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A17371 Maschil, or, A treatise to giue instruction touching the state of the Church of Rome since the Councell of Trent, whether shee be yet a true Christian church. And if she have denied the foundation of our faith. For the vindication of the right reuerend father in God, the L. Bishop of Exeter, from the cavills of H.B. in his book intituled The seven vialls. By Robert Butterfield Master of Arts, and minister of Gods Word. Butterfield, Robert. 1629 (1629) STC 4205; ESTC S120372 51,626 162

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MASCHIL OR A TREATISE TO GIVE INSTRVCTION TOUCHING The state of the CHURCH of ROME since the Councell of TRENT Whether shee be yet a TRVE Christian CHVRCH And if she have denied the FOVNDATION of our FAITH For the Vindication of the right Reuerend Father in God the L. Bishop of EXETER from the cavills of H. B. in his Book intituled The seven Vialls By ROBERT BVTTERFIELD Master of Arts and Minister of Gods Word IO● 32. 7. c. I ●●d dayes should speake and 〈…〉 of 〈◊〉 should 〈…〉 But there is a 〈…〉 the inspiration of the 〈…〉 〈…〉 wise neither 〈…〉 Therefore I said Heathen to me I also will sh●w 〈…〉 Printed by H. L. and R. T. for N. ●●●ter 16●9 〈…〉 ❧ To the Reuerend and Right Worshipfull Mr. Richard CHAMBER Dr. of Diuinity the E●courager of my Studie● and Abe●●or of my honest End●●uours Worthy Sir NEuer any man attained vnto Honour but Enuy folloued him close at the heels and those Actions which before were not onely plausible but commendable are now subiect to misconstruction I know not else ho● it should come to passe that that Reuerend Diuine whose worth all Learned men know and your selfe in particular haue often extolled should come now to bee taxed through the preposterous zeale of some men for publishing to the World that Truth which bee hath beene alwaies knowne to mainetaine and should be thought to fauour that errour which no man euer more masculinely opposed The haynous Crime which is layd to the charge of that worthy Bishop is this That he is of opinion that the Church of Rome notwithstanding her manifold and deplorable Corruptions cannot yet be truly said to bee all Errour no Church An afsertion as you know not infrequent in the writings of other learned men but if it chance to fall from the Penne of a Prelate hee is straight-way making a Wicket to let-in Popery But is the truth so Surely no but as the Doctor of the Gentiles was accused to teach that which ill-disposed men did gather by his Writings euen such is their case whose words shewing the right vertuous contentednesse of his minde Through Honour and Dishonour are a most fit Episcopall Emprese It was an acute Hook Eccles Polit. lib. 3 §. 1 demand of one who for his profound Wisedome and Iudgement was second to none that liued in the Age with him Whether if an Hereticke were persecuted to the death by an Infidell for his Christian Profession sake we could deny such a one the Name of a Martyr Now who knowes not that Martyrdome is an honour peculiar to ●he Church of God From whence if all Papists as some would haue it be● quite and cleane excluded to what end doe wee spend so much time in disputes with them about Christian Religion Why doe we trouble our selues more with them than with Iewes and Infidels who are altogether Aliens from the Church Or why doe wee rather take the Workes of Bellarmine than the Alcoran to confute But wherefore doe I anticipate seeing this is the subiect of the ensuing discourse but that the vertue of the Cause yeeldeth Arguments more than ●now For mi●e own part I entreat your self the World to excuse me that I could bee ●o longer patient when I s●e him whose meekenesse ●● such that although he desire● Peace with ●ll men yet disclaimes Peace with Rome who hath written such serious diss●●as●ues from Poperie who hath sent comfort to some ●n that Inquisition sand heartned them 〈…〉 Martyrdome who before the Reuer●nd Assembly of the Clergie in the Conuocation gathered together all hi● powers of Eloquence to perswade them to set themselues against that Tyberine Monster so ●ee calleth Poperie Concio ad Cle●um I say when I see him traduced as 〈◊〉 that would helpe Poperie 7. Vialls pag. 28. ouer the stile and censured as one whose * Charitie without zeale without sound Iudgement pag. 33. Charitie is told whose Iudgement ●nfound I must crea●e pardon if my 〈◊〉 within me worke a little though from Virulency of speech I promise to abstaine which as my disposition ab harreth so it cannot better my Nunquam melu●em caus●m f●cit dice●tis petula●tia sed ●epè peiorem l. our Val. Antidot in Pogium Couse and hee for whom I am entred into the Lists will not so bee defended who had rather put vp iniurie than eyther offer or requite any Now Reverend Sir if this imputation layd vpon the learned Bishop were the exception of one alone my labour might seeme superfluous for why should not one man dissent from another so that still the vnitie of the Spirit bee kept in the Bond of peace But the case is now otherwise for you are not ignorant that from him it is deriued to the People to whom the worthy Prelate is made