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book_n	bishop_n	church_n	king_n	3,230	5	3.5319	3	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A02568	The peace of Rome Proclaimed to all the world, by her famous Cardinall Bellarmine, and the no lesse famous casuist Nauarre. Whereof the one acknowledgeth, and numbers vp aboue three hundred differences of opinion, maintained in the popish church. The other confesses neere threescore differences amongst their owne doctors in one onely point of their religion. Gathered faithfully out of their writings in their own words, and diuided into foure bookes, and those into seuerall decads. Whereto is prefixed a serious disswasiue from poperie. By I.H.	Azpilcueta, Martín de, 1492?-1586.; Hall, Joseph, 1574-1656.; Bellarmino, Roberto Francesco Romolo, Saint, 1542-1621. Disputationes de controversiis Christianae fidei. English. Selections.	1609 (1609)	STC 12696; ESTC S106027	106,338	252

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jurisdiction_n and_o somewhat_o more_o but_o this_o doctrine_n seem_v to_o we_o more_o subtle_a than_o true_a for_o it_o be_v never_o hear_v of_o that_o the_o church_n have_v any_o other_o key_n beside_o those_o of_o order_n and_o jurisdiction_n bellarm._n 1._o book_n of_o the_o pope_n ch_n 12._o pag._n 101._o five_o joachim_n raymundus_n a_o nameless_a frenchman_n against_o all_o catholic_n that_o there_o be_v three_o eternal_a spirit_n etc._n father_n son_n holy_a ghost_n essential_o differ_v be_v teach_v by_o a_o certain_a frenchman_n in_o anselmes_n time_n and_o the_o same_o seem_v to_o be_v hold_v by_o joachim_n the_o abbot_n in_o the_o year_n 1190._o and_o raymundus_n lullius_n in_o the_o year_n 1270._o confute_v by_o bellarmine_n in_o his_o first_o book_n de_fw-fr christo._n cha_n 2._o pag._n 37._o six_o erasmus_n confute_v by_o bellarmine_n bellarmines_n disputation_n against_o the_o transsiluani_n etc._n and_o erasmus_n as_o their_o patron_n concern_v the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n warrant_v from_o diverse_a place_n of_o scripture_n see_v bell._n l._n 1._o de_fw-fr christo._n ch_z 6._o pag._n 72.73_o seven_o bellarmine_n against_o durandus_fw-la the_o four_o error_n be_v of_o durandus_fw-la in_o 3._o d._n 22._o q._n 3._o who_o teach_v &c_n that_o christ_n soul_n descend_v not_o to_o hell_n in_o substance_n but_o only_o in_o certain_a effect_n because_o it_o do_v illuminate_v those_o holy_a father_n which_o be_v in_o limbo_n which_o opinion_n to_o be_v erroneous_a and_o yet_o not_o so_o ill_a as_o caluin_n be_v prove_v by_o four_o argument_n and_o all_o his_o objection_n answer_v by_o bellarm._n l._n 4._o de_fw-la christo_fw-la ch_n 15._o pag._n 391.392_o etc._n etc._n eight_o bonaventure_n against_o thomas_n saint_n thomas_n p._n 3._o q._n 52._o art_n 2._o teach_v etc._n that_o christ_n by_o his_o real_a presence_n descend_v but_o to_o limbus_n patrum_fw-la and_o in_o effect_n only_o to_o the_o other_o place_n of_o hell_n but_o it_o be_v probable_a that_o his_o soul_n descend_v to_o all_o second_o saint_n thomas_n seem_v to_o say_v p._n 3._o q._n 52._o be_v 1._o that_o it_o be_v some_o punishment_n to_o christ_n to_o be_v in_o hell_n according_a to_o his_o soul_n etc._n etc._n and_o cajetan_n in_o act_n 2._o say_v that_o the_o sorrow_n of_o christ_n death_n continue_v in_o he_o till_o his_o resurrection_n in_o regard_n of_o three_o penalty_n whereof_o the_o second_o be_v that_o the_o soul_n remain_v in_o hell_n a_o place_n not_o convenient_a for_o it_o but_o bonavent_a in_o 3._o d._n 22._o q._n 