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A07039 Hay any worke for Cooper: or a briefe pistle directed by waye of an hublication to the reverende byshopps counselling them, if they will needs be barrelled vp, for feare of smelling in the nostrels of her Maiestie [and] the state, that they would vse the aduise of reuerend Martin, for the prouiding of their cooper. Because the reuerend T.C. (by which misticall letters, is vnderstood, eyther the bounsing parson of Eastmeane, or Tom Coakes his chaplaine) to bee an vnskilfull and a beceytfull [sic] tubtrimmer. Wherein worthy Martin quits himselfe like a man I warrant you, in the modest defence of his selfe and his learned pistles, and makes the coopers hoopes to flye off, and the Bishops tubs to leake out of all crye. Penned and compiled by Martin the Metropolitane. Marprelate, Martin, pseud.; Throckmorton, Job, 1545-1601, attributed name.; Penry, John, 1559-1593, attributed name. 1589 (1589) STC 17456; ESTC S112300 39,242 60

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honorable personages haue but by diuine ordinance Yea their callings they holde as you haue heard not onely to be inclusiuely but also expreslie in the word What shifte will they vse to auoyde this point Are they the Bishopps of men that is holde they their iurisdiction as frō men No saith Deane Gridges no sayth Iohn of Canterburie and the rest of them for all of them allowe this booke of Iohn Bridges for then we are the bishops of the deuill we cannot auoid it Are they then the bishops of God that is haue they such a calling as the Apostles Euangelistes c. had that is such a calling as ought lawfully to be in a christian common wealth vnlesse the magistrate woulde iniurie the Church yea maime deforme and make a monster of the Church whether the magistrate will or no. We haue say they For our callings are not onely inclusiuely but also expressely in the worde So that by Deane Bridges his confession and the approbation of Iohn Canterburie either our bishops are bishops of the diuel or their callings cannot be defended lawful without flat and plaine treason in ouerthrowing her Maiesties supremacie And so Deane Bridges hath written and Iohn Whitgift hath approoued and allowed flat treason to be published Is Martin to be blamed for finding out and discouering traitors Is he to be blamed for crying out against the Bb. of the Diuel If he be then in deed haue I offended in writing against bishops If not whether is the better subiect Martin or our bishops whether I be fauored or no I wil not cease in the loue I owe to her Maiestie to write against traitors to write against the Diuels bishops Our bishops are such by their owne confession For they protest them selues to be bishopps of the Diuel If they should holde the preheminence to be from man If they hold it otherwise then from man they are traytors And vntil this beast Docter Gridges wrote this booke they neuer as yet durst presume to claim their Lordships any otherwise lawful then from her maiestie yea and D. Bridges about the 60. page saith the same But they care not what contrariety they haue in their writings what treason they hold as long as they are perswaded that no man shal be tollerated to write against them I haue once already shewed treason to be in this booke of the Deane of Sarum page 448. I shew the like now to be pag. 340. Because Deane Bridges durst not answeare me They haue turned vnto me in his stead a beast whome by the length of his cares I gesse to be his brother that is an Asse of the same kinde But I wil be answered of the Deane him selfe in this and the former point of treason or else his cloister shal smoake for it And thus profane T.C. you perceue what a good subiect you are in defending the established gouernment Thus also I haue answered all your booke in the matters of the lawfulnes of the gouerment by Pastors Doctors Elders and Deacons and the vnlawfulnes of our bastardly Church gouernment by archbishops and bishops where also the reader may see that if euer there was a church rightly gouerned that is a church without maime or deformity the same was gouerned by Pastors Doctors elders and deacons whan whan but where haue I bin al this while Ten to one among some of these puritans Why Martin Why Martin I say hast tow forgotten thy selfe Where hast ti bene why man cha bin a seeking for a Samons nest and cha vound a whol crue either of ecclesiasticall traitors or of bishops of the Diuel of broken and maimed members of the church neuer winke on me good fellow for I will speke the truth lett the puritans doe what they can I say then that they are broken members and I say Iohn of Canterbury if he be a member of the church I say he is a broken member and that Thomas of Winchester is a Cholerick member Yea and cha vound that profane T. C. is afraid left her Maiestie shoulde giue Bishops liuings away from them And therefore shutteth his booke with this position vz. That it is not lawful to bestow such liuings vppon lay men as are appointed by Gods law vppon ministers But hereof more warke for Cooper shal learnedly dispute Reuerend T.C. Admonition page 1. 2. 3. We vse the Ministers most vile nowe a dayes God will punish vs for it as hee did those which abused his prophets Reuerend Martin Look to it T.C. then For out of thine own mouth shalt thou be iudged thou vnrighteous seruant Our bishops are they which abuse the ministers Our bishopps were neuer good ministers as yet and therefore they are not to be compared with the prophets Reuerend T.C. Page 4. Some men will say that I do great iniurie to the prophets and apostles in comparing our Bishops vnto thē But we may be happie if we may haue tollerable ministers in this perilous age Reuerend Martin I hope T.C. that thou dost not mean to serue the church with worse then we haue what worse then Iohn of Canterburie worse then Tom Tubtrimmer of Winchester worse then the vickers of Hell syr Iefferie Iones the parson of Micklain c. I pray thee rather thē we should haue a change from euil to worse let vs haue the euil stil But I care not if I abide the venture of the change Therfore get Iohn with his Canterburinesse remooued c. whome thou acknowledgest to be euill and I doe not doubt if worse come in their stead but the diuell will soon fetch them away and so we shal be quickly rid both of euill and worse But good T.C. is it possible to finde worse then we haue I do not maruel though thou callest me libeller when thou darest abuse the Prophets farre worse then in calling thē libeliers for I tel thee true thou couldest not haue anye way so stayned their good names as thou hast done in comparing them to our bishopps Call me Libeller as often as thou wilt I do not greatly care but and thou louest me neuer liken me to our bishops of the diuell For I cannot abide to be compared vnto those For by thine owne comparison in the 9. page they are iust Balaams vp and downe Reuerend T.C. page 8. 