booke of the estate and affaires of France to wit that kings in old time vvere vvotit to accompt the yeares of ther reignes from the day only of ther annoynting and coronation This pointe also that heyres apparent are not true kings vntil ther coronatiou how iust soeuer thet title of succession otherwise be and though ther predecessors be dead it might be confirmed by many other arguments but especially and aboue al others for that the realme is asked agayne three times at their coronatiō whether they wil haue such a māto be king or no as before hath bin shewed which thing vvere in vayne to aske if he vvere truly king as Belloy sayeth before his coronation Againe we see in al the formes and different manners of coronations before recited that after the prince hath sworne diuers times to gouerne wel and iustly then do the subiects take other othes
frosard sayeth he had but three shippes only out of Britanie and Walsingham saith he had but 15. Lances and 400. footmen and the additions to Polychronicon as before I noted do auouch that when he landed at Rauenspurt in the county of Yorke he had but threescore men in al to begin the reformation of his realme against so potent a tyrant as King Richard was then accompted and yet vvas the concourse of al people so great and general vnto him that within few dayes he achiued the matter and that without any battaile or bloodshed at al thus much for the iustnes of the cause But now if we vvil consider the manner and forme of this act they of Lancaster do affirme also that it could not be executed in better nor more conuenient order First for that it vvas done by the choise and inuitation of al the realme or greater and better parte therof as hath bin said Secondly for that is vvas done vvithout slaughter and thirdly for that the king vvas deposed by act of parlament and himselfe conuinced of his vnworthy gouerment and brought to confesse that he vvas vvorthely depriued and that he vvillingly and freely resigned the same nether can their be any more circumstances required saye these men for any lavvful deposition of a Prince And if any man wil yet obiect and saye that notwithstanding al this their vvas violence for that duke Henry was armed and by force of armes brought this to passe they of Lancaster do answere that this is true that he brought the matter to an Roboam for the sinnes of Salomon his father and yet spare him also in parte for the sake of his grand father Dauid he caused a rebellion to be raysed against him by Ieroboam his seruant and more then three partes of foure of his people to rebell against him and this by Gods owne instinct and motion and by his expresse allowance therof after it vvas done as the scripture auoucheth and if Roboam had fought against them for this fault as once he had thought to do and vvas prepared vvith a mayne army no doubt but they might haue lawfully stayne him for that now these tenn tribes that for-sooke him had iust authority to depose him for his euel gouerment and for not yealding to their iust request made vnto him for easing them of those greuous tributes laid vppon them as the scripture reporteth For albeit God had a meaning to punish him for the sinnes of his father Salomon yet suffred he that Roboam also should giue iust occasion him selfe for the people to leaue him as appereth by the story and this is Gods highe vvisdome iustice prouidence and swete disposition in humane affaires An other example of punishing and deposing euel Princes by force they do alleage out of the first booke of kings wher God appointed Elizens the Prophet to send the sonne of an other Prophet to annoynt Iehu Captaine of Ioram king of Israel vvhich Ioram was sonne to the Queene Iezabel and to persuade Iehu to take armes against his said king and against his mother the Queene and to depriue them both not only of their kingdomes but also of their liues and so he did for the scripture saith Coniurauit ergo Iehu contra Ioram Iehu did coniure and conspite at the persuasion of this Prophet vvith the rest of his fellow Captaines against his king Ioram and Queene Iezabel the kinges mother to put them downe and to put them to death with al the ignomy he could deuise and God allowed therof and perswaded the same by so holy a Prophet as Elizeus vvas wherby we maye assure our selues that the fact was not only lawfull but also most godly albeit in it selfe it might seeme abhominable And in the same booke of kings within two chapters after there is an other