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alterutro_fw-la sexu_fw-la sanctos_fw-la procreari_fw-la ait_fw-la tam_fw-la ex_fw-la seminis_fw-la praerogativa_fw-la quam_fw-la ex_fw-la institutionis_fw-la disciplina_fw-la omnis_fw-la anima_fw-la in_o adam_n censetur_fw-la donec_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la recenseatur_fw-la see_v the_o rest_n there_o for_o infant_n birth_n holiness_n §_o 3._o his_o renew_a reproach_n of_o cyprian_a as_o have_v antichristian_a doctrine_n and_o his_o renew_a question_v whether_o there_o be_v ever_o such_o a_o council_n as_o that_o at_o carthage_n mention_v be_v thing_n so_o audacious_a and_o gross_a that_o they_o need_v no_o further_o answer_v pag._n 90._o §_o 4._o and_o his_o citation_n of_o austin_n pag._n 94._o that_o which_o have_v not_o be_v institute_v in_o council_n etc._n etc._n be_v nothing_o against_o this_o authority_n or_o to_o disprove_v its_o apostolical_a traduction_n for_o it_o be_v easy_a for_o he_o to_o see_v 1._o that_o it_o be_v not_o whether_o infant_n shall_v be_v baptise_a that_o 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uno_fw-la ritu_fw-la legitimo_fw-la quam_fw-la in_o alio_fw-la quia_fw-la certum_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la corporalis_fw-la baptizatio_fw-la sive_fw-la lotio_fw-la modicum_fw-la valet_fw-la nisi_fw-la adsit_fw-la lotio_fw-la mentis_fw-la per_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la à _fw-la peccato_fw-la originali_fw-la vel_fw-la actuali_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la enim_fw-la principium_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la fide_fw-la quod_fw-la quicunque_fw-la rite_n baptizatus_fw-la fuerit_fw-la baptismus_fw-la delet_fw-la quodcunque_fw-la peccatum_fw-la invenerit_fw-la in_o homine_fw-la baptizando_fw-la et_fw-la quia_fw-la ad_fw-la delationem_fw-la peccati_fw-la requiritur_fw-la satisfactio_fw-la et_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la fieri_fw-la satisfactio_fw-la pro_fw-la peccato_fw-la nisi_fw-la per_fw-la mortem_fw-la christi_fw-la ideo_fw-la dicit_fw-la apostolus_fw-la rom._n 6._o quicunque_fw-la baptizati_fw-la sumus_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la jesus_n in_o morte_fw-la ejus_fw-la baptizati_fw-la sumus_fw-la alith_n sed_fw-la dic_fw-la rogo_fw-la clarius_fw-la quomodo_fw-la christus_fw-la qui_fw-la tantum_fw-la odivit_fw-la signa_fw-la sensibilia_fw-la tantam_fw-la necessitatem_fw-la salvationis_fw-la posuit_fw-la in_o hujusmodi_fw-la lotione_fw-la videtur_fw-la enim_fw-la derogare_fw-la divinae_fw-la liberalitati_fw-la atque_fw-la potentiae_fw-la quod_fw-la deus_fw-la non_fw-la posset_n intercedere_fw-la toto_fw-la merito_fw-la svo_fw-la atque_fw-la passione_n salvare_fw-la infantem_fw-la vel_fw-la adultum_fw-la fidelem_fw-la nisi_fw-la vetula_fw-la vel_fw-la alio_fw-la viante_fw-la baptizetur_fw-la communiter_fw-la infideli_fw-la similiter_fw-la delato_fw-la infante_n fidelium_fw-la ad_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la
of_o the_o spirit_n and_o that_o it_o may_v be_v separate_v from_o it_o and_o hence_o be_v the_o papist_n noise_n against_o he_o 8._o say_v he_o as_o a_o further_a argument_n that_o he_o deny_v infant-baptism_n may_v appear_v because_o he_o do_v so_o vehement_o impugn_v confirmation_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o here_o we_o have_v full_a out_o of_o cochleus_n false_o again_o 2._o be_v all_o protestant_n against_o infant-baptism_n that_o be_v against_o the_o popish_a sacrament_n of_o confirmation_n what_o a_o prover_n be_v this_o man_n be_v dallaeus_n that_o have_v write_v so_o large_a a_o disputation_n of_o confirmation_n a_o anabaptist_n and_o the_o english_a nonconformist_n too_o 3._o but_o in_o very_a deed_n mr._n d.'s_n falsehood_n and_o wickliffs_n opinion_n for_o infant-baptism_n may_v very_o probable_o be_v gather_v from_o that_o not_o fifteen_o as_o he_o but_o fourteen_o chapt._n of_o confirmation_n for_o 1._o he_o reprehend_v the_o bishop_n for_o add_v so_o many_o ceremony_n to_o infant-baptism_n never_o blame_v their_o baptism_n itself_o 2._o he_o argue_v against_o confirm_v child_n as_o superfluous_a because_o the_o spirit_n be_v give_v in_o baptism_n itself_o &_o confirmatur_fw-la ex_fw-la hoc_fw-la quod_fw-la baptizatos_fw-la nostros_fw-la