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A28865	Observations upon the ordinance of the Lords and Commons at Westminster after advice had with their Assembly of Divines for the ordination of ministers pro tempore, according to their directory for ordination and rule for examination therein expressed.	Boughen, Edward, 1587?-1660?	1645 (1645)	Wing B3815; ESTC R20014	28,236	38

of man He does indeed and so we must either by doing or suffering We must either doe what is injoyned if so it may be done without offence to God otherwise if it may not be done we must patiently suffer what shall be inflicted as God knowes a multitude of us have since these times of triall And herein the Turke reades to you a Lecture of justice for he permits Christians to enjoy their Religion according to the termes agreed upon but without any horrid abjuration of their Faith or Liturgy or Canonicall obedience as also without any such unchristian Covenant to extirpate Episcopacy A course unheard of among the Heathen and savors strongly of Antichrist But a part it is of your Religion to enforce men to forsweare their Religion and Allegiance And herein you outstrip Julian the Apostata in his most barbarous subtilties 70. Your next Proposition is most consonant to veritie and Scripture viz. n Ord. p. 2. That it is manifest by the word of God that no man ought to take upon him the Office of a Minister untill he be lawfully called and ordained thereunto And I have already shewed who are lawfully called and ordained This being true it may not be listed in the number of your false Propositions which I intend to confute It shall therefore passe untouched while I hasten to the following Proposition which deserves a just censure The fifth Proposition The work of Ordination that is to say An outward solemne setting apart of Persons for the Office of the Ministerie in the Church by Preaching Presbyters is an Ordinance of Christ. 71. NOt so my great Masters by Presbyters it is not but by Bishops strictly so called or if you will by Apostles it is Christs owne Ordinance The Seventy were Presbyters they ordained not we find no such Commission given them The Apostles did because upon them and their Successors onely in that Sacred Office and Order our Saviour confer'd this power 72. That the Seventie were not of equall ranke or order with the Apostles cannot be denied If S. Hierome beare any sway he tells us that o Hieron Ep. 127. Mans 6. the seventy were secundi ordinis minoris gradûs of a second Order and of a lower degree then the Twelve were of And Walo Messalinus himselfe professeth that p Walo Messal p. 26.27 the Greek interpreters observe that the Apostles were of an higher dignity then Presbyters And with them he resolves that q Ib. p. 269. they are of severall Orders And withall he fairely acknowledgeth that r Vbi distingui ordines gradus caeptisunt atque Episcopus major extitit Presbytero tum Ordinatio non potuit utriusque esse communis Ib. p. 229. from the time these Orders were distinguished and that a Bishop became greater then a Presbyter ORDINATION COVLD NOT BE COMMON TO THEM BOTH But these Orders were distinguished in the Apostles times as appears by Theodoret and Beza's severall Editions of the New Testament From the Apostles times therefore both these could not Ordaine Besides two Orders they are therefore not one and the same 73. Yea they were distinct while the Apostles lived here on earth If Walo Messal say not so believe me not ſ Ib. p. 62. Episcopi SVMMVM in Ecclesiastico Ordine GRADVM obtinent ut oli● tenuere qui APOSTOLI vocabantur Bishops hold the highest degree in the Ecclesiasticall Order as heretofore those did who were called Apostles But t Ib. p. 269. then it was said of the Councells moulded up of Both Orders u Act. 15.22 It pleased the Apostles and Presbyters Take his own words and weigh them well Tunc dicebatur in Conciliis ex utroque Ordine compositis congregatis 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Two Orders they were then and two Orders they are now though it hath pleased the Church to change a title And that the lower of these two did never warrantably Ordaine is sufficiently manifested in the observations upon the third and fourth Propositions Say you then what you will frame what Ordinances you please the Ordinations made by Mr Edmund Calamy and Mr Henry Robrough and by the whole Assembly of Assessors and Scribes will be as good as nothing meere nullities And your new Presbyters shall be what they were before shop-men or worse and branded to all posterity with Ischyras 74. Now I hope every reasonable eye sees that it is more then time for you to provide that * Ord. p. 3. a Government of the Church be formed up to the full power and worke of it and that the whole course of Ordination of Ministers in an Ordinary way be set up and setled for all the three Kingdomes For this your frame is not built upon the foundation of Apostles and Prophets Christ Iesus being the head corner stone but upon the whimsies of your own braine 75. Hitherto by your owne confession ye have gone in no ordinary no setled way and therefore not in the way of Christ and his Apostles Neither is the whole course of your intended