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A26959 More proofs of infants church-membership and consequently their right to baptism, or, A second defence of our infant rights and mercies in three parts ... / by Richard Baxter. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1675 (1675) Wing B1312; ESTC R17239 210,005 430

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alith_n sed_fw-la dic_fw-la rogo_fw-la clarius_fw-la quomodo_fw-la christus_fw-la qui_fw-la tantum_fw-la odivit_fw-la signa_fw-la sensibilia_fw-la tantam_fw-la necessitatem_fw-la salvationis_fw-la posuit_fw-la in_o hujusmodi_fw-la lotione_fw-la videtur_fw-la enim_fw-la derogare_fw-la divinae_fw-la liberalitati_fw-la atque_fw-la potentiae_fw-la quod_fw-la deus_fw-la non_fw-la posset_n intercedere_fw-la toto_fw-la merito_fw-la svo_fw-la atque_fw-la passione_n salvare_fw-la infantem_fw-la vel_fw-la adultum_fw-la fidelem_fw-la nisi_fw-la vetula_fw-la vel_fw-la alio_fw-la viante_fw-la baptizetur_fw-la communiter_fw-la infideli_fw-la similiter_fw-la delato_fw-la infante_n fidelium_fw-la ad_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la
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fellow_n be_v this_o guitmund_n that_o his_o fellow_n papist_n be_v put_v to_o disow_v he_o for_o say_v that_o their_o eucharistical_a host_n can_v be_v corrupt_v or_o putrify_v or_o be_v eat_v by_o mouse_n or_o any_o bruit_n but_o only_o seem_v so_o to_o be_v ib._n p._n 230._o l._n 2._o §_o 15._o his_o three_o proof_n be_v in_o the_o bibl._n patr._n paris_n p._n 432._o it_o be_v record_v that_o durandus_fw-la write_v the_o deny_v and_o as_o much_o as_o in_o they_o lay_v the_o destroy_n the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o do_v this_o man_n ever_o see_v the_o book_n he_o cit_v who_o cit_v pag._n 432._o of_o the_o bibl._n pat._n as_o if_o be_v but_o one_o tomb_n or_o volume_n that_o long_o ago_o be_v eleven_o great_a volume_n and_o now_o many_o more_o it_o be_v like_o marg._n le_fw-fr bigness_n edit_n be_v that_o he_o mean_v the_o epistle_n be_v tom._n 3._o p._n 319._o of_o the_o bigne_n paris_n 1624._o the_o author_n say_v usher_n de_fw-fr success_n eccl._n p._n 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king_n have_v call_v a_o council_n to_o examine_v these_o thing_n which_o council_n never_o take_v notice_n of_o any_o such_o matter_n confute_v the_o fame_n and_o do_v mr._n d._n the_o great_a enemy_n of_o antichrist_n persuade_v poor_a anabaptist_n to_o believe_v such_o fellow_n and_o tale_n as_o these_o §_o 16._o in_o his_o reply_n he_o add_v four_a thuanus_n witness_v that_o bruno_n archbishop_n of_o trier_n do_v persecute_v berengarius_fw-la for_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n as_o p._n 242._o answ_n 1._o again_o he_o tell_v we_o of_o thuanus_n and_o tell_v not_o where_o as_o if_o we_o must_v read_v over_o five_o volume_n in_o folio_n to_o be_v able_a to_o disprove_v such_o a_o tale-teller_n as_o this_o but_o he_o say_v usher_n say_v so_o the_o success_n eccl._n pag._n 252._o but_o all_o still_o be_v false_a my_o book_n there_o have_v not_o such_o a_o word_n usher_n word_n be_v pag._n 207._o and_o they_o also_o he_o most_o horrible_o falsify_v they_o be_v but_o these_o brunonem_fw-la 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swell_v into_o self-conceit_n and_o trouble_v the_o church_n with_o a_o mistake_n wrangle_a hurtful_a sort_n of_o zeal_n §_o 33._o and_o as_o i_o must_v needs_o believe_v as_o ill_o of_o some_o sort_n of_o zeal_n as_o st._n james_n have_v speak_v of_o it_o jam._n 3._o and_o experience_n have_v too_o long_o tell_v the_o world_n of_o it_o yet_o i_o take_v it_o for_o true_o amiable_a in_o man_n that_o they_o have_v a_o love_n and_o zeal_n for_o truth_n in_o general_n and_o a_o hatred_n to_o that_o which_o they_o think_v to_o be_v against_o it_o and_o that_o their_o bitterness_n against_o the_o truth_n and_o i_o be_v upon_o a_o supposition_n that_o both_o be_v against_o the_o truth_n and_o god_n for_o this_o bear_v they_o witness_v that_o they_o have_v a_o zeal_n of_o god_n though_o it_o be_v not_o according_a to_o knowledge_n and_o if_o they_o know_v truth_n indeed_o they_o will_v be_v zealous_a for_o it_o §_o 34._o i_o conclude_v with_o this_o notice_n to_o the_o contrary_n mind_v that_o 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