odious and who thinke his Works vnworthy to be read any longer Neither is it needfull to vse force of reason to the Common s●●t for what is wa●ting in the weight of ●●ens speeches is supplyed in the apenesse of their mindes to receiue whatsoeuer is but probably tendred them against their Saperious and they account such men to carry singular freedome of minde whiles th●se that shall but vndertake their defence must encounter with many heauy preiudices rooted in mens mindes that they are Men-pleasers and Time-seruers Yet 〈◊〉 all thi● deterr● not from p●rsuing that which I haue taken in hand neither as I hope shall I 〈◊〉 any thing to the offence of any godly minded if besides the Reasons I alledge to fortifie the Cause it selfe they be pleased to consider what Reasons ●●d●ced me to stirre in this Ma●●er which are these The Truth suff●rs while 〈◊〉 obtruded and 〈◊〉 are vrged ●● embrace it in stead thereof The Church suffers 〈◊〉 her children ●re presented with 〈◊〉 opinion● in stead of her 〈◊〉 Te●e●ts Who though she● 〈◊〉 condemned all the ●rrours of ●●● Church of Rome yet 〈…〉 cont●m●lious against the Church it selfe The Reuerend Bishop suff●●● who 〈…〉 his gr●at deferning 〈…〉 Church our Mother 〈…〉 not ●o●●by to be 〈◊〉 the same day ●is Aduersary is spoken of And lastly d●● L●●●ned 〈◊〉 suffer whose 〈◊〉 fall 〈…〉 con●●●●led 〈…〉 Iudgment The Vindication of all these ● great 〈◊〉 ● th● 〈…〉 of many haue vnder ●●en and ●● ●umbly offer it to your Worships Patronage to whom I am so well ●nown● that what I am I made ●ot t●ll you not my other infor●●●ou what are my abilities and what my weaken●s●● is not hid from you Besides such is your loue towards me● that with a Fatherly affection you baue alwaies prosecuted mee as all know that know vs both Vt nihil à me tam Laurentius Valla. Epist ad Iohannem Tortellium exiguum profic●●ea●ur quod non tuo n●scio iudicio dicam an amori magnum esse videatur To your selfe therefore of right doth this Worke belong to whom though lowe more yea whatsoeuer I am able to doe yet
time deliuered vnder her authority To draw therfore to a conclusion since the Scriptures affirme that many of Gods people are in Babylo● and that Antichrist must sit in the Church of God since that Popery taketh not away from the foundation but addeth to it * ●●ndamento a● 〈…〉 ●a●it● no●●tium Caput 〈◊〉 v●i s●pra Vide Dr. Prid. ●●ct de ●isib ●●clesia whence nothing is more frequent with ou● Diuines than to tearme Popery ●octri●am addititiam and their Reli●ion Popish additaments and Aqui●●● who gaue the Pope power to ●ake a new Creede neuer thought ●hat he might abrogate the old for ●s much as they haue that Baptisme ●hich maketh them members of the ●ue Church and Orders so good ●hat wee neuer iterate them seeing ●hat when wee dispute against them ●ee acknowledge them to hold fun●amentall truth and that all our ●octors with an vnanimous consent ●ffirme so much and the sentence of ●ny one Classicall Author cannot be ●rought who affirmeth the contrary ●nd lastly seeing the Church our Mother imputeth vnto them errour ●nely in ●atters of Faith not abne●ation of the Faith it selfe we affirme ●hat the Church of Rome though otherwise wicked enough hath not ●et directly denyed the Founda●ion of Faith and therefore that wee cannot deny her the name of a Christian Church 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which is that we intended to proue The Second Part. Wherein the Reuerend Bishops Arguments are defended and Mr. Burtons Obiections answered CHAP. I. Containing an Introduction to the following discourse THere is in rectitude as the Philosopher wisely 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 noteth that perfection and beautie whereby we discerne both it selfe and whatsoeuer is contrary vnto it For hee that knowes what is straight doth euen perceiue thereby what is crooked because the absence o● straitnesse in bodies capable thereo● 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Ari●●●●e anima lib 1. is crookednesse yet because t● Iudge both of rectitude and obliq●tie is the Rule which all haue not t● skill few the will to apply it is necessarie sometimes to leaue the amiable discourse of truth and apply o● selues to set forth the knottinesse an● deformitie of error that error ma● yet be more abandoned and trut● more heartily embraced Wee suppose that wee haue alreadie not on●ly fortified the cause it selfe whic● wee tooke in hand with good a● solid reason but laid downe tho● rules also whereby whatsoeuer c● be probably obiected against th● truth may be fully answered ●● namely if we marke in what sen● we affirme the Church of Rome t● be a true Church in what respect s● is Babylon and in what consideration a true Church what it is to d●nie the foundation what likewis● to ouerthrow it and how farre ● Christian Church may ouerthrow it Yet to make the worke complete it will not bee amisse to examine the weight of those reasons which are opposed hereunto and to free the arguments already brought in defence not of the Romish Church or anie point of their Religion but of a true ●ssertion amongst Protestant Di●ines from the exceptions alledged against them And this we will doe Heb. 6. 