9. 10. Though our bishops be as euil as Iudas the false Apostles and Balaam yet because they haue sometimes brought vnto vs Gods message wee must thinke no otherwise of them then of Gods messengers For God will not suffer diuellish and Antichristian persons to be the chiefe restorers of his gospell Reuerend Martin First T.C. I haue truly gathered thine argument thogh thou namest neither Iudas nor the false apostles Prooue it otherwise Then hast thou reuerend Martin prooued thy selfe a lyar Now secondly then seeing it is so I pra●e thee good honest T.C. desire our Iudasses who was also one of the first Apostles not to sell their master for money desire our false
Apostles who preached no false doctrine for the most part not to insult ouer poore Paule desire our good Balaams not to followe the wages of vnrighteousnes The counsell is good For Iudas thogh one of the first publishers of the gospell so were not our bishops in our time yet hung himself The false apostles had their reward I doubt not And Balaam as soon as euer the Israelites tooke him was iustly executed for his wickednes The forced blessing wherewith he blessed thē saued him not Reuerend T.C. page 10. 11. 12. 13. May coniecturall speeches flye abroad of bishops as that they are couetous giue not to the poore hinder reformation Simoniacks c. but the chiefe gouernours ought to take heede that they giue no credit to any suche things I trust neuer any of them commited idolatrie as Aharon did Reuerend Martin Yea I beseeche you that are in authoritie in any case not to beleeue any trueth against our bishops For these puritans although the bishops grant themselues to bee as euill as Balaam coulde neuer yet prooue the good fathers to haue committed idolatrie as Aharon did And as long as they bee no worse then Balaam was there is no reason why they should be disliked You know this is a troublesome worlde men cannot come vnto any meare liuing without friendes And it is no reason why a man should trouble his friende and giue him nothing a hundred poundes and a gelding is yet better then nothing To b●w●e but seuen dayes in a weeke is a very tollerable recreation You must knowe that Iohn of London hath sometimes preached as this profane T.C. hath giuen out to his no small commendations thrise in a yeare at Paules crosse A sore labor it is reason that he should bestowe the rest of they care in maintaining his health by recreation and prouiding for his family giue him leaue but to keepe out the gouernment of the Church to swear like a swag to persecute and to take some small ten in the hundred and truely he will be loath euer to commit idolatrie as Aharon did I hope though Iudas sold his master yet that it cannot be prooued since his calling that euer he committed idolatrie Reuerend T.C. page 16. 17. Though bishops should offende as Noah did in drunkennes yet good childrē should cou●r their fathers falts For naturall children though they suffer iniuries at their fathers hands yet they take their griefes verie mildely Reuerend Martin Bishop Westphaling But what then Parson Grauat parson of sir Iohn Pulchres in London one of dumbe Iohns housing mates will be drunke but once a weeke But what then good childrē should take linkes in a cold morninge light them at his nose to see if by that means some part of the fire that hath so flashed his sweete face might be taken away this were their dutie sayth T. C not to crie redde nose redd nose But T.C. what if a man shoulde finde him lying in the kenill whether shoulde he take him vpp all to be mired like a swore in the sight of the people and ●ary him home on his backe or fling a couer 〈…〉 him and let him there take his rest vntill his leggs woulde be aduised by him to carie him home But me thinks brother T.C. you defend the bishops but 〈◊〉 fauoredly in these pointes For you doe as though a chiefe should saye to a true man I must needs haue thy purse thou must beare with me it is my nature I must needes playe the thiefe But yet thou dealest vncharitably with me if thou blasest it abroad for though I make an occupation of theft yet charitie would couer it So saye you though our bishops make a trade of persecuting and depriuing Gods ministers though they make a trade of continuing in Antichristian callings yet charitie woulde haue their faltes couered haue them mildely delt with As though T.C. there were no difference betwixt those that fall by infirmitie into some one sinne not making it their trade and not defending the same to be lawfull and our bishops which continue in an Antichristian calling and occupation and defend they may do so But wil they leaue think you if they be mildly gently delt with Thē good Iohn of Canterbury I praye thee leaue thy persecuting good Iohn of Canterbury leaue thy Popedome good father Iohn of London be no more a bishop of the Diuell be no more a traytor to God and his worde And good sweet boyes all of you become honest men maime deform the church no longer sweet fathers now make not a trade of persecuting gentle fathers keep the people in ignoraunce no longer good fathers now maintain the dumbe ministerie no longer Be the destruction of the Church no longer good sweete babes nowe leaue your Nonresidencie your other sinnes sweete Popes now and suffer the trueth to haue free passage Lo T.C. nowe I haue mildely delt with the good fathers I will nowe expecte a while to see whether they will amende by faire means if not let them not say but they haue bin warned Reuerend T.C. from the 20. to the 30. Though the bishops be faltie yet they are not to be excused that finde falt with them for synister ends And the prince and magistrates is to take heed that by their suggestions they be not brought to put downe L. bishops to take away their liuings and put them to their pensions For the putting of them to their pensions would discourage young students from the study of diuinity Reuerend Martin I thought you were afraide to loose your liuings by the courtier Martins meanes But brethren feare it not I woulde not haue any true minister in