example how God moued loiada high priest of Ierusalem to persuade the Captaines and Coronels of that cittye to conspire against Athalia the Queene that had reigned 6. yeares and to arme them selues with the armor of the temple for that purpose and to beseige the pallace wher she lay and to kill al them that should offer or goe about to defend her so they did and hauing taken her aliue she vvas put to death also by sentence of the said high priest and the fact vvas allowed by God and highly commended in the scripture and Ioas yong king of the blood royal was crowned in her place al this might haue bin done as you see without such trouble of armes bloodshed if God vvould but he appointed this seueral meanes for working of his wil and for releeuing of common wealthes oppressed by euel princes And this seemeth sufficient proofe to these men that king Richard of Ingland might be remoued by force of armes his life and gouerment being so euel and pernitious as before hath bin shewed It remayneth then that vve passe to the second principal pointe proposed in the begining vvhich was that supposing this depriuation of king Richard vvas iust and lawful vvhat house by right should haue succeded him ether that of lācaster as it did or the other of Yorke And first of al it is to be vnderstood that at that very tyme vvhen king Richard vvas deposed the house of Yorke had no pretence or little at al to the crowne for that Edmond Mortimer earle of march nephew to the lady Phillip vvas then aliue with his sister Anne Mortymer marryed to Richard earle of Cambrige by vvhich Anne the howse of Yorke did after make their clayme but could not do so yet for that the said Edmond her brother was liuing and so continued many yeares after as appeareth for that wee reade that he vvas aliue 16. yeares after this to witt in the third yeare of the raigne of king Henry the fift vvhen his said brother in law Richard earle of Cambrigs vvas put to death in South-hampton vvhom this Edmond appeached as after shal be shewed and that this Edmond vvas now earle of March when king Richard vvas deposed and not his father Roger as Polidot mistaketh is euident by that that the said Roger vvas slayne in Ireland a litle before the depositiō of King Richard to witt in the yeare 1398. and not many monethes after he had bin declared heyre apparent by king Richard and Rogers father named Edmond also husband of the lady Phillip dyed some three yeares before him that is before Roger as after wil be seene so as seing that at the deposition of king Richard this Edmond Mortimer elder brother to Anne was yet liuing the question cannot be whether the house of Yorke should haue entred to the crowne presently after the depriuation of kinge Richard for they had vet no pretence as hath bin shewed but whether this Edmond Mortimer as heyre of Leonel duke of Clarence or els Henry the duke of Lancaster heyre of Iohn of Gaunt should haue entred For as for
vvhich they hold that he is excluded by the common lawes of Ingland from succession to the crowne for that the said lawes do bar al strangers borne out of the realme to inherite within the land and this is an argumēt hādled very largely betweene the foresaid bookes of M. Hales M. Morgan and my lord of Rosse for that the same doth concerne much the pretentions and claymes of diuers others that be strangers also by birth and yet do pretend to this succession as before hath bin declared I shal repeate breefly in this place the summe of that vvhich is alleaged of both parties in this behalfe First then to the general assertion that no stranger at al may inherite any thing by any meanes in Ingland the said bookes of M. Morgan my lord Rosse do answere that in that vniuersal sense it is false for that it appeareth playnely by that vvhich is ser downe by law in the seuēth nynth yeares of king Edward the fourth in the eleuēth fourteēth of K. Hēry the fourth that a stranger may purchase land in Ingland as also that he may inherite by his wife if he should marry an inheritrix Secondly they saye that the true maxima or rule against the inheritance of strangers is grounded only vppon a statute made in the 25. yeare of king Edward the third and is to be restrayned vnto proper inheritances only to wit that no person borne our of the allegeance of the king of Ingland whose father and mother vvere not of the same allegeance at the tyme of his birth for so are the wordes of the statute shal be able to haue or demande any heritage vvith