4._o say_v that_o christ_n soul_n while_o it_o be_v in_o hell_n be_v in_o the_o place_n of_o punishment_n indeed_o but_o without_o punishment_n which_o seem_v to_o i_o more_o agreeable_a to_o the_o father_n bellarm._n l._n 4_o de_fw-fr christo._n c._n 16._o p._n 396.397_o etc._n etc._n nine_o bellarmine_n and_o all_o other_o papist_n against_o lyranus_fw-la nicolaus_n lyranus_fw-la be_v not_o of_o so_o great_a authority_n that_o we_o shall_v oppose_v he_o to_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o historian_n etc._n which_o say_v that_o peter_n be_v slay_v at_o rome_n not_o as_o lyranus_fw-la at_o jerusalem_n bellarm._n l._n 2._o of_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n ch_n 10._o pag._n 210._o ten_o aeneas_n silvius_n confute_v by_o bellarmine_n etc._n that_o speech_n of_o aeneas_n silvius_n afterward_o pope_n that_o before_o the_o nicene_n council_n each_o man_n live_v to_o himself_o and_o there_o be_v small_a respect_n have_v of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v partly_o true_a and_o partly_o false_a it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o power_n of_o the_o pope_n be_v somewhat_o in_o those_o time_n hinder_v but_o it_o be_v not_o true_a that_o there_o be_v so_o little_a respect_n give_v he_o bellarm._n l._n 2._o de_fw-fr pontif._n c._n 17._o pag_n 252._o decad_n iii_o first_o martinus_n polonus_n confute_v by_o bellarmine_n the_o confutation_n of_o martinus_n polonus_n which_o live_v an._n 1250._o in_o that_o story_n

there_o be_v no_o other_o receptacle_n beside_o the_o four_o mention_v and_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n ses._n ult._n define_v amaenum_fw-la that_o the_o soul_n which_o have_v nothing_o to_o be_v purge_v be_v straight_o take_v into_o heaven_n on_o the_o other_o side_n beda_n in_o his_o 5._o book_n c._n 13._o tell_v of_o a_o very_a probable_a vision_n which_o he_o doubt_v not_o to_o believe_v wherein_o be_v show_v to_o a_o certain_a soul_n which_o after_o return_v to_o the_o body_n beside_o hell_n purgatory_n and_o heaven_n a_o goodly_a flourish_a pleasant_a light-some_a and_o sweet_a meadow_n wherein_o live_v those_o soul_n which_o suffer_v nothing_o but_o only_o stay_v there_o because_o they_o be_v not_o yet_o fit_a for_o heaven_n and_o diverse_a such_o vision_n be_v bring_v by_o dionysius_n cart●_n &_o greg._n honoratus_fw-la and_o it_o seem_v to_o i_o not_o unprobable_a that_o such_o a_o place_n there_o be_v to_o be_v find_v which_o belong_v to_o purgatory_n for_o though_o there_o be_v no_o punishment_n of_o pain_n yet_o of_o loss_n there_o be_v therefore_o this_o place_n be_v a_o mild_a kind_n of_o purgatory_n and_o as_o it_o be_v a_o more_o gentlemanlike_a and_o honourable_a prison_n bellarm._n ibid._n c._n 7._o p._n 123._o three_o alphonsus_n ciaconus_fw-la against_o melchior_n canus_n and_o dominicus_n a_o soto_n if_o this_o history_n of_o trajan_n shall_v be_v defend_v etc._n we_o must_v say_v that_o trajan_n be_v not_o absolute_o condemn_v to_o hell_n but_o only_o punish_v in_o hell_n according_a to_o his_o present_a demerit_n and_o that_o the_o sentence_n be_v suspend_v by_o reason_n of_o gregory_n prayer_n foresee_v by_o god_n and_o therefore_o that_o he_o be_v not_o immediate_o translate_v from_o hell_n to_o heaven_n but_o first_o unite_v to_o the_o body_n then_o baptize_v and_o then_o that_o he_o do_v penance_n in_o this_o life_n and_o this_o be_v the_o common_a answer_n of_o s._n thomas_n durand_n richard_n and_o other_o but_o i_o rather_o incline_v to_o the_o opinion_n of_o melchior_n