the land want a sufficient liuing But good soules I commend you yet that are not so bashful but you will shew your griefes Is it the treading vnder foote of the glory of God that you feare good men No no say they we could resonably wel bear that losse But we dye if you deminish the alowance of our Kitchin Lett vs be assured of that and our Lordly callings and we do not greatly care how other matters go I will when more worke is published helpe those good young students vnto a means to liue though they haue none of your Bishopdomes if they will be ruled by me Reuerend T.C. page 5 36. There haue bene within these fewe weekes 3. or 4. pamphlets published in print against bishops The author of them calleth him selfe Martin c. R. Martin But good Tom Tubtrimmer if there haue bin 3. or 4 published why doth bishop Cooper name on only why doth he not confute all why doth he inuent obiections of his owne seeing he had 3. books more to confute or 2. at least then he hath touched nay why doth he not confute one of them thoroughly seeing therein his Bishopdome was reasonably caperclawed I haue onely published a Pistle and a Pitomie wherein also I graunt that I did reasonably Pistle them Therefore
T.C. you begin with a lye in that you say that I haue published either 3. or 4. bookes Reuerend T.C. page 38. His grace neuer felt bl●w as yet c. What is he past seeking wilt thou tel me that T. C he sleepeth belike in the top of the roust I would not be so wel thwacked for the popedome of Canter as he hath borne poore man He was neuer able to make good syllogisme since I am sure Hee alowed D. Bridges his booke quoth T.C. I pray thee what got he by that but a testimony against him selfe that either he hath allowed treason or confessed him selfe to be the bishop of the Diuell T.C. page 38. He that readeth his grace his answere M. Cartwrights reply shal see which is the better lerned of the twoe So he shal in deed T.C. and he were very simple which could not discerne that And there is soe much answered already as thou faist that his grace dare answere no more for shame And T.C. you your selues grant T. Cartwright to be learned so did I neuer think Iohn Whitgift to bee what comparison cann you make betwene them But Thomas Cartwright shall I say that thou madest this booke against me because T.C. is sett to it wel take heed of it if I find it to be thy doing I will so besoop thee as thou neuer bangedst Iohn Whitgift better in thy life I see heere that they haue quarrelled with thee Water Trauerse Iohn Penri Thomas Sparke Giles Wiggington Master Dauison c. Nay it is no matter you are een wel serued this wil teach you I trow to become my chaplaines For if you were my chaplains once I trowe Iohn Whitgift nor any of his durst not once say blacke to your eies And if I had thy learning Thomas Cartwright I would make them all to smoak But though I were as verye an Asschoad as Iohn Catercap is yet I coulde deale well inough with cleargie men yea with olde Winken de word D. Prime his selfe And I le bepistle you D. Prime when I am at more leasure though in deede I tell you true that as yet I doe disdaine to deale with a contemptible trencher chaplaine such as you D. Bankcroft and Chaplaine Duport are But I se be with you all three to bring one day you shall neuer scape my fingers if I take you but once in hande You see how I haue delt with Deane Iohn your entertainement shal be alike But Thomas Cartwright thou art T.C. so is Tom Cooper too The distinction then betweene you both shall be this he shal be profane T. C. because he calleth Christ Iesus by whom the gouernment by Pastors Doctors Elders Deacons was commanded to be he knowes not whom and thou shalt be simple T.C. Concerning Mistresse Lawson profane T.C. is it not lawfull for her to go to Lambeth by water to accompanie a preachers wife going also as commonly godly matrons in London do with her man Qui pergit quod vult dicere quae non vult audiet No saith T.C. I doe not like this in women Tushe man Thomas Lawson is not Thomas Cooper he has no suche cause to doubt of Dame Lawsons going without her husbande as the bishop of Winchester hath had of dame Coopers gadding But more worke for Cooper will say more for Mistresse Lawson From whom soeuer Charde had his protection his Face is glad of it for otherwise he knoweth not how to get a printer for the established gouernment because the bookes will not sell Touching the Premunire let the Libeller and his doe what he dare T.C. pag. 40. Why brethren what wisedome is this in you to dare your betters doe you not know that I can finde you my minde by a Pistle and then prooue you to be pettie Popes and enemies to the State And how can you mend your selues It is certaine you are in a premunire If her Maiestie will giue me leaue to haue the law I will be bound to bring 10000. poundes into her coffers vpon that bargain And therefore foolish men dare your betters no more And here I pray thee mark how I haue made the bishops to pull in their hornes For whereas in this place they had printed the word dare they bethought themselues that they had to deale with my worship which am fauoured at the Court and being afraide of me they pasted the word can vpon the word dare and so where before they bad me and mine doe what we durst now they bid vs do what we can hoping thereby to haue a frinde in a corner whoe woulde not suffer vs to doe what wee ought and durst and so our abilitie shoulde not be according vnto their demerit Marke now ye bishopps of the Diuell whether you be not afraide of me I will see you iolled with the Premunire one day The like thing you shal finde in the 135. page For there hauing said that they wil not denie the discipline to haue bene in the Apostles time they haue now pasted there vpon that That is not yet proued So that although their consciences do tell them that the discipline was then yet they will beare the world in hand that that is not yet proued Here you see that if this patch T.C. had not vsed two patches to couer his patcherie the bishops woulde haue accounted him to be as very a patch as Deane Iohn A but these knaue puritans are more vnmannerly before his grace then the recusaunts are and therefore the recusants haue more fauor I cannot blame them for wee ought to haue no popes The papists liketh the Archiepiscopall Pall and therefore reuerenceth a petty Pope therein And though the recusant come not to heare the sermons yet he is an informer very often vppon other mens information His grace