to Lambeth It is treason by statute fot any subject in this Land to proceed Doctor of the Canon law and dare you professe your Church government to bee ruled by that law As though one statute might not referre all matters of the Canon law unto the temporall and common law of this Realme and is this all you can say T. C. 2 Yes saith he the government of Christ would bring in the judiciall law of Moses As much as is morall of that law or of the equity of it would be brought in And doe you again say it But you sodden headed Asse you the most part of that law is abrogated Some part thereof is in force among us as the punishment of a Murtherer by death and presumptuous obstinate Theft by death c. 3. His Majesties prerogative in Ecclesiasticall causes should not be a whit diminished but rather greatly strengthened by Christs government And no law should be altered but such as were contrary to the Law of God and against the profit of the Common wealth and therefore there can be no danger in altering these 4 The Ministers maintenance by Tythe no Puritane denyeth to be vnlawfull For Martin good Mr. Parson you must understand doth account no Brownist to be a Puritane nor yet a sottish Cooperist 5. The inconvenience which you shew of the government which is that men would not be ruled by it is answered afore And I pray you why should not they be better obedient unto Gods Law if the same also were established by the law of the Land then to the Popes Law and his Canons You thinke that all men are like your selves that is like Bishops such as cannot choose but break the Lawes and good orders of God and his Majesty 7 The lawes of England have beene made when there was never a Bishop in the Parliament as in the first yeare of Qeen Eliz. And this reason as all thu rest may serve to maintaine Popery as well as the hierarchy of Bishops 8 The government of the Church of Christ is no popular government but it is Monarchicall in regard of our head Christ Aristocraticall in the Eldership and Democraticall in the people Such is the civill government of our Kingdome Monarchicall in his Majesties person Aristocraticall in the higher house of Parliament or rather at the Counsell Table Democraticall in the body of the Commons of the Lower house of Parliament Therefore profane T. C. this government seeketh no popularity to be brought into the Church much lesse intendeth the alteration of the Civill state that is but your slander of vvhich you make an occupation And I will surely pay you for it I must be briefe now but more worke for Cooper shall examine your standers They are nothing else but proofes that as by your owne Confessions you are Bishops of the Divell so you are enemies unto the state For by these slanders you goe about to blind our State that they may never see a perfect Regiment of the Church in our dayes I say that by your owne Confession you are Bishops of the Divell I will prove it thus You confesse that your Lordly government were not lawfull and tolerable in this Common vvealth if his Majesty and the state of the Land did disclaime the same Tell me doe you not confesse this deny it if you dare For will you say that you ought lawfully to be here in our Common wealth whither his Majesty and the Counsell will or no Is this the thankes that his Majesty shall have for tolerating you in his Kingdome all this while that now you will say that you and your places stand not in this Kingdome by his courtesie but you have as good right vnto your places as he hath vnto his Kingdome And by this meanes your Offices stand not by his good liking and the good liking of the state as doe the Offices of our Lord high Chancellor high Treasurer and high Steward of England But your Offices ought to stand and to bee in force in spight of his Majesty the Parliament Counsell and every man else unlesse they would doe you injury So that I know J you dare not deny but that your Offices were unlawfull in our Common-wealth if his Majesty the Parliament and the Counsell would have them abolished If you grant this then you doe not hold your Offices as from God but as from man His Majesty hee holdeth his Office and his Kingdome as from GOD and is beholding for the same unto no Prince not State under Heaven Your case is otherwise for you hold your Offices as from his Majesty and not from God For otherwise you needed not to bee any more beholding unto his Majesty for the same in regard of right then hee is bound to bee beholding unto other states in regard of his right and so you in regard of your Lordly superiority are not the Bishops of God but as Ierom saith the Bishops of man And this the most of you confesse to be true and you see how dangerous it would be for you to affirme the contrary namely that you hold your Offices as from God Well Sir if you say that you are the Bishops of man Then tell mee whether you like of Deane Iohn his Booke O yes saith T. C. For his grace did peruse that book we know the sufficiency of it to bee such as the Puritans are not able to answer it Well then whatsoever is in this booke is anthenticall It is so saith T. C. otherwise his grace would not have allowed it What say you then to the 140 pag. of that booke where he saith answering the â—…rertise of the Bishop of God the Bi. of Man and the Bishop of the Divell that there is no Bishop of man at all but every Bishop must bee either the Bishop of GOD or the Bishop of the Divell He also affirmeth none to be the Bishop of God but he which hath warâ—…ant both inclusively and also expresly in Gods Word Now you Bishops of the Divell what say you now are you spighted of the Puritans because you like good subjects defend the Lawes of his Majesty or else because like incarnate Divels you are Bishops of the Divels as you your selves confesse Here againe let the Magistrate once more consider what pestilent and dangerous Beasts these wretches are unto the civill state For either by their owne confession they are the Bishops of the Divell and so by that meanes will bee the undoing of the state if they bee continued therein or else their places ought to be in this Commonwealth whether his Majesty and our state will or noâ—… because they are not as they say the Bishops of man that is they have not their superiority and their Lordly callings over their brethren by humane constitution as my Lord Chancellor Treasurer and other honourable personages have but by divine ordinance Yea and their callings they hold as you have heard not onely to be inclusively but also
