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A89922 The Christian and Catholike veritie; or, The reasons and manner of the conversion of Francis de Neville; formerly a Capuchin, preacher, the Popes missionary, and superiour in sundry covents of the same order. A treatise very usefull for all Christians, and especially for such as are popishly affected, or not fully setled in their beliefe; and for the further confirmation of the faithfull. Wherein many secrets of the Romish clergy, heretofore unrevealed, are discovered. Dedicated by the author to the high court of Parliament now assembled, 1642. See the contents at the next page. Neville, Francis de.; England and Wales. Parliament. 1642 (1642) Wing N502; Thomason E144_15; ESTC R11352 153,461 187

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when the Emperours were far distant and taken up in other places with warres and troubles and had neither meanes nor power to oppose or contradict that Election And when they did oppose themselves it had often divers successes and occasioned many sad Histories and lamentable Tragedies But in the end the power and riches of the Emperour diminishing by their dissolute life and the revolting of Princes their subjects and the Church of Rome growing continually in riches and wealth through the too simple devotion and liberalitie of many Princes the whole power of the Election of the Pope came to the Cardinalls who in the beginning were the chiefest and richest among the Clergy of the Citie of Rome and now are chosen out of divers Nations but more of Italy than of all the rest of the world together all of them bearing title of some Church in the Citie of Rome and by them alone at this present is the Pope chosen but with all the corruptions and abominations which can be imagined in the Election of a Potentate For when it is in question to make a new Pope there is no passion that is not set on worke there is no indirect means left unassayed no symony that is not committed The Pope being dead all is in disorder and confusion in the Citie of Rome every vice and crime is committed there without punishment or inquiry all revenge practised the Officers made by the defunct Pope having no more power there is sixteene or seventeene dayes allotted to the Cardinalls to conveene and enter into the Conclave which is a place furnished with Chambers and little roomes fitted for the Election Those who pretend to be Pope make commonly many faire promises to obtaine the voices of the Electors to some they promise their Pallaces to others Offices and Benefices to some the advancement of their kindred in a word all they can imagine profitable to themselves The Cardinalls Nephewes of the defunct Popes as the richest and most potent of the Romish Church being inriched and made great by the favour and power of their Unkles have each of them their factions and Caballs apart composed of those who are ingaged to them by benefits and curtesies received and pretended or in favour of the Cardinalls cap or some other gratifications given them by the Popes their Unkles not speaking of their alliances and other considerations of neernesse they have among them After that is the faction of Princes of the Emperour the King of France Spaine and Poland of the Princes and Reipublicks of Italy who by their Embassadours and Pentioners labour all of them to have a Pope that favoureth the greatnesse of their estates Last of all is the Faction which they call of spiritualls which are they that endeavour to choose for Pope him whom according to their conscience they thinke most proper and fit and whom they beleeve will be most profitable for the Church But this number is commonly very small and in the Election of Pope Vrban the eighth who at this present holdeth the chaire of the Bishop of Rome of fifty-three Cardinalls who were present in the Conclave for the Election a Gentleman of the Romish Church at that time residing at Rome who hath faithfully written the History which is publikely to be seen in the Booke of the Empires and States of the world saith that there were but three in all of the spirituall faction which aymed onely at the Election of the best without considering the Intrest of France or Spaine or any particular benefit or utilitie And also after the same or a worse manner have all the modern Elections been which I have read as yee may see more amply in the Books that are written thereof so common in the world as they need not be specified by me Now as the faction of those good and spirituall men who ayme onely to choose the best and most proper is questionlesse ever the least and weakest and as the worldly factions are ever the greatest and strongest it is needlesse to aske what doth ordinarily follow and it is a marvell if a good and impartiall and not factious be chosen for Pope I speak even according to the beliefe of the Romish Church They speak indeed a little of the holy Spirit and invoke his assistance but that is onely with their lips and for ceremony the holy Spirit shunning such corrupt company that is so little disposed to receive his motions thence cometh it that they are sometimes moneths yeares yea ten twenty thirty or forty yeares they cannot nor will not agree and some of them make one Pope others another this Pope creating his Cardinalls and Bishops and the other his with what disorder and scandall to all Christians I leave you to judge the Earth oftentimes bleeding at their execrations And I may truely say that almost all the Popes are created by symony for all the Princes well knowing by many experiences that the Election of the Popes is seldome according to the lawes of conscience but by corruption and favour they are obliged to entertaine expresly for that end Pentioners amongst the Cardinalls to whom they give yearly Pensions or some fat Benefices of their disposition and so buy their voyces that at the Election they may have a Pope of their faction The rich and powerfull Cardinalls who are commonly the Nephewes of the defunct practise the same with those who are poore labouring to gaine and possesse their Suffrages either by benefits received or hope to receive not indeed to be Popes because their families would become too great and eat up others but to reigne under the name of some other whom they caused to be elected The Cardinalls who pretend to be Pope spare nothing commonly to captivate to themselves voyces and friends and because oftentimes they be not very rich they are content to promise more than they have a minde to performe yea more than they are able So by all those fashions which are most common and ordinary there is almost not one who is not chosen by symony and consequently who entreth not in the Sheepfold not as a good Pastour by the doore but as a ravenous Wolfe breaking the wall to feed and fill himselfe with the bloud and substance of the Sheepe and not to feed them with the nourishment and food of life And because they use before the Election to reade some Bulls which thunder out the most fearfull excommunications and anathema's is possible against all those who proceed to this election by direct or indirect symony or any other crooked or unlawfull courses declaring them unfit and uncapable of any Ecclesiasticall Office or Benefice there are almost none of those elected who are not anathamatized with most terrible excommunications and by those Bulls made uncapable to keep the Office so that even thereby their election is voide and their possession of no force and unjust and all exercise of their power invalid but are even irregular so often as
