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c._n use_v to_o prove_v the_o perpetual_a equity_n etc._n etc._n of_o election_n by_o the_o people_n chap._n 5._o 170_o the_o diversity_n betwixt_o the_o apostle_n time_n &_o we_o require_v a_o diverse_a kind_n of_o government_n and_o of_o order_v of_o minister_n chap._n 6._o 174_o that_o bishop_n have_v authority_n to_o admit_v and_o ordain_v minister_n chap._n 7._o 194_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o the_o people_n shall_v have_v interest_n in_o the_o election_n of_o minister_n but_o the_o contrary_n be_v convenient_a chap._n 8._o 211_o tract_n 4._o of_o minister_n have_v no_o pastoral_a charge_n of_o ceremony_n use_v in_o order_v minister_n of_o apostle_n evangelist_n and_o prophet_n 216_o of_o minister_n admit_v a_o place_n be_v not_o void_a chap._n 1_o 216_o of_o ceremony_n use_v in_o ordain_v â—i_n nister_n chap._n 2._o 225_o of_o apostle_n evangelist_n and_o prophet_n chap._n 3._o 228_o tract_n 5._o of_o residence_n of_o the_o pastor_n chap._n 1._o 235_o of_o plurality_n 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wherewith_o the_o admonitor_n charge_v the_o apparel_n answer_v chap._n 7_o 283_o tract_n 8._o of_o archbishop_n metropolitans_n bishop_n archdeacon_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 297_o the_o reason_n of_o t._n c._n answer_v where_o by_o he_o go_v about_o to_o take_v away_o the_o superfluous_a lop_v as_o he_o term_v it_o of_o the_o office_n chap._n 1._o 297_o that_o the_o name_n of_o metropolitan_a archbishop_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o antichristian_a chap._n 2._o 318_o the_o office_n of_o archbishop_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o strange_a or_o unheard_a of_o in_o chri_n stes_fw-la church_n and_o of_o superiority_n among_o the_o clergy_n chap._n 3._o 353_o the_o defence_n of_o the_o answer_v of_o master_n jewel_n concern_v archbishop_n etc._n etc._n against_o the_o unreverend_a reply_n of_o t._n c._n chap._n 4_o 422_o the_o cause_n of_o archbishop_n and_o of_o their_o prerogative_n and_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o old_a bishop_n assign_v by_o t._n c._n examine_v chap._n 5._o 435_o other_o thing_n 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chap._n 4._o 511_o the_o sacrament_n minister_v by_o other_o than_o minister_n chap._n 5._o 515_o of_o private_a communion_n wherewith_o the_o admonition_n charge_v the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n chap._n 6._o 525._o of_o church_a of_o woman_n 534_o tract_n 10._o of_o holiday_n 538_o of_o holiday_n in_o general_a and_o that_o they_o may_v be_v appoint_v by_o the_o church_n and_o of_o the_o use_n of_o they_o chap._n 1._o 538_o of_o saint_n day_n chap._n 2._o 543_o tract_n 11._o what_o kind_n of_o preachinge_a be_v most_o effectual_a 555_o tract_n 12._o of_o preach_v before_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n 562._o tract_n 13._o of_o read_v of_o the_o scripture_n 568._o a_o comparison_n between_o read_v of_o scripture_n and_o preach_v chap._n 1._o page_n 568_o that_o read_n be_v preach_v chap._n 2._o pag._n 574_o the_o profit_n of_o read_v scripture_n in_o the_o church_n chap._n 3._o 578_o tract_n 14._o of_o minister_a and_o preachinge_a by_o deacon_n 582_o tract_n 15._o 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the_o deacon_n office_n but_o he_o that_o have_v a_o 20_o a_o rom._n 12._o 7._o 1._o cor._n 7._o 20_o office_n must_v look_v to_o his_o office_n and_o every_o man_n must_v keep_v himself_o within_o the_o bond_n and_o limit_n of_o his_o own_o vocation_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 126._o sect._n 