good Balaams not to follow the wages of unrighteousnesse The counsell is good For Iudas though one of the first publishers of the Gospell so were not our Bishops in our time yet hung himselfe The false Apostles had their reward I doubt not And Balaam as soon as ever the Israelites tooke him was justly executed for his wickednesse The forced blessing wherewith hee blessed them saved him not Reverend T. C. page 10 11 12 13. May conjecturall speeches flye abroad of Bishops as that they are covetous give not to the poore hinder reformation Simoniacks c. but the chiefe Governours ought to take heed that they give no credit to any such things I trust never any of them committed Idolatry as Aaron did Reverend Martin Yea I beseech you that are in authority in any case not to beleeve any truth against our Bishops For these Puritans although the Bishops grant themselves to bee as evill as Balaam could never yet prove the good fathers to have committed Idolatry as Aaron did And as long as they be no worse then Balaam was there is no reason why they should be disliked You know this is a troublesome world men cannot come unto any meere living without friendss And it is no reason why a man should trouble his friend and give him nothing a hundred pounds and a gelding is yet better then nothing To bowle but seven dayes in a weeke is a very tolerable recreation You must know that Iohn of London hath sometimes preached as this profane T. C. hath given out to his no small commendations thâ—…ise in a yeare at Paules-crosse A sore labour it is reason that he should bestow the rest of the yeare in maintaining his health by recreation and providing for his family give him leave but to keepe out the government of the Church to sweare like a swag to persecute and to take some small ten in the hundred and truely he will be loath ever to commit idolatry as Aharon did I hope though Iudas sold his Master yet that it cannot bee proved since his calling that ever he committed Idolatry Reverend T. C. page 16 17. Though Bishops should offend as Noah did in drunkennes yet good children should cover their fathers falts For naturall children though they suffer injuries at their fathers hands yet they take their griefes very mildly Reverend Martin Bishop West phaling But what then Parson Gravat parson of sir Iohn Pulchres in London one of dumb Iohns bousing Mates will be drunke but once a weeke But what then good Children should take linkes in a cold morning light them at his nose to see if by that meanes some part of the fire that hath so flashed his sweete face might be taken away this were their duty saith T. C. and not to cry redde nose redde nose But T. C. what if a man should find him lying in the kenill whether should hee take him up all to be mired like a Swine in the sight of the people and carry him home on his backe or fling a coverled on him and let him there take his rest untill his legges would be advised by him to carry him home But me thinkes brother T. C. you defend the Bishops but evill favouredly in these points For you doe as though a Thiefe should say to a true man I must needes have thy purse thou must beare with mee it is my nature J must needes play the Thiefe But yet thou dealest uncharitably with me if thou blasest it abroad for though I make an occupation of Theft yeâ—… charity would cover it So say you though our Bishops make a Trade of persecuting and depriving Gods Ministers though they make a Trade of continuing in Antichristian callings yet charity would have their faltes covered and have them mildly dealt with As though T. C. there were no difference betwixt those that fall by infirmity into some one sinne not making it their Trade and not defending the same to be lawfull and our Bishops which continue in an Antichristian calling and occupation and defend they may doe so But will they leave thinke you if they be mildly and gently dealt with Then good Iohn of Canterbury J pray thee leave thy persecuting good Iohn of Canterbury leave thy Popedome good Father Iohn of London be no more a Bishop of the Divell be no more a Traytor to God and his Word And good sweet Boyes all of you become honest men maime deforme the Church no longer sweet fathers now make not a Trade of persecuting gentle fathers keep the people in ignorance no longer good fathers now maintaine the dumbe Ministery no longer Be the destruction of the Church no longer good sweete Babes now leave your Nonresidency and your other sinnes sweete Popes now and suffer the truth to have free passage Lo T. C. now I have mildly dealt with the good Fathers I will now expect a while to see whether they will amend by faire meanes if not let them not say but they have bin warned Reverend T. C. from the 20 to the 30. Though the Bishops be falty yet they are not to be excused that find fault with them for sinister ends And the Prince and Magistrates is to take heed that by their suggestions they be not brought to put downe L. Bishops to take away their livings and put them to their pensions For the putting of them to their pensions would discourage young students from the study of Divinity Reverend Martin I thought you were afraid to lose your livings by the Courâ—…er Martins meanes But brethren feare it not I would not haue any true Minister in the Land want a sufficient living But good soules I commend you yet that are not so bâ—…shfull but you will shew your griefes Is it the treading under foote of the glory of God that you feare good men No no say they we could reasonably well beare that losse But we dye if you diminish the allowance of our Kitchin Let us be assured of that and our Lordly callings and we doe not greatly care how other matters goe I will when more worke is published helpe those good young students unto a meanes to live though they have none of your Bishopdomes if they will be ruled by me Reverend T. C. page 5. 36. They have beene within these few weekes 3 or 4 pamphlets bublished in Print against Bishops The Author of them calleth himselfe Martin c. R. Martin But good Tom Tubtrimmer if there have been 3 or 4 published why doth Bishop Cooper name one onely why doth he not confute all why doth he invent objections of his owne seeing he had 3. bookes more to confute or 2 at least then he hath touched nay why doth he confute one of them throughly seeing therein his Bishopdome was reasonably caperclawed I have onely published a Pistle and a Pitomy wherein also I graâ—…t that I did reasonably Pistle them Therefore T. C. you begin with a lye in that you say that I have