dicimus_fw-la regulariter_fw-la spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la accipere_fw-la eo_fw-la ipso_fw-la quo_fw-la legitime_fw-la baptizantur_fw-la that_o be_v and_o it_o be_v hence_o confirm_v in_o that_o we_o say_v that_o our_o baptize_v one_o do_v regular_o receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n in_o that_o or_o by_o that_o very_a thing_n that_o they_o be_v lawful_o baptize_v and_o he_o have_v before_o say_v that_o they_o be_v offer_v to_o baptism_n in_o the_o church_n according_a to_o christ_n rule_n §_o 11._o after_o all_o this_o mr._n d._n add_v wickliffs_n opinion_n against_o popery_n to_o the_o number_n of_o 29._o but_o what_o all_o this_o be_v to_o the_o case_n of_o infant-baptism_n what_o man_n beside_o himself_o can_v tell_v but_o let_v i_o tell_v he_o that_o i_o will_v not_o have_v he_o too_o easy_o believe_v bitter_a adversary_n papist_n lest_o he_o forfeit_v the_o little_a relic_n of_o his_o own_o credit_n and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o like_a that_o wickliff_n be_v against_o enjoin_v the_o lords-prayer_n as_o he_o cit_v yea_o i_o will_v not_o have_v mr._n d._n come_v so_o near_o the_o papist_n yet_o as_o wickliff_n do_v how_o do_v he_o like_o such_o word_n as_o these_o trialog_n li._n 4._o c._n 22._o fol._n 138._o et_fw-la talis_fw-la est_fw-la triplex_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la scilicet_fw-la militans_fw-la dormiens_fw-la &_o triumphans_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la dormiens_fw-la est_fw-la praedestinati_fw-la in_o purgatorio_fw-la patientes_fw-la that_o be_v there_o be_v such_o a_o threefold_a church_n the_o militant_a church_n the_o sleep_a church_n the_o triumphant_a church_n the_o sleep_a church_n be_v the_o predestinate_a suffering_n in_o purgatory_n and_o lib._n 2._o c._n 10._o see_v what_o he_o say_v of_o angel_n and_o adoration_n of_o they_o and_o c._n 11._o of_o angel_n office_n and_o their_o be_v virtual_o every_o where_o and_o what_o he_o say_v of_o king_n and_o matrimony_n quod_fw-la excedit_fw-la alia_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la etc._n etc._n li._n 4._o c._n 19_o 20._o fol._n 132_o 133._o nor_o will_v i_o say_v that_o omne_fw-la quae_fw-la eveniunt_fw-la de_fw-la necessitate_v eveniunt_fw-la as_o fol._n 120._o a._n or_o that_o deus_fw-la potest_fw-la esse_fw-la asinus_fw-la si_fw-la velit_fw-la ut_fw-la fol._n 90._o b._n one_o of_o the_o worst_a thing_n i_o like_v in_o wickliff_n be_v that_o he_o plunge_v himself_o into_o the_o deep_a school-subtlety_n or_o difficulty_n with_o less_o subtlety_n or_o diligence_n than_o the_o case_n require_v and_o than_o schoolman_n use_v and_o indeed_o i_o like_v not_o divers_a of_o his_o conclusion_n as_o lib._n 2._o c._n 14._o fol._n 41._o quod_fw-la deus_fw-la necessitat_fw-la creaturas_fw-la singulas_fw-la activas_fw-la ad_fw-la quemlibet_fw-la actum_fw-la suum_fw-la it_o be_v suppose_v that_o hobbs_n by_o the_o same_o doctrine_n overthrow_v all_o the_o christian_a faith_n and_o i_o believe_v that_o his_o doctrine_n there_o fol._n 41._o and_o elsewhere_o for_o merit_n and_o how_o temporale_fw-la sit_fw-la causa_fw-la praedestinationis_fw-la aeternae_fw-la will_v displease_v some_o and_o his_o distinction_n of_o mortal_a and_o venial_a sin_n as_o li._n 3._o c._n 5._o fol._n 52._o and_o that_o he_o make_v final_a impenitence_n the_o sin_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o that_o none_o can_v know_v what_o sin_n be_v mortal_a in_o we_o and_o what_o not_o and_o cap._n 6._o concedi_fw-la potest_fw-la quod_fw-la multi_fw-la praesciti_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o gratia_fw-la secundum_fw-la praesentem_fw-la justitiam_fw-la it_o may_v be_v grant_v that_o many_o reprobate_n be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o grace_n according_a to_o their_o present_a righteousness_n praesciti_fw-la autem_fw-la nunquam_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o gratia_fw-la finalis_fw-la perseverantiae_fw-la the_o reprobate_n be_v never_o in_o the_o grace_n of_o final_a perseverance_n so_o that_o he_o hold_v that_o present_a true_a grace_n be_v lose_v by_o some_o as_o austin_n do_v which_o he_o explain_v cap._n 7._o and_o cap._n 8._o again_o he_o be_v at_o his_o omnia_fw-la eveniunt_fw-la necessitate_v