a_o name_n which_o be_v above_o every_o name_n that_o it_o may_v have_v as_o much_o reverence_n give_v it_o as_o we_o give_v to_o great_a meg_n of_o westminster_n what_o will_v bishop_n andrews_n have_v say_v have_v he_o live_v to_o hear_v this_o very_o say_v he_o in_o his_o sermon_n upon_o the_o forego_n word_n of_o st._n paul_n god_n will_v not_o have_v we_o worship_v he_o like_o elephant_n as_o if_o we_o have_v no_o joint_n in_o our_o knee_n he_o will_v have_v more_o honour_n of_o man_n than_o of_o the_o pillar_n of_o the_o church_n he_o will_v have_v we_o to_o bow_v our_o knee_n and_o let_v we_o bow_v they_o in_o god_n name_n and_o to_o his_o name_n for_o this_o be_v another_o prerogative_n he_o be_v exalt_v to_o who_o person_n knee_n do_v bow_v but_o he_o to_o who_o name_n only_o much_o more_o but_o the_o cause_n be_v here_o otherwise_o for_o his_o person_n be_v take_v up_o out_o of_o our_o sight_n all_o we_o can_v do_v will_v not_o reach_v unto_o it_o but_o his_o name_n he_o have_v leave_v behind_o to_o we_o that_o we_o may_v show_v by_o our_o reverence_n and_o respect_n to_o it_o how_o much_o we_o esteem_v he_o how_o true_a the_o psalm_n shall_v be_v holy_a and_o reverend_a be_v his_o name_n but_o if_o we_o have_v much_o ado_n to_o get_v it_o bow_v at_o all_o much_o more_o shall_v we_o have_v to_o get_v it_o do_v to_o his_o name_n there_o be_v that_o do_v it_o not_o what_o speak_v i_o of_o not_o do_v it_o there_o be_v that_o not_o only_o forbear_v to_o do_v it_o themselves_o but_o put_v themselves_o to_o a_o evil_a occupation_n to_o find_v fault_n where_o none_o be_v and_o cast_v scruple_n into_o man_n mind_n by_o no_o mean_n to_o do_v it_o and_o again_o a_o little_a after_o but_o to_o keep_v we_o to_o the_o name_n this_o be_v sure_a the_o word_n themselves_o of_o st._n paul_n be_v so_o plain_a as_o they_o be_v able_a to_o convince_v any_o man_n conscience_n and_o there_o be_v no_o writer_n not_o of_o the_o ancient_a on_o this_o place_n that_o i_o can_v find_v save_o he_o that_o turn_v all_o into_o allegory_n but_o literal_o understand_v it_o and_o like_v well_o enough_o we_o shall_v actual_o perform_v it_o thus_o dr._n andrews_n a_o very_a learned_a bishop_n of_o his_o church_n as_o dr._n st._n himself_o call_v he_o p._n 101._o and_o can_v any_o legitimate_a son_n of_o that_o church_n hear_v he_o preach_v that_o no_o more_o reverence_n be_v due_a to_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n than_o to_o the_o toll_n of_o a_o bell_n and_o yet_o cry_v he_o up_o hereafter_o for_o a_o pillar_n of_o that_o church_n unless_o it_o be_v in_o the_o bishop_n sense_n abovementioned_a who_o practice_n he_o expose_v as_o ridiculous_a by_o so_o unhandsome_a a_o comparison_n i_o remember_v at_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o long_a parliament_n one_o of_o the_o first_o wound_v give_v to_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v from_o a_o book_n who_o title_n as_o i_o read_v it_o post_v up_o in_o westminster-hall_n be_v jesu-worship_n confute_v and_o whether_o the_o same_o may_v not_o have_v be_v put_v for_o a_o marginal_a note_n to_o this_o answer_n of_o the_o doctor_n i_o leave_v to_o judgement_n of_o the_o reader_n give_v i_o leave_v to_o speak_v a_o word_n to_o you_o son_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n what_o if_o the_o doctor_n shall_v come_v upon_o you_o for_o reverence_v the_o name_n of_o jesus_n with_o your_o hat_n or_o knee_n as_o he_o do_v upon_o we_o for_o honour_v in_o like_a manner_n his_o image_n viz._n p._n 102._o that_o the_o reverence_n you_o give_v to_o that_o holy_a name_n be_v either_o the_o same_o you_o give_v to_o god_n or_o distinct_a from_o it_o if_o it_o be_v the_o same_o than_o you_o give_v proper_a divine_a worship_n to_o the_o name_n and_o if_o it_o be_v distinct_a than_o the_o name_n be_v worship_v with_o divine_a worship_n for_o itself_o and_o it_o be_v in_o your_o choice_n what_o sort_n of_o idolatry_n you_o will_v commit_v who_o worship_n the_o name_n of_o jesus_n but_o neither_o way_n can_v you_o avoid_v it_o if_o you_o tell_v he_o that_o the_o reverence_n you_o give_v that_o h._n name_n be_v not_o the_o worship_n due_a to_o god_n but_o a_o relative_n and_o inferior_a respect_n for_o his_o sake_n he_o will_v tell_v you_o again_o as_o he_o do_v i_o in_o the_o case_n of_o image_n p._n 100_o that_o this_o be_v just_a as_o if_o a_o unchaste_a wife_n shall_v plead_v in_o her_o excuse_n to_o her_o husband_n that_o the_o person_n she_o be_v too_o kind_a with_o be_v extreme_o like_o he_o and_o a_o dear_a friend_n of_o he_o nay_o have_v his_o very_a name_n and_o that_o it_o be_v out_o of_o respect_n to_o he_o that_o she_o give_v he_o the_o honour_n of_o his_o bed_n i_o do_v not_o hear_v that_o he_o have_v press_v this_o argument_n upon_o you_o and_o if_o he_o do_v not_o i_o can_v but_o wonder_n his_o zeal_n for_o god_n honour_n suffer_v you_o so_o long_o to_o go_v on_o in_o your_o idolatrous_a practice_n and_o much_o more_o if_o he_o comply_v with_o you_o himself_o in_o show_v any_o reverence_n to_o that_o name_n for_o though_o like_o a_o wise_a christian_n there_o be_v degree_n among_o christian_n as_o well_o as_o heathen_n he_o differ_v extreme_o from_o the_o vulgar_a in_o his_o opinion_n of_o religion_n yet_o this_o be_v to_o concur_v with_o they_o in_o the_o external_a practice_n of_o their_o idolatry_n and_o so_o he_o fall_v under_o the_o same_o censure_n with_o his_o wise_a heathen_n p._n 73._o on_o the_o other_o side_n if_o he_o do_v it_o noâ—_n resurrect_a bishop_n andrews_n have_v tell_v he_o he_o have_v just_a reason_n to_o fear_v lest_o the_o knee_n that_o will_v not_o bow_v be_v strike_v with_o something_o which_o shall_v make_v it_o not_o able_a to_o bow_v and_o for_o the_o name_n that_o they_o that_o will_v do_v no_o honour_n to_o it_o when_o time_n of_o need_n come_v shall_v receive_v no_o honour_n by_o it_o but_o to_o conclude_v this_o point_n if_o it_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o son_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n that_o they_o intend_v to_o give_v no_o more_o reverence_n to_o the_o most_o holy_a name_n of_o jesus_n when_o they_o hear_v it_o read_v than_o to_o a_o bell_n when_o they_o hear_v it_o toll_v i_o confess_v i_o be_v mistake_v in_o allege_v this_o practice_n of_o they_o for_o a_o instance_n but_o if_o they_o acknowledge_v more_o be_v due_a to_o that_o sacred_a name_n than_o to_o a_o bell_n and_o yet_o not_o so_o much_o as_o be_v due_a to_o god_n himself_o i_o have_v the_o end_n for_o which_o i_o bring_v it_o which_o be_v to_o let_v they_o see_v what_o kind_n of_o worship_n it_o be_v we_o give_v to_o the_o image_n of_o christ_n such_o as_o be_v give_v by_o themselves_o to_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n for_o we_o make_v image_n no_o more_o the_o object_n of_o our_o worship_n when_o we_o kneel_v before_o they_o than_o they_o do_v that_o holy_a name_n when_o they_o bow_v at_o it_o §_o 5._o the_o five_o instance_n be_v of_o the_o reverence_n give_v to_o the_o sacramental_a sign_n in_o the_o supper_n by_o kneel_v before_o they_o which_o if_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n have_v any_o sense_n in_o they_o as_o he_o say_v of_o image_n p._n 102._o will_v think_v be_v do_v to_o they_o and_o what_o say_v my_o adversary_n to_o this_o marry_o that_o this_o of_o all_o thing_n shall_v not_o be_v object_v to_o they_o if_o you_o ask_v he_o why_o he_o tell_v you_o because_o they_o have_v declare_v in_o their_o â—ubrick_n after_o the_o communion_n that_o thereby_o no_o adoration_n be_v intend_v or_o ought_v to_o be_v do_v either_o unto_o the_o sacramental_a dread_a and_o wine_n there_o bodily_a receive_v or_o any_o corporal_a presence_n of_o christ_n natural_a flesh_n and_o blood_n for_o the_o sacramental_a bread_n and_o wine_n remain_v still_o in_o their_o very_a natural_a substance_n and_o therefore_o may_v not_o be_v adore_v for_o that_o be_v idolatry_n to_o be_v abhor_v of_o all_o faithful_a christian_n i_o confess_v i_o reflect_v up_o in_o this_o rubric_n when_o i_o put_v down_o kneel_v at_o the_o eucharist_n for_o a_o instance_n but_o i_o can_v not_o imagine_v the_o doctor_n will_v make_v it_o a_o matter_n of_o triumph_n over_o the_o church_n of_o england_n it_o be_v not_o yet_o more_o than_o a_o dozen_o year_n since_o this_o rubric_n be_v insert_v into_o the_o communion_n book_n and_o the_o occasion_n be_v well_o know_v to_o have_v be_v a_o design_n to_o gain_v scrupulous_a and_o dissent_v party_n to_o a_o conformity_n in_o so_o innocent_a a_o ceremony_n and_o because_o the_o church_n of_o england_n have_v be_v so_o kind_a to_o those_o who_o dissent_v from_o she_o as_o to_o declare_v no_o adoration_n be_v intend_v
it_o or_o imagine_v any_o virtue_n or_o divinity_n to_o be_v in_o it_o or_o to_o pray_v to_o the_o saint_n as_o to_o those_o who_o be_v to_o give_v we_o what_o we_o pray_v for_o themselves_o all_o which_o be_v forbid_v by_o the_o 2d_o nicen_n council_n and_o that_o of_o trent_n and_o for_o other_o practice_n which_o the_o dr._n occasional_o object_n they_o shall_v be_v discuss_v in_o the_o follow_a discourse_n this_o be_v so_o as_o i_o have_v show_v and_o the_o judgement_n of_o these_o divine_n differ_v only_o as_o more_o and_o less_o in_o the_o same_o kind_n from_o what_o mr._n thorndike_n and_o other_o learned_a protestant_n pretend_v when_o they_o reprove_v some_o practice_n as_o idolatrous_a or_o at_o least_o in_o danger_n to_o be_v such_o these_o last_o six_o author_n cite_v by_o the_o doctor_n aught_o to_o have_v be_v allege_v for_o the_o contrary_a position_n of_o what_o he_o affirm_v viz._n that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n neither_o in_o her_o doctrine_n nor_o practice_n conformable_a to_o her_o doctrine_n be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n for_o whilst_o they_o impeach_v only_o some_o practice_n which_o they_o judge_v different_a from_o the_o doctrine_n it_o be_v manifest_a they_o imply_v the_o doctrine_n itself_o and_o practice_n if_o conformable_a to_o it_o not_o to_o be_v idolatrous_a here_o then_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_n whether_o dr._n sy_n be_v as_o he_o say_v by_o command_n public_o engage_v in_o the_o defence_n of_o so_o excellent_a a_o cause_n as_o that_o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v not_o betray_v his_o trust_n and_o his_o church_n too_o if_o it_o be_v his_o in_o advance_v such_o a_o medium_fw-la to_o justify_v her_o separation_n as_o contradict_v the_o sense_n of_o that_o church_n if_o it_o be_v to_o be_v take_v from_o the_o sentiment_n of_o those_o who_o be_v esteem_v her_o true_a and_o genuine_a son_n and_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o some_o of_o they_o make_v it_o in_o plain_a term_n to_o be_v schismatical_a which_o yet_o will_v appear_v more_o clear_o if_o we_o consider_v how_o this_o charge_n of_o idolatry_n subvert_v the_o very_a foundation_n of_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n for_o it_o be_v a_o receive_a maxim_n and_o not_o denyable_a by_o any_o one_o of_o common_a sense_n that_o no_o man_n can_v give_v to_o another_o that_o which_o he_o have_v not_o himself_o it_o lie_v open_a to_o the_o conscience_n of_o every_o man_n that_o if_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v guilty_a of_o heresy_n much_o more_o if_o guilty_a of_o idolatry_n it_o fall_v under_o the_o apostle_n excommunication_n gal._n 1._o 8._o and_o so_o remain_v deprive_v of_o the_o lawful_a authority_n to_o use_v and_o exercise_v the_o power_n of_o order_n and_o consequent_o the_o authority_n of_o govern_v preach_a and_o administer_a sacrament_n which_o those_o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n challenge_n to_o themselves_o as_o derive_v from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n can_v be_v no_o true_a and_o lawful_a jurisdiction_n but_o usurp_v and_o antichristian_a this_o be_v what_o follow_v against_o the_o church_n of_o england_n from_o the_o charge_n of_o idolatry_n upon_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o so_o much_o the_o more_o as_o issue_v from_o his_o pen_n who_o in_o his_o irenicum_fw-la a_o book_n very_o humble_o tender_v by_o he_o to_o consideration_n after_o the_o re-settlement_n of_o episcopacy_n in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n maintain_v that_o no_o particular_a