2._o neither_o do_v we_o confound_v they_o and_o yet_o paul_n in_o the_o place_n by_o you_o quote_v in_o the_o margin_n speak_v not_o one_o word_n of_o confound_v or_o not_o confound_v these_o office_n so_o the_o poor_a be_v provide_v for_o it_o force_v not_o whether_o provision_n be_v make_v by_o deacon_n or_o by_o collector_n by_o the_o one_o it_o may_v be_v well_o do_v by_o the_o other_o it_o can_v be_v do_v in_o all_o place_n as_o the_o state_n be_v now_o but_o show_v any_o scripture_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o poor_a must_v only_o be_v provide_v for_o by_o deacon_n else_o not_o io._n whitgifte_n nothing_o answer_v to_o this_o ¶_o of_o the_o office_n of_o widow_n and_o their_o 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shall_v do_v some_o duty_n for_o it_o unto_o the_o church_n again_o than_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v at_o a_o new_a charge_n to_o find_v other_o to_o attend_v upon_o those_o which_o be_v sycke_n and_o destitute_a of_o keper_n see_v that_o there_o can_v be_v none_o so_o fit_v for_o that_o purpose_n as_o those_o woman_n which_o saint_n paul_n do_v there_o describe_v so_o that_o i_o conclude_v that_o before_o that_o this_o condition_n can_v agree_v with_o so_o precise_a commandment_n as_o you_o have_v make_v it_o before_o if_o such_o may_v be_v get_v we_o ought_v also_o to_o keep_v that_o order_n of_o widow_n in_o the_o church_n still_o i_o know_v that_o there_o be_v learn_v man_n which_o think_v otherwise_o but_o i_o stand_v upon_o the_o authority_n of_o god_n word_n and_o not_o upon_o the_o opinion_n of_o man_n be_v they_o never_o so_o well_o learned_a and_o if_o the_o matter_n also_o shall_v be_v try_v by_o the_o judgement_n of_o man_n i_o be_o able_a to_o show_v the_o judgement_n 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epistle_n to_o timothy_n be_v perpetual_a and_o must_v be_v keep_v under_o the_o great_a charge_n that_o be_v give_v unto_o timothy_n in_o the_o sixth_o chapter_n as_o you_o have_v before_o affirm_v then_o of_o necessity_n the_o church_n must_v needs_o still_o retain_v widow_n you_o know_v not_o in_o the_o world_n how_o to_o avoid_v this_o absurdity_n and_o therefore_o some_o time_n you_o say_v that_o now_o there_o be_v not_o so_o great_a use_n of_o they_o with_o we_o as_o there_o be_v in_o those_o place_n where_o the_o church_n be_v first_o found_v etc._n etc._n and_o by_o and_o by_o you_o begin_v to_o call_v that_o back_n and_o say_v that_o you_o do_v not_o see_v how_o a_o better_a and_o more_o convenient_a
eightenth_fw-mi chapter_n say_v that_o equal_a power_n and_o function_n be_v give_v unto_o all_o the_o minister_n of_o of_o the_o church_n and_o that_o from_o the_o begin_n no_o one_o prefer_v himself_o to_o a_o other_o save_v only_o that_o for_o order_n some_o one_o do_v call_v they_o together_o propound_v the_o matter_n that_o be_v to_o be_v consult_v of_o and_o gather_v the_o voice_n etc._n etc._n io._n whitgifte_n the_o word_n of_o the_o confession_n in_o the._n 17._o chapter_n be_v these_o true_o christ_n be_v present_a with_o his_o church_n and_o be_v a_o lyve_a head_n who_o straight_o forbid_v his_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n to_o challenge_v the_o primacy_n or_o supremacy_n in_o the_o church_n this_o the_o confession_n speak_v of_o such_o primacy_n &_o supremacy_n as_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n do_v challenge_v over_o the_o whole_a church_n for_o in_o that_o place_n it_o only_o speak_v of_o the_o pope_n usurp_a authority_n and_o not_o one_o word_n of_o that_o 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that_o seem_v to_o hinder_v the_o election_n