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A89922 The Christian and Catholike veritie; or, The reasons and manner of the conversion of Francis de Neville; formerly a Capuchin, preacher, the Popes missionary, and superiour in sundry covents of the same order. A treatise very usefull for all Christians, and especially for such as are popishly affected, or not fully setled in their beliefe; and for the further confirmation of the faithfull. Wherein many secrets of the Romish clergy, heretofore unrevealed, are discovered. Dedicated by the author to the high court of Parliament now assembled, 1642. See the contents at the next page. Neville, Francis de.; England and Wales. Parliament. 1642 (1642) Wing N502; Thomason E144_15; ESTC R11352 153,461 187

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when the Emperours were far distant and taken up in other places with warres and troubles and had neither meanes nor power to oppose or contradict that Election And when they did oppose themselves it had often divers successes and occasioned many sad Histories and lamentable Tragedies But in the end the power and riches of the Emperour diminishing by their dissolute life and the revolting of Princes their subjects and the Church of Rome growing continually in riches and wealth through the too simple devotion and liberalitie of many Princes the whole power of the Election of the Pope came to the Cardinalls who in the beginning were the chiefest and richest among the Clergy of the Citie of Rome and now are chosen out of divers Nations but more of Italy than of all the rest of the world together all of them bearing title of some Church in the Citie of Rome and by them alone at this present is the Pope chosen but with all the corruptions and abominations which can be imagined in the Election of a Potentate For when it is in question to make a new Pope there is no passion that is not set on worke there is no indirect means left unassayed no symony that is not committed The Pope being dead all is in disorder and confusion in the Citie of Rome every vice and crime is committed there without punishment or inquiry all revenge practised the Officers made by the defunct Pope having no more power there is sixteene or seventeene dayes allotted to the Cardinalls to conveene and enter into the Conclave which is a place furnished with Chambers and little roomes fitted for the Election Those who pretend to be Pope make commonly many faire promises to obtaine the voices of the Electors to some they promise their Pallaces to others Offices and Benefices to some the advancement of their kindred in a word all they can imagine profitable to themselves The Cardinalls Nephewes of the defunct Popes as the richest and most potent of the Romish Church being inriched and made great by the favour and power of their Unkles have each of them their factions and Caballs apart composed of those who are ingaged to them by benefits and curtesies received and pretended or in favour of the Cardinalls cap or some other gratifications given them by the Popes their Unkles not speaking of their alliances and other considerations of neernesse they have among them After that is the faction of Princes of the Emperour the King of France Spaine and Poland of the Princes and Reipublicks of Italy who by their Embassadours and Pentioners labour all of them to have a Pope that favoureth the greatnesse of their estates Last of all is the Faction which they call of spiritualls which are they that endeavour to choose for Pope him whom according to their conscience they thinke most proper and fit and whom they beleeve will be most profitable for the Church But this number is commonly very small and in the Election of Pope Vrban the eighth who at this present holdeth the chaire of the Bishop of Rome of fifty-three Cardinalls who were present in the Conclave for the Election a Gentleman of the Romish Church at that time residing at Rome who hath faithfully written the History which is publikely to be seen in the Booke of the Empires and States of the world saith that there were but three in all of the spirituall faction which aymed onely at the Election of the best without considering the Intrest of France or Spaine or any particular benefit or utilitie And also after the same or a worse manner have all the modern Elections been which I have read as yee may see more amply in the Books that are written thereof so common in the world as they need not be specified by me Now as the faction of those good and spirituall men who ayme onely to choose the best and most proper is questionlesse ever the least and weakest and as the worldly factions are ever the greatest and strongest it is needlesse to aske what doth ordinarily follow and it is a marvell if a good and impartiall and not factious be chosen for Pope I speak even according to the beliefe of the Romish Church They speak indeed a little of the holy Spirit and invoke his assistance but that is onely with their lips and for ceremony the holy Spirit shunning such corrupt company that is so little disposed to receive his motions thence cometh it that they are sometimes moneths yeares yea ten twenty thirty or forty yeares they cannot nor will not agree and some of them make one Pope others another this Pope creating his Cardinalls and Bishops and the other his with what disorder and scandall to all Christians I leave you to judge the Earth oftentimes bleeding at their execrations And I may truely say that almost all the Popes are created by symony for all the Princes well knowing by many experiences that the Election of the Popes is seldome according to the lawes of conscience but by corruption and favour they are obliged to entertaine expresly for that end Pentioners amongst the Cardinalls to whom they give yearly Pensions or some fat Benefices of their disposition and so buy their voyces that at the Election they may have a Pope of their faction The rich and powerfull Cardinalls