form_n of_o church_n government_n be_v de_fw-fr jure_fw-la divino_fw-la but_o mutable_a as_o the_o secular_a magistrate_n with_o the_o advice_n of_o learned_a and_o experience_a person_n shall_v see_v convenient_a for_o state_n and_o church_n and_o particular_o that_o the_o main_a ground_n for_o settle_v episcopal_a government_n in_o this_o nation_n be_v not_o any_o pretence_n of_o divine_a right_n but_o conveniency_n to_o the_o state_n and_o condition_n of_o the_o church_n at_o the_o time_n of_o its_o reformation_n cite_v for_o it_o the_o testimony_n of_o arch_a bishop_n cranmer_n and_o other_o mr._n foulis_n i_o know_v speak_v of_o that_o book_n call_v he_o a_o bold_a fellow_n that_o publish_v it_o and_o affirm_v that_o he_o little_o understand_v the_o compass_n and_o merit_n of_o that_o controversy_n i_o like_v not_o the_o rudeness_n of_o these_o and_o other_o expression_n of_o like_a nature_n he_o there_o use_v and_o i_o forbear_v to_o repeat_v yet_o i_o can_v willing_o join_v with_o he_o so_o far_o in_o charity_n as_o to_o impute_v it_o rather_o to_o inadvertence_n than_o design_n in_o my_o adversary_n do_v not_o this_o new_a charge_n of_o idolatry_n seem_v but_o too_o apparent_o to_o be_v but_o a_o clinch_a of_o the_o nail_n which_o he_o have_v drive_v before_o to_o the_o head_n for_o if_o the_o form_n of_o church-government_n be_v mutable_a as_o the_o secular_a power_n well-advised_a shall_v see_v reason_n what_o great_a reason_n can_v there_o be_v for_o the_o actual_a change_n of_o it_o than_o the_o nullity_n of_o its_o jurisdiction_n this_o have_v make_v i_o wonder_n not_o a_o little_a how_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n can_v see_v their_o authority_n so_o close_o attack_v at_o least_o so_o manifest_o betray_v by_o their_o pretend_a champion_n and_o not_o vindicate_v themselves_o and_o their_o jurisdiction_n from_o the_o â—oul_a stain_n of_o antichristian_a which_o necessary_o follow_v if_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n as_o he_o pretend_v be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n and_o they_o derive_v together_o with_o their_o consecration_n their_o episcopal_a jurisdiction_n from_o it_o but_o i_o shall_v leave_v these_o thing_n to_o those_o who_o it_o concern_v and_o betake_v myself_o to_o my_o present_a business_n which_o be_v to_o show_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n neither_o in_o her_o doctrine_n nor_o practice_n conformable_a to_o her_o doctrine_n be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n and_o this_o i_o bid_v do_v much_o soon_o have_v not_o the_o time_n spend_v iâ—_n transcribe_v lest_o the_o copy_n shall_v be_v surprise_v the_o difficulty_n of_o the_o press_n which_o also_o increase_v the_o errata_fw-la and_o other_o employment_n 〈◊〉_d a_o few_o for_o we_o also_o be_v none_o of_o those_o happy_a man_n who_o have_v only_o one_o thing_n to_o mind_n reâ—arded_v i_o in_o my_o design_n errata_fw-la in_o the_o preface_n page_n 2._o line_n 27._o for_o point_v read_v printing_n p._n 6._o l._n 8._o r._n dr._n tailor_n that_o neither_o p_o 25._o l._n 15._o r._n question_v thus_o put_v p._n 35._o l._n 30._o for_o with_o r._n against_o p._n 38._o l._n 8._o for_o couse_n r._n causâ—_n l._n 9_o for_o er_n r._n eos_fw-la p._n 41_o l._n 10_o r._n write_n p._n 5â—_n l._n 28._o r._n beholder_n p._n 64_o l_o 12_o r._n irrepresentablenes_n p._n 80._o l._n 11._o for_o the_o r._n he_o p._n 81._o l._n 18._o f._n seat_n r._n state_n p._n 87._o l._n 6._o f._n do_v r._n draw_v p._n 92._o l._n ult_n r._n advantage_n p._n 124._o l._n 11._o add_v in_o the_o marg._n of_o the_o church_n li._n 3._o c._n 36._o p._n 134._o l._n 3._o f._n cross_n r._n cross_n p._n 138._o l._n 23._o r._n â—ue_v that_o by_o p._n 140._o l._n ult_n f._n rash_o r._n vain_o p._n 158._o l._n 27._o r._n obcaecans_n l._n 27._o f._n that_o r._n that_o be_v p._n 161._o l._n 25._o or_o imagine_v r._n imagine_v l._n 28._o for_o oracre_n r._n oraces_n p_o 172._o l._n 5._o for_o in_o r._n i_o p._n 178._o l._n 25._o r._n in_o this_o matter_n p._n 212._o l._n 27._o for_o honour_n r._n comfort_n p._n 2â—7_n l_o 6._o r._n wherefore_o p._n 246._o l._n 2._o r._n beget_v son_n p._n 360._o l._n 30._o f._n first_o r._n â—isth_n p._n 363._o l._n 2._o after_o foâ—_n biu_n put_v st._n nicholas_n for_o eru_n p._n 411._o l._n 7._o 8._o f._n paul_n r._n paula_n l._n 23._o praise_n r._n pray_v p._n 448._o l._n 17._o f._n flood_n r._n flood_n the_o content_n of_o the_o chapter_n part_n i._n of_o the_o veneration_n of_o holy_a image_n chap._n 1._o dr_n stillingfleet_n one_a and_o second_o answer_v to_o the_o first_o question_n show_v not_o pertinent_a necessity_n of_o communion_n with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n prove_v and_o his_o charge_n of_o idolatry_n overthrow_v by_o his_o own_o principle_n pag._n 1._o chap._n 2._o his_o chief_a argument_n to_o prove_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n guilty_a of_o idolatry_n examine_v and_o his_o preposterous_a way_n of_o argue_v lay_v open_a pag._n 17._o chap._n 3._o the_o mystery_n of_o make_v the_o same_o proposition_n sometime_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n and_o sometime_o none_o no_o express_a text_n against_o worship_v god_n by_o a_o image_n his_o first_o proof_n from_o the_o term_n of_o the_o law_n manifest_o groundless_a the_o argument_n from_o st._n augustine_n judgement_n and_o the_o septuagint_n translate_n the_o word_n pesel_n idol_n and_o
assistance_n we_o can_v do_v it_o we_o worship_v therefore_o the_o martyr_n with_o that_o worship_n of_o love_n and_o society_n with_o which_o even_o in_o this_o life_n also_o holy_a man_n of_o god_n be_v worship_v who_o heart_n we_o judge_v prepare_v to_o suffer_v the_o like_a martyrdom_n for_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n but_o we_o worship_v they_o so_o much_o the_o more_o devout_o because_o more_o secure_o after_o they_o have_v overcome_v all_o the_o incertainty_n of_o this_o world_n as_o also_o we_o praise_v they_o more_o confident_o now_o reign_v conqueror_n in_o a_o more_o happy_a life_n than_o whilst_o they_o be_v fight_v in_o this_o but_o with_o that_o worship_n which_o in_o greek_a be_v call_v latria_n and_o can_v be_v express_v by_o one_o word_n in_o latin_a for_o as_o much_o as_o it_o be_v a_o certain_a service_n proper_o due_a to_o the_o divinity_n we_o neither_o worship_v they_o nor_o teach_v they_o to_o be_v worship_v but_o god_n alone_o now_o whereas_o the_o offering_n of_o sacrifice_n belong_v to_o this_o worship_n of_o latria_n from_o whence_o they_o be_v call_v idolater_n who_o give_v it_o also_o to_o idol_n by_o no_o mean_n do_v we_o suffer_v any_o such_o thing_n or_o command_v it_o to_o be_v offer_v to_o any_o martyr_n or_o any_o holy_a soul_n or_o any_o angel_n and_o whosoever_o decline_v into_o this_o error_n we_o reprove_v he_o by_o sound_a dectrine_n either_o that_o he_o may_v be_v correct_v or_o avoid_v and_o a_o little_a after_o it_o be_v a_o much_o less_o sin_n for_o a_o man_n to_o be_v deride_v by_o the_o martyr_n for_o drunkenness_n than_o even_o fast_v to_o offer_v sacrifice_n to_o they_o i_o say_v to_o sacrifice_v to_o martyr_n i_o say_v not_o to_o sacrifice_v to_o god_n in_o the_o memory_n or_o church_n of_o the_o martyr_n which_o we_o do_v most_o frequent_o by_o that_o rite_n alone_o by_o which_o in_o the_o manifestation_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n he_o have_v command_v sacrifice_n to_o be_v offer_v to_o he_o which_o belong_v to_o that_o worship_n which_o be_v call_v latria_n and_o be_v due_a only_a to_o god_n this_o be_v the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o christian_a people_n in_o st._n augustine_n '_o s_o time_n and_o that_o he_o himself_o hold_v formal_a invocation_n a_o part_n of_o the_o worship_n due_a to_o saint_n be_v evident_a from_o the_o prayer_n he_o make_v to_o st._n cyprian_n after_o his_o martyrdom_n adjuvet_fw-la nos_fw-la itaque_fw-la beatus_fw-la cyprianus_n orationibus_fw-la suis_fw-la 1._o etc._n etc._n let_v bless_v cyprian_a therefore_o help_v we_o who_o be_v still_o encompass_v with_o this_o mortal_a flesh_n and_o labour_v as_o in_o a_o dark_a cloud_n with_o his_o prayer_n that_o by_o god_n grace_n we_o may_v as_o far_o as_o we_o be_v able_a imitate_v his_o good_a work_n thus_o st._n austin_n where_o you_o see_v he_o direct_v his_o prayer_n to_o st._n cyprian_n which_o i_o take_v to_o be_v formal_a invocation_n and_o for_o a_o further_a confirmation_n of_o it_o we_o have_v the_o ingenuous_a confession_n of_o calvin_n himself_o instit_n li._n 3._o ch_n 20._o n._n 22._o where_o speak_v of_o the_o three_o council_n of_o carthage_n in_o which_o st._n austin_n be_v present_a he_o acknowledge_v it_o be_v the_o custom_n at_o that_o time_n to_o say_v sancta_fw-la maria_fw-la aut_fw-la sancte_fw-la petre_n ora_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la holy_a mary_n or_o holy_a peter_n pray_v for_o we_o but_o now_o madam_n what_o if_o after_o all_o this_o he_o himself_o shall_v deny_v that_o any_o of_o the_o opposite_a tenet_n be_v article_n of_o his_o faith_n viz._n that_o honour_n be_v not_o to_o be_v give_v to_o the_o image_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o saint_n that_o what_o appear_v to_o be_v bread_n in_o the_o eucharist_n be_v not_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o invocate_v the_o saint_n to_o pray_v for_o we_o press_v he_o close_o and_o i_o believe_v you_o shall_v find_v he_o deny_v that_o he_o believe_v any_o one_o of_o these_o negative_a point_n to_o be_v divine_a truth_n and_o if_o so_o you_o will_v easy_o see_v his_o charge_n of_o idolatry_n against_o we_o to_o be_v vain_a and_o groundless_a have_v thus_o give_v a_o direct_a and_o punctual_a answer_n to_o his_o argument_n i_o must_v now_o expect_v as_o much_o charity_n from_o he_o as_o be_v consistent_a with_o scripture_n and_o reason_n how_o much_o that_o be_v you_o will_v see_v in_o his_o three_o answer_n to_o the_o first_o question_n but_o to_o proceed_v §_o 8._o he_o bring_v a_o miscellany_n of_o such_o opinion_n and_o practice_n as_o he_o call_v they_o which_o be_v very_o apt_a to_o hinder_v a_o good_a life_n and_o therefore_o none_o who_o have_v a_o care_n of_o their_o salvation_n can_v venture_v their_o soul_n in_o the_o communion_n of_o such_o a_o church_n which_o either_o enjoin_v or_o public_o allow_v they_o he_o reckon_v up_o no_o less_o than_o ten._n 1._o that_o we_o destroy_v the_o necessity_n of_o good_a life_n by_o make_v the_o sacrament_n of_o penance_n that_o be_v confession_n and_o absolution_n join_v with_o contrition_n sufficient_a for_o salvation_n and_o do_v not_o protestant_n make_v contrition_n alone_o which_o be_v less_o sufficient_a for_o salvation_n but_o perhaps_o the_o join_n of_o confession_n and_o absolution_n with_o contrition_n make_v it_o of_o a_o malignant_a nature_n if_o so_o certain_o when_o the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n in_o the_o visitation_n of_o the_o sick_a enjoin_v the_o sick_a man_n if_o he_o find_v his_o conscience_n trouble_v with_o any_o weighty_a matter_n to_o make_v a_o special_a confession_n and_o receive_v absolution_n from_o the_o priest_n in_o the_o same_o word_n the_o catholic_n church_n use_v it_o prescribe_v he_o that_o as_o a_o mean_n to_o prepare_v himself_o for_o a_o holy_a death_n which_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o objector_n destroy_v the_o necessity_n of_o good_a life_n 2._o catholic_n he_o say_v take_v off_o the_o care_n of_o good_a life_n by_o suppose_v a_o expiation_n of_o sin_n by_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o live_a after_o death_n but_o certain_o the_o belief_n of_o temporal_a pain_n to_o be_v sustain_v after_o death_n if_o there_o be_v not_o a_o perfect_a expiation_n of_o sin_n in_o this_o life_n by_o work_n of_o penance_n be_v rather_o apt_a to_o make_v a_o man_n careful_a not_o to_o commit_v the_o least_o sin_n than_o to_o take_v off_o the_o care_n of_o a_o good_a life_n and_o though_o he_o be_v ascertain_v by_o faith_n that_o he_o may_v be_v holpen_v by_o the_o charitable_a suffrage_n of_o the_o faithful_a live_n yet_o this_o be_v no_o more_o encouragement_n to_o he_o to_o sin_n than_o it_o will_v be_v to_o a_o spendthrift_n to_o run_v into_o debt_n and_o be_v cast_v into_o prison_n because_o he_o know_v he_o may_v be_v relieve_v by_o