Hay any worke for Cooper OR A BRIEFE PISTLE DIRECTED BY WAY OF an Hublication to the Reverend Byshops counselling them if they will needes bee Barrelled up for feare of smelling in the nostrills of his Majesty and the state that they would use the advise of Reverend Martin for the providing of their Cooper because the Reverend T. C. by which mysticall Letters is understood either the bounsing Parson of Eastmeane or Tom Coakes his Chaplaine to be an unskilfull and a Beceitfull Tub-trimmer WHEREIN WORTHY MARTIN QVITS Himselfe like a Man I warrant you in the modest defence of his selfe and his learned Pistles and maketh the Coopers hoopes to flye off and the Bishops Tubs to leake out of all cry Penned and Compiled by MARTIN the METROPOLITAN Printed in Europe not farre from some of the Bounsing Priests A man of worship to the men of worship that is Martiâ—… Mar-prelate gentleman Primate and Metropolitane of all the Maâ—…tins wheresoever To the Iohn of all the Sir Iohns and to the rest of the terrible Priests saith have among you once againe my clergie masters For O Brethren there is such a deale of love grown of late I perceive betweene you and me thaâ—… although I would be negligent in sending my Pistles unto you yet I see you cannot forget me I thought you to be very kind when you sent your Pursivaunts about the Country to seeke for me But now that you your selves have taken the paines to write this is out of all cry Why it passes to thinke what loving and carefull Brethren I have who although I cannot be gotten to tell them where I am because I love not the ayre of the Clinke or Gatehouse in this cold time of Winter and by reason of my businesse in Pistle-making will not withstanding make it known vnto the world that they have a moneths mind towards me now truly brethren I find you kind why ye doe not know what a pleasure you have done me My worships bookes were vnknowne to many before you allowed T. C. to admonish the people of England to take heed that if they loved you they would make much of their Prelates and the chiefe of the Clergie Now many seeke after my bookes more then ever they did Againe some knew not that our brother Iohn of Fulham was so good vnto the porter of his gate as to make the poore blind honest soule to be a dum Minister Many did not know either that Amen is as much as by my faith and so that our Saviour Christ ever sware by his faith or that bowling and eating of the Sabboth are of the same nature that Bishops may as lawfully make blind guydes as David might cate of the Shew bread or that father Thomas Tub-trimmer of Winchester good old student is a master of Arâ—…s of 45. yeares standing Many I say were ignorant of these things and many other pretty toyes vntill you wrote this pretty booke besides whatsoever you overpasse in my writings and did not gainsay that I hope will be iudged to be true and so Iohn a Bridges his treason out of the 448 page of his booke you grant to be true Your selves you deny not to be petty Popes the Bishop of fir Davids in Wales you deny not to have two wives with an hundred other things which you doe not gain say so that the reader may judge that I am true of my word and vse not to lye like Bishops and thiâ—… hath greatly commended my worships good dealing But in your confutation of my book you have shewed reverend Martin to be truepeny indeed for you have confirmed rather then confuted him So that brethren the pleasure which you have done vnto me is out of all scotche and notche And should not I againe be as ready to pleasure you Nay then I should be as vngratefull towards my good brethren as Iohn of Caâ—…t is to Thomas Cartwright The which Iohn although hee hath beene greatly favoured by the said Thomas in that Thomas hath now these many yeares let him alone and said nothing vnto him for not answering his bookes yet is not ashamed to make a secret comparison betweene himselfe and Thomas Cartwright As who say Iohn of Lambehith were as learned as Thomas Cartwright What say you old deane Iohn a Bridges have not you shewed your selfe thankefull vnto his Majestie in overthrowing his supremacie in the 448 page of your book I will lay on load on your skincoat for this geare anon And I will have my penyworths of all of your brethren ere I have done with you for thiâ—… paines which your T. C. hath taken with me This is the Puritans craft in procuring me to be confuted I know I le be even with them to a crafty whoresons brethren Bishop did you thinke because the puritans T. C. did set Iohn of Cant. at a non-plus and gave him the overthrow that thereforâ—… your T. C. alias Thomas Cooper Bishop of Winchester or Thomas Cooke his Chaplaine could set me at a nonplus simple fellowes me thinkes he should not J gesse your T C. to bâ—…Thomas Cooper but I doâ—… not peremptorily affirme it because the modest old student of 52 yeares standing setâ—…eth Winchester after Lincolne and Rochester in the contâ—…ts of his booke which blasphemy would not have beene tollerâ—…ted by them that saw and allowed the booke vnlesse Mistresse Coopers husband had beene the author of it Secondly hecuase this T. C the author of this booke is a Bishop and therefore Thomas Cooper he is a Bishop because hee reckonâ—…th himselfe charged â—…mongst others with those crimes whereof none are accused but Bishops alone pag. 101. lin. 26. Ha olde Martin yet I see â—…hou hast it in thee thou wilt enter into the bowels of the cause in hand I perceive Nay if you will commend me I will give you more reasons yet Thâ—… stile and the phraâ—…e is very like her husbands that was sometimes wont to write vnto Doctor Day of Welles You see I can doe it indeed Againe none would be so groshead as to gather because my reverence telleth Deane Iohn that hee shall have twenty fists about his â—…ares more then his owne whereby J meant indeed that many would write against him by reason of his bomination learning which otherwise never meant to take pen in hand that J threatned him with blowes and to deale by stafford law whereas that was farre from my meaning could by no meanes be gathered out of my words but onely by him that prononâ—…ced Enlogeni for Eâ—…login in thâ—… pulpit and by him whom a Papist made to beleeve that the Greek word Eulogein that is to give thankes signifieâ—…h to make a crosse in the forhead py hy hy hy I cannot but laugh py hy hy hy I cannot but laugh to thinke that an old soaking student in this learned agâ—… is not ashamed to be so impudâ—… as to preâ—…me to deale with a Papist when he hath no grue in his pocket But