denieth that euer he hard of any such matter as that the Iesuit should say he would becom a braue Cardinal if popery should come againe I knowe T.C. that long since he is past shame and a notorious lyer otherwise how durst he deny this seeing Cliffe an honest and a godly cobler dwelling at Battell bridg did iustifie this before his grace his teethe yea and will iustifie the same againe if he be called So will Atkinson too page 41. page 46. page 44. Send for them if he dare Ministers of the Gospel ought to be called priests saith his grace what say you by that Then good sir Iohn O Cant. when wilt thou say Masse at our house His grace is also perswaded that there ought to be a Lordly superioritie among ministers So was Iudas perswaded to sell his master If you woulde haue these thinges prooued profane T.C. referreth you to his grace his answer vnto simple T.C. and to doctor Bridges That is if you woulde learne any honestie you must go to the stewes or if you would haue a good sauour you must go to the sincke for it Why thou vnsauorly snuffe dost tow thinke that men
Hay any worke for Cooper Or a briefe Pistle directed by waye of an hublication to the reverende Byshopps counselling them if they will needs be barrelled vp for feare of smelling in the nostrels of her Maiestie the State that they would vse the aduise of reuerend Martin for the prouiding of their Cooper Because the reuerend T.C. by which misticall letters is vnderstood eyther the bounsing Parson of Eastmeane or Tom Coakes his Chaplaine to bee an vnskilfull and a beceytfull tubtrimmer Wherein worthy Martin quits himselfe like a man I warrant you in the modest defence of his selfe and his learned Pistles and makes the Coopers hoopes to flye off and the Bishops Tubs to leake out of all crye Penned and compiled by Martin the Metropolitane Printed in Europe not farre from some of the Bounsing Priestes A man of worshipp to the men of worship that is Martin Marprelate gentleman Primate Metropolitane of all the Martins whersoeuer To the Iohn of al the sir Iohns and to the rest of the terrible priests saith haue among you once againe my cleargie masters For O Brethren there is such a deal of loue growne of late I perceiue betweene you and me that although I would be negligent in sending my Pistles vnto you yet I see you cannot forget me I thought you to bee verye kinde when you sent your Purcivaunts about the countrie to seeke for me But now that you your selues haue taken the paines to write this is out of all crie Why it passes to thinke what louing carefull brethren I haue who although I cannot be gotten to tell them where I am because I loue not the ayre of the Clinke or Gate-house in this colde time of Winter and by reason of my busines in Pistlemaking will notwithstanding make it knowne vnto the world that they haue a moneths mind towards me Now truly brethren I find you kinde why ye do not know what a pleasure you haue done me My worships books were vnknowne to many before you allowed T.C. to admonishe the people of England to take heed that if they loued you they woulde make much of their prelates and the chiefe of the cleargie Now many seeke after my bookes more then euer they did Againe some knew not that our brother Iohn of Fulham was so good vnto the porter of his gate as to make the poore blinde honest soule to be a dum minister Many did not know eyther that Amen is as much as by my fayth so that our Sauiour Christe euer sware by his fayth or that bowling and eating of the Sabboth are of the same nature that Bb. may as lawfully make blinde guydes as Dauid might eate of the Shew bread or that father Thomas tubtrimmer of Winchester good old student is a master of Arts of 45. yeares standing Many I say were ignorant of these thinges and many other prettie toyes vntil you wrote this prettie booke Besides whatsoeuer you ouerpasse in my writings and did not gainsay that I hope wil be iudged to be true And so Iohn a Bridges his treason out of the 448. page of his booke you graunt to be true Your selues you denie not to bee pettie popes The B. of sir Dauids in Wales you denie not to haue two wiues with an hundred other thinges which you do not gainsay so that the reader may iudge that I am true of my worde and vse not to lye like Bb. And this hath greatly commended my worshipps good dealing But in your confutation of my book you haue shewed reuerende Martin to be truepenie in deede For you haue confyrmed rather then confuted him So that brethren the pleasure which you haue done vnto me is out of all scotche and notche And shoulde not I againe be as readie to pleasure you Naye then I shoulde be as vngrateful towards my good brethrē as Iohn of Cant. is to Thomas Cartwright The which Iohn although he hath bin greatly fauored by the said Thomas in that Thomas hath now these many yeares let him alone and said nothing vnto him for not answering his books yet is not ashamed to make a secrete comparison betweene himselfe and Thomas Cartwright As who say Iohn of Lambehith were as learned as Thomas Cartwright What say you old deane Iohn a Bridges haue not you shewed your selfe thankfull vnto hir Maiestie in ouerthrowing hir supremacie in the 448. page of your booke I will lay on load on your skincoat for this geare anon And I will haue my penyworths of all of you brethrē ere I haue done with you for this pains which your T. C hath taken with me This is the puritans craft in procuring me to be confuted I knowe I le be euen with them to A craftie whoresons brethren Bb. did you thinke because the puritans T.C. did set Iohn of Cant at a nonplus and gaue him the ouerthrow that therefore your T.C. alias Thomas Cooper bishop of Winchester or Thomas Cooke his Chaplaine could set me at a nonplus Simple fellowes me thinkes he should not I gesse your T.C. to be Thomas Cooper but I do not peremptorily affirme it because the modest olde student of 52. yeres standing setteth Winchester after Lincolne Rochester in the contents of his booke which blasphemy would not haue bin tollerated by them that saw and allowed the book vnlesse mistres Coopers husband had bin the author of it Secondly because this T.C. the author of this booke is a bishop and therefore Thomas Cooper he is a Bishop because he reckoneth him selfe charged amongst others with those crimes whereof non are accused but bishops alone pag. 101. lin 26. Ha olde Martin yet I-see thou hast it in thee thou wilt enter into the bowels of the cause in hand I perceue Nay if you wil commend me I will