of_o minister_n by_o the_o church_n and_o yet_o be_v there_o no_o such_o thing_n to_o be_v find_v in_o that_o oration_n pag._n 205._o 14_o he_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o the._n 6._o and._n 7._o book_n of_o eusebius_n for_o example_n of_o election_n of_o the_o people_n &_o clergy_n confirm_v by_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n namely_o in_o the_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n and_o yet_o be_v there_o no_o such_o example_n in_o those_o book_n neither_o any_o mention_n of_o any_o bishop_n of_o constantinople_n pag._n 207._o 15_o he_o father_v a_o manifest_a untruth_n upon_o eusebius_n lib._n 6._o touch_v origens_n admission_n into_o the_o ministry_n pag._n 209._o 16_o he_o leave_v out_o the_o word_n of_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n that_o open_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o council_n pag._n 222._o 17_o he_o again_o ascribe_v musculus_fw-la he_o word_n to_o jerome_n pag._n ead_n 18_o he_o deny_v that_o chrysostome_n make_v a_o 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that_o hierome_n and_o augustine_n speak_v of_o archdeacon_n in_o those_o place_n where_o they_o only_o speak_v of_o deacon_n pag._n 346._o 25_o the_o word_n of_o socrates_n be_v falsify_v pag._n 350._o 26_o he_o untrue_o report_v the_o word_n of_o cyprian_a pag._n 257._o 27_o he_o falsifi_v the_o meaning_n of_o tertullian_n allude_v that_o to_o ceremony_n that_o tertullian_n mean_v of_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o of_o salvation_n pag._n 370._o 28_o he_o keep_v back_o the_o word_n of_o theodoret_n that_o explain_v his_o meaning_n pag._n 412._o 29_o a_o untruth_n concern_v jereneus_n avouch_v out_o of_o the_o five_o book_n of_o eusebius_n cap._n 3._o &_o 4._o pag._n eadem_fw-la 30_o he_o pervert_v the_o word_n of_o the_o greek_a scholiast_n pag._n 413._o 31_o he_o avouch_v a_o untruth_n of_o theodoret._n pag._n 415._o 32_o he_o utter_v a_o very_a uncharitable_a untruth_n of_o the_o worthy_a man_n m._n jewel_n bishop_n of_o sarisburie_n pag_n 422._o 33_o he_o say_v that_o in_o the_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 304._o 663_o ¶_o the_o office_n of_o the_o speaker_n or_o mode_n rator_n 393_o ¶_o a_o spare_a restraint_n 490_o ¶_o superiority_n among_o the_o apostle_n pag._n 37_o superiority_n convenient_a among_o minister_n 388_o caluine_n allow_v superiority_n 390._o 467._o ¶_o superstition_n in_o garment_n condemn_v 277_o ¶_o the_o sword_n that_o christ_n send_v be_v not_o between_o the_o faithful_a 34_o the_o sword_n of_o discipline_n necessary_a pag._n 56_o ¶_o supremacy_n of_o the_o queen_n secret_o deny_v 801_o t_o ¶_o the_o feast_n of_o tabernacle_n observe_v since_o losua_fw-la 9_o ¶_o temple_n of_o idol_n convert_v to_o church_n 274_o ¶_o t._n c._n ascribe_v his_o own_o devise_n to_o the_o apostle_n 674_o t._n c._n make_v great_a account_n of_o the_o gonernment_n than_o of_o the_o gospel_n pag._n 7._o 82_o t._n c._n join_v with_o the_o papist_n concern_v the_o prince_n authority_n in_o ecclesiastical_a matter_n 7._o 377._o 694._o etc._n etc._n t._n c._n allege_v josias_n 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white_a hat_n but_o of_o any_o archiflamines_fw-la or_o protoflamine_n he_o make_v no_o mention_n at_o all_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v like_o that_o there_o be_v never_o any_o such_o office_n among_o the_o pagan_n io._n whitgifte_n whether_o there_o be_v such_o office_n among_o the_o gentile_n or_o no_o the_o matter_n be_v not_o great_a nor_o worthy_a of_o decide_v but_o that_o there_o be_v such_o it_o be_v manifest_a if_o any_o credit_n