who are commonly the Nephewes of the defunct practise the same with those who are poore labouring to gaine and possesse their Suffrages either by benefits received or hope to receive not indeed to be Popes because their families would become too great and eat up others but to reigne under the name of some other whom they caused to be elected The Cardinalls who pretend to be Pope spare nothing commonly to captivate to themselves voyces and friends and because oftentimes they be not very rich they are content to promise more than they have a minde to performe yea more than they are able So by all those fashions which are most common and ordinary there is almost not one who is not chosen by symony and consequently who entreth not in the Sheepfold not as a good Pastour by the doore but as a ravenous Wolfe breaking the wall to feed and fill himselfe with the bloud and substance of the Sheepe and not to feed them with the nourishment and food of life And because they use before the Election to reade some Bulls which thunder out the most fearfull excommunications and anathema's is possible against all those who proceed to this election by direct or indirect symony or any other crooked or unlawfull courses declaring them unfit and uncapable of any Ecclesiasticall Office or Benefice there are almost none of those elected who are not anathamatized with most terrible excommunications and by those Bulls made uncapable to keep the Office so that even thereby their election is voide and their possession of no force and unjust and all exercise of their power invalid but are even irregular so often as
Church which are almost without number And mark that in all ages this hath been the malice of hereticks to have recourse to Traditions when the Scriptures faile them Tertull. de Monog cap. 2. Joh. 16.12 Bellarm. lib. 5. de verbo Dei so Tertullian being become hereticall in his Booke de Monogania cap. 2. maintaineth the heresie of Montanus by those words of our Saviour I have yet many things to say unto you but yee cannot beare them now Which is the passage Bellarmine citeth for Traditions cap. 5. of his Book of the unwritten Word and yet it appeareth by the following verse that our Saviour by those things which they cannot for the present beare meant the things which are to come as the prophesies concerning the things which were to fall out which are to be seen in the Epistles of the Apostles and in the Revelation of St John and such like things and not any doctrines of faith Irenaeus in the second chap. of his third Book saith Irenaeus cap. 2. lib. 3. that when any did convince the hereticks with Scripture they began to accuse the Scripture saying that the truth could not be found in the Scripture by those who knew not the Tradition because it was not given in writing but onely spoken verbally Now this is practised by the Romish Church more than by any sect that hath ever yet been because seeing Scripture doth faile her to maintaine her tyranny and innumerable superstitious policies she hath invented a word not written which shee calleth Traditions equalling their authoritie with the holy Scriptures and those Traditions are invented and augmented from time to time according to the will and fancy of the Popes for some of them have invented the Masse and some other ceremonies and one or other of them have now and then added to them or taken from augmented or diminished the same some of them have invented Purgatory others Indulgences some the invocation of Saints others the reliques some the Communion under one kinde and yet to this day their number is not perfect neither is it yet known to the Romish Church that which our Saviour preached as necessary to faith and salvation for as there were new Articles of faith made in the Councell of Trent which was the last generall Councell amongst them as that of justification and originall sin so doe they hope to make yet more in the next Councell as it may be of the conception of the Virgin Mary of predestination with or without merits or some others Here is another objection those of the Romish Church thinke to be of great force and which I my selfe have often used disputing against those of the Romish Religion pretending thereby to prove the necessitie of Traditions and to referre our selves to the Church for say they who gave you the holy Scripture but the Tradition and whence know yee the Canonicall Books from those that are not Canonicall but by the determination and tradition of the Church It is true that every particular man receiveth the holy Scripture from the Church he liveth in whether it be a pure or impure Church so the Apostles had received from the Priests and Scribes enemies of Jesus Christ the books of the old Testament but in that the Church doth onely the office of a Witnesse and not of a Judge it onely witnesseth that those Books are holy and Canonicall but it judgeth not them to be holy nor giveth them any authoritie and the Tradition of the Church witnessing those books to be divine and holy is onely a protestation of her subjection to the Scripture and not an usurpation of her authoritie above the written word of God He who sheweth the King to a stranger is not therefore above the King nor giveth he any authoritie to the King and a Book-seller shewing to a buyer the Book of the Statutes of the Kingdome doth not for that authorise those Statutes and some man may receive the holy Scriptures from the Church and afterwards use it to condemne the same Church And as the testimony of innumerable eyes and eares seeing the lightnings and hearing the thunder maketh us say that it thundreth and lightneth so the testimony of innumerable Churches assuring us that the holy Scriptures are from God cause us to give an assent to them as divine Where it is to be noted that as for the Books of the New Testament wee ought to take the testimony of the Churches under the New Testament so for the Books of the old Testament we ought to follow