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c._n 4._o see_v d._n aug._n ad_fw-la pollent_fw-la l._n 1._o c._n 26._o tom._n 6._o col_fw-fr 854._o and_o that_o be_v in_o a_o high_a fever_n and_o in_o a_o deadly_a sweat_n give_v over_o for_o life_n and_o utter_o ignorant_a of_o what_o be_v do_v that_o the_o baptism_n administer_v to_o this_o person_n be_v it_o after_o what_o manner_n it_o will_v or_o can_v be_v a_o baptism_n be_v clear_o intimate_v by_o st._n augustin_n while_o he_o say_v express_o of_o he_o baptizatus_fw-la est_fw-la he_o be_v baptize_v but_o whether_o this_o baptism_n be_v administer_v by_o a_o total_a dip_v of_o the_o person_n under_o these_o circumstance_n in_o his_o sickness_n in_o a_o high_a fever_n in_o a_o deadly_a sweat_n give_v over_o for_o life_n past_a sense_n or_o whether_o he_o be_v not_o rather_o baptize_v by_o sprinkle_v of_o water_n upon_o he_o i_o leave_v even_o to_o the_o most_o prejudicate_v reader_n in_o the_o world_n to_o judge_v §_o 55._o the_o same_o st._n augustin_n while_o bishop_n of_o 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consuctudo_fw-la sic_fw-la habet_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la soleat_fw-la alibi_fw-la nisi_fw-la in_o sacramento_n regenerationis_fw-la intelligi_fw-la nihil_fw-la horum_fw-la dicere_fw-la voluisti_fw-la sed_fw-la elegisti_fw-la verbum_fw-la quo_fw-la fieret_fw-la contemptibile_fw-la quod_fw-la dicebas_fw-la nemo_fw-la enim_fw-la legentium_fw-la praeferre_fw-la potest_fw-la natum_fw-la renato_fw-la vel_fw-la regenerato_fw-la vel_fw-la baptizato_fw-la sed_fw-la facilè_fw-la putâsti_fw-la natum_fw-la praeferri_fw-la posse_fw-la perfuso_fw-la si_fw-mi autem_fw-la quantum_fw-la distat_fw-la coelum_fw-la &_o terra_fw-la tanto_fw-la melius_fw-la est_fw-la perfundi_fw-la ut_fw-la portetur_fw-la hominis_fw-la imago_fw-la coelestibus_fw-la quà m_fw-la nasci_fw-la ut_fw-la portetur_fw-la hominis_fw-la imago_fw-la terreni_fw-la evanuit_fw-la jam_fw-la tua_fw-la ista_fw-la invidiosa_fw-la partitio_fw-la neque_fw-la enim_fw-la mirandum_fw-la est_fw-la si_fw-la coelestibus_fw-la hominis_fw-la imaginem_fw-la quae_fw-la sacrâ_fw-la perfusione_n suscipitur_fw-la sibi_fw-la vendicat_fw-la deus_fw-la etc._n etc._n d._n aug._n contr_n julian_n pelag._n c._n 4._o tom._n 7._o col_fw-fr 1110._o tell_v he_o that_o this_o word_n baptizari_fw-la though_o original_o greek_a yet_o be_v by_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o latin_n appropriate_v to_o the_o sacrament_n of_o regeneration_n will_v be_v out_o of_o doubt_n that_o baptism_n be_v administer_v in_o those_o day_n by_o way_n of_o perfusion_n pour_v or_o shed_v on_o of_o water_n for_o wherein_o else_o can_v that_o appellation_n be_v found_v and_o st._n augustin_n that_o find_v fault_n with_o his_o use_n of_o that_o word_n only_o because_o not_o so_o customary_o apply_v to_o the_o thing_n as_o baptism_n be_v will_v not_o have_v fail_v to_o have_v find_v fault_n with_o he_o if_o there_o have_v be_v no_o such_o thing_n in_o use_n as_o be_v signify_v by_o that_o word_n §_o 57_o and_o that_o baptism_n be_v perform_v in_o those_o day_n not_o 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fonte_fw-la demersimus_fw-la p._n lomb._n l._n 4._o do_v 3._o tit._n de_fw-fr immersione_n or_o as_o gratian_n report_v it_o postquam_fw-la vos_fw-la credere_fw-la promisistis_fw-la capita_fw-la vestra_fw-la which_o read_v i_o rather_o approve_v of_o gratian._n de_fw-mi consecr_n do_v 4._o sol_fw-la 449._o col_fw-fr 4._o but_o that_o there_o may_v be_v baptizing_n of_o person_n in_o that_o age_n by_o a_o total_a immersion_n of_o they_o yet_o what_o peter_n