reasons set down in so easie a stile that the most simple may understand the same and when you have considered my doctrine J am assured you shall finde it Orthodox and truly Catholike altogether conformable to the doctrine of Jesus Christ and his Apostles which is the onely Catholike veritie and the onely intent of this Discourse Now I having lived so long time and converted amongst the Romish Church and had so many occasions and imployments to perceive and discover all the inventions subtilities abuses and deceits thereof I doubt not but J shall speak many things unknowne to those who have not lived amongst them and many even of those who lives amongst them are ignorant of and many whereof an infinite multitude of persons otherwise of good natures and well bred take no notice at all and many things which most men know sufficiently and deplore following the same onely by a forced necessitie and many things also which divers maliciously dessemble and desire them not to be divulged And if the light of the truth which I purpose to set downe here be hurtfull to the eyes of any man questionlesse that will onely be to the bleere-eyed who have their sight troubled with some malignant humour and I am assured where it offendeth one it will please thirtie Although the Owles which delight onely in the night and darknesse cannot indure the light of the pleasant Sunne which God maketh to shine upon us he leaveth not off for that to display his beames upon the earth whence daily we see he produceth an infinite number of rare and marveilous effects and none can deny but that the Owles themselves receive often much good thereby J beseech the great God of light that the truth which I desire to write may be profitable both to the sicke and the whole to the eyes well disposed and those that are not and that this little Treatise which is written for all may be profitable to all J beg from my heart the grace and blessing of God to that end without which J acknowledge and confesse 1 Cor. 3.7 he who planteth or he who watereth is nothing nor can doe nothing To him therefore who is the Alpha and Omega the beginning and the end be all honour and glory Amen THE CHRISTIAN AND CATHOLIKE VERITIE CHAPTER I. How the Romish Church acknowledgeth no other Judge in matters of faith but the Pope ONe of the points which ever troubled my spirit most when I was of the Romish Church and ought certainly to move every wise and judicious man is that they make the Pope of Rome alone infallible Judge of that faith which hath been taught preached to us by Christ and his Apostles for howsoever they say and preach often to the simpler sort that it is the Church they hold for Judge yet they confesse that that Church is principally seene in generall Councells and that without the Pope of Rome of the Councells neither are nor make up the Church and have no power certaintie nor infallibilitie but by the Pope alone For although all the Bishops Patriarchs and Cardinalls yea all the Christians of the world were assembled they make not up they say a Church if the Pope be not present himselfe or by Deputy because holding him for head of the Church they are members without a head which cannot make up a body nor by consequent a Church and though they were all of one opinion in any point or Article of faith all will be errour if the Pope be of a contrary minde and all that the Pope declares to be or not to be a point of faith ought to be holden infallible even though the rest of the Church and Christians be of a different opinion And this is the common beliefe of the Romish Church which is to be seene in those Bookes they hold Orthodox and preached in their publick Sermons and though I know that many Prelates among them of great learning and even so many famous Universities grudge mightily thereat yet to publish or preach the contrary is declared a matter of Excommunication and Anathema Where yee may observe that it fareth not with the Councells of the Romish Church which they affirme to be the true Congregation of the faithfull as it doth with Parliaments or generall meetings of the States of Kingdomes where he that precedeth hath but one voice or two at the most and can neither pronounce sentence nor make any act but by the pluralitie of voices and suffrages of the Assembly so that whatsoever is ordered or enacted is justly said to be ordered and enacted by the Parliament or Assembly But it is not so in their Councells for although they discusse it may be and examine the question or point of beliefe all that neverthelesse is but in shew and ceremony for the Pope is not obliged to stand to the opinions and voices of the rest but he alone pronounceth the sentence maketh the act the point or Article of faith after his own fancy and mind so that whatsoever is concluded and enacted in matter of faith can onely be said to be concluded by the Pope alone the rest having neither power to hinder contradict or censure him nor refuse his ordinances except they will be reputed schismatickes and heretiques for as he saith of himselfe he is the Vicar of God on earth hath all the power of Jesus Christ and the Councell of Lateran ascribe to him that of our Saviour in Mat. 28.18 Mat. 28.18 All power is given to me in heaven and earth So it is wrongfully when they say the Church is Judge in matters of faith but they should say it is the Pope alone for such indeed is their common doctrine without which men must beleeve amongst them none can be saved Thus you see how all the faith of the Romish Church is grounded on no other foundation than the head and judgement of the Bishop of Rome who for the most part is wickedly chosen by indirect courses as simony and force having often times proved ignorant ungodly abhominable or at least politique and wise worldlings which is now adayes the condition most requisite to make a Pope who as I shall most cleerly shew hereafter hath no superioritie nor primacy over the Church nor infallibilitie promised by the word and institution of the Son of God to be a competent Judge in that as many great Bishops and Universities of the Romane Church acknowledge sufficiently and I my selfe have heard it of them and beleeve there is no man of good understanding in the world to whom this doctrine doth not seeme altogether extravagant and voyd of all sense and reason yet it is the beliefe of the Church of Rome without which they say none can be saved For my part I am perswaded that whosoever of the Romish Church will consider this point especially without passion and interest and sincerely seeke the truth and his owne salvation he cannot choose but yeeld as I have
reserved by the Pope alone to distribute to all christians and cannot commonly be obtained without a great deal of money especially for those who are remote from Rome and that for the explanation thereof we must submit to the Church that is to the Pope as I have already shewed So there is nothing but the explication of the Pope which can be a rule of faith and which is infallible doctrine and so the Pope maketh himself sole Judge of all matters of faith to determine that which is and that which is not is not this an intollerable extravagancy and worthy to be laught at by all men of understanding seeing it is without warrant from Gods word as may evidently appear The Pope saith then the Scriptures are very obscure and must not be holden for a rule of faith nor be read for fear of mistaking the meaning It is true that the Scripture consisting of many books written by divers authours at divers times yea and in divers ages and for divers ends contain great diversitie of style for in some places it is historicall in others propheticall in some metaphoricall in some morall and in some mingled and although all that is contained in those diversities of the holy Scriptures be written for our salvation as saith Saint Paul and we ought to make our profit thereof Rom. 13. neverthelesse it is not to be doubted there both are and ought to be many obscure things according to the nature and qualitie of the style in which the things are writren for prophesies parables and metaphors are ever accompanied with obscurity But as our Saviour did make but a short speech upon earth and having lived some 33 years preached but 3 or thereabouts during which small time he did preach and teach clearly and soundly all things which were necessary to salvation so that the most simple and ignorant might understand him and be sufficiently instructed by his sermons Neither is there any but Reprobates who will say that God being come to save mankind did not give sufficient instruction and clear enough for all men to be saved Otherwise how could he have condemned Corasin and Bethsaida and pronounced those words against those towns Matth. 