be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o so_o many_o history_n and_o writer_n both_o eccles_n asticall_a and_o profane_a archiflamin_a archiflamin_a not_o only_o those_o who_o you_o have_v report_v but_o gratian_n polydore_n and_o other_o but_o as_o a_o sufficient_a confutation_n of_o all_o this_o that_o you_o have_v here_o write_v and_o as_o a_o argument_n of_o your_o unskilfulnesse_n in_o story_n i_o will_v set_v down_o the_o word_n of_o master_n fox_n tom._n 1._o pag._n 146._o which_o be_v these_o let_v we_o return_v to_o eleutherius_fw-la the_o good_a bishop_n who_o 146._o m._n fox_n tom_n 1._o fol._n 146._o hear_v the_o request_n of_o the_o king_n and_o glad_a to_o see_v the_o godly_a towardness_n of_o his_o well_o dispose_v mind_n send_v he_o certain_a teacher_n and_o preacher_n call_v fugatius_n or_o by_o some_o fagamus_n and_o damianus_n or_o dimianus_n which_o convert_v first_o the_o king_n and_o people_n of_o britain_n and_o baptize_v they_o with_o the_o baptism_n and_o sacrament_n of_o christ_n faith_n the_o temple_n of_o idolatry_n and_o other_o monument_n of_o gentility_n they_o subvert_v convert_n the_o people_n from_o their_o diverse_a and_o many_o god_n to_o serve_v one_o live_v god_n thus_o true_a religion_n with_o sincere_a faith_n increase_v superstition_n decay_v with_o all_o rite_n of_o idolatry_n there_o be_v then_o in_o britain_n 28._o head_n priest_n which_o they_o call_v flamen_v and_o three_o archprieste_n among_o they_o which_o be_v call_v archiflamines_fw-la have_v the_o oversight_n of_o their_o manner_n as_o judge_n 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one_o against_o the_o other_o he_o that_o call_v a_o archbishop_n a_o bishop_n speak_v proper_o for_o so_o he_o be_v in_o the_o respect_n of_o his_o ministry_n and_o substance_n of_o his_o office_n the_o name_n of_o archebishop_n he_o have_v only_o in_o respect_n of_o order_n and_o policy_n archbishop_z and_o bishop_n be_v member_n of_o one_o division_n as_o chief_a justice_n and_o justice_n be_v every_o chief_a justice_n be_v a_o justice_n but_o every_o justice_n be_v not_o a_o chief_a justice_n even_o so_o every_o archbishop_n be_v a_o bishop_n but_o every_o bishop_n be_v not_o a_o archbishop_n neither_o be_v this_o such_o a_o strange_a division_n as_o you_o think_v it_o to_o be_v for_o aristotle_n do_v in_o like_a manner_n divide_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o regnum_n aristocratiam_fw-la &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v that_o which_o be_v common_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chap._n 2._o the._n 12._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 69._o sect._n 3_o and_o 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unprofitable_a to_o use_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n not_o only_o because_o the_o use_n thereof_o be_v very_o ancient_a but_o also_o because_o it_o have_v a_o express_a signification_n of_o the_o passion_n of_o christ_n so_o that_o it_o be_v pure_o understand_v and_o religious_o receyve_v without_o any_o superstition_n or_o servitude_n of_o the_o element_n or_o levity_n or_o common_a custom_n t._n c._n pag._n 135._o sect._n 3_o to_o prove_v cross_v in_o baptism_n m._n bucers_n authority_n be_v bring_v i_o have_v say_v before_o what_o injury_n it_o be_v to_o leave_v the_o public_a work_n of_o bucer_n and_o to_o fly_v unto_o the_o apochrypha_n wherein_o also_o they_o may_v drive_v we_o to_o use_v the_o like_a and_o to_o set_v down_o likewise_o his_o word_n which_o we_o find_v in_o his_o private_a letter_n but_o it_o be_v first_o of_o all_o to_o be_v observe_v of_o the_o reader_n how_o and_o