lombard_n quote_v from_o st._n augustin_n seem_v to_o intimate_v it_o to_o have_v be_v a_o fashion_n also_o to_o baptize_v not_o by_o a_o total_a immersion_n of_o the_o whole_a person_n but_o by_o a_o demersion_n of_o the_o head_n of_o the_o party_n baptize_v after_o that_o we_o have_v profess_v ourselves_o to_o believe_v we_o do_v three_o time_n demerse_v or_o dip_v our_o head_n in_o the_o holy_a font._n so_o he_o §_o 59_o contemporary_a with_o st._n augustin_n and_o even_o in_o both_o the_o century_n be_v paulinus_n bishop_n of_o 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common_a practice_n in_o those_o day_n and_o therefore_o they_o earnest_o urge_v it_o and_o plead_v for_o it_o yet_o do_v they_o not_o hold_v sprinkle_v to_o be_v unlawful_a especial_o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n of_o weakness_n danger_n of_o death_n or_o where_o conveniency_n of_o immerge_v can_v not_o be_v have_v in_o these_o and_o such_o like_a case_n cyprian_a do_v not_o only_o allow_v 153._o ep._n 76._o ad_fw-la magn._n p._n 153._o but_o plead_v for_o it_o and_o that_o in_o a_o discourse_n on_o purpose_n when_o the_o question_n concern_v it_o be_v put_v to_o he_o upon_o this_o account_n it_o be_v that_o immersion_n be_v general_o disuse_v in_o these_o part_n of_o the_o world_n and_o sprinkle_v succeed_v in_o its_o room_n because_o the_o tender_a body_n of_o most_o infant_n the_o only_a person_n now_o baptize_v can_v not_o be_v put_v under_o water_n in_o the_o cold_a northern_a climate_n without_o apparent_a prejudice_n to_o their_o health_n if_o not_o their_o life_n and_o therefore_o in_o this_o as_o in_o other_o case_n god_n require_v mercy_n rather_o than_o sacrifice_n especial_o consider_v that_o the_o main_a end_n of_o baptism_n be_v attain_v this_o way_n and_o the_o mystical_a effect_n of_o it_o as_o true_o though_o not_o so_o plain_o and_o significant_o represent_v by_o sprinkle_v as_o by_o put_v the_o body_n under_o water_n §_o 4._o in_o which_o discourse_n of_o his_o these_o remark_n be_v so_o obvious_a that_o it_o be_v loss_n i_o fear_v of_o time_n to_o take_v notice_n of_o they_o to_o the_o reader_n 1._o that_o the_o practice_n of_o dip_v be_v but_o almost_o and_o be_v not_o absolute_o universal_a in_o the_o primitive_a time_n 2._o that_o sprinkle_v be_v not_o
when_o this_o be_v do_v the_o improbability_n or_o rather_o impossibility_n of_o it_o will_v still_o the_o more_o appear_v it_o be_v when_o his_o strength_n be_v go_v when_o he_o be_v a_o old_a man_n and_o near_o his_o death_n for_o the_o very_a next_o thing_n that_o our_o author_n mention_n of_o he_o after_o his_o performance_n of_o this_o great_a baptism_n be_v his_o perceive_v his_o end_n to_o draw_v near_o have_v he_o have_v the_o strength_n of_o samson_n such_o a_o day_n work_v as_o the_o total_a dip_v of_o ten_o thousand_o man_n have_v be_v enough_o to_o have_v tire_v he_o to_o the_o death_n how_o much_o more_o unable_a be_v a_o old_a man_n with_o one_o foot_n in_o his_o grave_n to_o go_v through_o such_o a_o service_n and_o if_o it_o be_v argue_v from_o the_o inability_n of_o all_o the_o minister_n of_o a_o whole_a city_n to_o baptize_v by_o dip_v but_o so_o many_o as_o come_v to_o be_v baptize_v at_o the_o mother_n church_n only_o on_o one_o of_o the_o three_o solemn_a time_n of_o the_o year_n that_o because_o the_o greatness_n of_o the_o work_n of_o lift_v of_o so_o many_o into_o and_o out_o of_o the_o font_n exceed_v the_o strength_n of_o the_o baptizer_n therefore_o they_o baptize_v by_o sprinkle_v how_o much_o more_o may_v it_o be_v argue_v from_o the_o insufficiency_n of_o one_o old_a and_o consequent_o a_o