11.20 c. Wo be unto thee Corasin wo be unto thee Bethsaida for if the mighty works which have been done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon they had repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes But I say unto thee that it shall be more tolerable for the land of Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgement then for thee And thou Capernaum if the mighty works which have been done in thee had been done in Sodom it would have remained unto this day But I say unto you that it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgement then for thee Out of all question those cities would have received clear and sufficient instructions for their salvation otherwise he would have condemned them wrongfully And if Christ Jesus did preach clearly all things necessary to salvation so that those who followed him and heard him preaching might attain to perfect faith The Evangelists having set down his life and doctrine to us especially that which was necessary and also endeavoured so farre as they were able to make the same known to us as clearly as our Saviour had preached it otherwise they should be very blameworthy and we should have great reason to except against them that our Saviour having preached a doctrine so clear and easie to be understood of all men they should have left it in so obscure and hard terms that none except the learned Divines were capable to understand what not the learned Theologians nay none I say in the world except one man to wit the Pope were able to understand and give its true meaning and explication No no it is blasphemy to imagine it but we must beleeve that the doctrine of the Evangelists being the same our Saviour preached is left to us with all the facilitie and clearnesse was possible and sufficient to instruct to true faith and salvation neither can they be blamed of any defect especially being directed and assisted by the holy Spirit to that end This impertinency also may be confuted by the onely reading of the Scripture and those who tax the same of obscurity or hardnesse do it undoubtedly out of malice or ignorance never having read it nor it may be never seen it whereof are an infinite multitude in the Romish Church For certainly it is so clear especially in those things which are necessary to our salvation that the most ignorant and simple may understand it and that oftentimes better then many learned whose presumption of their science seeking subtile and curious interpretations in the simple words of our Saviour beyond the purity and sincerity of his intentions are by his just judgement deprived of the true meaning of the same As the Sonne of God himself saith in those words Mat. 11.26 I thank thee O Father Lord of heaven and earth that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent and hast revealed them unto babes t is so Father because such hath been thy good pleasure And be assured no man how ignorant soever providing he hath common sence shall ever reade the holy Scripture with the spirit of simplicitie and a mind onely desirous to seek the way and means of salvation but the holy Spirit who hath indited the same will give him with a singular consolation and satisfaction an easie and clear knowledge of all things necessary to salvation But if any passages somewhat hard be found which is very rare in the Evangelists they may be passed over as not absolutely necessary or rather for greater satisfaction the opinion of learned men may be asked about it nor must we marvell if sometimes we find diversity in their explications for being matters not absolutely necessary nor touching the essence of Faith the controversie in such points is not of great importance But to say that we must instruct all and not read it for fear of mistaking some things is a meer invention of the Romish Church or rather of the Bishop of Rome who desiring to establish many articles of Faith to maintain his authority and the greatnesse riches of his estate and Clergy and seeing nothing clear in the holy Scripture to authorize his doctrine hath gone about to make Christians beleeve that the Scriptures were obscure and that it belongs to him onely to declare their true meaning and determine that which belongeth or belongeth not to faith and that they ought not so much as once presume to read them Further he hath straightly forbidden them under pain of Anathema and an eternall curse fearing lest the people coming once to read them should there find the condemnation of his false doctrine and the more prohibitions there are the more also is the gain and profit he maketh thereby upon those who
desire a dispensation and verily it seemeth that the doctrine of the Romish Church aimeth onely at greatnesse and profit so was the doctrine of indulgencies purgatory invocation of Saints and confession founded with others the like which we shall explain more amply hereafter Furthermore they say the Scripture is a dumb rule and therefore insufficient to be Judge which is a great injury done to the word of God and against both reason and practise for although the Kings edicts be in paper and have no voice notwithstanding they have as great power amongst the good subjects as if they were pronounced out of the Kings mouth and there is no man of understanding who will esteem them lesse for that to be sufficient rules and judges for matters contained therein When God commandeth to have no other gods but him nor to have no strange gods before his face is this a dumbe rule and hath it not as great power as when God pronounced it to the Prophet Moses upon Mount Sinai certainly a law hath as much or more force being put in writing and signed with the Kings hand or his Secretaries as if it were pronounced out of his mouth and if the King write or pronounce an act it is ever the same act and hath the like force It is therefore wrongfully and without reason they tax the word of God as an insufficient rule or judge because it is onely written for it hath the same power and force as if God did pronounce it every day from his mouth and so ought we to receive and respect it Now let us see if the commandment not to reade the Scriptures be just or not for the consideration thereof is of great importance CHAP. IV. That the holy Scripture is given us by God to read and meditate in the same and that the Prohibition of the Pope to read it is altogether unjust and contrary to the will of God A Malefactour who knoweth his fact to be condemned by the law apprehendeth nothing more than that the Judge cast his eye upon that Law wherein he knoweth his condemnation to be written so I perceive that the Pope seeing there is nothing that condemns his doctrine so much as the holy Scripture and the word of God feareth nothing more than that this Scripture come to be knowne and considered for which cause he hath done all he was able and planted his fiercest Batteries to hinder the reading thereof And in the last generall Councell at Trent where many Canons were made concerning bad and dangerous Books and many clausses and degrees of those Books the holy Scripture is placed in the first clausse and in the first Chapter as one of the most pernicious and dangerous Books in the world and by those Canons they who shall reade it in the vulgar tongue must incurre as great and greater malediction and Anathema as those who should kill their father and mother or reade the Alkoran or the most wicked filthy and detestable Booke in the world for a simple Priest or a Bishop can absolve a man from excōmunication for other things but to read the Bible in a vulgar tongue that is in English French Spanish or Dutch there is none except the Pope himselfe or his Deputy can absolve him and to have it in his house or to reade it in Spaine Italy or where the Inquisition reigneth is a fact that deserveth burning and the permission can be given by none but by the Pope so neither the Priests nor Doctors of the Universities nor all the Bishops of the world who call themselves the successours of the Apostles nor the Cardinalls of Rome themselves have power to reade the Scriptures and give License to others there is but one in the world to wit the Pope who hath that power because he holdeth that none but himselfe in the world can understand it well and know the meaning of it this seemeth to me a strange policy Now because the Pope who is but a man and is thought ordinarily to be inclined to his pleasures as much as any man in the world will not be troubled with those who aske License to reade the Scriptures he hath appointed at Rome a certaine company of Cardinalls called the Congregation of Cardinalls in matters of faith to whom he hath given permission to reade it and power to give License to those who aske and whom they shall thinke capable through the whole world So those of France Spaine England Hungary and Poland yea even of the East and West Indies who would have License to reade the Scriptures must according to the Canon of that Councell write or send to Rome either