in the same alleageance as heyre to any person Thirdly they say that this axiome or general rule cannot any way touch or be applied to the succession of the crowne first for that as hath bin declared before no axiome or maxima of our law can touch or be vnderstood of matters concerning the crowne except expresse mention be made therof and that the crowne is 〈◊〉 in many pointes that other priuate heritages be not And secondly for that the crowne cannot properly be called an inheritance of allegeance or vvithin allegeance as the wordes of the said statute do stande for that it is not holdē of any superiour nor vvith allegeance but immediatly from God And thirdly for that the statute meaneth plainly of inheritances by discent for otherwise as is said an allien may hold landes by purchase but the crowne is a thing incorporate and discendeth not according to the cōmon course of other priuate inheritances but rather goeth by succession as other incorporations do in signe wherof no king can by law auoide his letters patents by reason of his nonage as other common heyres vnder age do but he is euer presumed to be of ful age in respect of his crowne euen as a prior parson deane or other head incorporat is vvhich can neuer be presumed to be vvithin age and so as any such head incorporate though he be an allien might inherite or demaund landes in this discourse is set downe and especially by the testimonie of the L. Paget and Syr Edward Montague that said the stamp was put vnto it after the king vvas past sense yet they of the house of Suffolke are not satisfied vvith that answere for that they say that at least howsoeuer that matter of the late sealing be yet seing the king willed it to be donne drawen out and sealed it appeareth hereby that this was the last vvil and iudgment of king Henry and not reuoked by hym vvhich is sufficient saye these men to answere the intent and meaning of the realme and the authority committed to him by the foresaid two acts of parlament for the disposing of the succession vvhich tvvo acts say these men conteyning the vvhole authority of the common vvealth so seriously and deliberately giuē in so weightie an affaire may not in reason be deluded or ouer throwne now by the saying of one or two men who for pleasing or contenting of the tyme wherin they spake might say or gesse that the kings memorie vvas past vvhen the stampe was put vnto his testament vvhich if it vvere so yet if he commanded as hath byn saide the thing to be done vvhile he had memory as it may appeare he did both by the wittnesses that subscribed and by the enrolement therof in the chancery no man can deny but that this vvas the kings last wil vvhich is cnoughe for satisfying the parlamēts intention as these men do affirme A fourth argument is made against the king of Scotts succession by al the other competitors iointly and it seemeth to them to be an argument that hath no solution or reply for that it is grounded vppon a playne fresh statute made in the parlament holden in the 27. yeare if I erre not of her Maiesty that now is vvherin is enacted decreed that whosoeuer shal be cōuinced to conspire attempt or procure the death of the Queene or to be priuy or accessatie to the same shal loose al right title pretence clay me or action that the same parties or their heyrcs haue or may haue to the crowne of Ingland Vppon which statute seing that afterward the lady Mary late Queene of Scotlād mother of this king was condemned and executed by the authority of the said parlament it seemeth euident vnto these men that this king vvho pretendeth al his right to the crowne of Ingland by his said mother can haue none at al. And these are the reasons proofes arguments which diuers men do alleage against the right of succession pretended by the king of Scots But nowe if we leaue this pointe which concerneth the very right it self of his succescession by blood wil come to examine other reasons and considerations of state and those in particuler vvhich before I haue mentioned that his fauourers do alleage for the vtility and common good that may be presumed will rise to the realme of Ingland by his admission to our crowne as also the other point also of establishment of religiō by them mētioned then I say these other mē that are against his entrance do produce many other reasons and considerations also of great inconueniences as to them they seeme against this pointe of his admission and their reasons are these that follow First touching the publique good of the Inglish common wealth by the vniting of both realmes of Ingland Scotland together these men do saye that it is very doubtful and disputable whether the state of Ingland shal receaue good or harme therby if the saide vnion could be brought to passe First for that the state and condition of Scotlād wel cōsidered it seemeth that it can bring no other commodity to Ingland then increase of subiects and those rather to participate the commodities and riches of Ingland then to impart any from Scotland And then secondly