I promise you Sir it is no shame to be a L. Bishop if a man could though he were as vnlearned as Iohn of Glocester or William of Lâ—…echfeld And I tell you true our brother Westchester had as live play twenty nobles in a night at Priemeero on the cards as trouble himselfe with any Pulpit labour and yet hee thinks himselfe to be a sufficient Bishop What a Bishop such a cardplaier A Bishop play 20 nobles in a night Why a round threpence serveth the turne to make good sport 3 or foure nights amongst honest neighbours and take heed of it brother Westchester it is an vnlawfull game if you will believe me For in Winter it is no matter to take a little sport for an odde cast braces of twenty nobles when the weather is foule that men cannot goe abroad to bowles or to shoote What would you havâ—… men take no recreation Yea but it is an old said sâ—…w enough is as good as a feast and recreations must not be made a trade and an occupation ka master Martin Mar-prelate I tell you true brother minâ—… though J have as good a gift in pistle making as you have at Priemeâ—…ro and fâ—…re more delight then you can have at your cardâ—… for the love I beare to my brethren yet I dare not vse this sport and cards I tell you though they be without hornes yet they are parlous beasts be they lawfull or vnlawfull take â—…eed of them for all that For you cannot vse them but you must needs say your brother T. C. his â—…men that is swearâ—… by your faith many a time in the night well I will never stand â—…rgling the matter any more with you if you will leave your card-playing so it is if you will not trust to it it will bee the woâ—…se for you I must goe simply and plainely to worke with my brethren that have published T. C. Whosoever have published that booke they have so hooped the Bishops tubs that they have made them to sâ—…ell farre more odious then ever they did even in the nostrels of all men The booke is of 252 pages the drift thereof is to 〈◊〉 certaine printed and published libels you bestow not full 50 pages in the answer of any thing that ever was published in print the rest are bestowed to maintain the belly and to câ—…ute what thinke you Even the 〈◊〉 inventions of your owâ—… braines for the most part As that it is not lawfull for his Maiestie to allot any lands vnto the maintenance of the Minister or the Minister to live upon lands for this purpose allotâ—…ed unto him but is to content himselfe with a small pension and so small as he have nothing to leave for his wife and children after him for whoâ—… hee is not to be carâ—…full but to rest on Gods providence and is to require no more but foode and raiment that in poverty he might bâ—… answerable vnto our Saviour Christ and his Apostles in the confutation of these points and the Scriptures corruptly applied to prove them there is bestowed above 100 pages of this Booke that is from the 149 vnto the end Well T. C. whosoever thou art and whatsoever Martin is neither thou nor any man or woman in England shall know while you live suspect and trouble as â—…any as you will and therefore save youâ—… mony in seeking for him for it may be he is nearer you then you are ware of But whosoever thou aâ—… I say thou shewest thy selfe to be a most notorious wicked sâ—…anderer in faâ—…hering thesâ—… things vpoâ—… those whom they call Puritans which â—…ever any enioying common sense would affirme And bring me him or set downe his name and his reasons that holdeth any of the former points confuted in thy booke and I will prove him to be vtterly bereaved of his wits and his confuter to be either starke mad or a starke enemy to all religion yea to his Majestie and the state of this Kingdome No no T. C. Puritans hold no such points it were well for Bishops that their adversaries were thus sottiâ—… They might then justly incense his Maiestie and the state against them if they were of this mind These objections in the confutation whereof thou hast bestowed so much time are so farre from having any Puritan to be their author as whosoever readeth the booke were he as blockheaded as Thomas of Winchester himselfe he may easily know them to be obiections onely invented by the author of the booke himselfe For although he be an impudent wretch yet dareth hee not set them downe as writings of any other for then he would have described the author and the booke by some audient The Puritans indeed hold it vnlawfull for a Minister to have such temporall revenewes as whereby 10 ministers might be well maintained vnlesse the said revenews come vnto him by inheritance They hold it also vnlawfull for any state to bestowe the livings of many ministers vpon one alone especially when there is such want of Ministers livings They hold it vnlawfull for any minister to be Lord over his brethren and they hold it vnlawfull for any state to tolerate such vnder their government because it is vnlawfull for states to tolerate men in those places whereinto the word hath forbidden them to enter They affirme that our Saviour Christ hath forbidden all ministers to be Lords Luke 22. 25. And the Apostle Peter sheweth them to be none of Gods Ministers which are Lords over Gods heritage as you Bishops are and would be accounted These things T. C. you should have confuted and not troubled your selfe to execute the fruites of your owne braines as an enemy to the state And in these points I doe challenge you T. C. and you Deane Iohn and you Iohn Whitgift and you Doctor Coosins and you Doctor Capcase Copcoat I thinke your name be and as many else as have or dare write in the defence of the established church government if you cannot confute my former assertions you doe but in vaine think to maintain your selves by slanders in fathering vpon the Puritans the offsprings of your own blockheads And assure your selves I will so be scoop if you caÌ„not defend your selves in these points as all the world shall cry shame vpon you you thinke prettely to escape the point of your Antichristian callings by giving out that Puritans hold it vnlawfull for his Maiestie to leave any lands for the vse of the ministers maintenance J cannot but commend you for I promise you you can shift of an haynous accusation very prettily A true man bringeth vnanswerable witnesses against a robber by the high way side and desireth the Judge that the law may proceed against him Oh no my Lord saith the thiefe in any case let not me be dealt with For these mine accusers have given out that you are a drunkard or they have committed Treason against the state therefore I pray you beleeve my slander against them that they may be