by themselves or by exchange and obtaine License in writing for that condition is expressed in the Prohibition and I my selfe had it in that sort which doubtlesse cannot be had in remote Countryes without great paines charges and time so that by this means the poore though they were the most capable and judicious the most zealous and affectionate Christians in the world are deprived of reading the Word of God it may be for ever in the Romish Church I know indeed a great many Bishops in that Church scorne that prohibition as altogether unjust and ridiculous and calling themselves the successors of the Apostles thinke they have sufficient authoritie by their office and dignitie to reade the Scriptures and to give license to those of their Diocesse whom they esteeme capable without sending to the Pope whom many among them hold onely for their equall But such is the order of that Councell held by them to be generall and called most holy and hath been confirmed since and made stricter by an expresse Bull such is also the practise of all the Orders and the resolution of their Canonists and the absolute will of the Bishop of Rome so that if he be universall Bishop and have power to command over all Christians as they affirme in the Romish Church this ought to have place and be obeyed by the Papists under paine of eternall damnation and Anathema This is also so exactly observed almost every where among them that hardly shall a Bible be found in an hundred houses yea there are many Priests and Pastors in whose houses it is not to be seene it may be was never seen and who have never read it I say not onely not wholly but who have never read one whole Chapter if it be not perchance in their Brevier or in the Booke of the Masse or other Books where some little parcells may be found If there be any Christians found who reade it in the vulgar tongue which they understand best besides the curses and Anathemaes that are thundred against them by the Romish Church they are imprisoned and in danger of death where the Inquisition is in force and are accounted commonly every where as heretickes or people who have an evill opinion of the Church although it were an impression and translation approved by themselves Thence out
when Printing did begin they being either lost or consumed by fire or time or by the Wormes or a multitude of other accidents which we see doth eat and consume the very stones and Iron Now those first Manuscripts have been copied out by divers Writers and that from hand to hand from time to time to be dispersed and preserved from age to age and run over Kingdoms and after a multitude of Transcriptions passed by example since our Saviours time to us how many faults and what alteration have been made in those Books and in the doctrine of those Fathers for there is no man almost how able soever who can brag that he can transcribe a sheet of paper without committing some one or more faults how many will there be then in a great Volume as one of St Augustins or St Chrysostoms And as those Clerks or Transcribers who were called Amanuenses were for the most part mercenary and did all for money and profit living by that trade it is likely they took not much care but thought onely upon a quick dispatch that they might gaine the more and when they found any thing that seemed a fault to them whether it was really so or not they changed and corrected it according to their minde and passion it faring with faults as with balls of snow which the more they are rolled grow the bigger so far was their faults to be lesned by their Writers thav they were rather augmented and multiplied the old continuing or rather growing worse and daily more new ones being made so that some little time after it might be said of every Book that it was in a manner no more the same Book but altogether another being so much changed and altered And the Romish Church growing in power and authoritie when shee found any thing in those Books contrary to her doctrine and the increase of her greatnesse or against her designes and intentions shee did condemne the same as falsified and falsly attributed to the Fathers and correct it after her own minde and fancy and when Printing was come in use shee made choice of that which was most conformable to her doctrine or rather moulding and forming it by her agents and supporters to her own minde caused it so to be printed suppressing and forbidding other Copies as spurious and corrupted said they by some heretiques or malicious people or falsly attributed to their Authors and so who can now say in the world certainly that the writings fathered upon Irenaeus Cyrillus Augustin and other ancient Fathers are the true and genuine Writings of those Fathers not falsified or supposed And if it hath been so hard a matter to preserve the holy Scripture which is but a little Book in comparison of those others in its purity through so many ages when Printing was not in use What can we say of those great Volumes which were not in so great request nor so much respected and where the change and alteration was not of so great importance to care so much but where every one took often the authoritie to change according to his fancy and accommodate the Father to his minde to authorise his beliefe I think there is no man of good judgement in the world who seeth not cleerly the force and power of this so manifest truth and that it is impossible to ground any certaine beliefe such as that of faith ought to be upon so uncertaine grounds Besides that though they were most certaine yet being men subject to mistakes and errours wee were not obliged to make their opinions our Judges if they be not conformable to the Word of God which is the rule of all truth For which cause I shall not strive in this Booke to alledge many passages of Fathers but onely shew my opinion grounded upon strong reasons and upon the vertue of the Scripture My intention not being to make a great Volume but onely a little Book of small cost and little time and paines both for my selfe and the Reader CHAP. VIII Concerning the chiefe point of Controversie to wit that St Peter had no primacy in the Church and that the primacy of the Pope is an unlawfull usurpation AS I have ever beleeved that the chiefe and most important point among all the controversies betwixt the Catholique reformed and the Romish Church is that of the Primacy of the Pope and whether he be Vicar of Christ Jesus on earth universall and generall Bishop over all Christians and be head and superiour of the Catholique Church So it was the first motive of my conversion and that which I esteemed to have most need to be well considered and examined as being the ground of all the Romish beliefe which once over-turned shee must of necessitie fall to the ground And howsoever there be many other points of great importance this neverthelesse is as the Center where all the rest do meet and the axletree on which they all move and the foundation that upholdeth them because that whatsoever point of faith or Scripture is in controversie those of the Romish Church will have none but the Church for Judge or as I have shewed the Pope saying he is Vicar of Christ Jesus and head of the universall Church and consequently sole Judge in matters of faith And being the Pope of Rome pretendeth this authoritie onely so far as he vaunteth himselfe to be successour of St Peter to whom he saith that Christ Jesus hath given this power I have diligently examined the question to see what reason and ground the Doctors of the Romish Church have to maintaine the same and howsoever they reject the Scripture and will not admit it to be Judge of controversie they are neverthelesse necessitated to have recourse to it and receive it for Judge in this point For the question being of the Pope he must not be Judge and party and it would be an insufferable impertinency to goe about to prove the Pope by the Pope and maintaine that he is head of the Church because maintaineth he and affirmeth it he must then of necessitie declare and produce his other titles and shew by what vertue he posseseth this authoritie there being no proscription in matter of faith and conscience for otherwise the Religion of the Gentiles and Idolaters would have been thought the best and the doctrine of the Evangelists would never have been planted for which cause also he laboureth to prove this his Article by the Scripture And to that end we shall first set downe the strongest of his reasons by way of objection the weaknesse and nullity of which I shall shew And although it be sufficient enough for evidencing his power to be unlawfull and usurped making it appeare that his titles are false and of no force and that wee are not obliged to bring proofes out of the Scriptures for that which is not a point of our faith it being sufficient for us that it is not in the Scripture which we hold for sole rule