weak_a man_n for_o the_o total_a immersion_n of_o so_o many_o as_o ten_o thousand_o at_o once_o that_o he_o do_v it_o not_o by_o dip_v but_o by_o sprinkle_v §_o 32._o and_o yet_o three_o if_o we_o consider_v the_o time_n of_o the_o year_n when_o this_o be_v say_v to_o be_v do_v it_o will_v still_o render_v it_o more_o improbable_a or_o rather_o impossible_a it_o be_v on_o no_o other_o than_o christmass-day_n ancient_o call_v midwinter-day_n it_o can_v i_o think_v be_v well_o imagine_v how_o one_o man_n shall_v total_o dip_v another_o in_o a_o river_n who_o be_v not_o himself_o in_o the_o same_o river_n with_o he_o nor_o be_v any_o thing_n suggest_v to_o the_o contrary_a in_o all_o the_o antiquity_n i_o have_v converse_v with_o so_o far_o as_o i_o can_v call_v to_o remembrance_n so_o then_o augustin_n must_v be_v suppose_v in_o that_o starve_a season_n to_o stand_v in_o the_o same_o river_n all_o the_o while_n that_o he_o be_v baptise_v they_o now_o that_o a_o old_a man_n shall_v be_v able_a to_o stand_v either_o naked_a or_o clothe_v in_o a_o river_n and_o on_o a_o christmas-day_n and_o till_o he_o have_v total_o dip_v ten_o thousand_o man_n be_v so_o far_o beyond_o all_o degree_n of_o probability_n that_o it_o can_v be_v conclude_v nothing_o less_o than_o impossible_a §_o 33._o either_o then_o there_o be_v no_o such_o baptise_v of_o such_o a_o multitude_n in_o a_o river_n at_o that_o time_n especial_o and_o then_o why_o do_v mr._n d._n urge_v that_o practice_n of_o augustine_n upon_o we_o or_o else_o it_o be_v do_v in_o a_o way_n that_o be_v more_o practicable_a and_o then_o nothing_o can_v put_v in_o so_o fair_a a_o plea_n for_o it_o as_o sprinkle_v nay_o mr._n fox_n himself_o argue_v that_o either_o there_o be_v less_o to_o do_v about_o baptism_n in_o augustine_n time_n than_o in_o his_o own_o his_o word_n be_v that_o the_o rite_n of_o it_o be_v not_o so_o ceremonial_a neither_o have_v so_o many_o trinket_n at_o that_o time_n as_o it_o have_v since_o or_o else_o it_o can_v not_o be_v that_o he_o can_v baptize_v so_o many_o in_o one_o day_n §_o 34._o now_o why_o mr._n d._n will_v only_o tell_v we_o in_o general_a of_o augustine_n baptise_v great_a multitude_n in_o river_n and_o not_o tell_v we_o of_o these_o particularity_n of_o his_o baptise_v they_o it_o be_v easy_a to_o conjecture_v even_o because_o he_o see_v he_o can_v not_o relate_v they_o but_o that_o present_o these_o or_o some_o such_o like_a remark_n will_v be_v make_v upon_o they_o and_o so_o his_o quotation_n will_v either_o prove_v to_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n or_o else_o to_o be_v against_o his_o own_o purpose_n §_o 35._o and_o as_o for_o the_o story_n of_o paulinus_n which_o be_v a_o different_a thing_n from_o that_o of_o augustine_n however_o jumble_v together_o into_o one_o by_o mr._n d._n it_o be_v plain_o this_o as_o it_o be_v relate_v by_o mr._n fox_n pag._n 109._o col_fw-fr 2._o lin_v 3._o etc._n etc._n that_o have_v first_o baptize_v king_n edwine_n with_o many_o other_o of_o his_o subject_n with_o he_o at_o york_n he_o do_v from_o that_o time_n forth_o during_o the_o life_n of_o edwine_n which_o be_v the_o term_n of_o six_o year_n more_o continual_o christen_v in_o the_o river_n of_o gwenie_n and_o swala_n in_o both_o province_n of_o deira_n and_o in_o berenicia_n use_v the_o say_a river_n for_o font_n §_o 36._o but_o first_o it_o be_v not_o here_o say_v that_o he_o dip_v they_o in_o those_o river_n and_o if_o it_o have_v be_v so_o say_v it_o have_v only_o prove_v positive_o that_o dip_v be_v thenin_n use_v not_o negative_o that_o sprinkle_v be_v not_o second_o that_o note_n which_o mr._n fox_n