executed so when I come to my tryall I shall be sure to have no accusers A very pretty way to escape if a man could tell how to bring the matter about Now brethren Bishops your manner of dealing is even the very same The puritans say truly that all Lord Bishops are petty Antichrists and therefore that the Magistrates ought to thrust you out of the common-wealth Now of all loves say the Bishops let not our places bee called in question but rather credit our slanders against the Puritans whereby if men would beleeve vs when wee lye we would beare the world in hand that these our accusers are Malecontents and sottish men holding it unlawfull for the Magistrate to allot any lands for the Ministers portion and unlawfull for the Minister to provide for his family And therefore you must not give eare to the accusations of any such men against us And so wee shall be sure to be acquitted But brethren doe you thinke to be thus cleared Why the Puritans hold no such points as you lay to their charge Though they did as th◅y do not yet that were no sufficient reasō why you being petty Popes should be maintained in a Christian common-wealth A◅swer the reasons that I brought against you otherwise Come off you Bishops leave your thousands and content your selves with your hundreds saith Iohn of London So that you doe plainely see that your Cooper T. C. is but a deceitfull workeman and if you commit the hooping of your Bishopricks vnto him they will so le◅ke in a short space as they shall be able to keep never a Lord Bishop in them And this may serve for an answere vnto the latter part of your booke by way of an Interim vntill more worke for Cooper bee published Hay any worke for Cooper ANd now reverend T. G. I am come to your Epistle to the reader but first you and I must goe out alone into the plaine fields and the◅e wee will try it out even by plaine Syllogismes and that I know Bishops cannot abide to heare of The reverend T. G. to the Reader Page 1. I draw great danger upon my selfe in defending our Bishops and others the chiefe of the clergie of the church of England Their adversaries are very eger the Saints in heaven have felt of their tongues for when they speake of Paul Peter Mary c. whom others iustly call saints they in derision call them sir Peter sir Paul sir Mary Reverend Martin Alas poore reverend T. G. Be not afraid Heere be none but friends man I hope thou art a good fellow and a true subiect yea but I defend the Bishops of the church of England saith he then indeed I marvell not though thy conscience accuse thee and thou art sure to be as well-favouredly thwacked for thy labour as ever thou wast in thy life Thy conscience J say must needs make thee feare in defending them For they are petty Popes and petty Antichrists as I have proved because they are Pastor of pastors c. thou hast not answered my reasons and therefore swadled thou shalt bee for thy paines and yet if thou wilt yeeld I will spare thee Thou canst not be a good and sound subiect and defend the hierarchy of Lord Bishops to bee lawfull as I will shew anone Concerning Sir Paul I have him not all in my writings And therefore the reader must know that there is a Canterbury tricke once to patch up an accusation with a lye or two Sir Peter was the oversight of the Printer who omitted this Marginall note viz. He was not Saint Peter which had a lawfull superiour authority over the vniversall body of the Church And therefore the Priest wherof Deane Iohu speaketh was sir Peter And good reverend T. C. I pray thee tell me what kin was Saint Mary Oueries to Mary the Virgin In my booke learning the one was some Popish Trull and the other the blessed Virgin But will you have all those who are Saints indeed called Saints Why then why doe you not call saint Abraham saint Sara saint Ieremie If Iohn of Canterbury should marry tell me good T. C. dost thou not thinke that he would not make choice of a godly woman I hope a would and T. C. though you are learned yet you goe beyond your books if you said the contrary being a godly woman then shee were a Saint and so by your rule her name being Mary you would have her called Saint Mary Canterbury But I promise thee did his grace what he could I would call her sir Mary Canterbury as long as he professed himselfe to be a Priest and this I might doe lawfully For he being sir Iohn why should not his wife be sir Mary and why not sir Mary Overies as well as sir Mary Canterbury I hope Iohn of Canterbury whom I know though I know no great good in him to be as honest a man as M. Overies was whom I did not know Neither is there any reason why you T. C. should hold M. Overies and his Mary because they are within the Diocesse of Winchester to bee more honest then M. Canterbury and his wife Nay there is more reasons why M. Canterburie and his wife dwelling at Lambehith should be thought the honester of the two then Overies and his wife because they dwell O the bankes side But good Tom tubtrimmer tell me what you meane by the chiefe of the Clergie in the Church of England Iohn Canterburie I am sure Why good T. C. this speech is either blasphemous or traitorous or by your owne confession an evident proofe that Iohn of Canterburie is Lord over his brethren He that is chiefe of the clergie is chiefe of Gods heritage and that is Iesus Christ onely and so to make the Pope of Canterbury chiefe of Gods heritage in this sense is blasphemous if you meane by clergie as Deane Iohn doth page 443 of his booke both the people and Ministers of the Church of England in this sense his Majestie is chiefe of the clergie in the Church of England and so your speech is trait◅rous Lastly if by clergie you mean the ministers of the Church of England none in this sense can be chiefe of the Clergie but a petty Pope For our Saviour Christ flatly forbiddeth any to be chiefe of the clergie in this sense Luke 22. 26. And none ever claimed this vnto himselfe but a petty Pope Therefore T. C. you are either by your own speech a blasphemer or a traitor or else Iohn of Cant. is a petty Pope Here is good spooneme◅t for a Cooper Take heed of writing against Martin if you love your ease Reverend T. C. page 2. Epistle But I feare them not while I goe about to maintaine the dignity of Priests Reverend Martin Well fare a good heart yet stand to thy tackling and get the high commission to send abroad the Pursivants and I warrant thee thou wile doe something Alas good Priests that their dignity is like to