the judgement of the Churches of those times and refer our selves to their testimony without making them for that Judges of the controversie Nor doth it appertaine to him who is to be judged by the holy Scripture and the word of God to make himselfe Judge of that word of God so it is a great impertinency to inferre from this objection the necessitie of Traditions to be of the same vertue with the pure word of God CHAP. VI. Traditions condemned by the holy Scriptures VVE have seen the testimonies of the holy Scripture and the reasons they of the Romish Church bring to establish the doctrine of Traditions Now let us see the testimonies of the same Scripture which the Orthodox and reformed Church alledge to condemne those Traditions and consider which of them are of greatest strength As for mee having maturely considered the passages I cannot see how their force can be eluded or rather that men yeeld not to their cleernesse The Prophet Moses saith to the people of God Deut. 12.13 Deut. 12.13 Yee shall doe that which I command you before the Lord neither adding nor diminishing there from and more cleerly in Chap. 12. Yee shall adde nothing to the word which I command you nor take nothing from it and Salomon in his Proverbs saith Pro. 30.6 Adde thou nothing unto his word least he reprove thee and thou be found a lyar Which being not deniable but that it is said of the Church what doth the Scripture thereby but condemne most cleerly the Traditions which are questionlesse new inventions added to the holy Scripture For my part after I began to consider attentively the words of the Apostle St Paul on this subject I could never see how those of the Romish Church can maintaine the doctrine of their Traditions as pertaining to faith and equall in authoritie to the holy Scriptures Gal. 1.8 Mark I pray you with me those words Gal. 1.8 If we our selves or any Angel from heaven preach to you any other Gospel than that which hath been preached unto you let him be accursed Note these words Let him be accursed which are of no small importance and observe the word besides Praeterquam quod is in the vulgar translation of St Jerome which is more fully expressed by the word besides than by the word otherwise as it is in some corrupted impressions and above all note that he saith not against but besides Praeterquam
excommunicated by his Patriarch or Metropolitan or by any Councell either justly or unjustly he went presently to Rome addressing himselfe to the Bishop as the richest of them all to assist him and the most powerfull and of greatest authoritie to protect him against his adversaries and as necessitie and extremitie passe often all the limits of truth many amongst them to captivate his good will and favour strove to give him as great titles as their industry could suggest and although they who gave them and they to whom they were given knew sufficiently that it was wrongfully and without reason or the Word of God neverthelesse the extremitie and necessitie of the one made them submit even in that point depriving themselves of somethings which justly belonged to them to give them to the Bishop from whom they expected assistance and the vanitie which did creep in and diffuse it selfe in the hearts made many Popes receive those titles without contradiction at least apparant or opposition that was capable to hinder the progresse In Sylvester his time indeed it did cleerly appeare that the greatnesse and authoritie of the Bishop of Rome did grow and increase mightily Neverthelesse the title of general Pastour or universall head of Bishops or Vicar of Christ Jesus on earth was not yet in use nor was it given or usurped by any and the first Bishop of Rome in whose time the title of universall Bishop began to be spoken of was Gregory who lived above an hundred and fiftie yeares after Sylvester between the fifth and sixth age I call them and others Saints after the manner of the Romish Church that it may the better be knowne of whom I speake I having no purpose here to question their holines seeing also the Apostle calleth all Christians Saints and although it is apparant that the puritie of the Church was already much changed under this Pope yet he had modesty enough pertinently to refuse this title which was offered him and to reprove and blame the same severely in the Bishop of Constantinople who challenged and usurped that which hitherto had been attempted by none other And however my resolution be not to overcharge this Treatise with passages of Fathers I hope notwithstanding that it shall not be amisse to set downe St Gregories own words on this subject which even those of the Romish Church confesse to be true and not Apocrypha and shew so neere as I can the summe of the History There was at that time in Constantinople a Bishop named Iohn a man exceeding ambitious desiring to extend the limits of his Diocesse as far as was those of the Empire and usurpe the title of universall Bishop over the whole Church even as the Emperour who had his residence in that Citie was generall and universall Monarch of the world a title which before him no Bishop durst usurpe which Gregory Bishop of Rome seeing and considering how great consequence prejudice it was to his See and all other Bishops he as the most potent and remarkable among them for the causes I have already set downe opposeth stoutly labouring violently to repell the boldnesse and temeritie of this usurper Greg. l. 4. Epist 76. without complaining therefore that John had therein incroached upon any priviledge appertaining to him and all the Bishops of Rome but he couragiously maintaineth that title to be prophane sacrilegious and a presage of the comming of Antichrist Idem l. 4. Epist 78. see the 76 Epistle 4 Book And in the 78 Epistle of the same Book It is saith he a thing too hard to indure that our brother and fellow-Bishop should be alone called Bishop in contempt of all the rest and what other thing doth his arrogance portend but that