the word Pope which is as to say Father or if ye will Father of fathers Pater patrum it was a name common in ancient time to all Bishops and when they called him Bishop that was neither universall nor yet of Rome nor Romane but very seldome but onely Bishop of the Citie of Rome to shew that in those times his Jurisdiction extended not without the walls and suburbs of the Citie of Rome Whence it may be observed that in much probability the Bishops yet of those times were no more than the Pastours of parishes as it is certain they were at the first institution there being not yet at that time speech of diocesse nor of Pastour that had authoritie over many Pastours or Churches and the number of Christians being but small every where one Pastour did serve and was sufficient for the greatest Cities who was called Bishop using the aid and assistance in his charge of the Presbyters that is to say Elders and out of the number of the Elders was ordinarily chosen the Bishop which is to say Intendent or overseer of the flock but this by the way Now to return to the Bishop of Rome it is true that some times they were transported with flattery or by way of civility and complement to give him some titles and Epithites of praise savouring more of flattery than truth extolling either his learning or holinesse beyond all christian modesty and appearance of truth but by a speciall providence of God who would conserve this pure doctrine for his elect or because that was too great a prejudice for them they were never induced to give him any title which might any way shew that Primacie or generall superiority and that without any contradiction of the whole Romish Church to the time of Sylvester which is about 300. yeers and a long time also after him Which if the Bishop of Rome had had or thought to have had it was highly to wrong him in writing to him and not giving him those titles of honour which were due unto him Nor was it a good way to obtain satisfaction in that which they asked to refuse him those qualities of superioritie his subjects did owe him especially in so teetling and important a thing Is there any Prince in the world that would not have reason to be offended if one of his vassals writing to him should call him comrade and companion writing nothing in his letter to shew his submission and the dependence he hath on his Lord and yet in those first ages we read not of any Pope that was offended with any Bishops who writ to them for calling them brother fellow Bishop or companion or for denying him the title of Universall Head This therefore is a manifest proofe that no Bishops did beleeve the Pope of Rome to be universall head of the Church and that the Bishops of Rome did not think it of themselves if this consequence be not reasonable I know not what may be thought reasonable in the world Judge thou indifferent Reader with a spirit of sinceritie and void of passion They of the Romish Church it may be will produce against all that we have cleerly alledged and proved from the Scriptures or otherwise a number of passages out of some Fathers men of the first ages for since Sylvester that the greatnesse of the Bishop of Rome did begin we must not marvell for the reasons alledged which seem to give the Primacy to St. Peter and the Bishop of Rome but the answer is brief in this and other points if they produce ten seeming testimonies for them I shall produce a dozen to the contrary taken out of the same Fathers a great deale stronger cleerer and of greater force than others But not to stay any longer upon their needlesse things let them shew us the true manuscripts written by those ancient Fathers and we will take the pains to read them and examine their opinions although nothing ought to be opposed to the holy Scriptures But to alledge us books written eight or nine hundred yeers after the Autographs and written or printed after a thousand copies and under the highest power of the Church of Rome there is no reason we should trouble our brains with them and also those books being laid together can in nothing equall nor come neer the authoritie of the holy Scriptures which are avowed and acknowledged of all men and speak most cleerly and manifestly in this point And so for the Fathers in this and other matters because I will say no other thing than that which I have said in the seventh Chapter of this book I intreat the Reader to see it there But how cometh it to passe that the Pope of Rome hath possessed himself of so great an authority and maintaineth the same in so high a degree for so many ages CHAP. XII In what manner and at what time the Bishop of Rome usurped the Primacie THose who will read and consider attentively the History of the Christian Church especially the life and history of the Popes written by Popish Authors themselves will cleerly see that the first 300. yeers after the death of our Saviour to the time of Pope Sylvester the Bishop of Rome did pretend no authoritie over the Bishops nor did any give him the title of Universall Head and Bishop in any of the Epistles which were written unto him the Bishop and Church of Rome afflicted with the persecutions and tyrannies of the Emperours imploying their thoughts rather for the conservation of the faith in the practise of humility and patience than in ambition and usurpation of any authoritie which belongeth no wayes unto them But as honours change manners and seldome to the better Constantine the Emperour having been baptized by Sylvester then Bishop of Rome and made the first Christian Emperour by an excessive zeal of devotion to the great prejudice since of all Christendome transferred his Court to Constantinople leaving the City of Rome to Sylvester with a donation of many Lands Lordships and rents so by that gift the Bishop of Rome became the richest and greatest Lord and most considerable without comparison of all the Bishops of the Christian Church it being knowne through the world that the sole Emperour and Monarch of the world had left him his imperiall Citie and inriched and gratified him with so great wealth and honour for him and his successors the Bishops of Rome and howsoever this good Bishop did see himselfe possessed of all this wealth yet did he never usurpe any primacy nor title of head and superiour over other Bishops or Christians himselfe nor his successours for two hundred yeares after his death It is true that being made the richest potentest and most considerable amongst all the Bishops many began to honour him more and write to him with greater respect which ever followeth riches and greatnesse and being thus eminent among all Christians if there were any Bishop who was persecuted by other Bishops or
Againe in preparing himselfe to saile and about to passe through the raging waves calleth upon a piece of wood more rotten than the vessell that carrieth him for verily desire of gaine devised that and the workman built it by his skill Judge I pray you if all this doth not agree and is not found in the simple people of the Romish Church and if there be not as great reason to condemne them of Idolatry as those of whom it is spoken in this place and are not they which place those Images and expose them to the people which authorise them by their doctrines and sollicite the people thereunto the causers and protectors of Idolatry But as the Booke of Wisdome saith in that place The desire of game hath devised that for it especially hath been the onely covetousnesse of Priests and Clergie to gaine and gather the money and offerings of the people which hath made them expose the Images and erect them in the Churches there being many of those Images worth great revenues to the Clergie and I know some worth above ten thousand Crownes yearely to their Priests and therefore we need not marvell that the Romish Clergie so carefully maintaine the doctrine of invocation of Saints and Images For as the people goe but seldome to God but by the Saints so doe they but seldome goe to the Saints but by the Priests to wit