absoluta_fw-la review_v what_o he_o have_v say_v and_o conclude_v that_o no_o man_n can_v do_v better_a than_o he_o do_v but_o he_o can_v if_o god_n will_v and_o deny_v not_o sin_n to_o be_v hereby_o necessitate_v etc._n etc._n §_o 12._o pag._n 115._o he_o again_o impenitent_o renew_v his_o slander_n of_o berengarius_fw-la as_o be_v against_o infant-baptism_n concern_v who_o say_v usher_n de_fw-fr success_n eccles_n cap._n 7._o p._n 207._o author_n actorum_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o author_n of_o the_o act_n of_o bruno_n find_v in_o the_o library_n of_o the_o noble_a baron_fw-fr carew_n of_o clopton_n who_o say_v he_o be_v at_o this_o examination_n say_v that_o they_o some_o of_o berengarius_fw-la follower_n say_v that_o baptism_n profit_v not_o child_n to_o salvation_n as_o also_o deodvinus_n leodiensis_n first_o from_o common_a fame_n and_o then_o guitmundus_n arch._n aversanus_fw-la on_o the_o credit_n of_o leodiensis_n report_n that_o bruno_n andegavensis_n &_o berengarius_fw-la turonensis_n quantum_fw-la in_o ipsis_fw-la erat_fw-la baptismum_fw-la parvulorum_fw-la evertisse_fw-la do_v as_o much_o as_o in_o they_o lie_v overthrow_v the_o baptism_n of_o child_n but_o we_o find_v no_o charge_n ever_o bring_v against_o berengarius_fw-la concern_v anabaptism_n in_o so_o many_o synod_n as_o be_v hold_v against_o he_o nor_o do_v they_o seem_v to_o have_v deny_v any_o thing_n else_o who_o be_v say_v to_o deny_v that_o baptism_n profit_v little_a one_o to_o salvation_n but_o that_o baptism_n confer_v grace_n ex_fw-la opere_fw-la operato_fw-la as_o gather_v from_o the_o apostle_n word_n he_o that_o plant_v and_o he_o that_o water_v be_v nothing_o but_o god_n that_o give_v the_o increase_n so_o alanus_n li._n 1._o cont_n haerâ—t_fw-la svi_fw-la temp_n take_v they_o as_o if_o they_o have_v say_v baptism_n have_v no_o efficacy_n either_o on_o young_a or_o old_a therefore_o mâ—n_z be_v not_o bind_v to_o be_v baptize_v and_o that_o this_o be_v the_o plain_a case_n be_v provable_a in_o that_o it_o be_v just_a the_o case_n of_o wickliff_n and_o the_o waldenses_n who_o be_v say_v to_o do_v as_o much_o as_o in_o they_o lay_v to_o cast_v out_o infant-baptism_n because_o they_o think_v that_o every_o wicked_a priest_n do_v not_o sanctify_v they_o ex_fw-la opere_fw-la operato_fw-la and_o infallible_o convey_v god_n grace_n to_o the_o unprepared_a but_o his_o proof_n be_v 1._o the_o magdeb._n tell_v we_o that_o berengarius_fw-la maintain_v his_o heresy_n which_o they_o set_v down_o to_o be_v deny_v transubstantiation_n and_o baptism_n to_o little_a one_o under_o five_o head_n which_o lanfrank_a archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n answer_v at_o large_a in_o his_o book_n call_v scintillaris_n and_o as_o to_o that_o of_o deny_v infant-baptism_n he_o answer_v by_o say_v he_o do_v thereby_o oppose_v the_o general_a doctrine_n and_o universal_a consent_n of_o the_o church_n answ_n 1._o i_o have_v not_o the_o magdeb._n at_o hand_n but_o he_o have_v little_a to_o do_v that_o will_v ask_v illyricus_n and_o gallus_n and_o amsdorfius_n what_o lanfrank_n write_v if_o he_o have_v his_o book_n before_o he_o the_o publisher_n of_o lanfrank_n book_n against_o berengarius_fw-la give_v we_o notice_n of_o no_o other_o trithemius_n de_fw-fr script_n eccles_n know_v of_o no_o other_o but_o this_o which_o be_v in_o bibl._n patr._n tom._n 6._o p._n 190._o and_o i_o have_v look_v over_o every_o line_n of_o it_o such_o labour_n do_v these_o man_n put_v we_o to_o and_o i_o find_v not_o one_o word_n where_o any_o such_o thing_n be_v mention_v by_o lanfrank_n but_o only_o his_o accusation_n of_o ber._n about_o transubstantiation_n he_o never_o once_o charge_v he_o as_o deny_v infant-baptism_n nor_o mention_v it_o see_v reader_n into_o what_o hand_n the_o poor_a seduce_v one_o be_v fall_v §_o 13._o his_o