the time of Antichrist approacheth already in so far as he imitateth him who disdaining the company of Angells assayed to ascend to the top of singularitie In the 80 Epistle of the same Book he saith Idem l. 4. Epist 80. None of my predecessours would use this prophane word because if one will call himselfe universall Patriarch the name of Patriarch is stolne from others but far be it from a Christian soule that any should falsly ascribe to himselfe that whereby he diminisheth any thing from the honour of the brethren to consent to that unjust speech is no other thing than to fall from the faith one thing wee owe to the unitie of faith and another thing to suppresse pride and I say boldly that he who calleth himselfe Pastour universall or desireth so to be called surpasseth the Antichrist in pride because by pride he exalteth himselfe above others Idem l. 6 Epist 188. In his 188 Epistle of the sixt Book see his words I have said that he could not have peace with us if he corrected not the vanitie of that superstitious and ambitious word which hath been invented by the first Apostat and to speak nothing of the injury done to your honour if a Bishop be called universall that universall once falling the universall Church must also fall downe Thus much saith St Gregory of the arrogance of John Patriarch of Constantinople Idem l. 1. Epist 30. who would appropriate this title to himselfe he blameth his insolence and applieth not to himselfe that which he denieth to him but rather refuseth it being offered in those words in the thirtith Epistle of his seventh Book Behold saith he in the Preface of the Epistle yee have sent unto mee I having forbid it yee have wrote a word full of ambition calling mee universall Pope which I intreat you yee would use no more for it is taken from you which is given to any other more than reason requireth As for mee I account it no honour to see the honour of my brethren diminished for my honour is the honour of the universall Church and the solid authoritie of my brethren Now if your sanctitie call mee the Pope universall you deny your selfe to be such in calling mee universall And thus much St Gregory in those places for the condemning of that title as well in his owne person as in John who would not for all submit thereto but persisted still in his presumption nor would his successour after him for any intreaty part with any thing Judge by those testimonies if in those times the Bishop of Rome was thought or did thinke himselfe generall Pastour and Head of the Church his power and authoritie being already very great but not yet come to the presumption of usurping that dignity and primacy for that seemed to be an usurpation of such consequence and prejudice to all other Bishops that he durst not attempt it publikely for feare of a generall oppositiō from all other Bishops who might also have interposed the authoritie of the Emperour And howsoever the Bishop of Rome at that time did shew a great inclination to their primacy for perfecting of their greatnesse yet did they never dare to ascribe the same to themselves
words of God even in the matter of the Sacraments But the Pope doth not onely extend those words unto internall and externall sins but perswading himself that it was especially said to him All that thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven and all that thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed He taketh upon him to loose the bands of oaths loose and exempt Subjects from the subjection and fidelity they owe to their natural Princes and children from the obedience they owe to their fathers and mothers when they become Religious in any Monasterie by the same authoritie they loose marriage lawfully contracted if it be found that the husband and the wife together have presented a child to be baptized or be allied by the confirmation and so it seemeth that the Scripture is onely alledged by the Papists to uphold and maintain the power of the Pope Now what ever is the controversie among them for this passage it sufficeth that it manifestly appeareth through the whole Scripture that Christ did never command Auricular Confession but repentance and amendment and that the Apostles did neither command nor practise it which if they had done it would questionlesse have been mentioned in the Scripture in some places of their writings or in the History of the Acts of the Apostles and if the confession were of such importance as they would have it in the Romish Church the Apostles doubtlesse should have preached it and even practised it often amongst them confessing one to another For all the Doctors confesse that they might commit if not mortall yet veniall sins and when they did declare the faith to the faithfull they would also have preached the sincere confession of their sins and taught them the true manner of the same and even to make generall confessions as they had preached the practise and exercise of other vertues which not being found in any part we must conclude that in their time confession was not in use and that it is an humane invention proceeding neither from Christ nor his Apostles but instituted established and maintained by the Clergie for the great temporall profit they draw from it I say moreover in the time of the primitive Church Auricular confession was not in use and was neither thought an obligation nor command nor of such importance as it is at this present which that it may be most cleerly seen I intreat the Reader and especially them of the Romish Church to see in the life of their Saints which they hold for their Bible and holy Scripture there let them read the life of all the Apostles and holy Martyrs nay even of all those whom they call the Confessors of the first ages as of St. Augustine Chrysostome Athanasius and Basilius who is esteemed to be founder of the orientall Monks of St. Anthony and St. Paul the Hermits Finally of all those of the fourth fifth and sixth ages yea and since I