by their Masses Pilgrimages and other the like means and howsoever the saints in heaven take no money for their paines they having no need they neverthelesse which are on the earth can well take it refusing nothing although they have no hands but the Priests have hands enough for all for they take that which is offered them with one hand with the other that which is offered to their Images so they handsomely take as men commonly say two maulters of one sack and know how to flea the poore beast without noise caring little whether the people commit Idolatry or not provided they find their profit And howsoever the Priests know well enough that the people commit idolatry with the Saints and Images in rendring to them the honour that is due to God neverthelesse that doctrine being so profitable to them they are loath to preach against it or reprove it And as a notable and very learned Bishop of the Romish Church who is yet alive and whom I well know a man unblameable in his conversation did begin not long ago eagerly to preach and write against those great abuses against the congregations and Tiercers against pilgrimages and those artificiall superstitions and the Idolatries practised by the ignorant with vitious simplicities and invented of purpose by the Priests to snatch mens money those who were the more interressed rose up against him incontinent and prevailed so far by their practises with the greatest that he was forbidden to preach and write and hath been disgraced and banished these many yeers although he was esteemed for that of the most judicious and even of them who did solicite against him but profit and gain suffocate and strangle oftentimes the reason and truth especially in the Romish Church CHAP. XIX Of the Miracles of the Romish Church THe strongest reason they of the Romish Church have to authorise their invocation of Saints is an infinite multitude of Miracles which they say were done by the Saints at the prayers of the faithfull and the book of their miracles is of such credit at this day in that Church that it is their Word of God and holy Scripture and the book in greatest estimation among the people and where scarcely one Bible is to be found in an whole Parish an hundred books of the life and miracles of Saints are to be seen Truly for my part I once accounted of them as other men did and because there was many strange accidents surpassing the force of nature I took great pleasure in reading those histories for it is naturall to our spirits to be delighted with things which are not common thence cometh it to passe that there are but few that are not delighted with the reading of Romans although they know them to be fabulous and things invented of purpose to passe idle time but when I came to sound and examine the manner in which those things were left unto us I found there was but small reason to brag of those miracles or oppose them to the Word of God and practise of the Apostles and first Christians for there is none but they know that those books of the Saints and especially that which is most esteemed at this present and called the flowers of the Saints composed by Ribadeneyra a Spanish Jesuite hath been extracted out of the ancient Legends and lives of the Saints in which the most judicious of the Romish Church as the Cardinall Baronius and others acknowledge so many absurdities and lies that they are ashamed to hold them for authentique such is the Tripartite History Metaphrastus Nicephorus The life of the ancient Fathers and Hermites attributed to St. Jerome who never dreamed of it The golden Legend and many others of the same kind where it is certain the lives of many Saints are which were never in the world Notwithstanding the Moderns have not neglected to take out of all those books the things which seemed to them least absurd and they thought easiest to be beleeved and so have left it to the world not with more truth but with more likelihood of truth But I would willingly ask them who told them that those things which they have pickt out of those ancient books and old Legends esteemed to be Apocrypha are truer than the things they have left behind For they were not present to know it and all things which might have come to passe and been done are not therefore come to passe and if any Authors have written of them they have taken them one from another as divers Writers do So truly all those Authors old and moderne do not deliver them as holy Scripture or things certain and infallible and the more judicious through all ages have never given great credit thereto Notwithstanding because many Authors are cited in them who write those things which indeed they have never seen but read or learned from their predecessours or found in some Manuscripts wherein were written many lies and false histories to make them more plausible to the end they might sell better to the people and to make them the more credible they write them often under the name of some dead Saint or some grave Author who had been famous and the simpler which make profession to beleeve all that is moulded or printed especially being dazled with the name of so many Authors whereof some were accounted Saints receive that as Gospel firmly beleeving the same but not the more judicious and wiser amongst them And as for Miracles I am not inclined to incredulitie but I am of so easie beleefe in that point as a
Christian ought to do and I know and confesse that God being almightie both can work them when it pleaseth him and by whom it pleaseth him both by sinners and Saints by Infidels and beleevers and I know and confesse that many miracles have been done by the saints in vertue of Gods name who onely can work miracles and that they may be wrought yet every day and it is credible they are wrought in some place Gods hand being nothing shortned but miracles are neither infallible marks of the true Church nor of the true doctrine God being able to do them as I have said by Infidels and Devils And as for the Miracles which the Romish Church pretend and whereof they make so great boast and noise in the eares of the simpler I could never find any sufficient reason to move me to beleeve them although I have been often very curious diligently to enquire after the same with all possible sinceritie But for my part I professe first of all never to have seen any in any place wheresoever I have been and moreover that I never did meet with any man for the space of 30. yeers and more that I lived in the Romish Church who could assure me he had seen any although I have been in a great number of Churches and places where the people said many miracles were wrought and where the Priests did keep great books stuffed with an infinite number of Miracles and when I was desirous particularly to know the truth of some of them whereof they made so great noise I found it was onely deceits to beguile the simpler and draw more people after them not to honour God or the Saints with their prayers but to burthen the Priests and Clergy with offerings and presents out of their purses for that is the end of the mysterie I will onely hereupon give you this brief history When I did remain in a sea-town famous enough there was a Pastor of my acquaintance an ingenuous man and much given to his profit who perceiving that his Church which was dedicated to the Virgin Mary was not so much frequented as some other Churches were and as he desired he bethought himself of this project and designe to wit some simple women passing once by the way coming to his Church he made them beleeve that the Virgin Mary had newly appeared to him and told him she would be singularly worshipped in his Church and that whosoever should visit it 7. times mark the subtiltie besides a multitude of benefits he should receive every time it should be as profitable to him as if he went to see our Dame de Liesse which was above an hundred miles distant and might acquit himself from the vow of going thither but to assure you that he spake this in formall or obscure and enigmatique tearmes I will not affirm it but howsoever he perswaded them in such sort that they came immediately to the Town where I lived publishing the Miracle in every place that the virgin Mary was appeard to that Pastour and had held such discourse with him So that the report of this new miracle being divulged abroad the people especially women and maids went running in such a throng from the Town to that Church in pilgrimage