the_o charity_n of_o his_o friend_n if_o he_o be_v sure_o there_o be_v no_o prison_n for_o he_o that_o will_v be_v a_o encouragement_n indeed_o to_o play_v the_o spendthrift_n and_o this_o be_v the_o case_n of_o the_o protestant_n in_o their_o denial_n of_o purgatory_n 3._o the_o sincerity_n of_o devotion_n he_o say_v be_v much_o obstruct_v by_o prayer_n in_o a_o language_n which_o many_o understand_v not_o if_o he_o speak_v of_o private_a prayer_n all_o catholic_n be_v teach_v to_o say_v they_o in_o their_o mother_n tongue_n if_o of_o the_o public_a prayer_n of_o the_o church_n i_o understand_v not_o why_o it_o may_v not_o be_v do_v with_o as_o much_o sincerity_n of_o devotion_n the_o people_n join_v their_o intention_n and_o particular_a prayer_n with_o the_o priest_n as_o their_o ambassador_n to_o god_n as_o if_o they_o understand_v he_o i_o be_o sure_a the_o effect_n of_o a_o sincere_a devotion_n for_o nine_o hundred_o year_n together_o which_o this_o manner_n of_o worship_n produce_v in_o this_o nation_n be_v much_o different_a from_o those_o we_o have_v see_v since_o the_o reduce_n of_o the_o public_a liturgy_n into_o english_a as_o be_v manifest_a from_o those_o monument_n which_o yet_o remain_v of_o church_n college_n religious_a house_n etc._n etc._n with_o their_o endowment_n and_o in_o the_o conversion_n of_o many_o nation_n from_o heathenism_n to_o christianity_n effect_v by_o the_o labour_n and_o zeal_n of_o english_a missionary_n in_o those_o time_n etc._n etc._n but_o this_o be_v a_o matter_n of_o discipline_n and_o so_o not_o to_o be_v regulate_v by_o the_o fancy_n of_o private_a man_n but_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n and_o so_o universal_a have_v this_o practice_n be_v both_o in_o the_o primitive_a greek_a and_o latin_a church_n and_o be_v still_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o the_o protestant_n author_n themselves_o of_o the_o bible_n of_o many_o language_n print_v at_o london_n anno_fw-la 1655._o in_o most_o of_o the_o sect_n of_o christian_n to_o have_v not_o only_o the_o scripture_n but_o
be_v engage_v in_o it_o yet_o it_o be_v certain_a they_o reclaim_v against_o their_o proceed_n and_o if_o the_o father_n at_o francford_n persist_v in_o their_o mistake_n what_o wonder_v if_o the_o historian_n of_o that_o time_n who_o favour_v they_o take_v no_o notice_n of_o it_o or_o if_o the_o english_a historian_n run_v into_o the_o same_o error_n as_o it_o be_v manifest_a they_o do_v by_o what_o hoveden_n report_v 792._o that_o the_o english_a bishop_n believe_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a to_o be_v that_o adoration_n be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o image_n which_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n abhor_v that_o the_o author_n of_o the_o caroline_n book_n and_o agobardus_n after_o he_o do_v not_o content_v themselves_o with_o what_o the_o council_n of_o francford_n have_v condemn_v viz._n that_o worship_n be_v not_o to_o be_v give_v to_o image_n as_o to_o the_o holy_a trinity_n but_o deny_v any_o veneration_n at_o all_o to_o be_v due_a to_o they_o as_o the_o doctor_n will_v have_v it_o hinder_v not_o but_o that_o the_o council_n of_o francford_n condemn_v that_o of_o nice_a upon_o a_o misunderstanding_n of_o its_o doctrine_n as_o i_o have_v evident_o show_v §_o 3._o second_o but_o now_o suppose_v there_o have_v be_v no_o mistake_n but_o that_o the_o father_n at_o francford_n as_o my_o adversary_n will_v have_v it_o have_v real_o condemn_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a yet_o i_o affirm_v it_o have_v be_v no_o advantage_n to_o his_o cause_n because_o as_o himself_o p._n 84._o say_v the_o pope_n of_o rome_n side_v with_o the_o worshipper_n of_o image_n that_o be_v confirm_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a whereas_o they_o oppose_v and_o reject_v the_o condemnation_n of_o it_o by_o the_o father_n of_o francford_n that_o the_o pope_n legate_n contradict_v it_o in_o the_o synod_n 9_o be_v confess_v by_o the_o magdeburgenses_n and_o that_o the_o pope_n himself_o oppose_v it_o be_v manifest_a from_o the_o confutation_n he_o write_v of_o the_o caroline_n book_n and_o that_o no_o decree_n of_o any_o council_n can_v be_v valid_a without_o the_o pope_n consent_n be_v so_o undoubted_a a_o thing_n among_o all_o christian_n that_o the_o author_n himself_o of_o that_o book_n dare_v not_o deny_v it_o but_o on_o the_o contrary_n affirm_v it_o to_o have_v be_v the_o sense_n even_o of_o the_o father_n of_o francford_n as_o acknowledge_v and_o profess_v the_o last_o judgement_n of_o controversy_n to_o belong_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o upon_o this_o account_n they_o affirm_v the_o council_n of_o nice_a be_v to_o be_v reject_v 794._o viz._n for_o that_o it_o have_v not_o be_v confirm_v as_o they_o pretend_v though_o false_o by_o the_o pope_n and_o if_o the_o father_n of_o francford_n look_v upon_o it_o then_o as_o a_o advantage_n to_o their_o cause_n that_o the_o pope_n as_o they_o pretend_v have_v not_o side_v with_o the_o worshipper_n of_o image_n that_o be_v with_o the_o nicen_n father_n how_o come_v the_o doctor_n to_o look_v upon_o it_o now_o as_o so_o apparent_a a_o advantage_n to_o the_o same_o cause_n that_o the_o pope_n as_o he_o confess_v side_v with_o they_o what_o i_o can_v discover_v here_o be_v nothing_o but_o a_o great_a improvement_n of_o confidence_n to_o allege_v that_o for_o a_o advantage_n which_o in_o church-affair_n be_v the_o great_a prejudice_n upon_o earth_n but_o if_o the_o pope_n confirm_v the_o council_n of_o nice_a be_v no_o advantage_n to_o his_o cause_n as_o little_a be_v it_o that_o the_o council_n at_o francford_n deny_v it_o to_o be_v ecumenical_a because_o the_o greek_n only_o be_v there_o present_a and_o none_o of_o the_o other_o province_n be_v call_v for_o what_o weight_n soever_o the_o doctor_n may_v conceive_v that_o exception_n to_o have_v carry_v at_o that_o time_n yet_o it_o be_v certain_a now_o it_o have_v no_o force_n at_o all_o since_o the_o council_n itself_o have_v for_o many_o hundred_o of_o year_n be_v accept_v as_o a_o true_a and_o lawful_a general_n council_n and_o its_o doctrine_n as_o catholic_n by_o all_o the_o province_n of_o christendom_n and_o the_o contrary_a to_o it_o condemn_v for_o heresy_n and_o this_o be_v no_o other_o 〈◊〉_d what_o mr._n thorndike_n answer_v to_o two_o objection_n urge_v from_o st._n epiphanius_n and_o the_o council_n of_o elvira_n 19_o that_o grant_v they_o hold_v all_o image_n in_o church_n dangerous_a for_o idolatry_n of_o which_o say_v he_o there_o be_v appearance_n it_o be_v manifest_a they_o be_v afterward_o admit_v all_o over_o from_o whence_o it_o follow_v that_o what_o dr._n st._n argue_v from_o the_o synod_n of_o paris_n under_o ludovicus_n pius_n which_o be_v indeed_o but_o a_o conference_n of_o some_o learned_a man_n condemn_v pope_n adrian_n for_o a_o superstitious_a adoration_n of_o image_n 825._o from_o the_o doctrine_n also_o of_o the_o author_n of_o the_o caroline_n book_n and_o that_o of_o agobardus_n which_o baluzius_n say_v he_o confess_v to_o be_v no_o more_o than_o the_o whole_a gallican_n church_n believe_v in_o that_o age_n be_v no_o advantage_n at_o all_o to_o his_o cause_n because_o in_o supposition_n that_o they_o then_o do_v look_v upon_o the_o very_a true_a doctrine_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a as_o dangerous_a and_o impugn_v it_o as_o such_o by_o reason_n of_o a_o very_a evil_a superstition_n the_o same_o baluzius_n say_v have_v possess_v the_o mind_n of_o some_o person_n in_o that_o age_n viz._n that_o the_o same_o worship_n be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o image_n as_o to_o the_o bless_a trinity_n yet_o afterward_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o say_v nicene_n council_n prevail_v all_o over_o and_o be_v receive_v as_o a_o apostolical_a tradition_n by_o the_o gallican_n church_n itself_o like_v as_o the_o doctrine_n of_o non-rebaptization_a of_o heretic_n wâ—s_v receive_v in_o the_o african_a church_n although_o it_o have_v be_v condemn_v there_o before_o in_o a_o council_n by_o st._n cyprian_n but_o upon_o a_o diligent_a survey_n of_o baluzius_n his_o discourse_n in_o that_o place_n 88_o i_o do_v not_o perceive_v his_o meaning_n to_o be_v what_o the_o doctor_n will_v have_v it_o viz._n that_o what_o agobardus_n write_v be_v the_o belief_n of_o the_o whole_a gallican_n church_n in_o that_o age_n but_o that_o it_o be_v the_o judgement_n and_o design_n of_o the_o french_a bishop_n at_o that_o time_n to_o extirpate_v by_o all_o mean_v the_o abovementioned_a superstition_n which_o then_o reign_v although_o in_o do_v it_o they_o may_v seem_v to_o run_v into_o the_o other_o extreme_a of_o deny_v any_o worship_n at_o all_o to_o be_v due_a to_o image_n all_o the_o whole_a business_n of_o the_o use_n of_o image_n be_v as_o the_o author_n of_o the_o account_n very_o well_o observe_v p._n 18_o but_o a_o matter_n of_o discipline_n and_o government_n for_o have_v he_o mean_v that_o what_o agobardus_n write_v be_v no_o more_o than_o the_o whole_a gallican_n church_n believe_v in_o that_o age_n how_o can_v the_o same_o baluzius_n tell_v we_o that_o the_o french_a bishop_n at_o that_o time_n although_o they_o seem_v to_o remove_v all_o worship_n from_o image_n yet_o allow_v they_o to_o be_v keep_v that_o the_o faithful_a by_o see_v they_o may_v be_v excite_v to_o imitate_v those_o holy_a person_n they_o represent_v agob_n whereas_o agobardus_n go_v so_o far_o as_o to_o affirm_v that_o they_o be_v keep_v for_o ornament_n to_o delight_v the_o eye_n but_o not_o for_o the_o instruction_n of_o the_o people_n nay_o that_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v paint_v upon_o the_o church-wall_n be_v this_o the_o belief_n of_o the_o gallican_n church_n in_o that_o age_n when_o ionas_n aurelianensis_fw-la waâ—_n command_v by_o ludovicus_n piusâ—o_v â—o_z 〈◊〉_d against_o claudius_n â—aurinensis_fw-la for_o cast_v they_o out_o of_o the_o church_n sure_o the_o little_a care_n there_o be_v take_v to_o preserve_v the_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o eranâ—ford_n against_o image-worship_n or_o â—ather_o the_o unanimous_a concurrence_n to_o suppress_v it_o if_o there_o be_v ever_o any_o such_o canon_n for_o it_o lay_v in_o obscurity_n for_o above_o seven_o hundred_o year_n together_o till_o it_o be_v publish_v as_o my_o adversary_n say_v about_o the_o middle_n of_o the_o last_o century_n by_o du_n tillet_n as_o also_o the_o prevalency_n of_o the_o contrary_a belief_n in_o the_o gallican_n church_n as_o it_o be_v at_o this_o day_n without_o any_o noise_n or_o opposition_n be_v no_o great_a presumption_n to_o man_n who_o have_v any_o insight_n into_o the_o affair_n of_o religion_n that_o the_o say_a church_n in_o that_o age_n believe_v as_o dr._n st._n will_v have_v we_o believe_v from_o the_o confession_n of_o baluzius_n that_o no_o veneration_n be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o holy_a image_n it_o be_v upon_o the_o contrary_a supposition_n that_o baluzius_n endeavour_n to_o excuse_n agobardus_n