am assured they will never find that any of those ancient Fathers did make any auricular and secret confession to the Priests Notwithstanding they are esteemed to have been very zealous men in Christian Religion and men of vertue and exemplary perfection who would never have omitted it if it had been of so great importance See both their life and death there is never a word spoken of Auricular confession which if they had used it would questionlesse have been mentioned some where in some one of those lives which are in great number And he especially who not long ago hath gathered and collected all those lives and who hath omitted nothing which he thought might be usefull to the Romish Church would never have left out this point if he had found the least traces of it in any places and I even marvell he hath not added it as he hath done many other things of his own invention but we must say that either he did not bethink himself of it or God hath not permitted it to confound this new doctrine of the Romish Church by looking to the ancient and the practise of those Fathers And mark how the same Author forgetteth not to mention this point in the times of those where he findeth it to have been used and because that this Auricular confession hath been in greater estimation within this short time than ever before so there is no Saint in those last ages in whose life there is not very speciall mention made of their frequent confessions and their sincerity therein but in the lives of the ancients there is no mention made of it at all Moreover I marvelled often that there was no more spoken of it in the books of the ancient Fathers Turn over I pray you Augustine Irenaeus Theodoret Chrysostome and Cyprian and see if there be any thing spoken of Auricular confession to the Priests it may be they speak of some exomologese and confession but that was publike and not secret confession to the Church for satisfaction and edification and not secret and Auricular confession to the Priests for sacramentall Absolution Remarke also if yee finde in any place of them any examination of the conscience with which all the Books of this time are filled in the Church of Rome see if any of them hath written any cases of conscience to teach the manner of confession as we see a great multitude in our dayes there yee will finde no such things and is it not a strong proofe if it be not found in those Fathers that Auricular confession was not in use in those dayes for they being so godly men and the most famous of their ages they would often questionlesse have used it and recommended it to others and it is not credible they would have composed so big volumes without making cleare mention in some place nay even in many places of that which is esteemed so necessary a Sacrament and of so great importance Furthermore Yee will find in the Book of the lives of the Saints and in the History of the ancient Hermits attributed to St Jerome how those Ancients were sometimes nay even often and in many places of Aegypt foure or five thousand Hermits or Cenobites or more under one Superiour Master accustoming themselves to the singing of Psalmes reading and meditation of the holy Scripture for it was not as yet forbidden in those times and to work with their owne hands and bodyes to winne their livings and be burdensome to none as St Paul did and commonly there was but one Priest for that great multitude who often did not live amongst them but came to see them every Sabbath to celebrate divine Service unto them Now there is no appearance that the confession was in use in those times for one or two Priests would not suffice to confesse often so great a number and though a man should doe no other thing in a fortnight he were not able to confesse two thousand And those Books of their lives make no mention that they
quod Now what I pray you are all the traditions of the Romish Church but doctrine and things besides the Word of God Besides that which St Paul and Christ Jesus and the other Apostles did preach yea even contrary for all doctrine taught as necessary to faith out of the Scripture is also contrary unto the Scripture seeing it is against the prohibition to adde to the Word of God Mat. 15.9 and God condemneth them who teach for doctrine of faith the doctrine and commandements of men And mark that Christ Jesus in this chap. of St Matthew did specially condemne the Pharisees because they transgressed the commandements of God by their traditions and what I pray you were those traditions they were not things expresly forbidden in the law of God but simple additions and willing devotions without the word of God and which outwardly smelled of nothing but devotion puritie and holinesse as to fast three times a week to wash the cups the platters to tithe Mint and Annise to make conscience to heal any sick man on the Sabbath day to make long prayers to abstaine from certaine meats and that not through a conceit that those things were polluted but through a willing devotion and humilitie of spirit or through a desire to mortifie the flesh but because those things were taught as being of equall authoritie with the doctrine of faith that is the cause wherefore they are condemned by the Son of God as contrary to his holy Word There is no doubt but by this passage of the Apostle St Paul we cited before are also condemned all the Traditions of the Romish Church which are taught and preached to be of equall authoritie with the holy Scriptures which truely are besides the Word of God and the Gospel that was preached by our Saviour and his Disciples for how cometh it to passe that they should have preached so many things pertaining to faith and salvation and never speak any thing of them in any of their Books nor in the acts of the Apostles which is the History of the most remarkable actions and Sermons of the Apostles for more than twenty yeares see if there be any thing spoken there of the invocation of Saints of Indulgencies