expresly in the word What shift will they use to avoid this point Are they the Bishops of men that is hold they their jurisdiction as from men No saith Deane Bridges no saith Iohn of Canterbury and the rest of them for all of them allow this Booke of Iohn Bridges for then wee are the Bishops of the Divell wee cannot avoid it Are â—…hey then the Bishops of God that is have they such a calling as the Apostles Evangelists c. had that is such a calling as ought lawfully to be in a christian Commonwealth unlesse the Magistrate would injury the Church yea maime deforme and make a Monster of the Church whither the Magistrate will or no We have say they For our calling are not only inclusively but also expressely in the word So that by Deane Bridges his confession and the approbation of Iohn Canterbury either our Bishops are Bishops of the Divell or their callings cannot bee defended lawfull without flat and plaine Treason in overthrowing his Majesties supremacy And so Deane Bridges hath written and Iohn Whitgift hath approved and allowed flat Treason to be published Is Martin to be blamed for finding out and discovering Traytors Is hee to be blamed for crying out against the Bishops of the Divel If he be then indeed have J offended in-writing against Bishops If not whether is the better Subject Martin or our Bishops whether I be favoured or no J will not cease in the love I owe to his Majesty to write against Traytors to write against the Divels Bishops Our Bishops are such by their owne confession For they protest themselves to be the Bishops of the Divel If they should hold the prâ—…heminency to be from man If they hold it otherwise then from man they are Traytors And untill this Beast Doctor Bridges wrote this Booke they never as yet durst presume to claime their Lordships any otherwise lawfull then from his Majesty yea and D. Bridges about the 60. page saith thosame But they care not what contrariety they have in their writings what Treason they hold as long as they are perswaded that no man shall be tolerated to write against them I have once already shewed Treason to be in this Booke of the Deane of Sarum page 448. I shew the like now to be page 340. Because Deane Bridges durst not answer mee They have turned unto me in his stead a Beast whom by the length of his Eares I gesse to bee his Brother that is an Asse of the same kind But I will bee answered of the Deane himselfe in this and the former point of Treason or else his Cloister shall smoake for it And thus profane T. C. you perceive what a good subject you are in defending the established government Thus also I have answered all your Bookes in the matters of the lawfulnesse of the government by Pastors Doctours Elders and Deacons and the unlawfulnesse of our bastardly Church government by Archbishops and Bishops where also the Reader may see that if ever there was a Church rightly governed that is a Church without maime or deformity the same was governed by Pastours Doctours Elders and Deacons Whau whau but where have I beene all this while Ten to one among some of these Puritans Why Martin Why Martin I say hast tow forgotten thy selfe Where hast ti beene why man cha bin a seeking for a Samons nest and cha vound a whole crue either of Ecclesiasticall Traitors or of the Bishops of the Divell of broken and maimed members of the Church never wink on me good fellow for I will speake the truth let the Puritans doe what they can I say then that they are broken members and I say Iohn of Canterbury if he be a member of the Church I say he is a broken member and that Thomas of Winchester is a Choleriâ—…ke member Yea and cha vound that profane T. C is afraid lest his Majesty should give Bishops livings away from om. And therefore shutteth his booke with this position viz. That it is not lawfull to bestow such livings upon Lay men as are appointed by Gods law upon Ministers But hereof more warke for Cooper shall learnedly dispute Reverend T. C. Admonition page 1 2 3. Wee use the Ministers most vilâ—…ly now a dayes God will punish us for it as hee did those which abused his Prophets Reverend Martin Looke to it T. C. then For out of thine own mouth shalt thou bâ—… judged thou unrighteous servant Our Bishops are they which abuse the Ministers Our Bishops were never good Ministers as yet and therefore they are not to be compared with the Prophets Reverend T. C. page 4. Some men will say that I doe great injury to the Prophets and Apostles in comparing our Bishops unto them But we may be happy if we may have tolerable Ministers in this peâ—…ilous age Reverend Martin I hope T. C. that thou dost not mean to serve the Church with worse then we have what worse then Iohn of Canterbury worse then Tom Tubtrimmer of Winchester worse then the Vickâ—…rs of Hell Sir Ieffâ—…ry Iones the parson of Micklain c. I pray thee rather then we should have a change from evill to worse let us have the evill still But I care not if I abide the venture of the change Therefore get Iohn with his Canterburinesse removed c. whom thou acknowledgest to be evill and J doe not doubt if worse come in their stead but the Divell will soone fetch them away and so wee shall bee quickly rid both of evill and worse But good T. C. is it possible to find worse then we have I do not marvell though thou callest me libeller when thou darest abuse the Prophets farre worse then in calling them libellers for I tell thee true thou couldst not have any way so stained their good names as thou hast done in comparing them to our Bishops Call me Libeller as often as thou wilt I doe not greatly care but and thou lovest me never liken me to our Bishops of the Divell For J cannot abide to be compared unto those for by thine owne comparison in the 9. page they are just Balaams up and downe Reverend T. C. page 8 9 10. Though our Bishops be as evill as Iudas the false Apostles and Balaam yet because they have sometimes brought unto â—…s Gods message wee must thinke no othetwise of them then of Gods Messengers For GOD will not suffer divellish and Antichristian persons to bee the chiefe restorers of his Gospell Reverend Martin First T. C. I have truly gathered thine argument though thou namest neither Iudas nor the false Apostles Prove it otherwise Then hast thou reverend Martin proved thy selfe a lyar Now secondly then seeing it is so I pray thee good honest T. C. desire our Judasses who was also one of the first Apostles not to sell their Master for money desire our false Apostles who preached no false doctrine for the most part not to insult over poore Paul and desire our