with the course of that Lord hitherto and do thinke that they should do much better with his brother if so be he shal be thought more fitt yet are thease things vncertaine as we see but not withstanding such is the nature and fashon of man to hope euer great matters of youthes especially Princes God send al iust desires to take place and with this I wil ende and passe no further hoping that I haue performed the effect of my promisse made vnto you at the beginninge FINIS A ●●rfect and exact Arbor and genea●●gie of al the Kynges Queenes and Prin●●● of the blood royal of Englād from the t●me of William the conqueror vnto our t●●e wherby are to be seene the groundes o●● the pretenders to the same crowne at thi●●aye accordinge to the booke of M. R. D●●man set foorthe of the sayde pretenders and their seueral claymes this present yeare 1594. The ancient howses of the blood royal of England are the howse of Lancaster that beareth the redd rose and the howse of Yorke that beareth the vvhyte and then the howse of Britanie and France ioyned in one And out of these are made fiue particular howses which are the howse of Scotlād of Suffolke of Clarence of Britanie of Portugal and in these are twelue different persons that by waye of succission do pretende eche one of thē to be next after her Maiestie that now is as by the booke appeareth Polyd in vita H. s. Occasiōs of meeting The matter of succession discussed M. Bromely M. V Vērvvorth Tvvo lavvers Many pre tendors to the crovvne of Inglād Successiō doubtful vvhy Three or fovver principal heades of praetendors 1. Lancaster 2. Yorke 3. The tvvo houses ioyned Circumstances of the tyme present The Roman conclaue Successiō includeth also some kinde of election Of this more aftervvards Cap 4. 5. Neernes only in blood not sufficient More to be considered besides succession in the pretendors Tvvo principal pointes handled in this booke Tvvo partes of this conference Bellay apollog pro reg cap. 20. Not only successiō sufficient That no perticuler forme of gouermēt is of natu re To liue in company is natural to man the groūd of al com mō vvealthes Plato de repub Cicero de repub Aristotle polit Diuers praefes 1. Inclinatiō vniuersal Pompon Mesa lib. 3. cap. 3. 4 Tacit. l. 8. 2. Aristot. l. 1. pol. c. 1. 2. 3. 4. Imbecilility of man Theoph. lib. de Plaut Plu tarch cōde fortuna lib. de pietatem in parent Note this saying of Aristotle 4. The vse of iustice and Frēship Cicero lib. de amicitia The vse of charity helping one an other August lib. de amicitia Gen. 2. v. 18. That gouermēt iurisdiction of Magestrats is also of nature Necessity Iob 10. v. 12. 2. Consent of natiōs Cicero li. 1. de natu ra Deorū 3. The ciuil lavv Lib. 1. digest tit 2. 1. Scripture Prou. 2. Rom. 13. Particuler forme of gouermēt is free Arist. li. 2. polit Diuersitie of gouerment in diuers cōtryes and tymes Rome Africa Greece Italie Dukes for kings and kings for dukes Spayne Boeme Polonia England The Ievves lib. Genes Lib. Exo. Lib. Iob. Lib. Iud. Lib. 1. Reg. Lib. Machab The realme chuseth her forme of gouermēt The common vvealth limiteth the gouernors authority A Natural Prince A monarchy the best gouerment A rist li. 4. pol. a. c. 9. Seneca Plutarch The antiquity of Monarchy 1 Reg. 8. Dionys. Haly l. 5. Cornel. Tacit. l. 3. Cicero l. 1. Offic. Hierom. l. 2. epist. 12 Chrisost. ho. 23. 1. Pet. 2. Tvvo poyntes to be noted Hovv S. Peter calleth a king most excellent Vtilites of a kingdome and in conueniences of other gouermentes Cicerol x offic Democratia Miseries of populer gouerment in Italy Aristocratia 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 l. 30. Eutrop. l. 3. Oros. l. 5. 6. The cause vvhy lavves be added to Kings Arist. l. 3. pol. c. vlt. A notable saying Arist. l. 3. Pol. c. 12. Arist. l. 1. Pol. c. 2. Diuers names propeties of lavves Cie lib. 2. offic Lavv is the discipline of a vveale pu blique Psal. 2. The Coūcels of Princes a great healp Arist. l. 4. Pol. c. 10. The monarchie of Inglad rēpered The restraints of kingly po vver in al estates Roman Kings Liu. lib. 1. dec 1. Grecian kings Arist. li. 2. c. 8. polit Plutarch in Lycurg Cic. lib. 2. 