kingdom_n at_o the_o first_o p._n 72_o sect._n 46._o infant_n church-membership_a continue_a or_o renew_v by_o the_o first_o law_n of_o grace_n make_v to_o adam_n gen._n 3.15_o to_o sect._n 49._o christ_n be_v the_o head_n in_o infancy_n prove_v what_o it_o be_v bring_v for_o and_o force_v mr._n t._n to_o grant_v the_o cause_n p._n 81_o sect._n 49._o the_o same_o prove_v by_o the_o exposition_n of_o this_o covenant_n in_o that_o make_v to_o abraham_n vindicate_v against_o mr._n t._n who_o again_o forsake_v his_o cause_n p._n 97_o sect._n 50._o no_o proof_n that_o there_o be_v ever_o one_o church-member_n who_o in_o that_o state_n have_v a_o infant_n bear_v to_o he_o who_o be_v not_o also_o a_o church-member_n p._n 104_o sect._n 51_o 52._o how_o far_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n prove_v what_o i_o assert_v the_o church-state_n of_o infant_n no_o disadvantage_n but_o a_o great_a benefit_n wherein_o prove_v to_o sect._n 59_o p._n 105_o sect._n 60._o more_o particular_a proof_n as_o of_o cain_n abel_n seth_n noah_n son_n etc._n etc._n p._n 116_o sect._n 70_o to_o 79._o prove_v the_o point_n full_o from_o the_o covenant_n with_o abraham_n p._n 124_o sect._n 79_o to_o 86._o the_o point_n prove_v by_o the_o promise_n to_o the_o israelite_n a_o virtual_a cause_n may_v be_v long_o in_o be_v before_o it_o be_v formal_o a_o cause_n and_o may_v cause_v at_o last_o without_o any_o change_n in_o itself_o but_o in_o the_o recipient_a p._n 130_o sect._n 86._o the_o proof_n from_o the_o second_o commandment_n vindicate_v p._n 135_o sect._n 87_o to_o 93._o proof_n from_o divers_a other_o text_n p._n 137_o sect._n 93_o to_o 96._o the_o case_n of_o infant_n in_o the_o womb_n p._n 140_o sect._n 96_o 97._o these_o statute_n not_o repeal_v mr._n t.'s_n conceit_n that_o god_n promise_n can_v be_v repeal_v confute_v p._n 141_o sect._n 98_o to_o 107._o divers_a question_n offer_v to_o consideration_n p._n 145_o sect._n 107_o etc._n etc._n ten_o humble_v question_n to_o mr._n t._n publish_v by_o himself_o against_o my_o will_n p._n 157_o the_o full_a proof_n from_o the_o new_a testament_n only_o name_v as_o be_v before_o handle_v p._n 159_o a_o confutation_n of_o the_o many_o argument_n by_o which_o mr._n t._n will_v prove_v that_o infant_n be_v not_o church-member_n under_o christ_n p._n 161_o the_o content_n of_o the_o second_o part._n the_o preface_n sect._n 1_o of_o controversy_n how_o far_o good_a or_o bad_a with_o who_o sharp_a rebuke_n and_o earnest_n contend_v be_v a_o duty_n and_o with_o who_o not_o and_o who_o duty_n it_o be_v p._n 185_o sect._n 2._o of_o the_o weight_n of_o the_o present_a controversy_n that_o we_o make_v it_o not_o great_a or_o less_o than_o it_o be_v and_o the_o state_n of_o it_o in_o part_n p._n 198_o chap._n 1._o the_o occasion_n of_o this_o book_n from_o mr._n danvers_n p._n 211_o chap._n 2._o more_o of_o my_o present_a judgement_n of_o the_o anabaptist_n and_o their_o cause_n with_o a_o motion_n to_o they_o for_o communion_n and_o peace_n p._n 216_o chap._n 3._o a_o general_a view_n of_o mr._n danvers_n book_n p._n 234_o chap._n 4._o mr._n danvers_n witness_n against_o infant-baptism_n his_o sad_a forgery_n against_o the_o donatist_n detect_v his_o marvellous_a falsification_n of_o augustine_n third_n and_o four_o book_n against_o they_o the_o bapt_v the_o say_v book_n vindicate_v they_o prove_v that_o the_o donatist_n consent_v to_o infant-baptism_n and_o that_o the_o whole_a church_n hold_v it_o and_o no_o christian_a think_v it_o vain_a his_o forgery_n against_o vincentius_n victor_n his_o slander_n of_o cresconius_n his_o slander_n of_o all_o the_o novatian_o his_o slander_n of_o the_o ancient_a britain_n detect_v his_o reason_n for_o the_o britain_n be_v against_o infant-baptism_n confute_v where_o many_o more_o untruth_n be_v detect_v of_o they_o and_o many_o other_o his_o forgery_n or_o false_a story_n of_o the_o messalian_o call_v by_o he_o dado_n sabas_n adulphus_n simonis_n his_o slander_n of_o faustus_n rhegiensis_n his_o deceit_n about_o albanus_n his_o gross_a falsification_n of_o nicephorus_n and_o slander_n of_o peter_n of_o apamea_n and_o zooras_n his_o false_a story_n of_o adrian_n bishop_n of_o corinth_n and_o his_o false_a report_n of_o gregory_n deal_n with_o he_o his_o fable_n of_o egyptian_a divine_n his_o fiction_n about_o one_o berinius_n and_o his_o falsification_n of_o beda_n concern_v he_o his_o forgery_n about_o hincmarus_n laudunensis_n and_o of_o hincmarus_n rhemensis_n charge_n against_o he_o his_o slander_n of_o the_o waldenses_n heretofore_o detect_v and_o further_o by_o nauclerus_fw-la a_o reference_n to_o our_o former_a proof_n of_o the_o antiquity_n of_o infant-baptism_n nazianzens_n judgement_n his_o audacious_a abuse_n of_o cyprian_a and_o the_o carthage_n council_n my_o