have_v your_o warning_n the_o place_n of_o one_o name_n for_o another_o be_v not_o so_o great_a a_o oversight_n but_o that_o it_o may_v sometime_o happen_v to_o those_o which_o be_v very_o circumspect_a and_o even_o unto_o yourself_o as_o josias_n for_o ezechias_n in_o the_o beginning_n *_o and_o gregory_n for_o george_n afterward_o so_o that_o herein_o you_o be_v not_o inferior_a to_o i_o and_o the_o ambrose_n pag._n 97._o sect._n 3_o ambrose_n one_o may_v well_o be_v set_v against_o the_o other_o but_o let_v these_o trifle_n go_v it_o be_v ambrose_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr officijs_fw-la cap._n 27._o who_o word_n be_v these_o let_v the_o bishop_n use_v the_o clerk_n and_o especial_o the_o minister_n which_o be_v indeed_o his_o son_n as_o his_o own_o member_n let_v he_o assign_v every_o one_o to_o that_o office_n whereunto_o he_o shall_v see_v he_o to_o be_v meet_v the_o part_n also_o of_o the_o body_n which_o putrify_v be_v with_o grief_n cut_v off_o and_o it_o be_v long_o look_v unto_o if_o it_o can_v be_v cure_v with_o medicine_n ▪_o but_o if_o it_o can_v they_o be_v it_o cut_v away_o by_o a_o good_a physician_n so_o it_o be_v the_o property_n of_o a_o good_a bishop_n that_o he_o be_v desirous_a to_o heal_v the_o weak_a to_o take_v away_o sore_n that_o creep_v on_o to_o burn_v some_o and_o not_o to_o cut_v they_o away_o last_o to_o cut_v away_o with_o grief_n that_o which_o can_v be_v cure_v chap._n 1._o the._n 12._o division_n t._n c._n page_n 148._o in_o the_o end_n of_o the._n 1_o sect._n to_o the_o rest_n i_o will_v answer_v with_o this_o pratestation_n that_o if_o all_o man_n shall_v do_v contrary_a to_o the_o order_n of_o god_n yet_o their_o authority_n or_o 〈◊〉_d ght_v not_o to_o have_v the_o weight_n of_o a_o feather_n which_o i_o have_v say_v before_o and_o do_v understand_v it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d where_o i_o do_v not_o express_v it_o and_o with_o this_o i_o come_v to_o master_n doctor_n authority_n io._n whitgifte_n this_o i_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v true_a ▪_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d you_o make_v this_o protestation_n before_o there_o be_v cause_n when_o any_o authority_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o order_n of_o god_n reject_v it_o and_o spare_v not_o but_o yet_o you_o must_v show_v we_o that_o 〈◊〉_d of_o god_n to_o the_o which_o it_o be_v trarie_a ▪_o chap._n 1._o the._n 13._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 113._o lin._n 5._o excommunicate_v theodorus_n alone_o excommunicate_v theodorete_a bishop_n of_o laodicea_n do_v by_o himself_o alone_o excommunicate_a both_o appolinary_n for_o keep_v company_n with_o that_o wicked_a sophister_n epiphanius_n as_o sozomenus_n write_v lib._n 6._o cap._n 25._o t._n c._n pag._n 148._o sect._n 2._o as_o for_o theodoretus_n bishop_n of_o laodicea_n which_o sozomene_n make_v mention_n of_o in_o his_o six_o book_n i_o find_v none_o such_o but_o there_o be_v mention_v of_o one_o theodotus_n who_o be_v say_v to_o have_v separate_v or_o excommunicate_v apollinaris_n but_o it_o do_v not_o appear_v there_o that_o he_o alone_o of_o his_o own_o authority_n do_v excommunicate_v he_o and_o there_o be_v great_a reason_n in_o that_o chapter_n to_o prove_v that_o he_o do_v it_o not_o of_o his_o own_o authority_n for_o immediate_o after_o his_o heresy_n be_v know_v damasus_n bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o peter_n bishop_n of_o alexandria_n cause_v a_o synod_n to_o be_v gather_v at_o rome_n where_o his_o heresy_n be_v condemn_v now_o for_o so_o much_o as_o the_o custom_n of_o synod_n and_o council_n be_v when_o