Purgatory prayer for the dead of the Communion under one kinde or of the rest and if those and the like things be not in the holy Scriptures they are besides the Word of God and consequently he that preacheth them is accursed and Anathema and they are not to be received as pertaining to faith And to shew that the Traditions which the Church of Rome teacheth as Articles of faith doe not come from Christ Jesus and his Apostles nor cannot be said to be Apostolique nor divine but papall and humane to say no worse there is almost none of them the history of that Church sheweth not by what Pope or Bishop they were invented and at what time they had their beginning Baro. Annal Eccle. Gualter Chronol Durant de ritib. see the Authors who handle the same least I should be too prolix in this matter being desirous to lay open another of not much lesse importance CHAP. VII That wee cannot ground our beliefe upon the Books of the ancient Fathers THose of the Romish Church to authorise their Traditions which are besides nay contrary to the Word of God send us to the Fathers as to other Judges to determine our differences whose doctrine they affirme to be conformable to that which they teach Certainly I have thought Antiquitie in it selfe to be very venerable and worthy to be respected especially the Fathers whose grave and learned Books deserve praise of all good spirits principally if their doctrine be conformable to the Word of God which is the sole infallible rule of all good doctrine And to speak truly I finde that the Fathers of the first ages condemne in a number of places so manifestly the errors and superstitious doctrines of the Romish Church that I have marvailed oftentimes how they can have the boldnesse to alledge them in their favour It is true that as in the time of St Paul the mystery of iniquitie was already working so it is not to be marveiled that they being men some things have now and then insensibly crept into the writings of some of them which were not altogether so pure and seeme somewhat to incline to superstitions which by little and little insinuated themselves into the Church But I beleeve that though all their Books should seeme manifestly to contradict the faith of the Reformed Churches wee are not obliged to receive them as our Judges neither as irreprochable Witnesses and howsoever I esteeme highly of the Authours yet wee cannot ground any Article of faith upon their Writings but so far as wee finde them to conforme to the Word of God which is the toucstone of all truth neither are wee bound to have recourse to them any wayes For if we were obliged to have recourse to them and receive them for Judges of our faith that were to bring our faith and the point of our salvation in an impossibilitie at least morall because all Christians should be obliged to have them and to have them all or the most part which is not possible but to the richer sort and having them they should be obliged to reade them almost all and that wholy to the end they might compare one with another and see if they agree one with another in the same doctrine and if they be conformable to themselves every where and so none but those who had great leasure could reade them and being almost all of them either in Latine or Greeke or other strange tongue but few of them in vulgar tongues what should they doe who understand neither Latine nor Greeke There would be none then but the richer and learneder and those who had no other imployment but to reade could be assured of their faith and so all others should be without faith and knowledge of those things which concerne their salvation and consequently in a manifest way of perdition by their ignorance Notwithstanding our Saviour his coming was to teach the poore as well as the rich the ignorant as the learned the Merchants and Tradesmen as well as those who are not so much imployed Besides it is impossible to build upon their Writings any beliefe of faith for as Printing was not in their time but onely two or three hundred yeares since those who have written in the Primitive Church even to our time since our Saviour which hath been thirteen or fourteen hundred yeares have left us nothing but Manuscripts which behooved to be transcribed that they might be dispersed Now there is no man who will not confesse that the Originals and first Manuscripts written or at least revised and corrected by the Fathers which composed them have been seen but of a few and little or nothing of them all is to be found at this time nor was found
the word Pope which is as to say Father or if ye will Father of fathers Pater patrum it was a name common in ancient time to all Bishops and when they called him Bishop that was neither universall nor yet of Rome nor Romane but very seldome but onely Bishop of the Citie of Rome to shew that in those times his Jurisdiction extended not without the walls and suburbs of the Citie of Rome Whence it may be observed that in much probability the Bishops yet of those times were no more than the Pastours of parishes as it is certain they were at the first institution there being not yet at that time speech of diocesse nor of Pastour that had authoritie over many Pastours or Churches and the number of Christians being but small every where one Pastour did serve and was sufficient for the greatest Cities who was called Bishop using the aid and assistance in his charge of the Presbyters that is to say Elders and out of the number of the Elders was ordinarily chosen the Bishop which is to say Intendent or overseer of the flock but this by the way Now to return to the Bishop of Rome it is true that some times they were transported with flattery or by way of civility and complement to give him some titles and Epithites of praise savouring more of flattery than truth extolling either his learning or holinesse beyond all christian modesty and appearance of truth but by a speciall providence of God who would conserve this pure doctrine for his