published either 3. or 4. bookes Reverend T. C. page 38. His grace never felt blow as yet c. What is he past feeling wilt thou tell me that T. C. he sleepeth belike in the top of the roust I would not be so well thwacked for the Popedome of Caâ—…ter as he hath borne poore man He was never able to make good syllogisme since I am sure He allowed D. Bridges his booke quoth T. C. I pray thee what got he by that but a Testimony against himselfe that either he hath allowed Treason or confessed himselfe to be the Bishop of the Divell T. C. page 38. He that readeth his grace his answer and M. Cartwrights reply shall see which is the better learned of the two So he shall indeed T. C. and he were very simple which could not discerne that And there is so much answered already as thou saist that his grace dare answer no more for shame And T. C. you your selves grant Thomas Cartwright to bee learned so did I neuer thinke Iohn Whitgift to be what comparison can you make betweene them But Thomas Cartwright shall I say that thou madest this booke against me because T. C. is set to it well take heed of it if J find it to be thy doing J will so besoop thee as thon never bangedst Iohn Whitgift better in thy life I see heere that they have quarrelled with thee Water Traverse Iohn Penri Thomas Sparke Giles Wiggington Master Davison c. Nay it is no matter you are een well served this will teach you I trow to become my Chaplaines For if you were my Chaplaines once I trow Iohn Whitgift nor any of his durst not once say blacke to your eyes And if I had thy learning Thomas Cartwright I would mâ—…ke them all to smoak But though I were as very aâ—… Aâ—…ehead as Iohn Catâ—…rcap is yet I could deale well enough with Clergie men yea with old Winkâ—…n de word D. Prime himselfe And I le bepistle you D. Prime when I am at more leâ—…sure though indeed J tell you true that as yet J doâ—… disdame to deale with a contemptible trencher Chaplaine such as you D. Banckcroft and Chaplain Dâ—…port are But I le be with you all three to bring one day you shall never scape my fingers if I take you but once in hand You see how I have dealt with Deane Iohn your entertainment shall be alike But Thomas Cartwright thou art T. C. so is Tom Cooper too The distinction then betweene you both shall be this he shall be profane T. C. because he calleth Christ Iesus by whom the government by Pastors Doctors Elders and Deacons was commanded to be he knowes not whom and thou shalt bee simple T. C. Concerning Mistresse Lawson profane T. C. is it not lawfull for her to goe to Lambeth by water to accompany a Preachers wife going also as commonly godly matrons in London doe with her man No saith T. C. I doe not like this in women Tush man Thomas Lawson is not Thomas Cooper hee hath no such cause to doubt of Dame Lawsons going without her husband as the Bishop of Winchester hath had of Dame Coopers gadding But more worke for Cooper will say more for Mistresse Lawson From whomsoever Charde had his protection his Face is glad of it for otherwise he knoweth not how to get a Printer for the established government because the books will not sell Touching the Premunire let the Libeller and his doe what he dare Why brethren what wisedome is this in you to dare your betters doe you not know that I can send you my mind by a Pistle and then prove you to bee petty Popes and Enemies to the State And how can you mend your selves It is certaine you are in a premunire If his Majesty will give me leave to have the Law J will be bound to bring 10 000 pounds into his Coffers upon that bargaine And therefore soolish men dare your betterâ—… no more And heare I pray thee marke how I have made the Bishops to pull in their Hornes For whereas in this place they had printed the word dare they bethought themselves that they had to deale with my worship which am favoured at the Court and being afraid of me they pasted the word can vpon the word dare and so where before they bad me and mine doe what we durst now they bid vs doe what we can hoping thereby to have a friend in a corner who would not suffer us to doe what we ought and durst and so our ability should not be according unto their demerit Marke now the Bishops of the Divell whither you be not afraid of mee I will see you jolled with the premunire one day The like thing you shall find in the 135 page For there having said that they will not deny the discipline to have beene in the Apostles time they have now pasted there upon that That is not yet proved So that although their Consciences do tell them that the discipline was then yet they will beare the world in hand that that is not yet proved Here you see that if this patch T. C. had not used two patches to cover his patchery the Bishops would have accounted him to be as very a patch as Deane Iohn A but these knave Puritans are more unmannerly before his grace then the Recusants are and therefore the Recusants have more favour I cannot blame them for wee ought to have no Popes The Papists like the Archiepiscâ—…pall Pall and therefore reverenceth a petty Pope thsrein And though the Recusant come not to hence the sermons yet he is an informer very often upon other mens information His grace denyeth that ever he heard of any such matter as that the Iesuit should say he wouid become a brave Cardinall if Popery should come againe I know T. C. that long since he is past shame and a notorious Lyer otherwise how durst he deny this seeing Cliffe an honest and a godly Cobler dwelling at Battle bridge did justifie this before his grace his teeth yea and will justifie the same againe if he be called So will Atkinson too Send for them if he dare Ministers of the Gospell ought to bee called Priests saith his grace what say you oy that Then good sir Iohn O Cant. when wilt thou say Masâ—…e at our house His grace is also perswaded that there ought to be a Lordly spueriority among Ministers So was Iudas perswaded to sell his Master if you would have these things proved profane T. C. referreth you to his grace his answer unto simple T. C. and to Doctor Bridges That is if you would learne any honesty you must goe to the stewes or if you would have a good favour you must goe to the sincke for it Why thou vnsavourly snuâ—…fe dost tow thinke that men know not D. Bridges and Iohn Whitgift Yea but his grace also firmely beleeveth that Christ in soule descended into Hell This is the
