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A88227 The oppressed mans oppressions declared: or An epistle written by Lieut. Col. Iohn Lilburne, prerogative-prisoner (by the illegall and arbitrary authority of the House of Lords) in the Tower of London, to Col. Francis West, lieutenant thereof in which the oppressing cruelty of all the gaolers of England is declared, and particularly the lieutenants of the Tower. As also, there is thrown unto Tho. Edwards, the author of the 3d. ulcerous gangræna, a bone or two to pick: in which also, divers things are handled, of speciall concernment to the present times. Lilburne, John, 1614?-1657. 1647 (1647) Wing L2149; ESTC R202786 33,231 28

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GANGRAENA he hath fallen so point blanke upon me for no other cause but for standing for the Fundamentall Lawes of England which if he had not an absolute desire to be notoriously forsworn he might know his Covenant binds him to doe the same But seeing he there playes the simple man to fight with his owne shadow and doth not in the least meddle for any thing I can perceive by so much as I have read of his Book which so neare as I could find was every place where I was mentioned with the Statutes and other Legall Authorities that I cite in my wives petition and else-where to prove That all the Commoners of England ought in all criminall cases to be tryed by their Peers that is Equalls and that the House of Lords in the least are not the Peeres of Commoners And therefore seeing seemingly by that ulcerous book he hath given me something to answer that concernes me I will really and substantially give him something to answer that in good earnest concerneth him and all the rest of his bloody-minded pretended reformed fellow-Clergy Presbyters that lying deceitfull forsworn and bloodye Sect of whom it is true that the Prophet said of the Prophets of old That they make the people to erre and bite with their teeth and cry peace and he that putteth not 〈◊〉 theis mouthes they even prepare warre against him Micah 3.5 And that at present I have to put him to answer shall be certain Arguments which I made when I was close prisoner in irons in the Fleet against the then Episcopall Ministers of the Church of England which will serve in every particular against the present Presbyteriall Ministers and you shall find them thus laid downe in the 23. page of my Book called An Answer of 9. Arguments written by T.B. and printed at London 1645. First That every lawfull Pastor Bishop Minister or Officer in the visible Church of Christ ought to have a lawfull call and be lawfully chosen into his Office before be can be a true Officer in the Church of Christ Acts 1.23 24 25. and 6.3.5 6. and 14.23 Gal. 1.1 Heb. 5.4 But the Ministers and Officers in the Church of England as well Presbyterian as Episcopall have not a lawfull call neither are lawfully chosen to be officers in the Church of Christ See the booke of Ordination of Bishops Priests and Deacons as also the Directory and compare them with the Scripture Therefore all your Ministers are false and Antichristian Officers Rev. 9.3 and 13.2 and 16.13 Secondly the doing of those actions that belong to the execution of an Officer doth not prove a man to be a lawfull Officer but a lawfull power instating him into his Office Acts 8.4 and 11.19 20. and 28.24.25 26. 1 Cor. 14.29 30 31. 1 Pet. 4.10 But all the Ministers in the Church of England have nothing to prove the Lawfullnesse of their standing in the Ministry but the actions of a Minister and are not in the least able to prove that they are instated in the Ministry by vertue of a lawfull power and authority Therefore they are no true Ministers of Christ but false and Antichristian Ministers of Antichrist Thirdly againe in the third place upon your owne grounds I frame this Argument Those that by their Ministry doe not accomplish the same ends that the Ministry of the Apostles did are no true Ministers But the Ministers of the Church of England doe not accomplish the same ends by their Ministry that the Ministery of the Apostles did 1 Cor. 11.2 Therefore your Ministers are no true Ministers of Iesus Christ But Gangraena one word more at present-to-you seeing in the 271 281. p. of your late 3 d. Gangraena you fall so exceeding heavie upon me and my honest Comrade Mr Overton and say that if these two audacious men their daring bookes shall escape without exemplary punishment and instead there of be countenanced and set free I doe as a Minister pronounce but I say it is as one of Sathans that the plague of God will fall upon the heads of those that are the cause of it Come Antagonist let us come to a period for I hope for all your mallice you are not yet so farre gone beyond your selfe as to desire to have me hanged or killed and then condemned and adjudged and therefore I will make you two faire propositions First in reference to the Lords whose Goliah and Rabshaka-like Champion you are that if you please to joyne with me in a desire to both Houses I will so for goe below my selfe and my present appeale now in the House of Commons always provided it may not be no prejudice to the benefit I shall justly expect from my said appeale and joyne with you in this desire that there may be by both House a proportionable number thereof mutually by themselves chosen out to sit openly and publickly in the painted Chamber where I will against you by the established Lawes of this Land maintaine against you and all the Lawyers you can bring this position which is absolutely the contest betwixt the Lords and me THAT THE LORDS AS A HOUSE OF PEERS HATH NO JURISDICTION AT ALL OVER ANY COMMONER IN ENGLAND IN ANY CRIMINALL CASE WHATSOEVER and if you will I will wholly as in reference to the contest betwixt you and me stand to the vote and abide the judgement and sentence of that very Committee whose vote upon the fore-mentioned tearmes if you will tye your selfe J will tye my selfe either actually to execute or passively to suffer and undergoe it Jn the second place because so farre as J am able to understand your meaning in your fore mentioned pages you would have me dealt withall as the Earle of Strafford and the Bishop of Canterbury was for indeavouring as you say with so much violence the overthrow of the three Estates and the Lawes of the Kingdome and in the stead of the fundamentall Government and constitution of this Kingdome to set up an Utopian Anarchy of the promiscuous multitude and the lusts and uncertain fancies of weake people for Lawes and Rules Now in regard of the distractions of the Kingdome which are many and that they might not be made wider by new books from either of us J shall be very willing for peace and quiet sake to joyne with you in a Petition to the House of Commons to appoint a select Committee publickly to examine all things that are amrsse in your bookes and mine and to punish either or both according to Law and Justice without partiality and J appeale to all rationall men in the world whether I have not offered fayre or no. But in regard I know not whether you will imbrace my proffer I shall speake a little more for my selfe and reduce all to these three heads First whether the Lords have by the knowne Law of the Land any jurisdiction over the Commoners or no Secondly whether in the Parliaments own publick declarations in Mr. Prinns soveraign