giue you more reasons yet The stile and the phrase is very like her husbands that was somtimes woont to write vnto doctor Day of Welles You see I can do it in deed Again non would be so groshead as to gather because my reuerence telleth Deane Iohn that he shall haue twenty fists about his eares more then his owne whereby I meant in deede that manye would write against him by reason of his bomination learning which otherwise neuer ment to take pen hand that I threatned him with blowes and to deale by stafford law Whereas that was far from my meaning and could by no means be gathered out of my words but only by him that pronounced Eulojin for Enlogeni in the pulpit and by him whom a papist made to beleeue that the greek word Enlogeni that is to giue thanks signifieth to make a crosse in the forhead py hy hy hy I cannot but laugh py hy hy hy I cannot but laugh to thinke that an olde soaking student in this learned age is not ashamed to be so impudent as to presume to deale with a papist when he hath no grue in his pocked But I promise you Sir it is no shame to
be a L. bishop if a man could thogh he were as vnlerned as Iohn of Glocester or William of Liechfeld And I tel you true our brother Westchester had as liue playe twentie nobles in a night at Priemeero on the cards as trouble him selfe with any pulpit labor and yet he thinks him self to be a sufficient bishop What a bishop such a cardplaier A bishop play 20. nobles in a night Whie a round threpence serueth the turn to make good sport 3. or 4. nights amongst honest neighbours And take heede of it brother Westchester it is an vnlawfull game if you will beleeue me Foe in winter it is no matter to take a litle sport for an od cast braces of 20. nobles when the wether is foule that men cannot go abroad to boules or to shoote What would you haue men take no recreatiō Ye but it is an old said saw inough is as good as a feast And recreations must not be made a trade and an occupation ●a master Martin Marprelate I tel you true brother mine though I haue as good a gift in pistle making as you haue at priemeero and far more delight then you can haue at your cards for the loue I beare to my brethren yet I dare not vse this sport but as a recreation not making any trade therof And cards I tel you though they bee without hornes yet they are parlous beasts Be they lawful or vnlawful take heed of them for al that For you cannot vse them but you must needs say your brother T.C. his Amen that is sweare by your faith many a time in the night wel I will neuer stande argling the matter any more with you If you will leaue your card playing so it is if you wil not trust to it it wil be the worse for you I must go simply and plainly to worke with my brethren that haue published T.C. Whosoeuer haue published that booke they haue so hooped the bishops tubbs that they haue made them to smel far more odious then euer they did euen in the nostrels of all men The booke is of 252. pages The drift thereof is to confute certaine printed and published libelles You bestowe not ful 50. pages in the answeare of any thing that euer was published in print The rest are bestowed to maintaine the belly and to confute what think you Euen the slanderous inuentions of your owne braines for the most part As that it is not lawfull for her Maiestie to allot any lands vnto the maintenaunce of the minister or the minister to liue vpō lands for this purpose allotted vnto him but is to content him selfe with a smal pention so small as he haue nothing to leaue for his wife childrē after him for whom he is not to be careful but to rest on gods prouidence and is to require no more but foode and raiment that in pouerty he might be answerable vnto our Sauiour Christ and his apostles In the confutation of these points the scriptures corruptly aplied to proue them there is bestowed aboue an 100. pages of this book that is from the 149. vnto the end Well T.C. whosoeuer thou art whosoeuer Martin is neither thou nor any man or woman in England shal know while you liue suspect and trouble as many as you wil and therefore saue your mony in seeking for him for it may be he is neerer you then you are ware of But whosoeuer thou art I say thou shewest thy selfe to be a most notorious wicked slanderer in fathering these things vppon those whome they call puritans which neuer any enioying common sense would affirme And bring me him or set downe his name and his reasons that holdeth any of the former points confuted in thy book and I wil proue him to be vtterly bereaued of his witts and his confuter to be either stark mad or a stark enemy to al religion yea to her Maiestie the state of this kingdome No no T.C. puritans hold no such points It were well for bishops that their aduersaries were thus sottishe They might then iustly insence her Maiestie and the state against them if they were of this minde These obiections in the confutation whereof thou hast bestowed so much time are so farre from hauing any puritane to be their author as whosoeuer readeth the book were he as blockheaded as Thomas of Winchester himselfe hee may easily knowe them to be obiections onely inuented by the authour of the booke himselfe For although hee bee an impudent wretch yet dareth he not set them downe as writings of any other for then he woulde haue described the author and the booke by some adient The puritans in deede holde it vnlawfull for a minister to haue such temporall reuenews as whereby tenne ministers might be well maintained vnlesse the sayd reuenews come vnto him by inheritance They holde it also vnlawfull for any state to bestowe the liuings of many ministers vpon one alone especially when there is such want of ministers liuings They holde it vnlawfull for anye minister to be Lorde ouer his brethren And they holde it vnlawfull for anye state to tollerate such vnder their gouernment Because it is vnlawfull for states to tollerate men in th●se places whereinto the word hath forbidden them to enter They affirme that our Sauiour Christe hath forbidden all ministers to be Lords Luke 22.25 And the Apostle Peter sheweth them to be none of Gods ministers which are Lords ouer Gods heritage as you Bishopps are and woulde bee accounted Those thinges T.C. y●● should haue confuted and not troubles your selfe to execute the fruites of your owne braines as an enemie to the state And in these points I do challenge you T.C. and you Deane Iohn and you Iohn Whi●gift and you doctor Coosins and you doctor Caprase Cop●●●… 〈◊〉 