the_o eucharist_n be_v not_o idolatry_n because_o we_o only_o suppose_v he_o to_o be_v real_o present_a under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n but_o because_o we_o know_v and_o believe_v this_o upon_o the_o same_o ground_n and_o motive_n upon_o which_o we_o believe_v and_o those_o motive_n strong_a than_o any_o protestant_n have_v if_o he_o have_v no_o other_o than_o the_o catholic_n to_o believe_v that_o christ_n be_v god_n and_o consequent_o to_o be_v adore_v and_o therefore_o that_o you_o may_v the_o better_o see_v the_o inefficaciousness_n of_o the_o argument_n suppose_v it_o drop_v from_o the_o pen_n of_o a_o arrian_n against_o the_o adoration_n of_o christ_n as_o god_n and_o it_o will_v be_v of_o as_o much_o force_n to_o evince_v that_o to_o be_v idolatry_n as_o it_o be_v from_o the_o objector_n to_o prove_v the_o adoration_n of_o he_o in_o the_o eucharist_n to_o be_v so_o see_v there_o how_o a_o arrian_n may_v argue_v in_o the_o same_o form_n the_o same_o argument_n which_o will_v make_v the_o gross_a heathen_a idolatry_n lawful_a can_v excuse_v any_o act_n from_o idolatry_n but_o the_o same_o argument_n whereby_o the_o protestant_n make_v the_o worship_n of_o christ_n a_o pure_a man_n say_v the_o arrian_n not_o to_o be_v idolatry_n will_v make_v the_o gross_a heathen_a idolatry_n not_o to_o be_v so_o for_o if_o it_o be_v not_o therefore_o idolatry_n because_o they_o suppose_v christ_n to_o be_v god_n than_o the_o worship_n of_o the_o sun_n be_v not_o idolatry_n by_o they_o who_o suppose_v the_o sun_n to_o be_v god_n etc._n etc._n now_o the_o same_o answer_n which_o solve_v the_o arrian_n argument_n against_o the_o adoration_n of_o christ_n as_o god_n serve_v no_o less_o to_o solve_v the_o objector_n argument_n against_o the_o adoration_n of_o he_o in_o the_o eucharist_n since_o we_o have_v a_o like_a divine_a revelation_n for_o his_o real_a presence_n under_o the_o sacramental_a sign_n as_o we_o have_v for_o his_o be_v true_a god_n and_o man._n but_o what_o if_o catholic_n shall_v be_v mistake_v in_o their_o belief_n will_v it_o then_o follow_v that_o they_o be_v idolater_n dr._n taylor_n a_o eminent_a and_o lead_a man_n among_o the_o protestant_n deny_v the_o consequence_n his_o word_n be_v these_o in_o the_o liberty_n of_o prophesy_v sect._n 20._o numb_a 26._o idolatry_n say_v he_o be_v a_o forsake_v the_o true_a god_n and_o give_v divine_a worship_n to_o a_o creature_n or_o to_o a_o idol_n that_o be_v to_o a_o imaginary_a god_n who_o have_v no_o foundation_n in_o essence_n or_o existence_n and_o this_o be_v that_o kind_n of_o superstition_n which_o by_o divine_n be_v call_v the_o superstition_n of_o a_o undue_a object_n now_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o object_n of_o their_o that_o be_v the_o catholic_n adoration_n that_o which_o be_v represent_v to_o they_o in_o their_o mind_n their_o thought_n and_o purpose_n and_o by_o which_o god_n principal_o if_o not_o sole_o take_v estimate_n of_o humane_a action_n in_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n be_v the_o only_a true_a and_o eternal_a god_n hypostatical_o join_v with_o his_o holy_a humanity_n which_o humanity_n they_o believe_v actual_o present_a under_o the_o veil_n of_o the_o sacramental_a sign_n and_o if_o they_o think_v he_o not_o present_a they_o be_v so_o far_o from_o worship_v the_o bread_n in_o this_o case_n that_o themselves_o profess_v it_o idolatry_n to_o do_v so_o which_o be_v a_o demonstration_n mark_n that_o that_o their_o soul_n have_v nothing_o in_o it_o that_o be_v idolatrical_a if_o their_o confidence_n and_o fanciful_a opinion_n so_o he_o term_v the_o faith_n of_o catholic_n have_v engage_v they_o upon_o so_o great_a a_o mistake_n as_o without_o doubt_n he_o say_v it_o have_v yet_o the_o will_n have_v nothing_o in_o it_o but_o what_o be_v a_o great_a enemy_n to_o idolatry_n et_fw-la nihil_fw-la ardet_fw-la in_o inferno_fw-la nisi_fw-la propria_fw-la voluntas_fw-la that_o be_v nothing_o burn_v in_o hell_n but_o proper_a will._n thus_o dr._n taylor_n and_o i_o think_v it_o will_v be_v a_o task_n worthy_a the_o objector_n pain_n to_o solve_v his_o argument_n if_o he_o will_v not_o absolve_v we_o from_o be_v idolater_n §_o 7._o he_o proceed_v to_o prove_v that_o catholic_n be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n by_o their_o invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o his_o argument_n be_v this_o if_o the_o supposition_n of_o a_o middle_a excellency_n between_o god_n and_o we_o be_v a_o sufficient_a ground_n for_o formal_a invocation_n than_o the_o heathen_n worship_n of_o their_o inferior_a deâ—ities_n can_v be_v no_o idolatry_n for_o the_o heathen_n still_o pretend_v that_o they_o do_v not_o give_v to_o they_o the_o worship_n proper_a to_o the_o supreme_a god_n which_o be_v as_o much_o as_o be_v pretend_v by_o the_o devout_a papist_n in_o justification_n of_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n to_o answer_v this_o argument_n i_o shall_v need_v little_o more_o than_o to_o explicate_v the_o hard_a word_n in_o it_o which_o thus_o i_o do_v by_o person_n of_o a_o middle_a excellency_n we_o understand_v person_n endow_v with_o supernatural_a gift_n of_o grace_n in_o this_o life_n and_o glory_n in_o heaven_n who_o prayer_n by_o consequence_n be_v acceptable_a and_o available_a with_o god_n what_o at_o he_o mean_v by_o formal_a invocation_n i_o understand_v not_o well_o but_o what_o we_o understand_v by_o it_o be_v desire_v or_o pray_v those_o just_a person_n to_o pray_v for_o we_o the_o supreme_a deity_n of_o the_o heathen_n be_v know_v to_o be_v jupiter_n and_o their_o inferior_a deity_n venus_n mars_n bacchus_n vulcan_n and_o the_o like_a rabble_n of_o devil_n as_o the_o scripture_n call_v they_o the_o god_n of_o the_o heathen_n be_v devil_n the_o term_n thus_o explicate_v it_o be_v easy_a to_o see_v the_o inconsequence_n of_o the_o argument_n that_o because_o the_o heathen_n be_v idolater_n in_o worship_v mars_n and_o venus_n their_o inâ—eriour_a deity_n or_o rather_o devil_n though_o they_o pretend_v not_o to_o give_v they_o the_o worship_n proper_a to_o jupiter_n their_o supreme_a god_n therefore_o the_o catholic_n must_v be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n in_o desire_v the_o servant_n of_o the_o true_a god_n to_o pray_v for_o they_o to_o he_o upon_o this_o account_n we_o must_v not_o desire_v the_o prayer_n of_o a_o just_a man_n even_o in_o this_o life_n because_o this_o formal_a invocation_n will_v be_v to_o make_v he_o a_o inferior_a deity_n but_o if_o some_o sect_n of_o heathen_n as_o the_o platonist_n do_v attain_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o true_a god_n yet_o st._n paul_n say_v they_o do_v not_o glorify_v he_o as_o god_n but_o change_v his_o glory_n into_o a_o image_n make_v like_a to_o corruptible_a man_n adoring_z and_o offer_v sacrifice_n due_a to_o god_n alone_o to_o the_o statue_n themselves_o or_o the_o inferior_a deity_n they_o suppose_v to_o dwell_v or_o assist_v in_o they_o which_o inferior_a deity_n st._n austin_n upon_o the_o ninety_o six_o psalm_n prove_v to_o be_v devil_n or_o evil_a angel_n because_o they_o require_v sacrifice_n to_o be_v offer_v to_o they_o and_o will_v be_v worship_v as_o go_n now_o what_o comparison_n there_o be_v between_o this_o worship_n of_o the_o heathen_n inferior_a deity_n and_o christian_n worship_n of_o saint_n and_o angel_n let_v the_o same_o st._n austin_n declare_v in_o his_o twenty_o book_n against_o faustus_n the_o manichaean_n chap._n 21._o faâ—stus_n there_n calumniate_v the_o catholic_n the_o word_n be_v st._n augustine_n because_o they_o honour_v the_o memory_n or_o shrine_n of_o martyr_n charge_v they_o to_o have_v turn_v the_o idol_n into_o martyr_n who_o they_o worship_v say_v he_o with_o like_a vow_n the_o objection_n you_o see_v be_v not_o new_a that_o catholic_n make_v inferior_a deity_n of_o their_o saint_n faustus_n long_o ago_o make_v it_o and_o st._n austin_n '_o s_o answer_n will_v serve_v as_o well_o now_o as_o then_o christian_n people_n say_v he_o do_v with_o religious_a solemnity_n celebrate_v the_o memory_n of_o martyr_n both_o to_o excite_v to_o the_o imitation_n of_o they_o and_o to_o become_v partaker_n of_o their_o merit_n and_o be_v holpen_v by_o their_o prayer_n but_o so_o that_o we_o erect_v altar_n not_o to_o any_o of_o the_o martyr_n but_o to_o the_o god_n of_o martyr_n although_o in_o memory_n of_o the_o say_a martyr_n for_o what_o bishop_n efficiate_a at_o the_o altar_n in_o the_o place_n where_o their_o holy_a body_n be_v deposit_v do_v say_v at_o any_o time_n we_o offer_v to_o thou_o peter_n or_o paul_n or_o cyprian_a but_o what_o be_v offer_v be_v offer_v to_o god_n who_o crown_v the_o martyr_n at_o the_o memory_n of_o those_o who_o he_o crown_v that_o be_v put_v in_o mind_n by_o the_o very_a place_n a_o great_a affection_n may_v be_v raise_v in_o we_o to_o quicken_v our_o love_n both_o to_o those_o who_o we_o may_v imitate_v and_o towards_o he_o by_o who_o
he_o have_v misrepresent_v they_o thus_o than_o he_o liberty_n of_o proph._n sect._n 20._o speak_v of_o catholic_n the_o beauty_n and_o splendour_n of_o their_o church_n their_o pompous_n he_o shall_v have_v say_v solemn_a service_n the_o stateliness_n and_o solemnity_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n their_o name_n of_o catholic_n which_o they_o suppose_v he_o shall_v have_v say_v their_o very_a adversary_n give_v they_o as_o their_o own_o due_a and_o to_o concern_v no_o other_o sect_n of_o christian_n the_o antiquity_n of_o many_o of_o their_o doctrine_n he_o shall_v have_v say_v all_o the_o continual_a succession_n of_o their_o bishop_n their_o immediate_a derivation_n from_o the_o apostle_n their_o title_n to_o succeed_v st._n peter_n the_o flatter_a he_o shall_v have_v say_v due_a expression_n of_o minor_a bishop_n he_o mean_v in_o acknowledge_v the_o pope_n head_n of_o the_o church_n which_o by_o be_v old_a record_n have_v obtain_v credibility_n the_o multitude_n and_o variety_n of_o people_n which_o be_v of_o their_o persuasion_n apparent_a consent_n with_o antiquity_n in_o many_o ceremonial_n which_o other_o church_n have_v reject_v and_o a_o pretend_a and_o sometime_o he_o shall_v have_v say_v always_o apparent_a consent_n with_o some_o elder_a age_n in_o matter_n doctrinal_a the_o great_a consent_n of_o one_o part_n with_o another_o in_o that_o which_o most_o of_o they_o affirm_v to_o be_v de_fw-fr fide_fw-la of_o faith_n the_o great_a difference_n which_o be_v commence_v among_o their_o adversary_n abuse_v the_o liberty_n of_o prophesy_v into_o a_o very_a great_a licentiousness_n their_o happiness_n of_o be_v instrument_n in_o convert_v divers_a he_o shall_v rather_o have_v say_v of_o all_o nation_n the_o piety_n and_o austerity_n of_o their_o religious_a order_n of_o man_n and_o woman_n the_o single_a life_n of_o their_o priest_n and_o bishop_n the_o severity_n of_o their_o fast_n and_o their_o exterior_a observance_n the_o great_a reputation_n of_o their_o first_o bishop_n for_o faith_n and_o sanctity_n the_o know_a holiness_n of_o some_o of_o those_o person_n who_o institute_n the_o religious_a person_n pretend_v to_o imitate_v the_o oblique_a art_n and_o indirect_a proceed_n of_o some_o of_o those_o who_o dâ—parted_v from_o they_o and_o among_o many_o other_o thing_n the_o name_n of_o heretic_n and_o schismatic_a which_o they_o with_o infinite_a pertinacity_n he_o shall_v have_v say_v upon_o the_o same_o ground_n the_o father_n do_v fasten_v upon_o all_o that_o disagree_v from_o they_o these_o thing_n say_v he_o and_o divers_a other_o may_v very_o easy_o persuade_v person_n of_o much_o reason_n and_o more_o piety_n to_o retain_v that_o which_o they_o know_v to_o have_v be_v the_o religion_n of_o their_o forefather_n which_o have_v actual_o possession_n and_o seizure_n of_o man_n understanding_n before_o the_o opposite_a profession_n to_o wit_n of_o protestant_n presbyterian_a anabaptist_n etc._n etc._n have_v a_o name_n thus_o dr._n taylor_n a_o eminent_a and_o lead_a man_n among_o the_o protestant_n and_o if_o he_o confess_v that_o these_o motive_n be_v sufficient_a for_o a_o catholic_n to_o retain_v his_o religion_n they_o must_v be_v of_o like_a force_n to_o persuade_v a_o disinteressed_n protestant_n to_o embrace_v it_o unless_o the_o protestant_n can_v produce_v motive_n for_o their_o religion_n of_o great_a or_o at_o least_o equal_a force_n with_o these_o which_o so_o great_a a_o man_n among_o they_o confess_v that_o catholic_n have_v for_o they_o here_o therefore_o you_o must_v call_v upon_o the_o author_n of_o the_o paper_n you_o send_v i_o to_o produce_v a_o catalogue_n of_o ground_n or_o at_o least_o some_o one_o ground_n for_o the_o protestant_a religion_n of_o great_a or_o equal_a force_n with_o all_o these_o and_o as_o dr._n taylor_n say_v divers_z other_o which_o he_o omit_v viz._n the_o scripture_n interpret_v by_o the_o consent_n of_o father_n the_o determination_n of_o general_n council_n the_o know_a maxim_n of_o catholic_n that_o nothing_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v of_o faith_n but_o what_o be_v receive_v from_o their_o forefather_n as_o hand_v down_o from_o the_o apostle_n the_o testimony_n of_o the_o present_a church_n of_o no_o less_o authority_n now_o than_o in_o st._n augustine_n time_n both_o for_o the_o letter_n and_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o scripture_n etc._n etc._n do_v this_o and_o the_o controversy_n will_v quick_o be_v at_o a_o end_n particular_a dispute_n be_v endless_a and_o above_o the_o understanding_n of_o such_o as_o be_v not_o learned_a but_o in_o