elect or because that was too great a prejudice for them they were never induced to give him any title which might any way shew that Primacie or generall superiority and that without any contradiction of the whole Romish Church to the time of Sylvester which is about 300. yeers and a long time also after him Which if the Bishop of Rome had had or thought to have had it was highly to wrong him in writing to him and not giving him those titles of honour which were due unto him Nor was it a good way to obtain satisfaction in that which they asked to refuse him those qualities of superioritie his subjects did owe him especially in so teetling and important a thing Is there any Prince in the world that would not have reason to be offended if one of his vassals writing to him should call him comrade and companion writing nothing in his letter to shew his submission and the dependence he hath on his Lord and yet in those first ages we read not of any Pope that was offended with any Bishops who writ to them for calling them brother fellow Bishop or companion or for denying him the title of Universall Head This therefore is a manifest proofe that no Bishops did beleeve the Pope of Rome to be universall head of the Church and that the Bishops of Rome did not think it of themselves if this consequence be not reasonable I know not what may be thought reasonable in the world Judge thou indifferent Reader with a spirit of sinceritie and void of passion They of the Romish Church it may be will produce against all that we have cleerly alledged and proved from the Scriptures or otherwise a number of passages out of some Fathers men of the first ages for since Sylvester that the greatnesse of the Bishop of Rome did begin we must not marvell for the reasons alledged which seem to give the Primacy to St. Peter and the Bishop of Rome but the answer is brief in this and other points if they produce ten seeming testimonies for them I shall produce a dozen to the contrary taken out of the same Fathers a great deale stronger cleerer and of greater force than others But not to stay any longer upon their needlesse things let them shew us the true manuscripts written by those ancient Fathers and we will take the pains to read them and examine their opinions although nothing ought to be opposed to the holy Scriptures But to alledge us books written eight or nine hundred yeers after the Autographs and written or printed after a thousand copies and under the highest power of the Church of Rome there is no reason we should trouble our brains with them and also those books being laid together can in nothing equall nor come neer the authoritie of the holy Scriptures which are avowed and acknowledged of all men and speak most cleerly and manifestly in this point And so for the Fathers in this and other matters because I will say no other thing than that which I have said in the seventh Chapter of this book I intreat the Reader to see it there But how cometh it to passe that the Pope of Rome hath possessed himself of so great an authority and maintaineth the same in so high a degree for so many ages CHAP. XII In what manner and at what time the Bishop of Rome usurped the Primacie THose who will read and consider attentively the History of the Christian Church especially the life and history of the Popes written by Popish Authors themselves will cleerly see that the first 300. yeers after the death of our Saviour to the time of Pope Sylvester the Bishop of Rome did pretend no authoritie over the Bishops nor did any give him the title of Universall Head and Bishop in any of the Epistles which were written unto him the Bishop and Church of Rome afflicted with the persecutions and tyrannies of the Emperours imploying their thoughts rather for the conservation of the faith in the practise of humility and patience than in ambition and usurpation of any authoritie which belongeth no wayes unto them But as honours change manners and seldome to the better Constantine the Emperour having been baptized by Sylvester then Bishop of Rome and made the first Christian Emperour by an excessive zeal of devotion to the great prejudice since of all Christendome transferred his Court to Constantinople leaving the City of Rome to Sylvester with a donation of many Lands Lordships and rents so by that gift the Bishop of Rome became the richest and greatest Lord and most considerable without comparison of all the Bishops of the Christian Church it being knowne through the world that the sole Emperour and Monarch of the world had left him his imperiall Citie and inriched and gratified him with so great wealth and honour for him and his successors the Bishops of Rome and howsoever this good Bishop did see himselfe possessed of all this wealth yet did he never usurpe any primacy nor title of head and superiour over other Bishops or Christians himselfe nor his successours for two hundred yeares after his death It is true that being made the richest potentest and most considerable amongst all the Bishops many began to honour him more and write to him with greater respect which ever followeth riches and greatnesse and being thus eminent among all Christians if there were any Bishop who was persecuted by other Bishops or