your name be and as many else as haue or dare write in the defence of the established church gouernment If you cannot confute my former assertions you do but in vain thinke to maintaine your selues by slaunders in fathering vppon the puritanes the ofspringes of your owne blockheads And assure your selues I wil so besoop you if you cānot defend your selues in these points as al the world shal cry shame vppon you you think protely to escape the point of your Antichristian calings by giuing out that puritans hold it vnlawfull for her maiestie to leaue any lands for the vse of the ministers maintenance I cannot but commend you for I promise you you can shift of an haynous accusation very pretily A true man bringeth vnanswerable witnesses against a robber by the high way side desireth the iudge that the lawe may proceede against him O no my Lord saith the thiefe in any case let not me be dealt with For these mine accusers haue giuen out that you are a drunkard or they haue committed treason against the state therefore I pray you beleeue my slander against thē that they may be executed so when I come to my
trial I shal be sure to haue no accusers A very prety way to escape if a man could tel howe to bringe the matter about Now bretheren bishops your manner of dealing is euen the very same The puritans say truly that al Lord bishops are pety Antichristes and therefore that the magistrates ought to thrust you out of the common welth Nowe of all loues say the bishops let not our places be called in question but rather credit our slanders against the puritans whereby if men would beleeue vs when we lie we would beare the world in hand that these our accusers are Malcontents and sottish men holding it vnlawful for the maiestrat to alott any lands for the ministers portion and vnlawful for the minister to prouide for his family And therefore you must not giue eare to the accusations of any such men against vs. And so we shal be sure to be acquited But brethren doe you thinke to be thus cleared why the puritans hold no such points as you lay to their charg Though they did as they do not yet that were no sufficient reason why you being pettye popes shoulde be maintained in a christian common-wealth Answeare the reasons that I brought against you otherwise Come off you bishops leaue your thousandes and content your selues with your hundreds saith Iohn of London So that you do plainly see that your Cooper T.C. is but a deceitful workeman and if you commit the hooping of your bishopricks vnto him they wil so leake in a short space as they shal be able to keepe neuer a Lord bishop in them And this may serue for an aunswere vnto the latter part of your booke by way of an Interim vntil more worke for Cooper be published Hay any worke for Cooper ANd now reuerend T.C. I am come to your epistle to the reader but first you I must go out alone into the plaine fields and there we wil try it out euen by plaine syllogismes and that I know bishops cannot abide to heare of The reuerend T.C. to the reader page 1. I draw great danger vpon my selfe in defending our bishops and others the chiefe of the clargy of the church of England Their aduersaries are very eger the saints in heauen haue felt of their tongs for when they speake of Paule Peter Marye c. whome others iustly call saints they in derision call them sir Peter sir Paule sir Marie Reuerend Martin Alas poore reuerende T.C. Be not afraid Heere be non but frends man I hope thou art a good fellow and a true subiect ye but I defend the bishops of the church of England saith he then in deed I maruell not though thy conscience accuse thee and thou art sure to be as wel fauoredly thwacked for thy lalour as euer thou wast in thy life Thy conscience I say must needs make thee feare in defending them For they are petty popes and petty Antichristes as I haue proued because they are pastor of pastors c. thou hast not answered my reasons and therefore swadled thou shalt be for thy paynes and yet if thou wilt yeeld I will spare thee Thou canst not be a good and a sound subiect and defend the hierarchy of Lorde bishopps to be lawful as I will shewe anone Concerning Sir Paul I haue him not at all in my writings And therefore the reader must know that there is a canterbury trick once to patch vp an acusation with a lye or two Sir Peter was the ouersight of the printer who omitted this Marginal note vz. He was not Saint Peter which had a lawfull superiour authority ouer the vniuersal body of the church And therfore the priest wherof Deane Iohn speaketh was Sir Peter And good reuerend T.C. I pray thee tel me what kin was Saint Mary Oueries to Mary the Virgin In my book learning the one was some popish Trull the other the blessed virgine But will you haue all those who are saints in deed called saints Why then why doe you not call saint Abraham saint Sara saint Ieremie If Iohn of Canterbury should marie tell me good T.C. dost thou not thinke that he would not make choyse of a godly woman I hope a would And T.C. though you are learned yet you go beyond your bookes if you saide the contrary being a godly woman then she were a sainte And so by your rule her name being Marie you would haue her called sainte Marie Canterburie But I promise thee did his grace what he could I would call her sir Marie Canterburie as long as he professed himselfe to be a priest and this I might do lawfully For he being sir Iohn why should not his wife be sir Marie And why not sir Marie Oueries as well as sir Marie Canterburie I hope Iohn of Canterburie whom I knowe though I know no great good in him to be as honest a man as M. Oueries was whom I did not know Neither is there any reason why you T.C. should holde M. Oueries and his Marie because they are within the diocesse of Winchester to bee more honest then M. Canterburie and his wife Naye there is more reason why M. Canterburie and his wife dwelling at Lambehith should be thought the honester of the two then Oueries and his wife because they dwel O the bankes side But good Tom tubtrimmer tell me what you meane by the chiefe of the cleargie in the Churche of England Iohn Canterburie I am sure Why good T.C. this speache is either blasphemous or traiterous or by your owne confession an euident proofe that Iohn of Canterburie is Lord ouer his brethren He that is chiefe of the cleargie is chiefe of Gods heritage and that is Iesus Christ only so to make the pope of Canterburie chiefe of Gods heritage in this sence is blasphemous If you meane by