ground_n and_o principle_n it_o be_v not_o so_o hard_a for_o reason_n and_o common_a sense_n to_o judge_n that_o you_o may_v the_o better_a do_v it_o in_o your_o case_n i_o shall_v desire_v you_o to_o take_v these_o two_o caution_n along_o with_o you_o first_o that_o the_o subject_a of_o the_o present_a controversy_n be_v not_o those_o article_n in_o which_o the_o protestant_n agree_v with_o we_o and_o for_o which_o they_o may_v pretend_v to_o produce_v the_o same_o motive_n we_o do_v but_o in_o those_o in_o which_o they_o dissent_v from_o we_o such_o as_o be_v no_o transubstantiation_n no_o purgatory_n no_o honour_n due_a to_o image_n no_o invocation_n to_o saint_n and_o the_o like_a in_o which_o the_o very_a essence_n of_o protestant_n as_o distinct_a from_o catholic_n consist_v what_o motive_n they_o can_v or_o will_v produce_v for_o these_o i_o do_v not_o foresee_v the_o pretence_n of_o scripture_n be_v sufficient_o plain_a have_v no_o place_n here_o because_o then_o the_o foresay_a negative_n will_v be_v necessary_a to_o be_v believe_v as_o divine_a truth_n and_o for_o their_o own_o reason_n and_o learning_n it_o will_v be_v find_v too_o light_v when_o put_v into_o the_o scale_n against_o that_o of_o the_o catholic_n church_n for_o so_o many_o age_n the_o second_o caution_n be_v that_o you_o be_v careful_a to_o distinguish_v between_o protestant_n produce_v ground_n for_o their_o own_o religion_n and_o find_v fault_n with_o we_o a_o atheist_n can_v cavil_v and_o find_v fault_n with_o the_o ground_n which_o learned_a man_n bring_v to_o prove_v a_o deity_n such_o as_o be_v the_o order_n of_o this_o visible_a world_n the_o general_a consent_n of_o nation_n etc._n etc._n in_o this_o a_o atheist_n think_v he_o do_v somewhat_o but_o can_v he_o produce_v as_o good_a or_o better_a ground_n for_o his_o own_o opinion_n no_o you_o see_v then_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o produce_v ground_n for_o what_o we_o hold_v and_o another_o to_o find_v fault_n with_o those_o which_o be_v produce_v by_o the_o contrary_a part_n the_o latter_a have_v make_v controversy_n so_o long_o and_o the_o former_a will_v make_v it_o as_o short_a let_v the_o answerer_n therefore_o instead_o of_o find_v fault_n with_o our_o motive_n produce_v his_o own_o for_o the_o article_n in_o controversy_n and_o i_o be_o confident_a you_o will_v quick_o discern_v which_o carry_v the_o most_o weight_n and_o consequent_o which_o be_v to_o be_v prefer_v a_o full_a refutation_n of_o dr._n stillingfleet_n unjust_a charge_n of_o idolatry_n against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n the_o first_o part._n of_o the_o veneration_n of_o holy_a image_n chap._n i._n the_o first_o and_o second_o answer_n to_o the_o first_o question_n show_v not_o pertinent_a necessity_n of_o communion_n with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n prove_v and_o his_o charge_n of_o idolatry_n overthrow_v by_o his_o own_o principle_n §_o 1._o whoever_o consider_v how_o dr._n stillingfleet_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o two_o question_n have_v engage_v himself_o and_o his_o adversary_n in_o seventeen_o or_o eighteen_o of_o the_o most_o material_a controversy_n between_o catholic_n and_o protestant_n beside_o innumerable_a other_o of_o lesser_a concern_n which_o together_o with_o the_o former_a have_v swell_v his_o rejoynder_n to_o a_o short_a paper_n into_o a_o large_a book_n will_v not_o very_o easy_o free_v he_o upon_o his_o own_o word_n from_o be_v fond_a of_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o noble_a science_n of_o controversy_n or_o as_o his_o friend_n dr._n t._n call_v it_o the_o bless_a art_n of_o eternal_a wrangle_a especial_o if_o he_o reflect_v how_o easy_a and_o obvious_a the_o answer_n be_v to_o the_o question_n themselves_o without_o run_v into_o far_a dispute_n to_o the_o first_o by_o show_v that_o the_o motive_n which_o be_v sufficient_a to_o secure_v the_o salvation_n of_o one_o breed_v up_o and_o well-grounded_n in_o catholic_n religion_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o secure_v the_o salvation_n of_o one_o breed_v up_o in_o the_o protestant_n who_o convince_v by_o they_o shall_v embrace_v the_o catholic_n to_o the_o second_o by_o show_v the_o motive_n for_o communion_n with_o the_o protestant_a church_n to_o be_v great_a and_o strong_a than_o those_o for_o the_o roman_a and_o therefore_o that_o to_o be_v necessary_o embrace_v before_o this_o it_o be_v agree_v between_o we_o that_o it_o be_v of_o necessity_n to_o salvation_n to_o be_v
he_o say_v be_v very_o well_o know_v to_o the_o author_n of_o the_o caroline_n book_n and_o because_o the_o copy_n of_o the_o nicen_n council_n be_v send_v they_o by_o pope_n adrian_n who_o legate_n also_o preside_v in_o the_o council_n of_o francford_n and_o may_v easy_o rectify_v any_o mistake_n if_o they_o be_v guilty_a of_o it_o beside_o none_o of_o the_o historian_n of_o that_o time_n do_v take_v notice_n of_o any_o such_o error_n and_o the_o second_o canon_n of_o francford_n publish_v by_o sirmondus_n express_o condemn_v the_o council_n of_o nice_a to_o this_o he_o add_v that_o the_o same_o council_n be_v reject_v here_o in_o england_n and_o the_o synod_n of_o paris_n call_v by_o ludovicus_n pius_n condemn_v express_o pope_n adrian_n for_o assert_v a_o superstitious_a adoration_n of_o image_n last_o he_o confirm_v it_o from_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o caroline_n book_n who_o design_n as_o binius_fw-la confess_v be_v against_o all_o worship_n of_o image_n and_o of_o agobardus_n publish_v by_o baluzius_n who_o ingenuous_o say_v he_o confess_v that_o agobardus_n say_v no_o more_o than_o the_o whole_a gallican_n church_n believe_v in_o that_o age._n this_o be_v the_o sum_n and_o force_v of_o his_o argument_n and_o to_o manifest_v the_o insufficiency_n of_o it_o in_o order_n to_o his_o design_n suppose_v the_o matter_n of_o fact_n to_o be_v true_a viz._n that_o the_o council_n of_o francford_n do_v reject_v that_o of_o nice_n which_o divers_a learned_a man_n not_o improbable_o deny_v i_o shall_v show_v first_o that_o de_fw-fr facto_fw-la there_o be_v a_o misunderstanding_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a second_o that_o suppose_v there_o have_v be_v no_o mistake_n but_o that_o the_o synod_n at_o francford_n have_v real_o condemn_v the_o doctrine_n of_o nice_a yet_o have_v it_o be_v no_o advantage_n to_o his_o cause_n §_o 2._o first_o there_o be_v a_o misunderstanding_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a and_o to_o make_v this_o evident_a i_o shall_v need_v no_o more_o than_o to_o compare_v what_o be_v teach_v in_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a with_o what_o be_v condemn_v in_o the_o council_n of_o francford_n what_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a teach_v i_o have_v set_v down_o in_o the_o precedent_a chapter_n viz._n that_o the_o image_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o saint_n be_v to_o be_v place_v and_o retain_v in_o church_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o a_o honorary_a adoration_n or_o respect_n be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o the_o say_a image_n like_v as_o be_v give_v to_o chalice_n and_o to_o the_o book_n of_o the_o h_n gospel_n but_o not_o latria_n which_o as_o true_a faith_n teach_v be_v due_a only_a to_o god_n this_o be_v the_o plain_a and_o open_a definition_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a let_v we_o now_o see_v what_o it_o be_v that_o the_o synod_n of_o francford_n condemn_v allata_fw-la est_fw-la in_o medium_n quaestio_fw-la etc._n etc._n a_o question_n be_v propose_v in_o the_o council_n say_v the_o author_n of_o the_o caroline_n book_n concern_v the_o late_a synod_n of_o the_o greek_n hold_v at_o constantinople_n a_o mistake_n of_o the_o place_n for_o nicaea_n about_o the_o adore_v of_o image_n in_o qua_fw-la scriptum_fw-la habebatur_fw-la in_o which_o there_o be_v write_v that_o those_o shall_v be_v anathematise_v who_o do_v not_o give_v service_n and_o adoration_n to_o image_n of_o the_o saint_n as_o to_o the_o divine_a trinity_n now_o say_v the_o say_a author_n our_o most_o holy_a father_n deny_v by_o all_o mean_v service_n and_o adoration_n do_v both_o contemn_v and_o unanimous_o condemn_v the_o say_a synod_n this_o be_v what_o the_o father_n of_o the_o synod_n at_o francford_n condemn_v as_o it_o stand_v represent_v by_o the_o author_n himself_o of_o the_o carolin_n book_n to_o who_o my_o adversary_n say_v that_o the_o act_n of_o the_o council_n be_v very_o well_o know_v and_o by_o goldastus_n in_o sir_n henry_n spelman_n 307._o who_o cite_v they_o as_o the_o very_a word_n of_o the_o council_n and_o i_o suppose_v by_o sirmondus_n also_o for_o have_v he_o publish_v any_o thing_n else_o the_o doctor_n will_v not_o have_v fail_v to_o let_v we_o know_v it_o and_o now_o i_o appeal_v to_o any_o indifferent_a reader_n whether_o there_o be_v not_o a_o great_a misunderstanding_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a for_o have_v the_o father_n of_o francford_n right_o understand_v that_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a declare_v only_o a_o honorary_a worship_n to_o be_v give_v to_o image_n like_v as_o to_o the_o h._n cross_n and_o to_o the_o book_n of_o h._n scripture_n etc._n etc._n and_o not_o latria_n or_o the_o worship_n due_a only_o to_o god_n they_o can_v never_o have_v condemn_v it_o for_o define_v that_o the_o same_o service_n and_o worship_n be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o image_n as_o to_o the_o divine_a trinity_n and_o therefore_o mr._n thorndike_n ingenuous_o profess_v that_o it_o be_v to_o be_v grant_v that_o whosoever_o it_o be_v that_o write_v the_o book_n against_o image_n under_o the_o name_n of_o charles_n the_o great_a 363._o do_v understand_v the_o council_n to_o enjoin_v the_o worship_n of_o god_n to_o be_v give_v to_o the_o image_n of_o our_o lord_n but_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v that_o it_o be_v a_o mere_a mistake_n and_o that_o the_o council_n acknowledge_v that_o submission_n of_o the_o heart_n which_o the_o excellence_n of_o god_n only_o challenge_v proper_a to_o the_o h._n trinity_n maintain_v a_o signification_n of_o that_o esteem_n to_o be_v pay_v to_o the_o image_n of_o our_o lord_n it_o be_v evident_a then_o there_o be_v a_o grand_a mistake_n and_o to_o omit_v what_o bellarmin_n and_o other_o say_v of_o the_o ocsion_n of_o it_o 3._o petrus_n de_fw-fr marca_n the_o late_a learned_a archbishop_n of_o paris_n very_o probable_o judge_v it_o to_o have_v rise_v from_o the_o word_n of_o constantinus_n bishop_n of_o constantia_n in_o cyprus_n unskilful_o render_v by_o the_o latin_a translator_n for_o as_o he_o well_o observe_v the_o council_n of_o francford_n do_v not_o condemn_v the_o plain_a and_o open_a definition_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a but_o as_o the_o canon_n itself_o of_o francford_n speak_v quod_fw-la scriptum_fw-la habebatur_fw-la for_o that_o there_o be_v find_v write_v in_o the_o act_n of_o that_o council_n that_o the_o worship_n due_a unto_o god_n be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o image_n and_o the_o author_n of_o the_o caroline_n book_n tell_v we_o that_o this_o be_v find_v write_v in_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o aforesaid_a constantinus_n who_o therefore_o he_o condemn_v of_o precipitancy_n and_o folly_n in_o these_o word_n infauste_n &_o praecipitant_a sieve_n insipienter_fw-la constantinus_n constantiae_fw-la cypri_n episcopus_fw-la dixit_fw-la suscipio_fw-la &_o amplector_fw-la honorabiliter_fw-la sanctas_fw-la &_o venerandas_fw-la imagine_v &_o quae_fw-la secundum_fw-la servitium_fw-la adorationis_fw-la quae_fw-la substantiali_fw-la &_o vivificatrici_fw-la trinitati_fw-la emitto_fw-la but_o instead_o of_o precipitancy_n and_o folly_n in_o constantinus_n he_o shall_v have_v lay_v the_o fault_n upon_o the_o ignorance_n of_o the_o translator_n or_o his_o own_o if_o not_o his_o malice_n for_o the_o sense_n in_o greek_a be_v plain_a and_o facile_a to_o be_v this_o suscipio_fw-la &_o honorarie_a amplector_fw-la sanctas_fw-la &_o venerabiles_fw-la imagine_v et_fw-la adorationem_fw-la secundum_fw-la latriam_fw-la soli_fw-la supersubstantiali_fw-la &_o vivificae_fw-la trinitati_fw-la impendo_fw-la i_o receive_v and_o with_o honour_n embrace_v the_o holy_a and_o venerable_a image_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o saint_n but_o for_o adoration_n of_o latria_n i_o give_v it_o only_o to_o the_o supersubstantial_a and_o life-giving_a trinity_n from_o whence_o it_o be_v be_v plain_a how_o ignorant_o or_o malicious_o rather_o it_o be_v say_v by_o calvin_n 16._o that_o the_o same_o constantinus_n profess_v he_o do_v reverent_o embrace_v the_o say_v holy_a image_n cultumque_fw-la honoris_fw-la qui_fw-la vivificae_fw-la trinitati_fw-la debetur_fw-la se_fw-la illis_fw-la exhibiturum_fw-la and_o that_o he_o will_v give_v that_o worship_n to_o they_o which_o be_v due_a to_o the_o holy_a trinity_n when_o what_o he_o profess_v be_v the_o quite_o contrary_a such_o art_n as_o these_o be_v enough_o to_o make_v a_o man_n suspect_v a_o good_a cause_n much_o more_o to_o desert_v a_o bad_a one_o but_o whether_o this_o be_v the_o occasion_n or_o no_o it_o be_v evident_a as_o i_o show_v before_o that_o there_o be_v a_o great_a mistake_n and_o while_o the_o matter_n of_o fact_n be_v evident_a my_o adversary_n labour_v in_o vain_a to_o argue_v from_o conjecture_n that_o it_o be_v not_o possible_a especial_o since_o the_o copy_n of_o the_o act_n of_o the_o nicene_n council_n be_v so_o unskilful_o if_o not_o malicious_o translate_v as_o to_o minister_v matter_n of_o mistake_n and_o though_o the_o pope_n legate_n can_v not_o persuade_v the_o francford_n father_n from_o