Againe in preparing himselfe to saile and about to passe through the raging waves calleth upon a piece of wood more rotten than the vessell that carrieth him for verily desire of gaine devised that and the workman built it by his skill Judge I pray you if all this doth not agree and is not found in the simple people of the Romish Church and if there be not as great reason to condemne them of Idolatry as those of whom it is spoken in this place and are not they which place those Images and expose them to the people which authorise them by their doctrines and sollicite the people thereunto the causers and protectors of Idolatry But as the Booke of Wisdome saith in that place The desire of game hath devised that for it especially hath been the onely covetousnesse of Priests and Clergie to gaine and gather the money and offerings of the people which hath made them expose the Images and erect them in the Churches there being many of those Images worth great revenues to the Clergie and I know some worth above ten thousand Crownes yearely to their Priests and therefore we need not marvell that the Romish Clergie so carefully maintaine the doctrine of invocation of Saints and Images For as the people goe but seldome to God but by the Saints so doe they but seldome goe to the Saints but by the Priests to wit by their Masses Pilgrimages and other the like means and howsoever the saints in heaven take no money for their paines they having no need they neverthelesse which are on the earth can well take it refusing nothing although they have no hands but the Priests have hands enough for all for they take that which is offered them with one hand with the other that which is offered to their Images so they handsomely take as men commonly say two maulters of one sack and know how to flea the poore beast without noise caring little whether the people commit Idolatry or not provided they find their profit And howsoever the Priests know well enough that the people commit idolatry with the Saints and Images in rendring to them the honour that is due to God neverthelesse that doctrine being so profitable to them they are loath to preach against it or reprove it And as a notable and very learned Bishop of the Romish Church who is yet alive and whom I well know a man unblameable in his conversation did begin not long ago eagerly to preach and write against those great abuses against the congregations and Tiercers against pilgrimages and those artificiall superstitions and the Idolatries practised by the ignorant with vitious simplicities and invented of purpose by the Priests to snatch mens money those who were the more interressed rose up against him incontinent and prevailed so far by their practises with the greatest that he was forbidden to preach and write and hath been disgraced and banished these many yeers although he was esteemed for that of the most judicious and even of them who did solicite against him but profit and gain suffocate and strangle oftentimes the reason and truth especially in the Romish Church CHAP. XIX Of the Miracles of the Romish Church THe strongest reason they of the Romish Church have to authorise their invocation of Saints is an infinite multitude of Miracles which they say were done by the Saints at the prayers of the faithfull and the book of their miracles is of such credit at this day in that Church that it is their Word of God and holy Scripture and the book in greatest estimation among the people and where scarcely one Bible is to be found in an whole Parish an hundred books of the life and miracles of Saints are to be seen Truly for my part I once accounted of them as other men did and because there was many strange accidents surpassing the force of nature I took great pleasure in reading those histories for it is naturall to our spirits to be delighted with things which are not common thence cometh it to passe that there are but few that are not delighted with the reading of Romans although they know them to be fabulous and things invented of purpose to passe idle time but when I came to sound and examine the manner in which those things were left unto us I found there was but small reason to brag of those miracles or oppose them to the Word of God and practise of the Apostles and first Christians for there is none but they know that those books of the Saints and especially that which is most esteemed at this present and called the flowers of the Saints composed by Ribadeneyra a Spanish Jesuite hath been extracted out of the ancient Legends and lives of the Saints in which the most judicious of the Romish Church as the Cardinall Baronius and others acknowledge so many absurdities and lies that they are ashamed to hold them for authentique such is the Tripartite History Metaphrastus Nicephorus The life of the ancient Fathers and Hermites attributed to St. Jerome who never dreamed of it The golden Legend and many others of the same kind where it is certain the lives of many Saints are which were never in the world Notwithstanding the Moderns have not neglected to take out of all those books the things which seemed to them least absurd and they thought easiest to be beleeved and so have left it to the world not with more truth but with more likelihood of truth But I would willingly ask them who told them that those things which they have pickt out of those ancient books and old Legends esteemed to be Apocrypha are truer than the things they have left behind For they were not present to know it and all things which might have come to passe and been done are not therefore come to passe and if any Authors have written of them they have taken them one from another as divers Writers do So truly all those Authors old and moderne do not deliver them as holy Scripture or things certain and infallible and the more judicious through all ages have never given great credit thereto Notwithstanding because many Authors are cited in them who write those things which indeed they have never seen but read or learned from their predecessours or found in some Manuscripts wherein were written many lies and false histories to make them more plausible to the end they might sell better to the people and to make them the more credible they write them often under the name of some dead Saint or some grave Author who had been famous and the simpler which make profession to beleeve all that is moulded or printed especially being dazled with the name of so many Authors whereof some were accounted Saints receive that as Gospel firmly beleeving the same but not the more judicious and wiser amongst them And as for Miracles I am not inclined to incredulitie but I am of so easie beleefe in that point as a