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and_o beget_v child_n he_o proceed_v in_o his_o query_n may_v not_o the_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n and_o supremacy_n be_v repeat_v and_o yet_o god_n name_v not_o take_v in_o vain_a be_v it_o enough_o to_o make_v our_o liturgy_n unlawful_a because_o we_o have_v in_o one_o service_n the_o lord_n prayer_n twice_o over_o answ_n some_o will_v say_v that_o the_o english_a liturgy_n be_v never_o a_o whit_n the_o better_a for_o appoint_v the_o lord_n prayer_n to_o be_v twice_o use_v in_o one_o service_n they_o think_v it_o look_v somewhat_o too_o like_o that_o vain_a battology_n condemn_v by_o our_o saviour_n but_o i_o for_o my_o part_n think_v not_o that_o it_o be_v simple_o unlawful_a to_o use_v the_o lord_n prayer_n twice_o in_o one_o service_n but_o how_o it_o will_v be_v hence_o infer_v that_o therefore_o it_o be_v not_o unlawful_a to_o repeat_v ordination_n i_o be_o not_o so_o quick-sighted_a as_o to_o perceive_v the_o thing_n we_o pray_v for_o in_o the_o lord_n prayer_n be_v thing_n 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transgression_n just_o thus_o i_o have_v hear_v that_o one_o who_o be_v late_o send_v into_o another_o world_n argue_v in_o the_o pulpit_n that_o he_o read_v of_o unity_n but_o never_o of_o uniformity_n ergo_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o do_v it_o indeed_o follow_v that_o ordination_n may_v be_v repeat_v because_o we_o do_v not_o find_v those_o word_n one_o ordination_n in_o scripture_n why_o if_o we_o have_v read_v of_o one_o ordination_n ordination_n may_v have_v be_v repeat_v notwithstanding_o for_o it_o be_v not_o therefore_o unlawful_a to_o repeat_v baptism_n though_o upon_o other_o account_v the_o repetition_n of_o it_o be_v sinful_a because_o it_o be_v say_v one_o baptism_n for_o the_o unity_n there_o speak_v of_o be_v not_o numerical_a but_o specifical_a one_o be_v as_o much_o as_o common_a to_o all_o non_fw-la respicitur_fw-la say_v vossius_fw-la in_o his_o thesis_n de_fw-fr anabaptis_n unitas_fw-la usurpationis_fw-la sed_fw-la unitas_fw-la partium_fw-la substantialium_fw-la aquaeâ—sc_fw-la &_o verbi_fw-la but_o as_o i_o say_v that_o ordination_n may_v have_v be_v iterable_a though_o we_o have_v read_v of_o one_o ordination_n so_o i_o say_v that_o though_o we_o read_v no_o such_o word_n as_o one_o ordination_n it_o may_v be_v uniterable_a and_o that_o it_o be_v so_o will_v appear_v by_o the_o argument_n use_v in_o the_o letter_n and_o other_o suggest_v to_o mr._n h._n if_o his_o answer_n to_o they_o or_o to_o any_o one_o of_o they_o prove_v unsatisfactory_a the_o first_o argument_n he_o bring_v against_o himself_o be_v that_o of_o scandal_n which_o he_o thus_o propound_v p._n 24_o 25._o many_o brethren_n do_v think_v it_o unlawful_a to_o be_v ordain_v again_o and_o by_o see_v such_o a_o one_o as_o mr._n h._n reordained_n will_v be_v embolden_v to_o do_v so_o likewise_o which_o if_o they_o do_v whilst_o they_o believe_v or_o doubt_n it_o to_o be_v unlawful_a they_o perish_v and_o when_o we_o sin_n against_o the_o brethren_n and_o wound_v their_o weak_a conscience_n we_o sin_n against_o christ_n to_o this_o he_o answer_v that_o if_o a_o man_n who_o be_v satisfy_v of_o a_o thing_n as_o indifferent_a and_o lawful_a must_v yet_o forbear_v upon_o the_o account_n that_o by_o his_o example_n other_o may_v be_v embolden_v to_o the_o same_o who_o have_v not_o that_o knowledge_n do_v judge_v