in_o these_o 〈◊〉_d whether_o the_o worship_a false_a god_n suppose_v they_o to_o be_v true_a 136._o be_v not_o as_o venial_a a_o fault_n as_o worship_v that_o for_o the_o true_a god_n which_o be_v not_o so_o as_o for_o instance_n suppose_v the_o egyptian_n worship_v the_o sun_n for_o god_n and_o the_o israelite_n the_o golden_a calf_n believe_v it_o be_v the_o true_a god_n etc._n etc._n upon_o what_o account_n say_v he_o shall_v these_o be_v charge_v with_o idolatry_n if_o a_o involuntary_a mistake_n and_o firm_a belief_n that_o they_o worship_v the_o true_a god_n do_v excuse_v from_o it_o and_o then_o add_v that_o the_o most_o stupid_a and_o senseless_a of_o all_o idolater_n who_o worship_v the_o very_a image_n for_o god_n be_v in_o truth_n the_o most_o excusable_a upon_o this_o ground_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o set_v aside_o the_o new_a division_n he_o run_v upon_o the_o old_a false_a ground_n that_o catholic_n believe_v the_o bread_n to_o be_v god_n as_o the_o worshipper_n of_o the_o sun_n believe_v the_o sun_n to_o be_v god_n the_o disparity_n as_o to_o the_o mistake_n be_v still_o the_o same_o because_o the_o egyptian_n believe_v and_o worship_v the_o sun_n for_o god_n and_o so_o do_v the_o israelite_n the_o golden_a calf_n but_o catholic_n though_o suppose_v to_o be_v mistake_v in_o their_o belief_n will_v not_o worship_v the_o bread_n for_o christ_n because_o their_o mistake_n will_v not_o be_v in_o take_v the_o bread_n for_o god_n as_o the_o egyptian_n do_v the_o sun_n but_o in_o this_o that_o they_o conceive_v the_o bread_n not_o to_o be_v there_o at_o all_o but_o in_o place_n thereof_o the_o only_a true_a and_o eternal_a god_n and_o so_o although_o the_o object_n or_o rather_o subject_a material_o their_o present_a will_v in_o such_o a_o case_n be_v bread_n yet_o their_o act_n of_o adoration_n will_v not_o be_v terminate_v formal_o upon_o that_o but_o upon_o god_n for_o as_o dr._n taylor_n say_v if_o they_o think_v he_o not_o present_a they_o be_v so_o far_o from_o worship_v the_o bâ—ead_n in_o this_o case_n that_o themselves_o profess_v it_o to_o be_v idolatry_n to_o do_v so_o which_o be_v a_o demonstration_n that_o their_o soul_n have_v nothing_o in_o it_o which_o be_v idolatrical_a and_o if_o the_o doctor_n see_v not_o the_o force_n of_o this_o demonstration_n for_o demonstration_n be_v very_a dazzle_a object_n to_o eye_n unused_a to_o so_o great_a light_n i_o shall_v lay_v it_o yet_o plain_o before_o he_o in_o this_o syllogism_n whatever_o be_v take_v for_o a_o object_n of_o worship_n the_o understanding_n must_v affirm_v either_o true_o or_o false_o to_o be_v and_o therefore_o neither_o the_o egyptian_n have_v worship_v the_o sun_n for_o god_n nor_o the_o israelite_n the_o calf_n if_o their_o understanding_n have_v not_o first_o affirm_v they_o to_o be_v but_o catholic_n whether_o mistake_v or_o not_o in_o the_o belief_n of_o transubstantiation_n do_v not_o in_o their_o mind_n affirm_v he_o bread_n to_o be_v but_o not_o to_o be_v because_o 〈◊〉_d both_o supposition_n they_o believe_v it_o to_o be_v convert_v into_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n therefore_o the_o object_n of_o their_o worship_n be_v not_o bread_n but_o christ_n the_o only_a true_a and_o eternal_a son_n of_o god_n and_o thereupon_o the_o same_o dr._n taylor_n in_o the_o place_n above_o cite_v numb_a 17._o say_v that_o before_o they_o venture_v to_o pass_v a_o act_n of_o adoration_n they_o believe_v the_o bread_n to_o be_v annihilate_v or_o turn_v into_o his_o substance_n who_o may_v lawful_o be_v worship_v and_o they_o who_o have_v these_o thought_n be_v as_o much_o enemy_n of_o idolatry_n as_o they_o that_o understand_v better_o as_o he_o think_v he_o do_v to_o avoid_v that_o inconvenience_n which_o be_v suppose_v to_o be_v the_o crime_n which_o they_o formal_o hate_v and_o we_o say_v he_o material_o avoid_v when_o therefore_o dr._n st._n upon_o account_n that_o the_o mistake_n and_o firm_a belief_n of_o the_o egyptian_n and_o other_o that_o what_o they_o worship_v be_v the_o true_a god_n can_v not_o excuse_v they_o from_o be_v guilty_a of_o formal_a idolatry_n because_o what_o they_o have_v in_o their_o mind_n and_o purpose_n to_o adore_v be_v that_o very_a creature_n which_o they_o false_o take_v for_o god_n when_o i_o say_v he_o undertake_v to_o infer_v from_o hence_o that_o a_o mistake_n in_o catholic_n as_o to_o the_o material_a object_n present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n whereas_o what_o they_o will_v have_v in_o their_o mind_n and_o purpose_n to_o adore_v will_v be_v no_o other_o thing_n but_o the_o very_a true_a god_n with_o exclusion_n of_o the_o creature_n will_v involve_v they_o also_o in_o the_o same_o crime_n or_o on_o the_o contrary_a because_o such_o a_o mistake_n be_v sufficient_a to_o excuse_v catholic_n from_o the_o guilt_n of_o idolatry_n therefore_o another_o quite_o different_a will_v excuse_v those_o who_o direct_v their_o intention_n to_o the_o worship_n of_o a_o creature_n which_o they_o false_o deem_v to_o be_v god_n both_o these_o consequence_n be_v so_o apparent_o irrational_a that_o nothing_o but_o animosity_n to_o maintain_v perfa_n &_o nefas_fw-la a_o angry_a charge_n of_o idolatry_n can_v extort_v they_o from_o a_o person_n who_o will_v be_v hold_v a_o master_n of_o that_o reason_n as_o none_o but_o rat_n can_v answer_v nevertheless_o in_o virtue_n of_o they_o he_o conclude_v that_o what_o he_o have_v say_v in_o behalf_n of_o the_o heathen_a idolater_n be_v the_o utmost_a can_v be_v say_v for_o the_o papist_n adoration_n of_o the_o host_n suppose_v the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n be_v as_o true_a as_o he_o say_v it_o be_v false_a and_o absurd_a and_o be_v this_o then_o the_o effect_n of_o that_o great_a work_n of_o the_o conversion_n of_o this_o nation_n to_o christianity_n above_o a_o thousand_o year_n ago_o that_o st._n austin_n and_o the_o other_o religious_a monk_n who_o be_v send_v hither_o with_o he_o by_o st._n gregory_n only_o persuade_v the_o people_n to_o leave_v their_o old_a idolatry_n for_o a_o new_a one_o as_o stupid_a and_o senseless_a as_o the_o former_a sure_o no_o christian_a ear_n can_v hear_v this_o without_o horror_n and_o the_o judgement_n mr._n thorndike_n will_v have_v make_v of_o this_o conclusion_n can_v have_v be_v no_o other_o but_o that_o the_o author_n of_o it_o have_v not_o dr._n stillingfleet_n very_o lucky_o put_v his_o name_n to_o the_o book_n must_v have_v be_v a_o jew_n or_o a_o turk_n when_o after_o a_o serious_a consideration_n of_o catholic_n adoration_n of_o the_o host_n he_o conclude_v in_o these_o word_n in_o fine_a 19_o jew_n and_o mahometan_n be_v bind_v to_o take_v the_o worship_n of_o the_o host_n for_o idolatry_n for_o they_o will_v needs_o take_v the_o worship_n of_o the_o holy_a trinity_n for_o no_o less_o but_o they_o who_o know_v that_o the_o godhead_n of_o christ_n be_v the_o reason_n for_o which_o his_o flesh_n and_o blood_n be_v worship_v in_o the_o eucharist_n can_v take_v that_o worship_n for_o idolatry_n because_o his_o flesh_n and_o blood_n be_v not_o present_a in_o the_o eucharist_n as_o they_o who_o worship_v it_o there_o think_v it_o be_v for_o they_o know_v that_o the_o flesh_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v no_o idol_n to_o christian_n wheresoever_o it_o be_v worship_v wherefore_o if_o dr._n st._n have_v no_o better_a argument_n to_o prove_v his_o charge_n of_o idolatry_n with_o in_o this_o matter_n than_o his_o own_o discern_a faculty_n of_o truth_n or_o falsehood_n in_o matter_n propose_v to_o our_o belief_n or_o than_o what_o he_o have_v say_v in_o excuse_n of_o the_o most_o stupid_a and_o senseless_a of_o heathen_a idolater_n who_o patronage_n he_o seem_v to_o have_v undertake_v all_o along_o in_o this_o discourse_n i_o must_v conclude_v his_o reason_n to_o be_v as_o false_a and_o absurd_a as_o any_o jew_n or_o mahometan_a imagine_v the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n to_o be_v the_o end_n of_o the_o second_o part._n the_o three_o part_n of_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n chap._n i._n the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o this_o point_n suppose_v by_o dr._n st._n to_o be_v idolatry_n but_o not_o prove_v the_o disparity_n between_o the_o worship_n give_v by_o catholic_n to_o the_o saint_n and_o that_o of_o heathen_n to_o their_o inferior_a deity_n lay_v open_a §_o 1._o the_o three_o point_n which_o dr._n st._n fix_v upon_o as_o a_o fit_a subject_a to_o show_v his_o wit_n in_o prove_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n be_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o that_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v what_o a_o prodigious_a stock_n of_o that_o faculty_n be_v necessary_a to_o make_v it_o out_o i_o shall_v first_o set_v down_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n as_o it_o stand_v record_v in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n what_o that_o
here_o by_o the_o doctor_n he_o affirm_v 1._o that_o that_o service_n which_o be_v give_v by_o servant_n to_o their_o master_n be_v wont_a to_o be_v call_v by_o another_o name_n in_o greek_a that_o be_v dulia_fw-la but_o this_o the_o reader_n be_v not_o to_o know_v for_o fear_v he_o may_v infer_v that_o if_o some_o degree_n of_o the_o service_n call_v in_o greek_a dulia_n may_v be_v give_v by_o servant_n to_o their_o master_n then_o sure_o a_o high_a degree_n of_o it_o may_v be_v give_v to_o the_o holy_a angel_n §_o 4._o but_o now_o after_o all_o these_o endeavour_n use_v by_o the_o doctor_n to_o hide_v himself_o in_o the_o general_a term_n of_o such_o worship_n religious_a worship_n prayer_n invocation_n etc._n etc._n and_o some_o obscure_a passage_n of_o the_o father_n he_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o know_v very_o well_o and_o i_o pray_v god_n his_o own_o knowledge_n may_v not_o rise_v against_o he_o in_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n by_o what_o art_n all_o these_o testimony_n be_v endeavour_v to_o be_v evade_v or_o rather_o by_o what_o light_n he_o will_v be_v discover_v to_o have_v say_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n viz._n that_o these_o say_n of_o the_o father_n be_v intend_v against_o the_o heathen_n idolatry_n who_o worship_v those_o spirit_n as_o god_n and_o offer_v sacrifice_n to_o they_o but_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n denieâ—_n the_o angel_n and_o saint_n to_o be_v god_n and_o assert_n that_o the_o worship_n by_o sacrifice_n be_v proper_a only_o to_o god_n this_o answer_n be_v indeed_o give_v by_o st._n austin_n very_o often_o and_o other_o of_o the_o father_n and_o there_o need_v no_o other_o to_o the_o testimony_n he_o produce_v if_o all_o who_o read_v his_o book_n know_v as_o much_o as_o himself_o but_o such_o device_n as_o these_o for_o so_o he_o call_v they_o though_o