canus_n which_o simple_o reject_v this_o history_n as_o feign_a and_o of_o dominicus_n a_o soto_n notwithstanding_o the_o apology_n which_o alphonsus_n ciaconus_fw-la have_v 3._o year_n ago_o publish_v for_o this_o story_n bel._n ib._n c._n 8._o p._n 124._o four_o sotus_n abulensis_n thomas_n richardus_fw-la and_o durandus_fw-la differ_v of_o the_o damn_a i_o say_v etc._n that_o he_o that_o be_v absolute_o damn_v to_o eternal_a punishment_n can_v be_v recall_v to_o life_n for_o then_o the_o damnation_n of_o the_o wicked_a shall_v be_v uncertain_a against_o this_o opinion_n be_v abulensis_n quaest_n 57_o in_o the_o four_o book_n of_o the_o king_n to_o the_o instance_n bring_v sotus_n answer_v that_o those_o heathen_n be_v only_o invincible_o ignorant_a and_o therefore_o in_o purgatory_n but_o i_o say_v that_o those_o which_o be_v raise_v though_o they_o do_v deserve_v eternal_a damnation_n yet_o be_v not_o condemn_v but_o that_o their_o judgement_n be_v suspend_v 45._o and_o that_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n they_o be_v punish_v according_a to_o their_o present_a injustice_n so_o hold_v saint_n thomas_n richardus_fw-la durand_n and_o other_o bellarm._n ibid._n c._n 8._o pag._n 133._o five_o bellarmine_n against_o dominicus_n a_o soto_n beside_o these_o error_n etc._n it_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o dominicus_n a_o soto_n upon_o the_o 4._o send_v do_v 19_o q._n 3._o art_n 2._o that_o no_o man_n remain_v ten_o year_n in_o purgatory_n who_o see_v how_o bellarmine_n confute_v by_o reason_n by_o vision_n by_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n bellarmine_n ibid._n c._n 9_o pag._n 133._o six_o thomas_n and_o the_o schoolman_n against_o the_o vision_n of_o bede_n and_o carthusian_n concern_v the_o three_o doubt_n etc._n '_o it_o be_v altogether_o uncertain_a for_o that_o the_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n be_v punish_v neither_o by_o devil_n nor_o by_o angel_n but_o by_o fire_n only_o be_v teach_v by_o the_o schoolman_n as_o thomas_n upon_o 4._o do_v 20._o art_n 5._o on_o the_o other_o part_n that_o the_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n be_v punish_v by_o devil_n be_v teach_v by_o many_o revelation_n as_o that_o of_o s._n fursaeus_n in_o beda_n l._n 3._o hist._n c._n 19_o and_o other_o in_o dionysius_n carthusian_n in_o his_o book_n the_o 4._o novissimis_fw-la bellarm._n ibid._n c._n 13._o p._n 137._o seven_o bonaventure_n against_o thomas_n although_o all_o man_n grant_v in_o some_o sort_n etc._n that_o the_o punishment_n or_o pain_n of_o purgatory_n be_v great_a than_o the_o pain_n of_o this_o life_n yet_o it_o be_v doubtful_a how_o this_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v for_o saint_n thomas_n teach_v two_o thing_n first_o that_o the_o pain_n of_o loss_n be_v the_o great_a of_o all_o pain_n whether_o in_o purgatory_n or_o in_o this_o life_n second_o that_o the_o least_o pain_n of_o purgatory_n be_v great_a than_o all_o the_o pain_n of_o this_o life_n but_o bonaventure_n in_o 4._o do_v 20._o art_n 1._o teach_v first_o that_o the_o pain_n of_o loss_n in_o purgatory_n be_v not_o great_a than_o every_o pain_n whether_o of_o purgatory_n or_o of_o this_o life_n second_o he_o teach_v that_o the_o pain_n of_o purgatory_n be_v great_a than_o the_o pain_n of_o this_o life_n only_o in_o this_o sense_n because_o the_o great_a pain_n of_o purgatory_n be_v great_a than_o the_o great_a pain_n of_o this_o life_n although_o there_o be_v find_v some_o other_o punishment_n in_o purgatory_n less_o