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A86328 The foundation of the font discovered to the view of all that desire to behold it. And, the baptizing of men and women when they believe (in rivers and fountains) proved to be a standing ordinance in the Church of Cchrist to the end of the world; by plain Scripture-proof. In answer to Mr. Cook's Font uncovered, for infant-baptism; and Mr. Baxter's Plain Scripture-proof for infants church-membership and baptism. With a word sometimes upon occasion to Mr. Hall's Font-guarded; which is more fully answered by Thomas Collyer. By Henry Haggar, a servant of Christ, and the congregations of his saints. Haggar, Henry. 1653 (1653) Wing H186; Thomason E711_1; ESTC R207114 109,478 143

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not_o lie_v in_o bring_v the_o scripture_n but_o in_o add_v to_o and_o take_v from_o as_o i_o shall_v make_v it_o appear_v by_o compare_v the_o word_n the_o devil_n bring_v mat._n 4.6_o and_o luke_n 4.10_o 11._o with_o those_o word_n in_o psa_n 91.11_o 12._o which_o be_v these_o for_o he_o shall_v give_v his_o angel_n charge_v over_o thou_o to_o keep_v thou_o in_fw-la all_o thy_o way_n they_o shall_v bear_v thou_o up_o in_o their_o hand_n leave_v thou_o dash_v thy_o foot_n against_o a_o stone_n these_o be_v the_o word_n of_o the_o prophecy_n psa_n 91.11_o 12._o but_o the_o word_n of_o the_o tempter_n be_v these_o cast_v thyself_o down_o which_o be_v nowhere_o write_v just_o as_o you_o say_v baytise_v your_o child_n which_o be_v no_o where_o write_v but_o the_o devil_n will_v prove_v he_o may_v thus_o for_o say_v he_o it_o be_v write_v he_o shall_v give_v his_o angel_n charge_v concern_v thou_o to_o keep_v thou_o as_o in_o luk._n 14.10_o and_o with_o their_o hand_n they_o shall_v bear_v 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day_n they_o go_v to_o christ_n school_n to_o learn_v the_o first_o principle_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n heb._n 6._o may_v be_v also_o call_v the_o scholar_n or_o disciple_n of_o christ_n again_o as_o man_n common_o call_v all_o the_o turk_n old_a and_o young_a that_o be_v bear_v of_o the_o flesh_n into_o mahomet_n kingdom_n which_o be_v of_o this_o world_n mahometan_n even_o so_o we_o call_v all_o convert_v old_a and_o young_a which_o be_v bear_v again_o of_o the_o spirit_n into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v not_o of_o this_o world_n christians_o by_o old_a and_o young_a convert_n i_o do_v not_o mean_a beleiver_n bear_v of_o the_o spirit_n and_o their_o child_n as_o they_o be_v bear_v of_o the_o flesh_n but_o i_o mean_v such_o as_o be_v speak_v of_o 1_o john_n 2.13_o 13._o in_o these_o word_n i_o write_v to_o you_o little_a child_n because_o your_o sin_n be_v forgive_v you_o for_o his_o name_n sake_n i_o write_v 〈…〉_z ●●●hes_n because_o you_o have_v know_v he_o that_o be_v from_o the_o beginning_n i_o wr●●e_v to_o you_o young_a man_n because_o you_o have_v overcome_v th●●●●ked_a 〈◊〉_d and_o chap._n 5.21_o little_a child_n keep_v yourselves_o from_o idol_n amen_n by_o all_o which_o we_o see_v that_o the_o least_o child_n that_o be_v in_o the_o church_n that_o john_n write_v unto_o be_v such_o as_o have_v know_v the_o father_n chap_n 2.13_o and_o such_o as_o can_v understand_v exhortation_n to_o keep_v themselves_o from_o idol_n now_o as_o for_o mr._n baxter_n man_n that_o hire_v the_o philosopher_n to_o teach_v his_o child_n he_o neither_o tell_v we_o what_o man_n it_o be_v nor_o how_o old_a his_o child_n be_v nor_o what_o the_o philosopher_n name_n be_v and_o therefore_o i_o shall_v pass_v that_o over_o as_o a_o cunning_n devise_v fable_n not_o worth_a the_o answer_n and_o proceed_v to_o the_o next_o which_o be_v that_o mother_n can_v teach_v their_o child_n partly_o by_o action_n and_o gesture_n and_o partly_o by_o voice_n to_o take_v 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