repeat_v assertion_n of_o the_o novelty_n of_o antipedobaptism_n p._n 239_o chap._n 5._o mr._n d.'s_n great_a calumny_n of_o myself_o refute_v as_o if_o i_o have_v false_o report_v that_o some_o at_o that_o time_n be_v baptize_v naked_a p._n 281_o chap._n 6._o his_o abusive_a citation_n of_o my_o write_n as_o for_o his_o cause_n p._n 285_o chap._n 7._o his_o many_o personal_a accusation_n of_o i_o examine_v whence_o it_o be_v that_o so_o many_o bold_o speak_v evil_a of_o the_o thing_n they_o know_v not_o his_o reproach_n of_o every_o one_o of_o my_o nonconforming_a brethren_n that_o my_o doctrine_n in_o the_o particular_n accuse_v by_o he_o be_v heinous_a to_o every_o one_o of_o they_o when_o i_o remember_v not_o any_o one_o of_o they_o that_o have_v ever_o to_o i_o express_v his_o dissent_n much_o less_o endeavour_v to_o change_v my_o judgement_n but_o many_o that_o have_v profess_v their_o approbation_n his_o vain_a talk_n of_o my_o be_v lose_v with_o my_o friend_n by_o which_o he_o imply_v that_o they_o be_v hypocrite_n in_o conceal_v it_o and_o will_v make_v i_o one_o in_o seek_v the_o applause_n of_o man_n his_o many_o falsehood_n in_o his_o accusation_n of_o self-contradiction_n and_o mutability_n 1._o about_o episcopacy_n 2._o about_o nonconformity_n what_o he_o mean_v by_o my_o shelter_a myself_o in_o their_o tent_n in_o a_o storm_n and_o with_o their_o indulgence_n come_v forth_o of_o my_o hole_n 3_o of_o my_o friendship_n to_o calvin_n and_o arminius_n 4._o of_o the_o parliament_n cause_n etc._n etc._n 5._o of_o tradition_n 6._o of_o popery_n 7._o whether_o a_o controversy_n may_v have_v difficult_a objection_n against_o plain_a proof_n his_o catalogue_n of_o my_o heinous_a error_n a_o just_a demand_n from_o the_o nonconformist_n if_o there_o be_v any_o such_o who_o he_o do_v not_o slander_v and_o from_o himself_o p._n 288_o chap._n 8._o the_o new_a religion_n of_o my_o backbiter_n or_o a_o catalogue_n of_o some_o doctrine_n of_o mr._n danvers_n and_o the_o rest_n that_o join_v in_o his_o accusation_n of_o my_o write_n if_o indeed_o they_o hold_v the_o contrary_n to_o that_o which_o they_o accuse_v as_o their_o accusation_n seem_v to_o suppose_v viz._n fifty_o six_o new_a commandment_n and_o doctrine_n the_o good_a that_o these_o man_n do_v p._n 313_o chap._n 9_o mr._n william_n allens_n vindication_n of_o himself_o against_o mr._n d.'s_n misreport_n and_o my_o testimony_n concern_v mr._n allen_n and_o mr._n lamb._n p._n 333_o conclusion_n a_o admonition_n to_o mr._n danvers_n for_o his_o repentance_n p._n 337_o the_o content_n of_o the_o three_o part._n chap._n 1._o the_o frightful_a aspect_n of_o his_o reply_n p._n 345_o chap._n 2._o his_o impenitent_a false_a allegation_n of_o witness_n against_o infant-baptism_n of_o tertullian_n whether_o cyprian_n doctrine_n be_v antichristian_a wickliff_n vindicate_v at_o large_a from_o his_o express_a word_n berengarius_fw-la vindicate_v p._n 349_o chap._n 3._o mr._n d.'s_n justification_n of_o his_o slander_n of_o the_o waldenses_n confute_v his_o witness_n examine_v and_o his_o unfaithfulness_n open_v and_o the_o case_n of_o the_o waldenses_n more_o large_o explicate_v p._n 379_o chap._n 4._o his_o impenitence_n in_o calumniate_a the_o donatist_n and_o novatian_n as_o against_o infant-baptism_n reprehend_v p._n 400_o chap._n 5._o his_o renew_a calumny_n of_o the_o old_a britain_n reprove_v p._n 402_o chap._n 6._o his_o rash_a report_n of_o bishop_n usher_n censure_n of_o i_o consider_v p._n 404_o postscript_n the_o testimony_n of_o smaragdus_n full_o open_v and_o the_o report_n of_o peter_n abbas_n cluniacensis_fw-la and_o bernard_n abbas_n clarevallensis_n their_o weak_a disingenuous_a course_n of_o print_v my_o word_n as_o against_o myself_o in_o a_o sheet_n call_v mr._n baxters_n argument_n etc._n etc._n cry_v about_o the_o street_n as_o if_o the_o necessity_n of_o profess_a faith_n for_o ourselves_o will_v prove_v that_o our_o profess_a faith_n and_o dedicate_a they_o to_o god_n be_v not_o sufficient_a for_o the_o baptismal_a reception_n of_o our_o infant_n p._n 407_o reader_n my_o pain_n and_o great_a business_n deny_v i_o time_n