cleargie as Deane Iohn doeth page 443. of his booke both the people and ministers of the Churche of England in this sence her Maiestie is chiefe of the cleargie in the Church of England and so your speach is traiterous Lastly if by cleargie you mean the ministers of the Churche of England none in this sense can be chiefe of the cleargie but a pettie pope For our Sauiour Christe flatly forbiddeth anye to be chiefe of the cleargie in this sence Luke 22.26 And none euer claimed this vnto him selfe but a pettie pope Therefore T.C. you are either by your owne speach a blasphemer or a traitor or els Iohn of Cant. is a pettie pope Here is good spoonemeat for a Cooper Take heede of writing against Martin if you loue your ease Reuerend T.C. page 2. Epistle But I feare them not while I go about to maintain the dignitie of priests Reuerend Martin Well fare a good heart yet stand to thy tackling and get the high commission to send abroad the purciuants and I warrant thee thou wilt do something Alas good priests that their dignitie is like to fall to the ground It is pitie it should be so they are
these lawes vnles by vertue of them you meane eyther to enforce the supremacie of the prince to go again to Rome or to come to Lambeth It is treson by Statute for any subiect in this land to proceed doctor of the Canō law and dare you professe your church gouerment to be ruled by that law As though one statute might not refer all matters of the Canon law vnto the temporall common law of this Realme and is this all you can say T.C. Yes sayth he the gouernment of Christe would bring in the iudiciall law of Moses As much as is morrall of that law or of the equitie of it would be brought in And do you gainesay it But you sodden headed Asse you the most part of that law is abrogated Some part thereof is in force among vs as the punishment of a murtherer by death and presumptuous obstinate theft by death c. Hir Maiesties prerogatiue in ecclesiastical causes should not be a whit diminished but rather greatly strengthened by Christs gouernment And no lawe should be altered but such as were contrary to the lawe of God against the profit of the common wealth and therefore there can be no danger in altering these The ministers maintenance by tythe no puritane denieth to be vnlawfull For Martin good M. Parson you must vnderstand doth account no Brownist to be a puritane nor yet a sottish Cooperist The inconuenience which you shew of the gouerment which is that men would not be ruled by it is answered afore And I praye you why should they not be better obedient vnto Gods law if the same also were established by the lawe of the lande then to the Popes lawe and his Canons You think that all men are like your selues that is like bishops such as cannot chuse but breake the laws and good orders of God and her Maiestie The lawes of Englande haue bene made when there was neuer a bishop in the Parliament as in the first yere of her Maiestie And this reason as al the rest may serue to maintaine poperie as well as the hierarchie of Bb. The gouerment of the church of Christ is no popular gouernement but it is Monarchicall in regarde of our head Christ Aristocraticall in the Eldership and Democraticall in the people Such is the ciuill gouernement of our kingdome Monarchicall in her Maiesties person Aristocraticall in the higher house of Parliament or rather at the Councell table Democraticall in the bodie of the commons of the lower house of Parliament Therefore profane T.C. this gouernment seeketh no popularity to be brought into the Church much lesse entendeth the alteration of the ciuill state that is but your slaunder of which you make an occupation And I will surely paye you for it I must be brief now but more warke for Cooper shall examine your slaunders They are nothing else but prooffes that as by your owne confessions you are bishops of the Diuell so you are enemies vnto the state For by these slaunders you go about to blinde our state that they may neuer see a perfect regiment of the Church in our dayes I saye that by your owne confession you are bishops of the Diuell I will prooue it thus You confesse that your Lordly gouernment were not lawfull and tollerable in this cōmonwealth if her Maiesty the state of the land did disclaime the same Tell me doe you not confesse this Denie it if you dare For will you say that you ought lawfully to be here in our commonwelth whether her Maiesty and the Counsell wil or no Is this the thankes that her Maiestie shall haue for tollerating you in her kingdome all this while that nowe you will saye that you and your places stand not in this kingdome by her curtesie but you haue as good right vnto your places as she hath vnto her kingdome And by this meanes your offices stande not by her good liking and the good liking of the state as do the offices of our L. high Chancellor high Treasurer and high Steward of Englande But your offices ought to stand to be in force in spight of her Maiestie the Parliament Counsell and euerie man els vnles they woulde doe you iniury Soe that I know I you dare not deny but that your offices weare vnlawfull in our common wealth if her Maiestie the Parliament and the Counsell woulde haue them abollished If you grant this then you doe not hold your offices as from God but as from man Her maiestie she holdeth hir office and her kingdome as from God and is beholding for the same vnto no prince nor state vnder heuen Your case is otherwise for you hold your offices as from her Maiestie not from god For otherwise you needed not to be any more beholding vnto her Maiestie for the same in regarde of right then she is bounde to be beholding vnto other states in regarde of her right and so you in regarde of your Lordly superioritie are not the bishops of god but as Ierom sayth the bishops of man And this the most of you confes to be true and you see how dangerous it woulde be for you to affirme the contrary namely that you holde your offices as from god Well sir if you say that you are the bishops of man Thē tell me whether you like of Dean Iohn his booke T.C. 38. O yes sayth T.C. For his grace did peruse that book we know the sufficiencie of it to be such as the Puritans are not able to answere it Well then whatsoeuer is in this booke is authenticall It is so saith T.C. otherwise his grace would not haue alowed it What say you then to the 140. page of that booke where he saith answering the treatise of the bishop of God the bishop of Man and the bishop of the Diuell