it being distant about six miles that there passed no day wherein many hundreds went not even to such excesse that the Pastour of the Town a man zealous and jealous of his charge did ordinarily complain in publique that his Parish was deserted Gods service neglected and the women and maidens were in danger to turn whores they not being able to gain their living in so running up and down In a word that it was the deceit of the devil yet were not all his exhortations sufficient to hinder the streame and current of that unreasonable multitude And after the example of this famous Town the neighbouring Towns throng thither also and the matter went so far that in lesse than three yeers nay than two the people came thirtie or fourty miles off thither in procession and mark that none returneth back without leaving some feather of their wings for that is the ground and end of the invention some for confession others for Masses some for Evangils and prayers said over their heads others for wax and light some to clothe the Image and for an infinite number of other uses which want not speciall and religious pretexts whereof the honest Priest maketh every where his profit for although he be not able to do all alone yet they whom he admitteth to help him and have some part of the spoil must often grease his fingers and give him some acknowledgement otherwayes he would be discontented and weary to suffer them there is cunning every where And I being once there I was very curious to enquire of my friend the Priest the truth of that Miracle which was so much spoken of far and neer and as I did ask him what the matter was he began to smile and told me he knew not what it meant and that the report was but a meer foolery but such an answer was not for every one he being wise enough for his own profit not to discover himself so cleerly to all men but he knew that I would not be contented with equivocations nor enigmatique answers as many others and that I was of a profession to keep all secret And notwithstanding for all that the same of that false revelation continueth yet at this day and will continue from father to son and those that will come after us will write it as an Article of faith And whatsoever they did talk of an infinite number of other miracles which were said to be done in that Church yet could I never learn so much as one and when I have inquired I found nothing but a false rumour of the people nothing true I mean true miracles and not cures of Fevers or the like accidents which nature it self with Gods concurring or assistance may do Neverthelesse many go thither thronging as they do likewise in a number of such places on holy dayes and Sundayes idle and working dayes so that all the neighbouring Priests complain as did that other that their Churches were deserted that there is no body in their Temples to assist at the Divine Service to hear the Sermons but that under the false bruit of those Miracles and under pretext of that indiscreet devotion the people do nothing but run up and down loosing their time and money and bring themselves in danger to starve or steal that they may live the rest of the week besides a number of disorders committed by the way many young folks being glad of this occasion to make acquaintance men and women being often obliged to be pell mell together both by the way and in the Inne for want of roome women return back with their purses emptied and their bellies filled with some other thing than wind and all they do there is to hear
words of God even in the matter of the Sacraments But the Pope doth not onely extend those words unto internall and externall sins but perswading himself that it was especially said to him All that thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven and all that thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed He taketh upon him to loose the bands of oaths loose and exempt Subjects from the subjection and fidelity they owe to their natural Princes and children from the obedience they owe to their fathers and mothers when they become Religious in any Monasterie by the same authoritie they loose marriage lawfully contracted if it be found that the husband and the wife together have presented a child to be baptized or be allied by the confirmation and so it seemeth that the Scripture is onely alledged by the Papists to uphold and maintain the power of the Pope Now what ever is the controversie among them for this passage it sufficeth that it manifestly appeareth through the whole Scripture that Christ did never command Auricular Confession but repentance and amendment and that the Apostles did neither command nor practise it which if they had done it would questionlesse have been mentioned in the Scripture in some places of their writings or in the History of the Acts of the Apostles and if the confession were of such importance as they would have it in the Romish Church the Apostles doubtlesse should have preached it and even practised it often amongst them confessing one to another For all the Doctors confesse that they might commit if not mortall yet veniall sins and when they did declare the faith to the faithfull they would also have preached the sincere confession of their sins and taught them the true manner of the same and even to make generall confessions as they had preached the practise and exercise of other vertues which not being found in any part we must conclude that in their time confession was not in use and that it is an humane invention proceeding neither from Christ nor his Apostles but instituted established and maintained by the Clergie for the great temporall profit they draw from it I say moreover in the time of the primitive Church Auricular confession was not in use and was neither thought an obligation nor command nor of such importance as it is at this present which that it may be most cleerly seen I intreat the Reader and especially them of the Romish Church to see in the life of their Saints which they hold for their Bible and holy Scripture there let them read the life of all the Apostles and holy Martyrs nay even of all those whom they call the Confessors of the first ages as of St. Augustine Chrysostome Athanasius and Basilius who is esteemed to be founder of the orientall Monks of St. Anthony and St. Paul the Hermits Finally of all those of the fourth fifth and sixth ages yea and since I am assured they will never find that any of those ancient Fathers did make any auricular and secret confession to the Priests Notwithstanding they are esteemed to have been very zealous men in Christian Religion and men of vertue and exemplary perfection who would never have omitted it if it had been of so great importance See both their life and death there is never a word spoken of Auricular confession which if they had used it would questionlesse have been mentioned some where in some one of those lives which are in great number And he especially who not long ago hath gathered and collected all those lives and who hath omitted nothing which he thought might be usefull to the Romish Church would never have left out this point if he had found the least traces of it in any places and I even marvell he hath not added it as he hath done many other things of his own invention but we must say that either he did not bethink himself of it or God hath not permitted it to confound this new doctrine of the Romish Church by looking to the ancient and the practise of those Fathers And mark how the same Author forgetteth not to mention this point in the times of those where he findeth it to have been used and because that this Auricular confession hath been in greater estimation within this short time than ever before so there is no Saint in those last ages in whose life there is not very speciall mention made of their frequent confessions and their sincerity therein but in the lives of the ancients there is no mention made of it at all Moreover I marvelled often that there was no more spoken of it in the books of the ancient Fathers Turn over I pray you Augustine Irenaeus Theodoret Chrysostome and Cyprian and see if there be any thing spoken of Auricular confession to the Priests it may be they speak of some exomologese and confession but that was publike and not secret confession to the Church for satisfaction and edification and not secret and Auricular confession to the Priests for sacramentall Absolution Remarke also if yee finde