prove_v to_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o father_n out_o of_o the_o very_a place_n cite_v by_o he_o he_o say_v can_v never_o satisfy_v a_o impartial_a mind_n and_o to_o return_v he_o his_o own_o word_n in_o a_o like_a occasion_n i_o must_v tell_v he_o that_o if_o ever_o he_o speak_v home_o to_o our_o case_n he_o must_v do_v it_o upon_o this_o point_n and_o so_o he_o do_v but_o very_o little_a to_o his_o comfort_n as_o i_o shall_v make_v appear_v by_o show_v the_o nullity_n of_o the_o reason_n with_o which_o he_o endeavour_v to_o make_v the_o aforesaid_a answer_n seem_v insufficient_a 1._o the_o first_o be_v because_o the_o father_n he_o say_v p._n 158._o do_v express_o deny_v that_o invocation_n or_o prayer_n be_v to_o be_v make_v to_o the_o angel_n and_o saint_n but_o this_o be_v but_o to_o say_v the_o same_o thing_n over_o again_o or_o to_o equivocate_v as_o mr._n thorndike_n say_v in_o the_o term_n of_o prayer_n and_o invocation_n which_o be_v not_o so_o proper_a to_o god_n but_o that_o in_o despite_n of_o our_o heart_n they_o may_v be_v use_v in_o signify_v request_n make_v also_o to_o men._n 2._o his_o second_o reason_n be_v because_o it_o will_v be_v no_o more_o unlawful_a to_o sacrifice_v to_o saint_n or_o angel_n than_o to_o invocate_v they_o and_o this_o reason_n clear_o destroy_v itself_o because_o it_o suppose_v we_o hold_v it_o unlawful_a to_o sacrifice_v to_o the_o saint_n as_o the_o heathen_n do_v to_o their_o inferior_a deity_n but_o to_o let_v that_o pass_v with_o the_o rest_n if_o he_o take_v the_o word_n invocation_n here_o to_o signify_v the_o prayer_n we_o make_v to_o god_n as_o the_o author_n and_o giver_n of_o all_o good_a i_o grant_v it_o no_o less_o unlawful_a to_o sacrifice_v to_o saint_n and_o angel_n than_o to_o invocate_v they_o for_o what_o catholic_n ever_o teach_v or_o think_v that_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o invocate_v any_o angel_n or_o saint_n upon_o that_o account_n but_o if_o the_o word_n invocation_n on_o the_o one_o side_n as_o in_o despite_n of_o all_o opposition_n it_o may_v be_v and_o by_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n it_o be_v use_v be_v take_v to_o signify_v the_o request_n we_o make_v to_o angel_n and_o saint_n to_o pray_v for_o we_o and_o on_o the_o other_o side_n the_o offering_n of_o sacrifice_n be_v not_o only_o by_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n but_o of_o all_o mankind_n as_o st._n austin_n teach_v appropriate_v to_o signify_v the_o absolute_a worship_n due_a only_o to_o god_n 4._o who_o see_v not_o the_o unlawfulness_n of_o offer_v it_o to_o any_o saint_n or_o angel_n may_v consist_v with_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o desire_v they_o to_o pray_v for_o we_o the_o case_n be_v plain_a in_o just_a man_n upon_o earth_n for_o st._n paul_n and_o barnabas_n accept_v willing_o the_o prayer_n which_o other_o make_v to_o they_o for_o their_o assistance_n but_o utter_o refuse_v to_o admit_v the_o sacrifice_n which_o the_o lycaonian_o act_n 14._o will_v have_v offer_v to_o they_o and_o it_o be_v as_o plain_a of_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n because_o we_o pray_v no_o otherwise_o to_o they_o than_o we_o do_v to_o holy_a man_n upon_o earth_n though_o more_o devout_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o their_o unchangeable_a state_n of_o bliss_n how_o then_o can_v the_o doctor_n parallel_v these_o two_o together_o and_o not_o only_o parallel_v they_o but_o make_v it_o less_o unlawful_a to_o pray_v to_o the_o saint_n than_o to_o offer_v sacrifice_n to_o they_o i_o will_v tell_v you_o catholic_n when_o they_o write_v against_o infidel_n or_o heretic_n make_v use_n of_o the_o answer_n which_o the_o father_n have_v former_o give_v to_o their_o objection_n but_o dr._n st._n be_v to_o oppose_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o the_o point_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n be_v forâ—ed_v to_o maintain_v a_o argument_n of_o the_o heathen_n against_o st._n austin_n nay_o say_v he_o p._n 158._o the_o heathen_n in_o st._n austin_n argue_v very_o well_o that_o sacrifice_n be_v mere_a external_a thing_n 19_o may_v more_o proper_o belong_v to_o the_o inferior_a deity_n but_o the_o more_o invisible_a the_o deity_n be_v the_o more_o invisible_a the_o sacrifice_n be_v to_o be_v and_o the_o great_a and_o better_a the_o deity_n the_o sacrifice_n be_v to_o be_v still_o proportionable_a thus_o the_o doctor_n to_o show_v that_o in_o all_o reason_n the_o duty_n of_o prayer_n ought_v to_o be_v reserve_v as_o more_o proper_a to_o god_n than_o any_o external_n sacrifice_n or_o as_o he_o vary_v the_o phrase_n than_o a_o mere_a outward_a sacrifice_n and_o consequent_o that_o prayer_n be_v less_o communicable_a to_o a_o saint_n than_o sacrifice_n but_o do_v you_o not_o think_v the_o doctor_n use_v the_o utmost_a of_o his_o confidence_n here_o to_o own_o and_o maintain_v for_o good_a nay_o very_a good_a a_o argument_n of_o the_o heathen_n confute_v by_o st._n austin_n in_o that_o very_a place_n the_o heathen_a say_v dr._n st._n argue_v very_o well_o i_o deny_v it_o say_v st._n austin_n because_o in_o so_o argue_v they_o manifest_v that_o they_o do_v not_o know_v nesciunt_fw-la that_o visible_a sacrifice_n be_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o invisible_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o mind_n like_v as_o the_o word_n we_o speak_v be_v the_o sign_n of_o thing_n for_o as_o when_o we_o pray_v or_o praise_n we_o direct_v the_o word_n to_o he_o to_o who_o we_o offer_v in_o our_o heart_n the_o thing_n themselves_o which_o we_o signify_v by_o they_o so_o when_o we_o sacrifice_v we_o know_v that_o the_o visible_a sacrifice_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v to_o no_o other_o but_o to_o he_o who_o invisible_a sacrifice_n we_o ourselves_o ought_v to_o be_v in_o our_o heart_n and_o upon_o this_o account_n he_o add_v a_o little_a below_o it_o be_v and_o no_o other_o that_o the_o devil_n require_v sacrifice_v to_o be_v offer_v to_o they_o because_o they_o know_v it_o to_o be_v due_a to_o god_n alone_o endeavour_v by_o that_o mean_n to_o hinder_v access_n to_o the_o true_a god_n that_o man_n may_v not_o be_v his_o sacrifice_n whilst_o sacrifice_n be_v offer_v to_o any_o but_o to_o he_o thus_o st._n austin_n in_o answer_n to_o the_o heathen_n objection_n and_o the_o doctor_n be_v by_o which_o it_o appear_v one_a that_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o st._n austin_n external_a sacrifice_n be_v the_o high_a expression_n of_o the_o high_a part_n of_o prayer_n which_o be_v the_o devote_v and_o sacrifice_v ourselves_o in_o our_o heart_n to_o god_n it_o ought_v of_o all_o other_o to_o be_v reserve_v as_o most_o proper_a and_o acceptable_a to_o he_o and_o that_o religion_n which_o admit_v no_o external_a visible_a sacrifice_n must_v needs_o be_v deficient_a in_o the_o most_o signal_n part_v of_o the_o public_a worship_n of_o god_n two_o that_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o same_o st._n austin_n the_o doctor_n if_o he_o speak_v as_o he_o think_v know_v no_o more_o than_o the_o heathen_n do_v what_o the_o
as_o he_o be_v affect_v and_o nothing_o more_o subject_a to_o different_a construction_n than_o word_n they_o be_v like_o those_o picture_n which_o represent_v a_o man_n to_o one_o that_o stand_v on_o the_o right_a hand_n and_o a_o beast_n to_o another_o who_o stand_v on_o the_o left_a or_o like_o the_o pillar_n of_o cloud_n which_o give_v light_n to_o the_o israelite_n but_o be_v darkness_n to_o the_o egyptian_n for_o example_n those_o word_n of_o christ_n to_o his_o apostle_n you_o be_v the_o light_n of_o the_o world_n if_o you_o set_v a_o jew_n on_o the_o one_o side_n and_o dr._n st._n on_o the_o other_o the_o jew_n who_o own_v christ_n for_o no_o other_o than_o a_o seducer_n will_v call_v they_o blasphemous_a but_o the_o doctor_n i_o hope_v will_v not_o do_v so_o although_o christ_n say_v of_o himself_o that_o he_o be_v the_o light_n of_o the_o world_n and_o the_o only_a reason_n he_o can_v give_v be_v because_o though_o the_o word_n be_v the_o same_o yet_o the_o sense_n in_o which_o they_o be_v apply_v to_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n be_v very_o different_a and_o possible_o those_o high_a strain_n of_o prayer_n to_o god_n which_o he_o say_v be_v apply_v in_o that_o psalter_n to_o the_o b._n virgin_n may_v if_o examine_v be_v find_v not_o chargeable_a with_o blasphemy_n on_o the_o like_a account_n for_o if_o it_o be_v not_o the_o dead_a word_n but_o the_o intention_n of_o the_o speaker_n that_o animate_v they_o which_o make_v they_o to_o be_v prayer_n otherwise_o a_o parrot_n which_o shall_v be_v teach_v to_o say_v help_v i_o god_n will_v pray_v as_o well_o as_o a_o christian_a it_o follow_v that_o as_o the_o intention_n of_o the_o speaker_n be_v different_a so_o will_v the_o prayer_n be_v also_o that_o be_v the_o same_o word_n speak_v to_o god_n will_v have_v respect_n to_o he_o as_o who_o alone_o can_v give_v what_o we_o desire_v but_o apply_v to_o the_o b._n virgin_n will_v signify_v only_o that_o we_o desire_v her_o prayer_n to_o obtain_v for_o we_o of_o god_n what_o we_o believe_v that_o he_o alone_o can_v give_v and_o consequent_o no_o strain_n of_o prayer_n proper_o so_o call_v which_o be_v make_v to_o god_n will_v be_v apply_v to_o the_o b._n virgin_n §_o 5._o but_o now_o the_o doctor_n will_v be_v so_o just_a as_o not_o to_o insist_v upon_o the_o ancient_a breviaries_n or_o obsolete_a form_n or_o private_a devotion_n among_o which_o sure_o the_o psalter_n he_o speak_v of_o may_v be_v rank_v there_o be_v blasphemy_n and_o idolatry_n enough_o he_o think_v in_o the_o present_a roman_a breviary_n to_o serve_v his_o turn_n the_o first_o instance_n he_o give_v be_v that_o of_o the_o antiphon_n hail_o b._n virgin_n thou_o alone_o have_v destroy_v all_o the_o heresy_n in_o the_o world_n and_o lest_o this_o shall_v be_v interpret_v of_o do_v it_o by_o her_o son_n as_o the_o church_n do_v when_o she_o present_o add_v dum_fw-la virgo_fw-la deum_fw-la &_o hominem_fw-la genuisti_fw-la that_o be_v purif_n by_o bring_v he_o into_o the_o world_n who_o be_v both_o god_n and_o man_n a_o formal_a invocation_n of_o she_o he_o say_v follow_v give_v i_o strength_n against_o thy_o enemy_n to_o which_o he_o add_v those_o ejaculation_n in_o the_o hymn_n ave_fw-la maris_fw-la stella_fw-la wherein_o she_o be_v entreat_v to_o loose_v the_o bond_n of_o the_o guilty_a to_o give_v light_n to_o the_o blind_a and_o drive_v away_o our_o evil_n but_o he_o leave_v out_o and_o to_o beg_v for_o we_o all_o good_a thing_n and_o to_o show_v herself_o to_o be_v a_o mother_n or_o as_o it_o be_v say_v he_o in_o the_o masse-book_n at_o paris_n 1634._o jure_fw-la matris_fw-la impera_fw-la redemptori_fw-la as_o thou_o be_v a_o mother_n command_v the_o redeemer_n but_o then_o again_o lest_o the_o hymn_n shall_v be_v think_v only_o poetical_a he_o say_v that_o in_o the_o feast_n of_o s._n maria_n ad_fw-la nives_fw-la a_o formal_a prayer_n be_v make_v to_o she_o to_o help_v the_o miserable_a to_o strengthen_v the_o weak_a to_o comfort_v those_o that_o mourn_v where_o again_o he_o leave_v out_o pray_v for_o the_o people_n intercede_v for_o the_o clergy_n etc._n etc._n and_o the_o like_a form_n he_o say_v be_v use_v to_o st._n michael_n and_o the_o angel_n guardian_n and_o to_o the_o apostle_n and_o now_o say_v he_o be_v all_o this_o only_o pray_v to_o the_o saint_n to_o pray_v for_o we_o yes_o sure_o if_o it_o be_v the_o sense_n which_o make_v the_o word_n to_o be_v prayer_n as_o i_o show_v above_o and_o not_o the_o bare_a character_n or_o letter_n and_o that_o the_o church_n sense_n be_v no_o other_o but_o to_o desire_v they_o to_o obtain_v for_o we_o of_o god_n the_o blessing_n express_v in_o those_o form_n viz._n help_v comfort_n light_n etc._n etc._n be_v manifest_a both_o from_o her_o frequent_a intermix_v that_o usual_a form_n of_o pray_v for_o we_o which_o the_o doctor_n convenient_o leave_v out_o and_o from_o her_o public_a doctrine_n as_o set_v down_o in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n and_o inculcate_v to_o all_o the_o faithful_a in_o their_o catechism_n but_o what_o can_v be_v say_v to_o those_o word_n in_o the_o mass-book_n at_o paris_n 1634._o jure_fw-la matris_fw-la impera_fw-la redemptori_fw-la as_o