3. ●f God permit Where by the way let mee aduer●ise that had the second Edition of ●he Reuerend Bishops booke * Of the old Religion I saw it not till I had quite finished the first part of this Treatise come sooner to my hands I thinke I had saued my paines and not proceeded ●hus farre not that I had not a good mind to the Bishops defence and yet haue but that it might seeme super●uous to adde to it vnreasonable to ●eply against it M. Burton as it is ●uident before the Edition of his booke saw and read the Reuerend Bishops Apologie wherein he sheweth that preferment hath not made him differ from what he was before nor self conceit to take vp a new opinion but loue of the truth to auer● that wherein he finds all Diuines t● conspire with him none gain sayin● him At M. Burtons hands he hath g●●ned nothing hereby but the opinio● of pertinacie added to his error ●● taketh him boldly by the sleeue an● calleth him to account not only f●● his former assertions but for his Apologie also how iustly we com● now to enquire CHAP. II M. Burtons method and manner of pr●ceeding 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Nazianzenus 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 All disputation consisting of tw● parts the confirmation of trueth an● the confutation of error the first o● these wee haue absolued the la●● now taketh place M. Burton tooke vpon him the interpretation of a portion of holy Scripture in the booke of the Apocalyps one of those two bookes which St. Austen said were reserued to be vnderstood in heauen The subiect of his discourse is the powring out of the 7. Vialls wherein The Cantic in the Old Testament and this in the New as if St. Iohn in the Spirit of prophecie had foreseene the errour of our most worthy Prelate and designed M. Burton for one of the 7 Angells he powreth out the second Viall wholly vpon him with how good successe let the euent decide In the meane while I shall returne him some of his owne dregges to drinke His proceeding is troublesome and tempestuous like the Sea one while affirming another while denying the same thing Scopae dissolutae Now he answers now he argues by by he declaimes altogether without order vt nec pes nec caput vni reddatur formae yet to reduce him to the best forme we can wee will obserue in his discourse these two parts 1. a generall proposition 2. the disputation it selfe In the first hee teacheth vs how to procced herein telling vs that it is a matter not to bee 7. Vialls Page 28. maintained by finenes of wit nor quaint Rhetoricall discourse but vpon sound ground and substantiall demonstration I need not tell you whom hee would decipher by this speech but I must needs wonder that hee is so witty at first and it calls to my remembrance the Infamous Paralle● written by Eudaemon Iohannes against the late Reuerend Bishop of Winchester wherein one maine head of hi● accusation against that worthie Prelate is that he was too conuersant i● the Comick writers his stile w●● Vid 〈◊〉 Tort●r ●orti too curious his Latine too neat fo● the Iesuits palate Thus M. Butr●● least the Bishop by his diuine Esoquence and accurate speech shoul● preuaile too farre with his Readers strikes first at that by disgrace tearming it finenesse of wit and quain● Rhetoricke little hurting his aduersarie therreby but singularly dishonouring Almightie God For whose are the Arts whose is Eloquence and vtterance who gaue man the wit and the braine Demand of all the faculties of the Soule and bodie whose Image and inscription they beare they will tell you Gods In as much therefore as you offer ●niurie vnto the least of these you do ●t vnto God But who sees not whereunto
the faith of euerie particular man much lesse is euerie Idiot chargeable with the dam●●blenesse of those doctrines Lastly saith he formerly the Church of Rome was the true Church but had in it a● Hereticall faction now the Church i● selfe is Hereticall and some certai●e onely are found in it in such degreey Orthodoxie as that wee may hope w●● of their saluation Loe Mr. Burt●● the Church of Rome is now Hereticall not no Church at all for Heresie as wee haue shewed taketh not away the being of a Church and there is hope of some mens saluation liuing in that Communion which you deny in euery page Thus the worthy Deane of Glocester hath not a word against vs but for vs and you are no lesse vnfortunate in your Authorities than before you were in your Similitudes Now vicem redde let vs be as much beholding to you as you are to vs and tell vs what you answer to those formall passages alledged out of the said Reuerend Author in his Appendix See our reuerend Bishops Apology to the Treatise of the Church where hee is clearly for vs That the Romish Church is a part of the Catholicke Church of God shewing it likewise to be the Tenent of the greatest Diuines of our side In this you are silent and passe it ouer siccopede with a dry foote as the Prouerb is And therefore whereas you afterwards tell vs of a many Shels in the pag. 46. Church of Rome the Shell of the Scriptures the Shell of the Creede the Shell of the Sacraments and the like you had done much better to fit downe