〈◊〉 Ciclib 3. de 〈◊〉 Restraints of kingdomes in Europe Sleydan lib. 8. An. 1532. Blond Di cad 2. li. 3 Crant li. cap. 25. Kingdomes of polonia and Boemia Herbert li. 9. hist. Polon Cromerus lib. 3. Hist. Polon Kinges of Spayne Fraunce and Ingland Concil blet 4. c. 74. cōcil s. c. 3. Peculiar manner of succession An. 1340. Paul Anil hist. Franc. l. 2. Gerard. du Hayllan lib. 14 hist. Frāc Fran. Belfor llb. 5. cap. 1. An. 1327. Reasons for succession of vvomen The infanta of Spayne Prince of Lorayne Gerard du Haillan Lib. 13. Hist. Frāc Anno 1317. lib. 14. An. 1328. lib. 3. de l'Estat defrunaee Kings lavvfully possessed may be depriued A markable circūstance Agaynst rebellious people and contemnors of Princes 〈◊〉 flateries 〈◊〉 by Bellay others Belloy in apolog cath apolog pro rege The purpose of the next Chapter Tvvo pointes to be proued Nothing hear spokē against devv respect to Princes Depriuations of kings recounted in scriptu re 1. Reg. 31. 4. Reg. 21. 44. King Iosias 2. Paralip 34. 〈◊〉 2. Paralip 35. King Dauid Xenophō in Cyropaed Nich. Machal l. 2. c. 2. in Tit. Liuius August l. de Gran. The vvisdome and piety of King Dauid 1. Paralip 15. 1. Psal. 24. 25. Thearmes of King Dauid His valor in chiualry King Dauides victoires 2. Reg. 8. Paral. 18 〈◊〉 2. Reg. 23 Ioseph l. 7 antiq c. 10 2. Reg. 7. His humi lity charity and dc uotion Kings pur doune among the romās vvhat successors they had Halicar l. 1. Tertul. li. de praescrip contta haeres Iustin. martyr apolog Tit. liu li. 1. dec 〈◊〉 Eutrop. l. 1. Caesar Au gustus Dion in Caesa. Sueton in Caesa. Nero Vespatian Cornel. Tacit. lib. 20. 21. Egesip l. 5 Eutrop. in vita Caesa. Heliogabolus An. Dn̄i 124. Alius lāp in vita Heliog Alexāder Seuerus Herod in vit seuen Maxētiua Constantin The chan ge of the east empy re Charles the greate An. 800. Tvvo changs in France Belfor l. 1 Girard l. 3 AEmil l. 2 Clem. Baudin en la chro mique des Roys de France Reasons of depriuation Hugo 〈◊〉 anno 988. Examples of Spayne Concil Tolet. 4. cap. 4. Ambros moral 1. II cap. 17. Isidor in 〈◊〉 hispan Esteuan de Garibay 1. 13 de la hist. de Espa. c. 15. Tabulae Astron. Alfonsinae King Don Alonso deposed Don Pedro cruel deposed Garibay l. 14. c. 40. 41. In Portugal King Dō Sancho 2. deposed Garibay lib. 4 de hist. Portug c. 19. Lib
nature Gen 8. Iob. 1. The chife end of a common vvealth magestrates is religion Genebrard l 1. Chronolde 1 aetate Genes 25. 20. Deut. 21. 2. Paral. 〈◊〉 Regard of religion among gentiles Cicero li. 1. quest tusc. de natura deorum lib. 1. Plutarch aduersus Colotem Aristo l 7 politi c. 8. The absurd Athisemo of our tyme in politiques See before the othes made by princes at their coronations in the 4. chapter The oth to gouernors for defence of religion Collat 2. Nouella constit Iuflin 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Note the forme of this othe vvryten An Dn̄i 560. Hovv great a defect is vvant of religion in a Magestrate Lack of religion the chefest cause to exclud a pretendor Vide Digest li. 23. fit 1 leg 8 10. Math. 14. Marc. 10. 1. Cor. 7. Lib. 4. decret Greg. tit 19. c. 7. VVhether 〈◊〉 in religiō be infidelity Act 23. 1. Cor. 8. 2. Cor. 5. 3. Pet. 3. Math. 18. Hovv he that doth agaynst his ovvne consciēce sinneth Rom. 14. 1. Cor. 8. 10. See vppō this place of S. Paul S. Chrisost hom 36. in 〈◊〉 epistolā Orig. l. to Theodor. in hune locum Hovv dāgrous to fauour a pretender of a contrary religion Against vvisdom and policy to preferre 〈◊〉 prince of a contrary religiē The conclusion of the vvhole speech A protestation of the lavvyer VVhy the vvil not determyne of any one title The book of Hales and Sir Nicholas Bacon The but of Hales book First reason 2. Reasun The booke of M. Morgan and iudge Browne Ansvver to the 1. reason To the 2. reason Heghingtons booke George Lilly in fine Epitchronic Anglic. Sundry importag pointes Diuers other notes and pampletes Sir Richard Shelly Franc. Peto A treatise in the behalfe of the Infāta of spaine Discent of V Villiam the Conqueror The children of the conqueror Polid. 1. 2. in fine Stovv in vita Guliel The miseries of Duke Robert and his sonne Stovv in vit Gul. Cōquest VVilliam soune of Duke Robett Belfor 1. 