that there is no bishopp of man at all but euerie B. must be either the Bishopp of God or the Bishop of the Diuel He also affirmeth none to be the bishop of god but he which hath warrant both inclusiuely and also expresly in gods word Deane Iohn lib. 4. page 340. line 7. Now you Bishops of the Diuell what say you now are you spighted of the Puritans because you like good subiects dofend the lawes of her Maiestie or els because like incarnate Diuells you are bishops of the Diuells as you your selues confesse Here againe let the Magistrate once more consider what pestilent and daungerous beasts these wretches are vnto the ciuill state For either by their owne confession they are the Bishops of the Diuell and so by that means will be the vndoing of the state if they be continued therin or else their places ought to be in this commonwealth whether her Maiestie and our state will or no because they are not as they say the bishops of man that is they haue not their superioritie and their Lordly callings ouer their brethren by humane constitution as my LL. Chancellor Treasurer and other
allowed him page 63 And do so againe good Iohn of Rochester and it will be for thy credit Fo these puritans woulde finde fault I thinke with Iohn of Cant. if he beleeuing that Christe in soule went to Hell should holde it vnlawfull for a man to pray vnto Christe being in hell And sweet Iohn of Cant. if euer thou praiedst in thy life for any bodies souls now pray for thy brother D. Squire and Tarletons soules They were honest fellows though I think dean Iohns ears be longer For why good sweet Iohn may not your worship do this as well as William of Lincolne might pray that our soules should be with the soules of professed traiterous papists page 63. 64. The good B. of Winchester did not protest that at sir M. Oueries which was laid to his charge but he spake som things that way page 14. 65. 66. c. Wel brother Winchester you confesse the most part we wil beleeue the rest for your sake without witnes page 71. The B. of Winchester neuer said that it was an heresie to holde that the preaching of the worde was the only ordinarie means to saluation but inasmuch as Penri helde that the effect of saluation coulde not be wrought by the word read he said that was not far from heresie why brother Cooper what is this els but open confession For Iohn Penri as appeareth in his writings holdeth the word read to be no ordinary means of saluation at al. This I know you wil accoūt an heresie otherwise your case is damnable that cause the people to content themselues with reading hold that they may ordinarily be saued thereby page 72. 75. Yea but T. of Winchester disputed a M. of Art 45. yeare ago in diuinitie Here is an old lad once I hope that disputation was very cholerickly performed And he did once as prety a thing as that came to For once preaching at Canter he was disposed to note out T.C. I meane simple T.C. in his sermon his part he plaid after this sort He noted 4. great Hidraes of the gospell in his sermon 1. Carnall security 2. Heathnish gentility 3. Obstinat papistrie 4. saith he when I looke in his forehead I finde T. C. written therein which I cannot otherwise interpret then thankles curiositie thanklesse for the benefits already receiued more curious then needs in vain needles questions The old studēt did not know himselfe to be T.C. when he thus spake this is the thankles curiosity that hath answered Martin Yea he saw martins picture drawn when he was a yong man I perceiue then he was not blind as the old porter of Paddington whom Iohn of London be deaconed beminstrelled Lucian of Winchester himselfe was Nje painter Mydas of Cant. the iudge The one of the 2. womē caled ignorance was the good wife of Bath D. Culpable warden of new colledge the other called ielious suspicion was the fox Iohn of Exetor Thē came in Winkendeword allas D. Prime callumniator This Winken his L. of Winchester drew innotencie to wit Martin Marprelat gentleman by the haire of the head Then followed Dolus fraus insidiae To wit D. Perne D. Kenold D. Cosins The treader was cankered malice his eyes were fierie his face thinn withered pined away with melancholi this was D. Copcoat Then followed dolfull repentance that is dean Iohn repenting that euer he had writtē in the Bb. behalfe because his grace is not as good as his worde T.C. consider this picture vntill we meet againe Now my busines calleth me away I am trauelling towards Banbury for I here say that there hath bin old adoe For bakers daughters wold haue knights whether they would or no. I wil learne the trueth hereof and so I will post to Solihill visiting som parts of Stafford Warwick Northampton shires I will make a iourney backe againe to Norfolke and suffolke I haue a register at Burie by that time my visitors will be come out of Cornwall Deuon Hampshire And now fare thee well good profane T.C. I cannot now meddle with the long period which thou hast in the 33. 34. pag. of thy book it is but 38. lines thou art longer wided then Deane Iohn is I see though he hath longer periods then that which I set downe Whereas thou dost complaine that the liuings of our bishopps are so small that some of their children are like to go a begging There is a present remedy for that For to what end els is Iohn of Cant. vnmaried but to prouide for the bishops children who shal be poorly left Though in deed I neuer said in my life that there was euer any great familiaritie though I know there was some acquaintaunce betweene mistris Toye and Iohn Whitgift And I le befie em I le befie em that will say so of me And wherfore is Richard of Peterborowe vnmaried but to prouide for other mens children O now I remember me he has also a charge to prouide for his hostesse and cosin of Sibson The peticoat which he bestowed vpon her within this six moneths was not the best in England the token was not vnmeete for hir state Farewell farewell farewell olde Martin and keepe thee out of their handes for all that For thou art a shrewd fellowe thou wilt one day ouerthrow them Amen And then thou swearest by thy faith quoth Iohn of London Martin the Metropolitane to Iohn the Metropolitane sayth Nemo confidat nimium secundis Martin to his troubled sonnes sayth Nemo desperet meliora lapsus Anglia Martinis disce favere tuis Falts escaped Tytle line ten read Chaplaine hath shewed himselfe in his late Admonition as the people of England to be c. Epistle page third read Eulogein for Eulogeni Beare with the rest of the falts