b._n the_o second_o proposition_n to_o be_v prove_v be_v 〈…〉_z israelite_n child_n be_v 〈◊〉_d of_o â—he_n universal_a visible_a church_n of_o christ_n as_o well_o â—s_a â—â—_o the_o congregation_n of_o israel_n but_o this_o you_o do_v heretofore_o acknowledge_v and_o therefore_o i_o suppose_v will_v not_o now_o deny_v i_o suppose_v it_o past_a controversy_n between_o we_o 1._o that_o christ_n have_v then_o a_o church_n on_o earth_n as_o abraham_n see_v christ_n day_n and_o rejoice_v and_o moses_n suffer_v the_o reproach_n of_o christ_n heb._n 11.26_o and_o the_o prophet_n inquire_v of_o the_o salvation_n by_o christ_n and_o search_v diligent_o and_o prophesy_v of_o the_o grace_n to_o come_v and_o it_o be_v the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v in_o those_o prophet_n signify_v the_o time_n and_o testify_v beforehand_o the_o suffering_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o glory_n that_o shall_v follow_v 1_o pet._n 1.10_o 11._o so_o be_v they_o part_v of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o member_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o give_v for_o the_o edification_n of_o that_o body_n though_o it_o be_v reveal_v to_o they_o that_o the_o high_a privilege_n of_o the_o church_n after_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n be_v not_o for_o they_o but_o for_o we_o 1_o pet._n 1.12.2_o i_o suppose_v it_o agree_v on_o also_o between_o we_o that_o there_o be_v no_o true_a church_n or_o ecclesiastical_a worship_a society_n appoint_v by_o god_n in_o all_o the_o world_n since_o the_o fall_n but_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o therefore_o either_o infant_n be_v member_n of_o christ_n church_n or_o of_o no_o church_n of_o god_n institution_n moses_n church_n and_o christ_n church_n according_a to_o god_n institution_n be_v not_o two_o but_o one_o church_n for_o moses_n be_v christsvsher_n and_o his_o ceremony_n be_v a_o obscure_a gospel_n to_o lead_v man_n to_o christ_n and_o though_o the_o foolish_a jew_n by_o misunderstanding_n they_o make_v a_o separation_n and_o make_v moses_n disciple_n to_o be_v separate_a from_o christ_n disciple_n and_o so_o set_v up_o the_o alone_o shadow_v of_o thing_n to_o come_v yet_o the_o body_n be_v all_o of_o christ_n col._n 2.17_o and_o by_o so_o do_v they_o violate_v god_n institution_n and_o unchurcht_v themselves_o 3._o i_o suppose_v it_o agree_v also_o that_o christ_n church_n be_v but_o one_o and_o that_o even_o those_o of_o all_o age_n that_o be_v not_o at_o once_o visible_a yet_o make_v up_o one_o body_n 4._o and_o that_o therefore_o whoever_o be_v a_o member_n of_o any_o particular_a church_n be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o universal_a though_o the_o church_n be_v more_o eminent_o call_v catholic_n when_o the_o wall_n of_o separation_n be_v take_v down_o but_o i_o remember_v i_o have_v prove_v this_o in_o my_o book_n part_n 1._o chap._n 20._o and_o therefore_o shall_v say_v no_o more_o now_o mr._n it_o be_v answer_n the_o two_o first_o be_v grant_v to_o the_o three_o though_o whoever_o be_v a_o member_n of_o any_o particular_a church_n be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o universal_a yet_o it_o follow_v not_o which_o mr._n b._n drive_v at_o and_o vain_o talk_v of_o his_o prove_v that_o every_o one_o who_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n in_o that_o he_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n particular_a be_v a_o visible_a member_n of_o every_o particular_a visible_a church_n of_o christ_n 2._o nor_o that_o every_o one_o that_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n in_o that_o he_o be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o visible_a particular_a church_n of_o christ_n be_v a_o visible_a member_n of_o the_o jewish_a particular_a church_n etc._n etc._n reply_n 1._o none_o of_o this_o ever_o come_v into_o my_o thought_n which_o he_o untrue_o say_v i_o drive_v at_o etc._n etc._n what_o sober_a man_n can_v imagine_v either_o of_o these_o assertion_n what_o pitiful_a abuse_n of_o ignorant_a reader_n be_v this_o 2._o and_o what_o a_o poor_a put_v off_o to_o the_o point_n in_o hand_n that_o which_o i_o say_v be_v but_o that_o all_o particular_a visible_a church_n and_o member_n make_v up_o one_o visible_a universal_a church_n and_o therefore_o every_o visible_a member_n of_o any_o particular_a church_n be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o universal_a he_o dare_v not_o deny_v this_o and_o yet_o a_o slander_n