Ordination yet set up your Wisedomes have not yet found it no nor yet the Kirke of Scotland from whom you take your paterne Geneva and Amsterdam come short of your great intended Master piece None of these have formed up a Government of the Church to the full power and work of it their platformes worke low and their power is empty but your braines flye high and we shall have a work of wonder next October 76. The whole course you promise fairely as yet God knowes ye have provided only for part of Ordination unlesse ye make Presbyters and Deacons the same as you have already shufled Bishops properly so called and Presbyters into one Order cleane contrary to the ancient Church and to the book of God Thus you have pulled downe the ordinary way God give you grace to see your error that you may in time endeavour to set up the old the ordinary way 77. For Examination provision is made but especially x Ord. p 4. or first of all That he that is to be Ordained must bring with him a testimoniall of his taking the Covenant of the three Kingdomes framed by a Rebellious combination against the word of God and the Lawes of this Kingdome but according to the directions of the World the Flesh and the Divell A testimoniall worthy of such an Ordinance such Ordainers and such Orders Of this he must be sure to bring a Testimoniall And without this neither Learning nor holinesse of life will serve the turne 78. y His age is to be twenty foure yeares at the least Ord. p. 4 For age they agree with our Canons Touching z The Ministers appointed to ordain shall proceed to enquire touching the grace of God in him Ib. grace will be an hard matter to enquire a Ib. p. 8. an examination of two severall daies or of two severall yeares will hardly serve the turne Iudas had

concerning his perswasion of the truth of the reformed Religion which few men know where to finde Where may we see the Articles of your Religion or the rule you will be tryed by Is the Reformed Religion contained in out 39 Articles In the Apostles Nicene or Athanasius Creed None of these are in your new Directory It may be it is in the Harmony of Confessions I would to God you would tell us which it is Be it what it will it is according to the Scriptures Is this enough Will not the Brownist and the Anabaptist the Papist and the Antitrinitarian yea and the Socinian say as much And some of these will put the best of your Elders shroadly to it to prove the contrary 85. But why have we not a Directory for faith as well as for Prayers That so we may know what your new reformed faith is I think as your Prayers are unformed so your faith is unfound it is yet to be agreed on A wonder it is you are so long in voting it But your wisedomes know that it is impossible to vote a Religion which might please all the adherents to this Rebellion As therefore ye leave every man at liberty to the spirit of prayer so have ye left every man free to choose his Religion so it be not destructive to your Platformes This you esteem to be that liberty of Conscience which stints not the Spirit and is the only curbe to Popery 86. But you have a great care of e He is to be demanded of his Zeale and Faithfulnesse in maintaining the Vnity of the Church against Errour and Schisme Ib. the Churches unity against Error and Schisme he is therefore to be examined concerning his Zeale and Faithfulnesse in the maintenance of this unity But have we not read of some whose Faith is said to be Faction whose Religion Rebellion f Tertul. de Praescrip c. 42. whose Vnity Schisme But how shall they maintaine Vnity that have dissolved the bonds of charity Tha● have raised such and so many Schismes as the Church hath hardly been acquainted with from her foundation That have hatched and clucked up so many Errors and Heresies that men and Angells stand amazed at And yet a pretence of Vnity and a pretence of Reformation may work much upon the weake People as many other pretences have Good Lord how like the Devill we affect to be to make show to be what we are least and to endeavour that we seek to overthrow The rest of your Interrogatories are borrowed from our Book of Ordination and from our Canons as every thing else is that is good in this Directorie 87. In the Ordination I observe that you call the Ministery g Ord. p 11. a great worke an h 〈◊〉 12. holy Service and suddenly after he is to be exhorted to i Ib consider the greatnesse of his Office I am glad you have so good an opinion of the calling If then it be such a worke such an Office as yee speake of why have you thrust such illiterate meane Persons into our Cures as Blacke-Smiths Taylors Felt-makers and the like with unwashed hands to meddle with this holy Service Are these men fit to undertake so great a worke Is it probable that such as these should k Ib. both save themselves and the People by you committed to their Charge It is rather to be feared that as l Levit. 