third point of his Catholike pe◅swasion but tell him from me that he shall never bee saved by this beliefe and my finger in his mouth Let him tell what our Saviour Christ should doe if hee did not harrow Hell Where thou sayest Mr. ◅oung had onely the dealing with Thakwel the Popish Printer without his graces privity thou lyest in thy throat M. Young himselfe brought him to his grace who ordered the matter as it is set downe in my Pistle But did not I say truly of thee that thou canst cog face and lye as fast as a dog can trot and that thou hast a right seasoned wainscoate face of ti nowne chwarnt tee ti vorehead zaze hard as horne Concerning Waldegrave it s no matter how you deale with him heez a foolish fellow to suffer you to spoyle his presse and letters an a had bin my worships Printer I de a kept him from your clouches And yet it is pitty to belye the Divell and therefore you shall not belye him and goe sco◅free As for the presse that Waldegrave sold hee did is by order viz. He sold it to an allowed Printer I. C. one his owne company with the knowledge of his Warden Henry Denham c. And call you this favour in releasing him after long imprisonment But I will give you a president of great favour indeed wherein you may see what an ungratefull fellow Waldegrave is to his grace who hath bin so good unto him frō time to time There being a controve◅e betweene another Printer and Waldegrave all matters of Printing being committed by the Lords of the Counsell to his grace Waldegrave made one of his Company his friend who could do much with his grace to deale for him who brake the matter to his worship being at Croydon in his Orchard so soone as the party named Waldegrave he sweetely answered him saying if i◅ had bin any of the company save him he would have granted the suite but in no case to Waldegrave Well Waldegrave obtained the K. H Lord Treasurers Letter in his behalfe to his grace who when he had read it said J will answer my Lord Treasurer with that Waldegrave intreated for his favourable Letter to the Wardens of his Company which in the end through D. Coosins hee obtained though late yet went home at night thinking to deliver it in the Morning but before he was ready the Wardens were with him and rested him with a Pursivant upon his graces Commandement Waldegrave telling them there was a letter from his grace which hee receiued late the last night at Croydon who answered they knew it well enough but this is his pleasure now so they carryed Waldegrave to prison and in this his Grace was so good unto him as to helpe him with an hundred marks over the shoulders If this be your favour God keepe mee from you ka M. Marprelate Bishops have justly received according to their deserts having found greater favour at my Worships hands then ever they deserved being notorious disobedient and godlesse persons unthrifty spenders and consumers of the fruits not of their owne labors as you say Waldegrave was but of the possessions of the Church persons that have violated their faith to God his Church his Majesty and this whole Kingdome and wittingly bring us all without the great mercy of God to our undoing so that ou◅ wives children servants have cause to curse all L. Bp. Lo T. C. you see that I have a good gift in imitation and me thinkes I have brought your words into a marvailous good sence where as before in the cause of Waldegrve they were illfavouredly wrested and as for his wife and children they have just cause to curse Iohn of London and Iohn of Canterbury for their tyrannizing over him by imprisoning and spoiling his goods and vexing his poore wife and children with continuall rifeling his house with their Pursivants who in November last violently rusht into his house breaking through the maine wall thereof after midnight taking away his goods for some of the Pursivants sold his bookes vp and downe the streets to Watchmen and others Ah you Antichristian Prelates when will you make an end of defending your tyranny by the bloud and rapine of her Majesties subjects You have bin the consumers of the fruits of Waldegraves labours for have you not sent him so often to prison that it seemed you made a common occupation thereof For assoone as any booke is printed in the defence of Christs holy Discipline or for the detecting of your Antichristian dealings but your ravening pursivants flye city and country to seeke for Waldegrave as though he were bound by statute unto you either to make known who printed seditious bookes against my L. Face or to goe to prison himselfe and threatned with the racke And are you not ashamed to say that he ever violated his Faith you know well enough that he is neither Archb. nor L. B. The case thus stood after he had remained a long time in Prison not that time when Hartwell his graces secretary wisht that his grace might never eat bit of bread after hee released him Nor at that time when you profane T. C. told him that all Puricans had trayterous hearts Nor at that time Waldegrave told her grace that hee was worse then Bo◅er in regard of the time Nor that time when hee was strangely released by one of the Lord of good Londons Swans Neither was it at that time when his grace good conscionable Noble man violated his promise in that he told the Wardens of the Stationers that if Waldegrave would come quietly to him and cease printing of seditious bookes he would pardon what was past and the Wardens promised his wife that if he were committed they would lye at his graces gate till he were released and for all this yet hee was committed to the white Lyon where he lay 6 weeks Nor it was not at that time when his grace allowed Watson the Pursivant to take of Waldegrave 13◅ 4 pen◅c f◅r carrying of him to the white Lyon But it was that time when his grace kept him 20 weekes together in the white Lyon for printing the complaint of the Comminalty the practise of Prelates a learned mans judgment c. Meanes being used for his liberty his friend who was bound for him told him his liberty was obtained in manner following You must be bound faith he in a 100 pounds to print no more bookes hereafter but such as shall be authorized by her Majesty or his grace or such as were before lawfully authorized whereunto he answered that it was not possible for him to containe himselfe within the compasse of that bond neither should his consent ever goe to the same the same will D Coosins witnesse that maidenly Doctor who sits cheeke by joll with you if he will speake a truth which words Waldegrave uttered to him going in the old Pallas at Westminster with his Keeper before hoe