it_o unlawful_a and_o so_o sin_n if_o they_o do_v it_o then_o be_v the_o way_n of_o poor_a christian_n the_o lord_n know_v very_o straight_o and_o that_o he_o be_v through_o grace_n something_o enlighten_v to_o judge_v that_o a_o man_n may_v sometime_o do_v much_o good_a in_o lead_v a_o example_n to_o the_o doubtful_a when_o a_o thing_n be_v become_v necessary_a p._n 26._o this_o argument_n be_v none_o of_o i_o &_o therefore_o it_o need_v not_o much_o trouble_v i_o what_o become_v of_o it_o nevertheless_o i_o think_v not_o meet_v to_o pass_v it_o over_o without_o acquaint_v you_o a_o little_a with_o my_o thought_n concern_v it_o 1._o methinks_v that_o of_o mr._n rutherford_n in_o his_o treatise_n of_o scandal_n p._n 53_o 54._o have_v a_o great_a deal_n in_o it_o viz._n we_o read_v not_o of_o scandal_n culpable_a in_o god_n word_n but_o there_o be_v some_o moral_a reason_n in_o they_o if_o there_o be_v no_o probable_a reason_n to_o imagine_v there_o be_v sin_n in_o re-ordination_a i_o can_v not_o be_v under_o obligation_n to_o abstain_v from_o it_o for_o fear_v of_o offend_v my_o brother_n therefore_o do_v i_o not_o forbear_v to_o turn_v up_o the_o hourglass_n or_o to_o wear_v a_o gown_n when_o i_o preach_v because_o there_o be_v not_o any_o apparent_a moral_a reason_n why_o either_o the_o one_o or_o the_o other_o shall_v scandalize_v both_o the_o glass_n and_o the_o gown_n be_v of_o mere_a civil_a use_n and_o have_v no_o moral_a influence_n in_o my_o preach_n for_o i_o use_v and_o may_v use_v my_o glass_n and_o my_o gown_n in_o read_v a_o humanity_n or_o philosophy-lecture_n to_o fresh_a man_n 2._o i_o do_v also_o judge_v that_o of_o gregory_n de_fw-fr valentia_n to_o have_v truth_n and_o favour_n in_o it_o that_o the_o law_n for_o the_o avoid_n of_o the_o scandal_n of_o a_o weak_a brother_n do_v not_o oblige_v we_o to_o forbear_v any_o thing_n which_o can_v be_v forbear_v sine_fw-la maxima_fw-la aliqua_fw-la &_o pene_fw-la intolerabili_fw-la difficultate_fw-la wherefore_o if_o it_o shall_v come_v to_o pass_v that_o i_o can_v neither_o preach_v nor_o have_v a_o livelihood_n unless_o i_o be_v reordained_n i_o shall_v not_o stick_v to_o say_v that_o i_o be_v to_o submit_v to_o re-ordination_a suppose_v it_o be_v lawful_a though_o thereby_o some_o through_o their_o ignorance_n or_o weakness_n shall_v be_v scandalize_v i_o will_v become_v any_o thing_n to_o any_o one_o rather_o than_o lose_v the_o opportunity_n of_o gain_v soul_n but_o than_o first_o mr._n humf._n may_v do_v well_o to_o consider_v whether_o this_o necessity_n be_v not_o a_o necessity_n which_o he_o have_v bring_v on_o himself_o and_o other_o possible_o a_o humble_a and_o peaceable_a but_o yet_o earnest_a perition_n to_o the_o king_n most_o excellent_a majesty_n may_v have_v prevent_v all_o this_o necessity_n of_o re-ordination_a 2._o he_o may_v do_v well_o to_o weigh_v this_o whether_o he_o do_v before_o he_o take_v order_n a_o second_o time_n endeavour_v to_o satisfy_v those_o brethren_n about_o he_o that_o be_v like_a to_o be_v scandalize_v by_o that_o his_o practice_n for_o many_o thing_n may_v be_v lawful_o do_v after_o we_o have_v give_v a_o reason_n and_o labour_v to_o prevent_v stumble_v which_o can_v not_o else_o be_v do_v without_o sin_n he_o proceed_v p._n 28._o to_o that_o which_o be_v indeed_o the_o main_a argument_n against_o re-ordination_a which_o he_o thus_o propound_v ordination_n be_v that_o which_o according_a to_o divine_n do_v give_v a_o man_n