they_o condemn_v the_o heresy_n to_o excommunicate_v the_o heretic_n heresy_n heretic_n you_o understand_v not_o the_o story_n for_o at_o this_o time_n apollinaris_n be_v not_o fall_v into_o his_o heresy_n it_o be_v to_o be_v think_v that_o that_o council_n do_v excommunicate_v he_o and_o that_o theodotus_n bishop_n of_o laodicea_n do_v execute_v that_o decree_n and_o excommunication_n and_o in_o deed_n sozomene_n do_v so_o expound_v himself_o when_o immediate_o after_o he_o have_v say_v that_o he_o do_v excommunicate_v he_o 〈◊〉_d he_o untruth_n for_o these_o word_n be_v not_o speak_v of_o theodorus_n but_o of_o georgius_n his_o 〈◊〉_d who_o excommunicate_v apollinaris_n the_o second_o 〈◊〉_d he_o add_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v that_o he_o declare_v he_o excommunicate_a which_o indeed_o proper_o belong_v to_o the_o minister_n when_o the_o excommunication_n be_v decree_v by_o those_o to_o who_o it_o appertain_v which_o thing_n may_v yet_o better_o appear_v by_o the_o manner_n of_o speech_n which_o be_v use_v in_o another_o place_n where_o speak_v of_o victor_n excommunicate_v theodotus_n he_o utter_v it_o by_o this_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v to_o promulgate_v or_o pronounce_v the_o sentence_n which_o be_v decree_v by_o other_o io._n whitgifte_n sozomene_n in_o that_o chapter_n do_v plain_o declare_v that_o both_o the_o apollinary_n be_v theodotus_n both_o the_o apollinary_n excommunicate_v by_o theodotus_n excommunicate_v by_o 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before_o i_o suppose_v that_o this_o heresy_n have_v not_o be_v raise_v of_o he_o so_o that_o you_o be_v far_o wide_a and_o give_v great_a suspicion_n that_o either_o you_o have_v not_o read_v the_o story_n or_o else_o of_o purpose_n mean_v to_o delude_v the_o reader_n the_o word_n that_o the_o story_n use_v to_o signify_v theodotus_n excommunicate_v they_o be_v these_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v separate_v they_o from_o the_o church_n the_o word_n which_o you_o have_v recite_v be_v not_o speak_v of_o theodotus_n but_o of_o george_n his_o successor_n who_o also_o do_v excommunicate_a apollinaris_n not_o both_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n as_o theodotus_n do_v but_o only_o the_o son_n as_o i_o have_v say_v before_o he_o fall_v into_o his_o heresy_n and_o therefore_o before_o he_o be_v condemn_v at_o rome_n so_o that_o he_o do_v not_o as_o you_o say_v execute_v the_o decree_n of_o that_o council_n but_o do_v himself_o excommunicate_a neither_o do_v the_o word_n help_v you_o one_o whit_n by_o any_o mean_n for_o what_o other_o thing_n can_v you_o gather_v thereof_o but_o that_o he_o pronounce_v the_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n against_o he_o even_o as_o it_o be_v the_o manner_n in_o our_o church_n though_o he_o be_v excommunicate_v by_o the_o same_o person_n only_o which_o pronounce_v the_o sentence_n and_o if_o that_o the_o right_n of_o excommunication_n have_v not_o be_v in_o george_n only_o why_o be_v there_o mention_n that_o he_o will_v by_o no_o mean_n be_v entreat_v to_o absolve_v he_o for_o i_o be_o sure_a that_o you_o will_v 29._o pag._n 147._o lin_v 29._o grant_v and_o indeed_o you_o have_v before_o so_o affirm_v that_o absolution_n be_v of_o the_o same_o quality_n in_o this_o respect_n with_o excommunication_n and_o it_o be_v there_o witness_v that_o apollinaris_n do_v oftentimes_o desire_v he_o to_o receyve_v he_o again_o into_o the_o fellowship_n of_o the_o church_n so_o that_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o in_o those_o day_n the_o bishop_n 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