10.1 Num. 3. ● with Nadab and Abihu they offer strange fire so with them they will perish in this fire and draw the people into the same destruction 88. Well he is m 〈◊〉 p. 32. set apart by Imposition of hands that ancient Ceremonie of Ordination to fulfill the worke of his Ministery in all things What Ministery is this Here is none named in particular And yet there are more Orders of Ministers then one witnesse your servant Smectymnuus who n Smect Ans p. 63. acknowledgeth Presbyters and Deacons to be of two distinct Orders But the Church of England agreeably to the whole Church of God for 1500 yeares together tells us that o Preface to the Book of Ordination from the Apostles times there have been these Orders of Ministers in Christs Church BISHOPS PRIESTS and DEACONS 89. His Ministery Hath it no speciall or particular name to be knowne by Alas Ministery and Minister are words of a large extent generall names that reach to all Orders and perchance further Minister is the Genus which hath these species under it Bishop Priest and Deacon and each of these is a Minister But before we can tell which of these is meant there must be added a specificall difference as there must be to a Creature before we can conceive what manner of Creature or of living Creature is intended What though In all things be added yet all these things will reach no further then to those things which are within the compasse or power of that his Ministery to which he is ordained And so for all this we are to seek to what Ministery he is set apart Whereas in our Book of Ordination in the Pontificals and Enchologe every person in his Ordination is by name assigned to his particular Order 90. Indeed I must confesse your Minister is expressed to be a Presbyter before Ordination pag 4. as also after Ordination pag. 15. but at Ordination Minister As if Presbyter and Minister were convertible termes names of the selfe same signification True it is that every Presbyter is a Minister but every Minister is not a Presbyter no more then every living Creature is a man though every man be a living Creature I should rather conceive a Minister to be a Deacon then a Presbyter in our language because we usually translate 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Ministery and Minister 2. Cor. 13.23 2. Tim. 4.5 c. But you must enjoy your owne words and your owne meaning though they be contrary to the sence and custome of the Church 91. Order also is taken that p Ord p. 12. one of the Ordainers exhort and charge the People in the name of God willingly to receive and acknowledge him as the Minister of Christ and to maintaine encourage and assist him in all the parts of his Office No question to be made of their willingnesse to receive and acknowledge a new Minister Novelties are pleasing and the People q 2. Tim 4.3 having itching cares will heap to themselves Teachers after their owne lusts and fancies But when it comes to maintenance yee shall find that an Exhortation or Charge will not serve the turne For though r Jer. 5.31 their Prophets prophecy falsely and the People love to have it so yet experience hath taught you that maintenance comes hardly from them till your Orders and Ordinances constraine them to pay You have been therefore and will be enforced to take a more strict course for the maintenance of your Ministers 92. But when it comes to assistance they will be forward enough for your Ordinance is that ſ Ord. p. 12. the People be charged to assist the Minister in all the parts of his Office What Are all Presbyters Are all Ministers Are all Teachers t Haereticorum qui ●am Larc● sacerdotalia munera injungunt Tertul. de Praescrip c. 41. By your Ordinance not only some but all the People are turned Prophets The People must assist the Minister in Baptizing in Preaching in administring the Lords Supper for all these belong to his Office If this be not your meaning you should have done well to have expressed your selves in plainer termes that we might understand your meaning For this is certaine that no man can assist a Presbyter in all the parts of his Office that is not of the same Office For though a Deacon may assist the Presbyter in the administration he cannot assist him in the Consecration of the Lords Supper And your selves will say that a Deacon may not assist him in Imposition of hands How then may the People assist him in all the parts of his Office Surely either the meaning or the expression is not good that 's plaine 93. I have done with your Directorie I have discharged my Conscience and I would to God I could u Ord. p. 12. dismisse you with a Blessing With a Prayer I may beseeching God so abundantly to blesse you with his grace that you may see your foule Impieties and Repent and in time while it is called to day discharge your Consciences knowing assuredly that you must appeare and give a strict account for all your Ordinances and Actions before the impartiall Barre of that unerring Iudge Christ Jesus And x Heb. 10.31 a dreadfull thing it is to fall into the Hands of the Everliving God Then an Ordinance of Parliament or the Protection of both Houses shall stand you and your Divine Assembly in small stead In that day your Ordinances and Actions and Intentions shall be throughly sifted and layed open before your faces Then y S. Ioh. 5.29 they that have done good shall goe into the Resurrection of Life and they that have done evill into the Resurrection of Damnation God give every one of us grace to lay this to heart that so we may avoyd the wrath to come AMEN FINIS