than_o some_o punishment_n in_o this_o life_n which_o opinion_n please_v i_o best_o for_o etc._n etc._n bellarm._n ibid._n cap._n 14._o pag._n 138._o eight_o dominicus_n a_o soto_n against_o petr._n cluniacensis_fw-la neither_o ought_v any_o man_n to_o doubt_n etc._n but_o that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o depart_a saint_n which_o reign_n with_o christ_n do_v pray_v for_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o saint_n which_o be_v in_o purgatory_n the_o contrary_n whereof_o be_v rash_o affirm_v by_o dominicus_n a_o soto_n b._n 4_o scent_n do_v 45._o qu._n 3._o art_n 2._o who_o bellar._n confute_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o petrus_n cluniacensis_fw-la saint_n austen_n and_o last_o of_o the_o whole_a church_n who_o in_o that_o prayer_n which_o begin_v god_n the_o giver_n of_o pardon_n beseech_v god_n that_o by_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n mary_n and_o all_o saint_n the_o soul_n of_o the_o depart_a may_v come_v to_o the_o fellowship_n of_o eternal_a happiness_n bellarm._n ibid._n c._n 15._o p._n 141._o nine_o saint_n thomas_n against_o pet._n damian_n and_o bellarmine_n that_o the_o dead_a do_v good_a to_o the_o live_n etc._n it_o be_v manifest_a for_o 2._o macab_n 15._o we_o read_v that_o onias_n and_o hieremias_n long_v before_o depart_v be_v see_v to_o pray_v for_o the_o people_n of_o the_o jew_n then_o alive_a neither_o be_v it_o incredible_a that_o even_o the_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n do_v pray_v for_o we_o and_o prevail_v since_o that_o the_o soul_n of_o paschasius_fw-la and_o severinus_fw-la though_o in_o purgatory_n wrought_v miracle_n as_o appear_v by_o gregory_n b._n 4._o of_o dialog_n ch_n 40._o and_o peter_n damian_n in_o a_o epistle_n of_o the_o miracle_n of_o his_o time_n and_o though_o saint_n thomas_n in_o 2.2_o q._n 83._o art_n 3._o teach_v the_o contrary_a yet_o his_o reason_n prove_v nothing_o etc._n etc._n but_o although_o this_o be_v true_a yet_o it_o seem_v superfluous_a for_o we_o to_o sue_v to_o they_o that_o they_o may_v pray_v for_o we_o because_o they_o can_v ordinary_o know_v what_o we_o do_v in_o particular_a but_o only_o in_o common_a know_v that_o we_o be_v in_o many_o danger_n etc._n etc._n bellarm._n ibid._n c._n 15._o p._n 142._o ten_o dominicus_n a_o soto_n against_o many_o vision_n and_o saint_n brigit_fw-la one_o doubt_n remain_v etc._n whether_o the_o restitution_n of_o a_o thing_n detain_v profit_v the_o dead_a and_o so_o become_v a_o four_o kind_n of_o suffrage_n for_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o depart_a be_v say_v to_o have_v often_o appear_v and_o entreat_v for_o restitution_n of_o those_o thing_n which_o either_o they_o have_v forget_v or_o can_v not_o restore_v and_o saint_n brigit_fw-la in_o her_o 6._o b._n of_o revelation_n ch_n 66._o affirm_v that_o the_o soul_n be_v so_o long_o torment_v till_o that_o which_o be_v unjust_o take_v away_o be_v restore_v dominicus_n a_o soto_n upon_o 4._o do_v 45._o q._n 2._o art_n 3._o hold_v that_o such_o restitution_n if_o it_o be_v make_v avail_v nothing_o nor_o hinder_v nothing_o if_o un-made_a for_o god_n punish_v not_o but_o for_o our_o own_o fault_n commit_v in_o our_o life_n time_n as_o to_o those_o apparition_n i_o answer_v that_o perhaps_o those_o soul_n do_v not_o desire_v restitution_n as_o it_o be_v restitution_n but_o as_o a_o alm_n for_o although_o it_o do_v not_o benefit_n the_o soul_n that_o he_o restore_v which_o be_v bind_v to_o restore_v it_o yet_o it_o will_v much_o profit_v