make_v concern_v augustine_n baptise_v in_o river_n viz._n that_o it_o be_v because_o there_o be_v then_o no_o use_n of_o font_n be_v not_o add_v also_o upon_o paulinus_n baptise_v in_o river_n though_o mr._n danvers_n set_v it_o after_o both_o as_o belong_v to_o both_o three_o river-dipping_a be_v not_o the_o only_a way_n of_o baptise_v use_v by_o paulinus_n for_o neither_o king_n edwine_n himself_o nor_o those_o many_o subject_n of_o he_o that_o be_v baptize_v with_o he_o be_v by_o the_o confession_n of_o mr._n fox_n baptize_v in_o any_o river_n for_o he_o tell_v we_o in_o his_o margin_n to_o that_o place_n where_o he_o relate_v the_o story_n that_o king_n edwine_n be_v baptize_v in_o st._n peterschurch_n at_o york_n which_o he_o cause_v first_o to_o be_v make_v of_o wood_n and_o that_o in_o order_n to_o his_o be_v baptize_v therein_o as_o bede_n inform_v we_o which_o be_v after_o by_o st._n oswald_n build_v of_o stone_n 14._o bed_n eccl._n hist_o l._n 2._o c._n 14._o and_o if_o that_o baptise_v be_v in_o the_o church_n than_o it_o can_v not_o be_v in_o the_o river_n especial_o as_o the_o church_n now_o stand_v unless_o afterward_o weary_a of_o stand_v so_o low_o it_o take_v its_o progress_n and_o walk_v up_o the_o hill_n and_o if_o it_o be_v in_o a_o church_n that_o the_o baptism_n be_v then_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o in_o a_o font_n and_o whether_o not_o by_o sprinkle_v or_o at_o most_o a_o partial_a mersation_n since_o we_o have_v no_o remains_o that_o i_o know_v of_o any_o font_n of_o capacity_n for_o a_o total_a immersion_n unless_o of_o infant_n it_o be_v free_a for_o the_o reader_n to_o make_v his_o conjecture_n and_o he_o that_o five_o hundred_o year_n hence_o shall_v read_v the_o story_n of_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o turk_n convert_v by_o dr._n gunning_n and_o shall_v see_v in_o the_o church_n then_o no_o other_o font_n but_o such_o as_o we_o have_v in_o our_o church_n now_o will_v never_o imagine_v that_o baptism_n to_o have_v be_v by_o dip_v but_o will_v conclude_v that_o it_o be_v by_o aspersion_n or_o affusion_n or_o at_o most_o by_o a_o partial_a mersation_n §_o 37._o as_o to_o what_o he_o say_v concern_v germanus_n and_o lupus_n the_o two_o french_a evangelist_n viz._n that_o they_o do_v in_o the_o five_o century_n baptize_v multitude_n in_o the_o river_n allin_n near_o chester_n which_o we_o shall_v find_v hereafter_o i_o answer_v first_o that_o have_v neither_o tell_v we_o where_o nor_o when_o we_o shall_v find_v it_o we_o may_v well_o pass_v it_o over_o without_o further_a notice_n till_o we_o shall_v meet_v with_o it_o but_o second_o have_v a_o desire_n to_o know_v further_o what_o may_v be_v discover_v of_o they_o that_o concern_v our_o present_a purpose_n and_o not_o have_v time_n to_o read_v over_o all_o that_o remain_v behind_o in_o his_o book_n for_o it_o i_o consult_v his_o index_n but_o it_o shall_v seem_v what_o be_v say_v of_o they_o be_v not_o worthy_a so_o great_a a_o remark_n as_o to_o be_v put_v in_o there_o notwithstanding_o out_o of_o a_o desire_n to_o be_v satisfy_v turn_v over_o the_o leaf_n of_o his_o book_n i_o find_v in_o pag._n 228._o that_o those_o two_o famous_a french_a man_n be_v send_v over_o into_o britain_n to_o help_v against_o the_o pelagian_a heresy_n be_v instrumental_a to_o convert_v many_o and_o do_v baptize_v great_a multitude_n upon_o confession_n of_o faith_n in_o the_o river_n allin_n near_o chester_n but_o still_o we_o be_v but_o where_o we_o be_v before_o for_o it_o be_v only_o say_v here_o that_o those_o two_o evangelist_n do_v baptize_v many_o in_o the_o river_n allin_n and_o it_o be_v but_o the_o same_o man_n viz._n mr._n