and cracke nuts than to trouble the world with such empty discourse Nucleum amisit reliq●i● pignori put omina CHAP. VIII Mr. Burtons exceptions against so●e passages in the Reuerend Bishops Apologie THus Mr. Burton hauing done with the Reuerend Bishops Rhetoricall discourse hee comes to take notice of what he hath more seriously layd downe in an Apologeticall aduertisement ioyned to the second edition of his Booke And here whiles pag. ●● hee expects from the Bishop an ingenuous recantation of his errour lo● a constant asseueration of the truth and the Reuerend Bishop is heartily pitied that hee is not mutable But consider Mr. Burton that if hee had retracted that which you thinke his errour all your former paints had beene lost and for the rest how would you haue done for a genuine interpretation of St. Iohns meaning in the powring out of the second Viall As for your pity bestow it somewhere else he hath no neede of it rather pity your selfe that it was your lot to fall vpon so weake a cause and to meet with so strong an Aduersarie But let vs see what are his exceptions against the Reuerend Bishops second thoughts First it is not enough for Mr. Burton that hee thus distinguisheth referring Visible to outward Profession True to some essentiall Principles of Christianitie neither of them to soundnesse of beliefe that so though the Church of Rome be a true Visible Church yet is she not a true beleeuing Church Acutely and admirably What reasonable man would not this satisfie Why doth not this please him Because he denieth any being at all to her and pag. 48. that which is not is not Visible Thus nothing but the bloud the life of the Church of Rome will satisfie his zealous thirst But heare what hee obiects Vnder correction is outward Profession a sufficient Marke of Visibility for a Church Ridicule What is Visible in a Church but that which shee professeth Or if you will not referre Visible to outward Profession whereunto will you refer it But this is none of those Markes 〈◊〉 pag. 48. which the Church of England takes notice of a Church by The Word preached and the Sacraments administred make her a Church but her Profession makes her Visible But they are the Synagogue of Sathan which call themselues Iewes and are not and the Samaritans feared God but they serued Idols withall and so doth the Church of Rome therefore it followeth that shee neyther feareth God nor doth after his Lawes True it followeth very well Adde to this that which elsewhere you teach What is it generally to professe Christ and particularly 7. V●alls pa. 25. to haue no interest in him to professe the foundation but not to be built vpon it But all this while you are besides the cause here is an Homonymie you argue from the Church Visible to the Church Mysticall and Inuisible and fallacies Mr. Burton are no demonstrations Many things exclude a man from Heauen as well errours in manners as Faith which doe not exclude him from the Visible Church hee that would haue saluation by true Faith must be made a member of the Mysticall body of Christ Doth not the Reuerend Bishop tell vs that Visibilitie auaileth not to saluation and the Church of Rome that Their danger is more Visible th●n their Church Wherein then hath hee offended But to what purpose is it that you entertaine vs with a tedious discourse of the Visible Church all the while neyther telling vs what the Church is nor what is Visibilitie * Thus his d●spu●ing i● nothing but equiuocation all along by these ambiguous proceedings deceiuing the simple whereas a fair distinction if it might take place would make all friends Sometimes indeed you shew vs the Church clad in her glorious apparrell that thereby we may take notice of her but what if Briers rend her cloathes and dirt defile her goodly garments doth shee then cease to be a Church Surely no. Now it being obiected that the Church of Rome holdeth some Essentiall Principles of Christianity first you confesse it then contradicting pag. 4● your selfe you deny it saying That shee hath professedly abiured Christ thereby also gaine-saying what euen now you granted namely that she● professeth to feare God for how can shee professe to feare him and yet professedly abiure him CHAP. IX Whether Papists be Christians IN the next place Mr. Burton is so oppressed with the weight of the Bishops reasoning that hee sees not which way to turne himselfe Grant the Romanists to bee but Christians how corrupt soeuer and wee cannot deny them the name of a Church This is Gordians knot which because he cannot vntye Alexander-like hee cuts it But why should we grant them pag. 49 to bee Christians Not Christians Of what Sect then are they Iewes or Turkes or Pagans We know no other Sects in the world Nay they are worse than these yea worse than the Diuels themselues as hee affirmes in the next page I neuer yet heard by a sober man that any greater fault than Heresie was layd to their charge Now he that is an Hereticke is necessarily a Christian for he that is not a Christian cannot be an Hereticke Olim qui Haeretici non inter Tureas Epi●●o● Winton Tortura Torti pag. 304. aut Iudaeos aut Ethnicos censebantur neque nisi qui de