3. cap. 42. An. 1128. King VVilliam Rufus 〈◊〉 l. 2 del hist. del mondo K. Henry Polydor. in vita Henrici 1. The house of Britany by the elder daughter of the Conqueror Belfor l. 3 Pag. 423. Conan Duke of Britanie poysened by VVilliam Con queror Belfor l. 3 cap. 12. An. 1065. ex chronic dionis The daughters of spaine are of the blood royal of Ingland The houses of Aloys VVhy Stephen vvas admitted king of Girard l. 6 Belfor l. 3 The issue of king Stephen K. Henry the 2. Belfor l. 3 cap. 50. An. 1151. Gerard. l. 8. pag. 549 K. Henry the 2. his issue Stovv in vita Henci King RIchard Duke Geffrey Paradyn apud Belforest Belfor l. 3 cap. 71. An. 1203. Belfor l. 4 cap. 4. K. Iohn and his issue Miseries that fell vppō king Iohn Polid. Hol lings Stovv in vitae Iohannis The issue of king Henry the 2. hys daughters Belfor l. 3 cap. 49. An. 1152. The issue of Lady Eleanor Queene of spaine Polidor l. 15. in vit Iohan Stephen Garib li. 22. cap. 31 Queene Berenguela Garibay li. 12. c. 52 Pretences of the Infanta of spayne to Inglish French states K. Henry the 3 and his issue The meeting of three houses Prince Edvvard Duke Edmond Lad. Beatrix daughter of king Henry 3. The pede gree of the dukes of Britanie The great contention betvveene the houses of Mō ford and Bloys in Britanie Burgundy and Orleance The controuersie betvveene the house of monford and Bloys A Questiō about successiō betven the vncle and the neece The house of Blois ouer come The suecession of the Monfords in Britanie Francis last Duke of Britany Hovv the dukdome of Britanie vvas vnited to france 3. The issue male of king Hēry the 〈◊〉 The Bishop of Rosle in his booke of the Q. of Scotts title George Lilly in fine epitomes chron Anglic. That Edvvard vvas the elder Matheus vvest in vit Henrici 3. bollings Ibidem pag. 654. 2. 3. Holling head in vit Henrici 3. pag. 740. 777. 4. Edmonds line neuer pretended to the crovvne 5. Note this consequent 6. The elder ship of Edmond a fiction Polyd in fine vitae Hent 3. The issue of king Edvvard the first The issue of Edmond Crock-back Collateral lynes of Lācastez Fyue sonnes of K. Edvvard 3. The redd rose and the vvhite issue of the black prince The issue of leonel the 2. sonne The issue of Edmond the 4 sonne The issue of Thomas the 5. sonne The issue of the 3. sonne duke of Lancan The issue by Lady Blanch. L. Phillip marryed into Portugāl and her issue Lady Elizabeth second daughter The issue of King Henry the 4. The issue of Iohn of Gant by his 2. vvife The controuersie in Spaine betvveene King Peter the cruel and his bastard brother Garibay l. 15 c. 26. Of Lady Catherin Svvinford hollings head in vita Richardi 2. pag. 1088. The duke of Lancasters ba stards made legitimate Hollingh in vita Rich. 2. pag. 1090. The issue of Catherin Svvinfords chil dren K. Hēry 7. The dukes of Somerset Polidor hist. Ang. lib. 23. Hollings in vita Edvvadi 4. pa. 1314 1340. VVhat heyres of Lancaster novv romaine in The issue of the house of York Richard Earle of Cambrige executed Richard duke of York slayne Edvvard duke of York and King his issue The lyne of the Pooles The lyne of the hastings The Baringtons King Richard 3. Issue of king Henry the 7. Issue of the lady Mary of Scotland Issue of mary 2. sister to K. Henry Lady Francis Stovv An. 7. Edvvard 6. Of Lady Elen or of Suffolk Varietie of authores opinions about this controuersie Polydor in fine vit Henr. 3. initio vit Henr. 4. in vit Rich. An. 1386. The allegations of the house of yorke The storie of the controuersie betvveene Lancaster York Polydor. in vita Richard 2. lib. 20. King Richards de position Cheefe points of the controuersie betvveene Lancaster and York Three pointes about king Richards depositiō That a trevv K. maye be deposed 〈◊〉 Reason 2. Authority 3. Examples VVhether the causes vvere sufficient of King Rich. deposition The house of York chiefe doer in deposing King Richard Polyd. lib. 20. histor Angl. Addit ad Polycromicon Testimony of stories The euil gouermēt of king Richard Stovv in vit Rich. 2. pag. 502 regni 11. Agreat insolēcy The euel parlamēt Stovv an 21. regni Richard The duke of Laneaster called by common request Frosard VValsingham VVhether the manner of deposing King Richard vvere good 1. Roboam deposed by his subiects of ten tribes 2. Reg. 11 12. 2. Paralip cap. 10. Ioram his mother Iesabel deposed by force 4. Reg. 9. 5. Athalia depriued by force 4. Reg. 11. VVhether Lancaster or Yorke should haue entred after king Richard Polidor L. 20. in vit Richard Stovv 〈◊〉 vita Richard 2. VVhether the earle of march or duke of Lancaster should haue luc ceded