compel_v and_o god_n permit_v §_o 58._o and_o this_o he_o go_v on_o be_v the_o sense_n and_o law_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n not_o that_o it_o be_v indifferent_a but_o that_o all_o infant_n be_v dip_v except_o in_o the_o case_n of_o sickness_n and_o then_o sprinkle_v be_v permit_v and_o so_o it_o be_v in_o those_o time_n when_o the_o doctor_n first_o write_v this_o but_o the_o sense_n and_o law_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v since_o that_o grow_v still_o a_o little_a more_o favourable_a for_o in_o the_o office_n of_o public_a baptism_n of_o infant_n the_o dip_v of_o the_o infant_n be_v appoint_v with_o a_o if_o if_o they_o shall_v certify_v that_o the_o child_n may_v well_o endure_v it_o so_o then_o no_o such_o certification_n be_v make_v the_o minister_n be_v not_o appoint_v to_o dip_v it_o nor_o be_v he_o require_v to_o ask_v whether_o the_o child_n may_v well_o endure_v it_o or_o no_o and_o see_v they_o offer_v the_o child_n to_o baptism_n in_o such_o a_o condition_n as_o it_o be_v unfit_a to_o dip_v it_o in_o he_o may_v in_o reason_n presume_v without_o their_o certify_v either_o way_n that_o it_o may_v not_o endure_v it_o their_o very_a offering_n it_o in_o that_o condition_n be_v a_o interpretative_a certification_n of_o its_o inability_n to_o suffer_v baptization_n by_o a_o total_a immersion_n and_o be_v that_o in_o the_o office_n of_o baptism_n of_o person_n of_o ripe_a year_n dip_v in_o the_o water_n or_o pour_v water_n on_o be_v indifferent_o prescribe_v and_o clear_o leave_v to_o the_o minister_n liberty_n without_o if_n or_o and_n where_o yet_o the_o person_n be_v of_o age_n and_o strength_n enough_o to_o endure_v it_o he_o may_v rational_o presume_v he_o be_v at_o the_o same_o liberty_n with_o infant_n of_o who_o strength_n in_o regard_n of_o their_o age_n there_o be_v no_o ground_n for_o such_o presumption_n §_o 59_o after_o this_o the_o doctor_n go_v on_o to_o confirm_v the_o use_n of_o sprinkle_v from_o instance_n of_o some_o though_o little_a use_n of_o it_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n which_o he_o show_v from_o tertullian_n the_o act_n of_o st._n laurence_n in_o surius_n and_o walafrid_n strabo_n and_o for_o further_a confirmation_n add_v the_o opinion_n of_o aquinas_n that_o the_o three_o thousand_o and_o five_o thousand_o convert_v in_o the_o act_n be_v so_o baptize_v all_o which_o mr._n danvers_n be_v please_v to_o over-pass_a §_o 60._o but_o then_o have_v weaken_v this_o last_o proof_n from_o aquinas_n by_o call_v it_o but_o a_o conjecture_n and_o say_v it_o have_v no_o tradition_n nor_o record_v to_o warrant_v it_o he_o draw_v towards_o the_o conclusion_n of_o that_o which_o all_o this_o discourse_n about_o dip_v and_o sprinkle_v be_v bring_v to_o prove_v viz._n that_o a_o custom_n in_o the_o administration_n of_o a_o sacrament_n introduce_v against_o the_o analogy_n and_o mystery_n the_o purpose_n and_o signification_n of_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v comply_v with_o say_v and_o therefore_o 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lift_v up_o from_o the_o water_n it_o represent_v the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o new_a man_n to_o newness_n of_o life_n §_o 61._o in_o which_o part_n of_o the_o discourse_n i_o can_v but_o note_v three_o thing_n which_o mr._n d._n be_v not_o please_v to_o advert_v unto_o first_o a_o acknowledgement_n that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v not_o want_v some_o good_a example_n in_o the_o best_a time_n to_o countenance_v her_o permission_n of_o