thou_o be_v a_o mother_n command_v thy_o son_n i_o answer_v 1._o that_o those_o word_n show_v thyself_o to_o be_v a_o mother_n to_o which_o the_o doctor_n make_v these_o other_o of_o the_o mass-book_n at_o paris_n correspond_v be_v not_o find_v in_o any_o mass-book_n at_o all_o that_o i_o can_v hear_v of_o nor_o do_v the_o word_n cite_v by_o the_o doctor_n agree_v in_o their_o number_n and_o measure_n with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o verse_n of_o that_o hymn_n and_o consequent_o i_o have_v some_o reason_n to_o believe_v he_o mistake_v at_o least_o in_o cite_v that_o mass-book_n but_o two_o suppose_v the_o word_n as_o cite_v by_o the_o doctor_n to_o be_v find_v in_o that_o mass-book_n i_o confess_v they_o express_v a_o vehemency_n of_o spirit_n not_o unsuitable_a to_o the_o brisk_a and_o sudden_a effort_n propet_v to_o that_o nation_n but_o yet_o they_o be_v such_o as_o may_v admit_v of_o a_o fair_a construction_n if_o they_o meet_v with_o a_o reader_n who_o be_v not_o obstinate_o bend_v to_o be_v wayward_a there_o be_v even_o in_o scripture_n some_o expression_n which_o seem_v to_o carry_v with_o they_o as_o great_a a_o excess_n as_o this_o 14._o for_o example_n when_o it_o be_v say_v that_o josue_n speak_v to_o our_o lord_n and_o the_o sun_n stand_v still_o god_n obey_v the_o voice_n of_o a_o man_n and_o when_o our_o saviour_n say_v of_o himself_o that_o in_o heaven_n he_o will_v make_v his_o servant_n to_o sit_v down_o to_o meat_n 37._o and_o will_v serve_v they_o now_o as_o the_o former_a of_o these_o expression_n do_v not_o signify_v a_o real_a obedience_n in_o god_n to_o the_o voice_n of_o man_n but_o his_o readiness_n to_o do_v the_o will_n of_o those_o that_o fear_v he_o nor_o the_o latter_a that_o christ_n will_v real_o serve_v the_o elect_a at_o table_n but_o only_o signify_v the_o great_a care_n he_o will_v take_v that_o nothing_o shall_v be_v want_v to_o the_o compliment_n of_o their_o joy_n and_o satisfaction_n â—o_o also_o the_o word_n object_v by_o the_o doctor_n aâ—_n thou_o be_v a_o mother_n command_v the_o redâ—emâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d not_o signify_v that_o she_o shall_v real_o command_v he_o as_o she_o do_v when_o he_o be_v subject_a to_o she_o upon_o earth_n but_o that_o she_o will_v use_v that_o grace_n and_o favour_n on_o our_o behalf_n which_o she_o have_v with_o he_o as_o a_o mother_n above_o all_o other_o saint_n and_o this_o be_v understand_v to_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n all_o that_o the_o doctor_n can_v say_v be_v that_o the_o author_n be_v too_o hyperbolical_a in_o the_o manner_n of_o his_o expression_n and_o in_o this_o i_o dare_v affirm_v he_o will_v find_v very_o few_o catholic_n dissent_v from_o he_o nay_o more_o i_o have_v reason_n to_o believe_v that_o the_o parisian_a missal_n of_o 1634._o if_o there_o be_v any_o such_o word_n in_o it_o have_v be_v since_o correct_v otherwise_o my_o adversary_n will_v doubtless_o have_v cite_v the_o mass-book_n of_o 1670._o and_o not_o of_o 1634._o and_o then_o the_o word_n he_o object_n aught_o to_o have_v be_v cast_v among_o the_o obsolete_a form_n which_o he_o say_v before_o he_o shall_v not_o insist_v upon_o §_o 6._o but_o now_o again_o if_o we_o use_v the_o same_o form_n of_o word_n to_o the_o b._n virgin_n and_o other_o saint_n as_o we_o do_v to_o god_n as_o when_o we_o desire_v she_o to_o strengthen_v the_o weak_a to_o give_v light_n to_o the_o blind_a etc._n etc._n from_o whence_o say_v the_o doctor_n must_v the_o people_n take_v the_o sense_n of_o these_o prayer_n if_o not_o from_o the_o
signification_n of_o the_o word_n i_o answer_v not_o mere_o from_o lilly_n grammar_n rule_v but_o from_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n deliver_v in_o her_o council_n and_o catechism_n and_o from_o the_o common_a use_n of_o such_o word_n and_o expression_n among_o christian_n if_o a_o child_n be_v teach_v by_o his_o parent_n that_o god_n alone_o can_v give_v what_o we_o ask_v when_o he_o say_v to_o his_o father_n bless_v i_o understand_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o word_n to_o be_v that_o his_o father_n shall_v pray_v to_o god_n to_o bless_v he_o then_o sure_o much_o more_o must_v catholic_n people_n when_o they_o pray_v to_o the_o b._n virgin_n to_o drive_v away_o all_o evil_n understand_v the_o sense_n to_o be_v that_o she_o will_v pray_v to_o god_n to_o deliver_v they_o from_o all_o evil_a there_o be_v beside_o the_o common_a doctrine_n of_o christianity_n by_o which_o they_o be_v teach_v that_o god_n alone_o be_v the_o giver_n of_o all_o good_a thing_n so_o many_o sermon_n catechism_n and_o explication_n both_o by_o word_n and_o write_v daily_o make_v in_o the_o catholic_n church_n by_o priest_n to_o the_o people_n and_o parent_n to_o their_o child_n in_o this_o particular_a point_n well_o but_o if_o this_o be_v all_o say_v the_o doctor_n why_o in_o all_o this_o time_n that_o those_o prayer_n have_v be_v complain_v of_o viz._n by_o those_o who_o have_v revolt_v from_o the_o church_n have_v not_o their_o sense_n be_v better_o express_v why_o have_v they_o not_o be_v expunge_v all_o this_o while_n after_o that_o their_o breviaries_n have_v be_v so_o often_o review_v this_o i_o fear_v if_o do_v will_v not_o be_v enough_o to_o keep_v they_o from_o tell_v we_o once_o upon_o a_o time_n there_o be_v a_o blasphemous_a book_n or_o in_o the_o mass-book_n print_v at_o paris_n in_o such_o a_o year_n there_o be_v but_o why_o to_o comply_v with_o the_o humour_n of_o a_o few_o opiniator_n who_o no_o reason_n can_v satisfy_v must_v mankind_n be_v debar_v the_o natural_a manner_n of_o express_v their_o affection_n and_o why_o have_v not_o those_o scrupulous_a personâ—_n all_o this_o while_n devise_v a_o dictionary_n or_o phrase-book_n to_o furnish_v we_o with_o word_n and_o form_n of_o speak_v which_o may_v equal_v our_o conception_n and_o express_v every_o little_a variation_n of_o our_o thought_n and_o all_o the_o different_a temper_n and_o emotion_n of_o the_o spirit_n do_v we_o not_o do_v the_o same_o action_n sometime_o more_o quick_a and_o smart_o than_o at_o other_o why_o then_o must_v we_o be_v tie_v to_o use_v always_o the_o same_o form_n of_o word_n why_o may_v we_o not_o sometime_o utter_v the_o same_o affection_n in_o a_o more_o fervent_a manner_n of_o expression_n than_o at_o other_o he_o that_o see_v himself_o in_o a_o imminent_a danger_n make_v no_o long_a preamble_n but_o cry_v out_o help_v i_o and_o st._n gregory_n nazianzen_n record_v it_o as_o a_o act_n of_o great_a devotion_n in_o st._n justina_n ferat_fw-la that_o to_o free_v herself_o from_o the_o snare_n of_o satan_n she_o call_v upon_o the_o virgin_n mary_n to_o help_v and_o succour_v she_o but_o the_o doctor_n have_v now_o find_v a_o staff_n to_o beat_v bellarmin_n with_o for_o offer_v to_o instance_n in_o scripture_n that_o the_o apostle_n be_v say_v to_o save_v man_n viz._n by_o their_o prayer_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o in_o the_o like_a sense_n we_o may_v desire_v they_o to_o save_v we_o and_o he_o lay_v on_o so_o hard_a 22._o that_o he_o have_v beat_v all_o the_o brain_n out_o of_o the_o cardinal_n head_n at_o a_o blow_n for_o will_v any_o man_n say_v he_o in_o his_o wit_n say_v the_o case_n be_v the_o same_o in_o ordinary_a speech_n and_o in_o prayer_n be_v it_o all_o one_o say_v he_o for_o a_o man_n to_o say_v that_o his_o staff_n help_v he_o in_o his_o go_n and_o to_o fall_v down_o upon_o his_o knee_n and_o pray_v to_o his_o staff_n to_o help_v he_o and_o now_o i_o pray_v who_o so_o proper_a a_o man_n to_o confute_v bellarmin_n as_o dr._n st._n bellarmin_n speak_v of_o such_o instrument_n as_o have_v both_o understanding_n and_o will_n to_o help_v we_o to_o heaven_n by_o their_o prayer_n and_o he_o present_o let_v drive_v at_o he_o with_o his_o staff_n for_o speak_v nonsense_n let_v the_o reader_n judge_n whether_o the_o instrument_n be_v more_o irrational_a or_o the_o use_v he_o make_v of_o it_o i_o have_v long_o since_o observe_v that_o whenever_o he_o make_v other_o man_n out_o of_o their_o wit_n the_o reader_n have_v reason_n to_o suspect_v all_o be_v not_o right_a at_o home_n but_o st._n paul_n doubtless_o be_v a_o rational_a instrument_n and_o what_o will_v he_o have_v say_v say_v the_o doctor_n to_o one_o who_o shall_v say_v to_o he_o i_o pray_v you_o pardon_v my_o sin_n and_o assist_v i_o with_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n i_o believe_v he_o will_v neither_o have_v condemn_v he_o of_o gross_a idolatry_n nor_o prodigious_a folly_n as_o the_o doctor_n do_v but_o consider_v the_o bitterness_n of_o his_o soul_n by_o the_o eagerness_n of_o his_o expression_n will_v have_v give_v he_o the_o assistance_n of_o his_o prayer_n to_o obtain_v what_o he_o aim_v to_o procure_v by_o his_o mean_n of_o god_n §_o 7._o have_v thus_o clear_v the_o fence_n of_o those_o form_n of_o prayer_n we_o sometime_o use_v to_o the_o b._n virgin_n and_o other_o saint_n to_o be_v no_o other_o than_o pray_v to_o they_o to_o pray_v to_o god_n for_o we_o as_o i_o assert_v in_o my_o reply_n and_o answer_v the_o little_a exception_n the_o doctor_n make_v against_o it_o i_o shall_v conclude_v this_o point_n with_o some_o instance_n of_o like_a expression_n either_o use_v or_o approve_v by_o the_o father_n of_o the_o primitive_a time_n and_o first_o for_o the_o usual_a form_n of_o holy_a mary_n or_o holy_a peter_n pray_v for_o we_o the_o instance_n be_v so_o numerous_a that_o to_o transcribe_v they_o will_v make_v a_o volume_n many_o of_o the_o father_n be_v tax_v for_o this_o practice_n by_o the_o magdeburgenses_n and_o other_o protestant_a writer_n and_o for_o this_o sort_n of_o invocation_n 358._o mr._n thorndike_n say_v it_o be_v confess_v that_o the_o light_n both_o of_o the_o greek_a and_o latin_a church_n basil_n nazianzen_n nyssen_n ambrose_n hierome_n austin_n chrysostom_n cyril_n both_o theodoret_n fulgentius_n st._n gregory_n the_o great_a leo_n more_o or_o rather_o all_o after_o that_o time_n have_v speak_v to_o the_o saint_n and_o desire_v their_o assistance_n nay_o the_o doctor_n himself_o though_o diminute_a in_o his_o confession_n acknowledge_v there_o be_v some_o instance_n of_o they_o in_o good_a author_n although_o he_o will_v needs_o have_v they_o to_o be_v but_o rhetorical_a apostrophe_n and_o poetical_a flourish_v or_o wish_n that_o the_o saint_n will_v pray_v for_o we_o as_o we_o englishman_n when_o we_o be_v at_o play_n say_v mr._n perkins_n and_o i_o wonder_v so_o pat_o a_o example_n can_v escape_v the_o doctor_n call_v upon_o the_o bowl_n to_o rub_v 91._o or_o to_o run_v as_o we_o will_v have_v they_o at_o this_o sport_n he_o fancy_n st._n hierome_n to_o have_v be_v when_o he_o cry_v to_o paul_n after_o her_o death_n help_v i_o o_o paul_n in_o my_o old_a age_n with_o thy_o prayer_n and_o so_o no_o doubt_n be_v the_o emperor_n theodosius_n too_o when_o as_o ruffinus_n report_v hist_o eccl._n l._n 2._o c._n 33._o he_o go_v to_o visit_v the_o sepulcher_n of_o the_o martyr_n accompany_v with_o all_o the_o clergy_n and_o people_n it_o be_v it_o seem_v a_o general_n day_n of_o bowling_n and_o prostrate_v before_o their_o ash_n you_o may_v imagine_v to_o take_v sure_a aim_n implore_v aid_n by_o their_o intercession_n or_o as_o st._n chrysost_o have_v it_o in_o the_o same_o or_o a_o like_a occasion_n ho._n 26._o in_o 2_o cor._n beseech_v the_o saint_n to_o be_v his_o patron_n and_o advocate_n with_o god._n and_o the_o doctor_n himself_o bring_v in_o saint_n austin_n as_o play_v at_o the_o same_o game_n when_o he_o say_v p._n 173._o that_o he_o wish_v rather_o than_o praise_v that_o st._n cyprian_a will_v help_v he_o with_o his_o prayer_n confess_v also_o as_o i_o say_v before_o that_o there_o be_v some_o instance_n of_o this_o pleasant_a kind_n of_o invocation_n to_o be_v find_v in_o good_a author_n the_o difficulty_n than_o lie_v in_o those_o prayer_n which_o we_o make_v to_o saint_n to_o help_v our_o necessity_n but_o of_o these_o also_o there_o want_v not_o instance_n in_o the_o write_n of_o good_a author_n of_o the_o primitive_a time_n parallel_n to_o those_o which_o the_o doctor_n object_n out_o of_o the_o present_a roman_a breviary_n and_o office_n of_o our_o lady_n do_v we_o say_v there_o hail_o b._n virgin_n thou_o alone_o have_v destroy_v all_o heresy_n in_o the_o world_n vouchsafe_v holy_a virgin_n to_o