in any place of them any examination of the conscience with which all the Books of this time are filled in the Church of Rome see if any of them hath written any cases of conscience to teach the manner of confession as we see a great multitude in our dayes there yee will finde no such things and is it not a strong proofe if it be not found in those Fathers that Auricular confession was not in use in those dayes for they being so godly men and the most famous of their ages they would often questionlesse have used it and recommended it to others and it is not credible they would have composed so big volumes without making cleare mention in some place nay even in many places of that which is esteemed so necessary a Sacrament and of so great importance Furthermore Yee will find in the Book of the lives of the Saints and in the History of the ancient Hermits attributed to St Jerome how those Ancients were sometimes nay even often and in many places of Aegypt foure or five thousand Hermits or Cenobites or more under one Superiour Master accustoming themselves to the singing of Psalmes reading and meditation of the holy Scripture for it was not as yet forbidden in those times and to work with their owne hands and bodyes to winne their livings and be burdensome to none as St Paul did and commonly there was but one Priest for that great multitude who often did not live amongst them but came to see them every Sabbath to celebrate divine Service unto them Now there is no appearance that the confession was in use in those times for one or two Priests would not suffice to confesse often so great a number and though a man should doe no other thing in a fortnight he were not able to confesse two thousand And those Books of their lives make no mention that they
called their Priests to confesse them even when they were neere to death but that they did prepare themselves for that passage by the meditation and reading of the holy Scriptures and often hearing and reciting of Psalmes And there were even many amongst them if that Author speaketh truth who were for ten or twelve yeares or more inclosed in little chambers of purpose and sequestred from all humane conversation without seeing or speaking to any and often dying alone If in those dayes the confession had been holden for a necessary Sacrament men would have judged that to be a diabolicall illusion and deceit as they would now doe in the Church of Rome if there were any found who to follow his private devotions should leave off the whole way and practise of confession I intreat the Reader in the Romish Church to consider this well and if he doubt I speake not the truth that he would take the paines to see those Books and ruminate the matter Now all that sheweth most cleerly as I suppose that the doctrine of Auricular confession holden to be of so great importance at this day in the Church of Rome is not a doctrine derived from Jesus Christ nor his Apostles nor yet practised by them nor used among the Saints and Christians of the first ages but a doctrine invented not long agoe by the Pope and the Clergie of Rome for the great temporall profits it bringeth to the Priests for of all the Sacraments of the Church there is none of so great worth to the Priests as that of the confession And although there be some who take no money in confessing that neverthelesse is onely to refuse a little fish for a big one and the gratifications they receive from their penitents especially of the female sex recompence fully all their paines those who use that trade and who are acquainted with their practises know well enough how profitable this mystery is to the Priests and it sufficeth to tell you that a man who can but handsomely handle the consciences and the spirituall of men can but easily dispose of all their temporallities and the gold and silver which is found with many confessours after their death and the abundance of all things during their life and so many sumptuous Monasteries newly erected in many Cities and so many costly ornaments and so great riches and wealth which are to be seene in many of them are for the most part the effects of the sole Auricular confession and it is thought that it is at this present at least as profitable to the Clergie as the doctrine of Purgatory or Invocation of Saints is or ever was this being even the Primum mobile which moveth all the rest And they who doe professe it and know the worth of it would not leave it off for any thing and therefore labour to maintaine it by all meanes whatsoever and that even in despite of the Bishops who would faine hinder the Fryars from using it thinking themselves sufficient and capable enough alone with their Priests to governe their flocks without those auxiliary troopes which the Pope sendeth them against their will and which take all the fat and flesh of the flocke whereof Christ hath given them the full charge but God so permit that having left the true doctrine of Christ they are confounded and troubled in the use and practise of their owne proper inventions I remember that a man of great note amongst the Clergy told me some while agoe at London that many of the Clergie in England knowing the utilitie and profits the Confession might bring them were sorry that morsell should have escaped out of their hands and that they would quickly set it up againe if it were in their power I know not if he judged others by himselfe or not neverthelesse I beleeved at that time with many he was not much inclined to Papistry and now I have much reason to be otherwise conceited of him and not I alone but to satisfie such men if yet any such be which God forbid I will tell them that as the confession bringeth great profit to some particular and private Priests it draweth also after it insupportable inconveniences and incommodities to the Pastours and Generall of the Church for the confession is growne at this day to such excesse in the Church of Rome by the perswasions and exhortations of the Preachers that as the Pastours in former times did move the people thereunto both by themselves and others they are now constrained to divert them at this present because where there is but a reasonable number of people this exercise is inconsistent with all other offices and services in the Church and it is impossible that the Priests and penitents can discharge themselves faithfully even according to the Rules of the Romish Church For where there is for example 4000 Communicants in a Parish as there are many if the most part which will confesse themselves at some great feast as at Christmasse or Whitsontide or one of the feasts of the Virgin Mary to which they have so much exhorted the people that now it is become customary unto them and he that doth it not is in a manner not holden to be a Christian Every Priest is not able to confesse fiftie in a morning though he should labour from five of the clocke in the morning till mid-day without any intermission so that there must be above twenty Priests to confesse a thousand in a forenoone and above fortie for two thousand and yet all must be done post-hast as they say and doe no other thing and what good can one doe in so ticklesome a businesse in such precipitation In the meane time who shall say all the Masses which must be said aloud and with low voice and who shall helpe to sing and say the divine office the Mattins and other Canonicall offices as the custome is in the Church of Rome and who shall preach and perfect the rest of the Service which the day and the publique require and what shall be done where there are not so many Priests two or three hundred being sufficient to cause a great trouble Besides when there is a great feast the throng is so great almost in every place that it will be one mornings worke onely to waite his turne for to say two or three words in the Priests eare in great haste and that often putteth all the families to trouble and discord for the Mistris is angry with the maide for staying too long and the husband against his wife and if they be both there together the children and the whole houshold are in confusion Observe also that there are few others but women that will waite upon this wearisome and troublesome devotion for the men especially the wiser sort not beleeving it so easily and remarking so many things which offend their spirits leave the practise to their wives which being naturally inclined to prate and discharge their spleene and discover