serve_v his_o turn_n sect_n xii_o r._n b._n concern_v the_o matter_n of_o the_o three_o question_n i_o assert_v that_o it_o be_v not_o only_o of_o the_o jew_n commonwealth_n that_o infant_n werâ—_n member_n but_o of_o the_o church_n distinct_a from_o it_o this_o be_v prove_v sufficient_o in_o what_o be_v say_v before_o mr._n it_o be_v answer_n as_o yet_o i_o find_v it_o not_o prove_v that_o the_o jewish_a church_n be_v distinct_a from_o the_o commonwealth_n or_o that_o there_o be_v not_o any_o member_n of_o the_o church_n who_o be_v not_o of_o thâ—_n commonwealth_n reply_n 1._o it_o be_v only_o a_o formal_a and_o not_o a_o material_a distinction_n that_o i_o meddle_v with_o the_o formal_a reason_n of_o a_o church-member_n and_o a_o civil-member_n differ_v at_o least_o after_o the_o choice_n of_o king_n when_o the_o republic_n be_v constitute_v by_o a_o humane_a head_n of_o which_o i_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o mr._n galuspie_n aaron_n rod_n if_o the_o jew_n commonwealth_n be_v specify_v as_o a_o theocracy_n from_o god_n the_o sovereign_n the_o sichemite_n be_v of_o it_o and_o other_o nation_n may_v 2._o but_o many_o say_v that_o some_o be_v of_o the_o commonwealth_n that_o be_v not_o of_o the_o church_n though_o not_o contrary_o and_o be_v they_o distinct_a or_o not_o it_o suffice_v i_o that_o infant_n be_v of_o the_o church_n sect_n xiii_o fourteen_o xv_o xvi_o r._n b._n moreover_o 1._o infant_n be_v church-member_n in_o abraham_n family_n before_o circumcision_n and_o after_o when_o it_o be_v no_o commonwealth_n so_o they_o be_v in_o isaac_n jacob_n etc._n etc._n 2._o the_o banish_a captivate_v scatter_v jew_n that_o cease_v to_o be_v member_n 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and_o all_o their_o posterity_n to_o cease_v that_o usage_n as_o soon_o as_o they_o be_v out_o of_o abraham_n house_n when_o yet_o history_n assure_v we_o that_o they_o long_o continue_v it_o or_o whether_o god_n will_v have_v they_o circumcise_a and_o yet_o be_v no_o church-member_n believe_v as_o evidence_n constrain_v thou_o sect_n xviii_o r._n b._n to_o the_o four_o question_n i_o assert_v that_o 1._o there_o be_v a_o law_n or_o precept_n of_o god_n oblige_v the_o parent_n to_o enter_v their_o child_n into_o covenant_n with_o god_n by_o accept_v his_o favour_n and_o reingaging_a and_o devote_v they_o to_o god_n and_o so_o enter_v they_o solemn_o church-member_n and_o 2._o there_o be_v a_o covenant_n promise_n or_o grant_v of_o god_n by_o which_o he_o offer_v the_o church-membership_a of_o some_o infant_n and_o actual_o confer_v it_o where_o
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this_o honour_n moreover_o in_o gen._n 9.27_o in_o japhets_n blessing_n there_o be_v much_o though_o in_o few_o word_n to_o this_o purpose_n intimate_v first_o note_v that_o the_o jewish_a church_n be_v call_v the_o tent_n of_o shem._n from_o whence_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o church_n privilege_n of_o that_o people_n begin_v not_o with_o or_o from_o abraham_n but_o be_v before_o and_o that_o it_o be_v the_o same_o church_n that_o be_v of_o shem_n and_o of_o abraham_n and_o after_o all_o the_o additional_a promise_n to_o abraham_n the_o jewish_a church_n be_v still_o denominate_v the_o tent_n of_o shem_n now_o they_o be_v the_o tent_n of_o shem_n before_o abraham_n day_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v clear_a that_o it_o be_v the_o same_o church_n must_v be_v suppose_v to_o have_v the_o same_o sort_n of_o member_n or_o material_n and_o therefore_o infant_n must_v be_v member_n before_o abraham_n day_n as_o well_o as_o after_o that_o church_n which_o be_v shems_n tent_n have_v infant_n church-member_n for_o the_o jew_n church_n be_v so_o call_v into_o which_o japhet_n be_v to_o pass_v but_o the_o church_n both_o before_o and_o after_o abraham_n be_v shems_n tent_n ergo._fw-la yet_o further_o let_v it_o here_o be_v note_v that_o it_o be_v into_o shems_n tent_n that_o japhet_n must_v pass_v i_o suppose_v that_o the_o evidence_n be_v better_a here_o for_o that_o exposition_n that_o apply_v the_o word_n dwell_v to_o japhet_n than_o to_o god_n and_o so_o that_o this_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o conversion_n of_o the_o gentile_n as_o many_o expositor_n have_v clear_v at_o large_a and_o so_o as_o