sprinkle_v good_a example_n and_o in_o the_o best_a time_n be_v very_o material_a word_n for_o we_o and_o give_v we_o a_o antiquity_n as_o old_a and_o as_o good_a as_o we_o can_v desire_v and_o utter_o overthrow_v all_o that_o ever_o can_v be_v say_v against_o we_o especial_o on_o the_o account_n of_o antiquity_n second_o that_o the_o analogy_n betwixt_o immersion_n and_o emersion_n and_o the_o death_n or_o burial_n of_o the_o old_a man_n and_o resurrection_n of_o the_o new_a man_n be_v make_v the_o mystery_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o by_o the_o manner_n of_o speech_n so_o make_v the_o mystery_n as_o if_o it_o be_v the_o only_a mystery_n of_o it_o our_o wash_n from_o sin_n by_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v the_o prime_a signification_n and_o mystery_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v pass_v by_o on_o no_o account_n that_o i_o know_v of_o unless_o because_o if_o that_o be_v either_o the_o whole_a or_o any_o part_n of_o the_o mystery_n of_o the_o sacrament_n that_o will_v hold_v analogy_n with_o sprinkle_v and_o so_o weaken_v the_o inference_n for_o dip_v three_o that_o whereas_o the_o immersion_n st._n chrysostom_n speak_v of_o be_v as_o far_o as_o his_o word_n will_v bear_v but_o a_o immersion_n or_o dip_v of_o the_o head_n caput_fw-la immergentibus_fw-la be_v his_o word_n both_o the_o doctor_n and_o mr._n d._n slip_v that_o by_o without_o the_o least_o notice_n of_o it_o and_o hide_v it_o under_o a_o general_a ambiguous_a term_n of_o immersion_n under_o the_o water_n which_o be_v apt_a to_o carry_v away_o the_o mind_n to_o think_v of_o a_o total_a immersion_n of_o the_o whole_a man_n while_o it_o be_v but_o the_o head_n who_o immerge_v the_o father_n speak_v of_o at_o this_o rate_n who_o may_v not_o be_v make_v to_o say_v even_o what_o one_o will_n §_o 62._o at_o length_n both_o the_o doctor_n and_o mr._n danvers_n come_v to_o a_o conclusion_n and_o therefore_o say_v mr._n d._n he_o conclude_v that_o the_o contrary_a custom_n be_v not_o only_o against_o ecclesiastical_a law_n but_o against_o the_o analogy_n and_o mystical_a signification_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o to_o be_v comply_v with_o §_o 63._o but_o why_o do_v mr._n d._n stop_v there_o and_o not_o do_v the_o doctor_n and_o the_o truth_n right_a in_o add_v the_o exception_n follow_v unless_o in_o such_o case_n that_o be_v of_o themselves_o sufficient_a to_o justify_v a_o liberty_n in_o a_o ritual_a and_o ceremony_n that_o be_v a_o case_n of_o necessity_n §_o 64._o to_o mr._n d._n i_o shall_v answer_v first_o that_o as_o i_o conceive_v the_o allowance_n of_o any_o such_o case_n or_o case_n be_v not_o consistent_a with_o his_o hypothesis_n and_o that_o the_o add_v of_o those_o word_n will_v have_v make_v the_o doctor_n be_v testimony_n unserviceable_a to_o his_o turn_n and_o therefore_o he_o think_v fit_a to_o leave_v they_o out_o with_o how_o great_a ingenuity_n i_o leave_v to_o his_o own_o judgement_n §_o 65._o then_o to_o the_o doctor_n i_o say_v first_o that_o the_o custom_n of_o sprinkle_v be_v not_o now_o against_o our_o ecclesiastical_a law_n which_o have_v prescribe_v dip_v or_o pour_v on_o of_o water_n indifferent_o in_o the_o case_n of_o the_o public_a baptism_n of_o person_n of_o ripe_a age_n and_o have_v appoint_v pour_v on_o of_o water_n in_o the_o case_n of_o the_o sick_a infant_n baptize_v private_o and_o have_v neither_o appoint_a dip_v nor_o sprinkle_v in_o the_o case_n of_o infant_n bring_v to_o public_a baptism_n but_o according_o as_o certification_n of_o their_o ability_n or_o 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