ainsworth_n say_v the_o sense_n be_v that_o japhet_n shall_v be_v unite_a with_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n the_o posterity_n of_o shem_n which_o be_v fulfil_v when_o the_o gentile_n become_v joynt-heir_n and_o of_o the_o same_o body_n and_o joynt-partaker_n of_o god_n promise_n in_o christ_n the_o stop_n of_o the_o partition-wall_n be_v break_v down_o etc._n etc._n ephes_n 3.6_o &_o 2.14_o 19_o although_o it_o may_v further_o imply_v the_o graft_n of_o japhet_n child_n into_o the_o stock_n of_o the_o church_n when_o shems_n posterity_n shall_v be_v cut_v off_o etc._n etc._n vid._n ult_n now_o if_o it_o be_v shem_n tent_n even_o the_o same_o church_n that_o japhets_n child_n must_v dwell_v in_o then_o as_o shems_n infant_n be_v church-member_n so_o must_v japhet_n and_o not_o all_o his_o infant_n seed_n be_v cast_v or_o leave_v out_o so_o that_o here_o be_v a_o promise_n of_o infant_n church-membership_a unto_o the_o gentile_n in_o these_o word_n reply_n to_o all_o this_o the_o sum_n of_o mr._n t._n be_v answer_n be_v 1._o a_o denial_n of_o the_o sense_n give_v of_o some_o text_n which_o i_o leave_v to_o the_o reader_n examination_n be_v resolve_v not_o to_o tire_v he_o with_o a_o tedious_a reply_n 2._o he_o grant_v that_o their_o person_n be_v bless_v god_n their_o god_n and_o their_o seed_n in_o the_o church_n as_o if_o god_n open_a covenant_n and_o promise_n make_v they_o not_o visible_a member_n but_o invisible_a sect_n lxx_o to_o lxxix_o r._n b._n we_o come_v next_o to_o the_o promise_v make_v to_o abraham_n which_o i_o shall_v say_v the_o less_o to_o because_o you_o confess_v it_o but_o again_o note_n that_o whereas_o yourself_o make_v the_o beginning_n of_o god_n take_v the_o jew_n to_o be_v his_o people_n and_o so_o of_o infant_n to_o be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n to_o be_v at_o abraham_n call_n from_o ur_fw-la 1._o there_o be_v no_o one_o word_n of_o that_o in_o the_o text._n 2._o lot_z come_v out_o of_o ur_fw-la with_o abraham_n yea_o and_o from_o haran_n and_o live_v with_o he_o be_v not_o lot_n and_o his_o infant_n church-member_n then_o 3._o the_o chief_a note_n i_o intend_v be_v this_o that_o there_o be_v no_o more_o say_v then_o to_o prove_v infant_n church-member_n than_o what_o we_o have_v show_v be_v say_v long_o before_o and_o be_v say_v after_o of_o the_o gentile_n infant_n no_o nor_o so_o much_o if_o therefore_o the_o 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last_o mention_v and_o the_o follow_a bear_n witness_n gen._n 12.2_o 3._o in_o thou_o shall_v all_o family_n of_o the_o earth_n be_v bless_v and_o gen._n 17.7_o 9_o 10._o and_o i_o will_v establish_v my_o covenant_n between_o i_o and_o thou_o and_o thy_o seed_n after_o thou_o and_o i_o will_v be_v their_o god_n and_o god_n say_v to_o abraham_n thou_o shall_v keep_v my_o covenant_n therefore_o thou_o and_o thy_o seed_n after_o thou_o in_o their_o generation_n this_o be_v my_o covenant_n which_o you_o shall_v keep_v between_o i_o and_o you_o etc._n etc._n to_o vers_fw-la 15._o in_o all_o this_o let_v these_o thing_n be_v note_v 1._o that_o here_o be_v a_o express_a promise_n or_o covenant_n to_o abraham_n and_o his_o seed_n after_o
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have_v leave_v it_o indifferent_a and_o to_o their_o liberty_n but_o that_o they_o leave_v one_o another_o at_o liberty_n herein_o because_o 1._o the_o first_o and_o great_a work_n be_v in_o settle_v the_o church_n by_o convert_v jew_n and_o gentile_n to_o the_o faith_n and_o the_o adult_n who_o be_v the_o active_a member_n be_v they_o that_o the_o apostle_n have_v most_o to_o do_v with_o and_o therefore_o who_o case_n be_v express_o speak_v of_o 2._o because_o it_o be_v a_o know_a thing_n that_o the_o infant_n of_o church-member_n have_v ever_o be_v church-member_n and_o be_v in_o possession_n of_o that_o relation_n when_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n set_v up_o baptism_n 3._o and_o it_o be_v a_o grant_v case_n that_o all_o sanctify_a person_n devote_v themselves_o and_o all_o that_o they_o have_v to_o god_n and_o every_o thing_n according_a to_o its_o capacity_n and_o therefore_o their_o infant_n according_a to_o their_o capacity_n which_o god_n himself_o have_v before_o expound_v 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